"You can't use the wrong pronoun for someone without getting destroyed, but you can call for genocide?" This sums the absurdity up.

@user-hl4jj3hb4h

2 ай бұрын

Agree. I've taught for years, and I refuse to learn people's 'pronouns'. That's a total non-starter, and anyone who wants to throw a temper tantrum over 'pronouns' isn't going to be hired by most professional offices. I've also noted that the Gen Z'ers aren't getting jobs at a young enough age. I had my first job when I was 13 - as a dishwasher. It's by having to do menial jobs for years that you learn how to interact with many different people from different backgrounds. It's critical to becoming a mature adult.

@andybaldman

2 ай бұрын

It’s moot, because Gen-Z’ers aren’t going to have a world to get jobs in.

@graterdeddly9527

2 ай бұрын

For these identity politics freaks using the wrong pronoun (which normally means using the real pronoun wrong) *is* a genocide.

@UnicyclDev

7 күн бұрын

@@user-hl4jj3hb4hconsider that youth are not allowed to get these jobs anymore and salaries have depreciated significantly.

Been following Jonathan Haidt for years now and he had the inside line on insanity in academia. Nice to see him take a little bit of a victory lap here post-Claudine Gay, which was a moment of reckoning for those who were not following Jonathan.

@TheYgds

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, this is a giant "told you so" lecture.

@stevem815

2 ай бұрын

Surprised no-one asked the obvious question of why she got fired now. It's not like she just started doing this stuff. Because it seems like it's positively encouraged to attack some groups, they'll make you the president of harvard, but refuse to defend others and you get fired and replaced by someone from that group.

@TeaParty1776

2 ай бұрын

After getting bored w/my philosophy professor's lectures, I studied how they used their minds. They didnt. Theyre insane.

@PsychoBible

2 ай бұрын

Claudine Gay? Who's that? What happened? I've read all of Haidt's books, but I'm out of the loop with what he's been up to.

@PsychoBible

2 ай бұрын

Just got to the 12-minute mark and he jogged my memory. Never mind, LOL!

This man is a national treasure

@user-oq4ee1dv2s

2 ай бұрын

No This man is dangerous because he has perhaps three quarters of the truth but stumbles at the finish line, unable to distinguish between the right and the left; perhaps because he has no connection with anything that would or could be attributed to a higher power.

@willmercury

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-oq4ee1dv2s Ah, the old "without God" canard... That explains everything. Convenient!

@l.w.paradis2108

2 ай бұрын

Well, he's collecting treasure for sure.

Great talk. One thing that was missing, I thought, was the influence of teachers in primary & secondary schools. The courses that credential teachers to teach those kids are awash with DEI/social justice indentitarianism. This makes the job of universities harder to turn the ship around because they’ve got to undo so much damage before they can get on with the job we😂 require of them as Jonathan laid out.

@johnashton3088

2 ай бұрын

Teacher training colleges are joined at the hip to the University system

@Orson2u

2 ай бұрын

THIS.

@user-hl4jj3hb4h

2 ай бұрын

What is 'identitarianism'? Don't make up a word that isn't actually in the dictionary. Explain what you mean.

@1969ES175

2 ай бұрын

@@user-hl4jj3hb4homg google it.

@indef2def

2 ай бұрын

Yep, and it's even worse because schoolteachers are on average of much lower IQ than professors or grad students, so they don't even have that little itch that brilliant people have when trying to process uncritical propaganda. A majority of them want a safe career transmitting the "proper" ideas without creating any new ones. (And yes, I say this as an insider.)

Superb! A growing flicker of hope amidst the gloom.

I'm not even American, i still value this man's insight. Love him

I posted a link to this great and informative presentation on m Facebook page and surprisingly I received dismissive comments about Haidt being part of the "intellectual dark web." How did we get to the place where a respected social psychologist is casually dismissed, probably due to left-leaning bias, and their ideas not even considered on such important cultural questions of the day?

@Orson2u

2 ай бұрын

INDEED. Well, social media rewards and thereby empowers psychopathology. The KZreadr and newly deplatformed eminence, Jordan Peterson, is Big On This theme

@gmw3083

2 ай бұрын

@@Orson2u Where's JP deplatformed from?

@Reglaized

Ай бұрын

Power. That's it.

@crisisactor420

Ай бұрын

​@@Orson2u"thereby empowers psychopathology" I love when JP stans try to talk like him 😂 I agree with you though

The capture of teacher training colleges is one of the main root issues. Licenses have ZERO correlation with student success and are used mostly as an ideological filtering mechanism.

@whizzingfish

2 ай бұрын

@@greensmadden13 I think that right for those interested in teaching would be to retain the education degree for young students (elementary age), but for subject areas in middle and high school, the emphasis should be on a degree in the field with a teaching add-on. The individual needs about 4-5 classes on curriculum and pedagogy. That's it. One semester.

@user-hl4jj3hb4h

2 ай бұрын

I taught graduate level and undergraduate level architecture at various universities. When you are hired to teach at university level, your credentials are what land you the job. No one who I met when I taught had a 'teaching license'. It's all about what's in your resume. ie: How many books + articles have you published? In my case, as an architect, how many buildings have you successfully designed and built. How many awards for your work? Publications of your work?

@WhizzingFish12

2 ай бұрын

Not sure where you're going with this. I am not talking about the university level, where BTW MANY professors are terrible teachers (but that's a different thread), but at the K-12 level.

@TeaParty1776

2 ай бұрын

Teaching Johnny to Think-Leonard Peikoff; teachers need to master a subject. They dont need years of psychology pretending to be a method of education. Van Damme Academy Marva Collins Way

@WhizzingFish12

2 ай бұрын

@@TeaParty1776 30 years of experience, and I completely agree.

Social media is no longer "social"...it's now hypnotical. The point of it is to keep people glued to the screen and their eyes fixed on whatever is being presented and ears attentive to what is being said by...whomever. Jonathan's book goes great with the mindfulness workbook called 30 Days Without Social Media by Harper Daniels.

Jonathan is making america great again - one talk at a time. love this bloke.

@andrewthomas695

2 ай бұрын

It'll take much more than him. America's problems are deeply embedded in the American people. Until the culture of zero sum, identity and the love of profit are addressed, America remains in danger of being taken out by its one true enemy. Itself.

@compedium

2 ай бұрын

you're fooling yourself if you think Jon Haidt is a conservative or trumpie

Mr Haidt has been talking about this for 10-13 years. If you look at his early interviews on KZread, look at his talks, lectures and speeches over the past 12 years you will witness a man who knew it all along. He described what was happening around him and NYU, he was critiquing wider academe and the regressive left. This man was not silenced and stuck his neck out for all of us.

@Killahcombo

2 ай бұрын

Yes, and he is one who is too weak to make real change, because he is still in big parts part of the movement. All this pluralism, belonging, tolerance, harmony and heterodoxy makes you weak and incapable of real action. I don't know since when being scientific meant the absence of decisiveness, certainty, energy and motivation. Science today just means fear of being disproved, so the only good scientific principle is 'security'. That's why student's are afraid to talk - because they lack decisiveness, certainty, energy and motivation. This is what the let has robbed from everyone.

I'm no video editing expert but isn't there some way in which the graphs could be presented clearly? Split screen? Full screen? Insert screen?

@NooYPP

2 ай бұрын

I agree! He points to his slides to illustrate his points very often and every single time I tab back to see them its not there. Very frustrating.

@gmw3083

2 ай бұрын

The graphs only make sense with specially tinted eyewear and the necessary programming...

@David-Anyroad

2 ай бұрын

​@@gmw3083 They Live...

@jamesdelalla3143

2 ай бұрын

He's great (why we're here, no?), but this is unwatchable. Bad audio and graphs not shown. Sadly it's a pass. Too bad.

Too bad the camera was locked on the speaker and not zoomed in on the PowerPoint. So we could only hear about graphics and couldn't see them.

@bobf5360

2 ай бұрын

yeah. A TED level talk in production this wasn't. Its weird because most lectures that are recorded at most universities do the opposite- the camera is left trained on (or the video feed is only from) the slide deck, and. not the speaker.

@skiphoffenflaven8004

Ай бұрын

Just listen. He explains what everyone is looking at sufficiently.

"We lost that and replaced it with the phone based childhood...if your a human being you cannot grow up with a phone based childhood, it just doesn't work"....

@TeaParty1776

2 ай бұрын

But there's a score of harebrained children They're all locked in the nursery They got earphone heads, they got dirty necks They're so 20th century -Rolling Stones

Thanks for posting this

I’ve never heard anyone talk about the impact of day care on development. Day care was not always prevalent. Now it is considered normal and has been for years. Children enter as early as few months. The day care experience is ‘never being alone’, an adult constantly within reach, always being supervised. I think about its carry over to adulthood and how comfortable people are of carrying a cell phone and the ease with which we accept that we are being watched, listened to, etc.

@Tomyum19

2 ай бұрын

Daycare has been proven over and over again to be either neutral or positive on childhood development.

@roca967

2 ай бұрын

​@@Tomyum19 Are you sure about that? I've been watching some Suzanne Venker and Erika Komisar videos where they've been saying daycare should be the last resort, reserved only for those who really need it. The argument is that daycare tends to give young children attachment issues and they grow up emotionally insecure. The child becomes attached to a daycare worker who often disappears after a few months, or the worker's attention is divided among too many children to give any of them the attention they need, and for the child it's like losing a mother or having a neglectful mother. They give evidence and cite studies, but that's the gist of it. What's the case that says daycare is good for kids?

@Tomyum19

2 ай бұрын

@@roca967 The effects of daycare on children is actually quite a complicated topic. Long story short, the data seems to indicate that high quality daycare centers appear to have positive effects on language skills, positive to neutral effects on motor skills, and neutral to negative effects on behaviours. Behaviour effects appear to be mitigated by strong attentive parents who cultivate a structured home life. High quality daycare appears to have to most benefit for children who come from disadvantaged homes with poor parenting, which would make sense, as the daycare likely offers more structure and emotional support than home would. Children who come from wealthy structured homes with attentive parents may see a neutral to negative affect on behaviors. But as mentioned, these can typically be mitigated. If you can find a high quality daycare with low teacher/student ratios and really dedicate yourself to your child's development at home, odds are your child will be completely fine. It's important to stay engaged in the affairs of your daycare as well. Join the board of directors for sure. My wife and I have found a great daycare and are both on the board, we have a teacher/student ratio of appx 5:1 and supplement our children heavily at home. I personally went to a much lower quality daycare when I was a child and I still turned out decent and have fond memories of daycare so I'm confident my children will be just fine. The data, my anecdotal experience, and my children's apparent development give me the confidence my children have the optimal chance to succeed given the circumstances as well as give me the confidence to be able to mitigate whatever negative impacts a daycare may have. Children are EXTREMELY resilient and malleable so as long as theyre not being outright abused and neglected at daycare, they will likely be just fine as long as mom and dad stay fully engaged. Final point, negative effects of daycare appear to dissipate as the children become older as well. Effects are most apparent in kindergarten but are essentially undetectable in later development years.

@user-hl4jj3hb4h

2 ай бұрын

I treasured my alone time even when I was 5 years old. I was privileged to walk to and from school by myself by the time I was 7. It's a great learning experience! I had a ton of alone time, and read a ton of books! I had a library in my bedroom - including the encyclopedia Brittanica. I don't see kids reading books. Neal Stephenson is on the mark - he's a great futurist, who says bluntly - in the future only the poor will read from electronic tablets. The rich and entitled will read books, and be much better educated as a result.

@Tomyum19

2 ай бұрын

@@roca967 Yeah Im sure about that. I wrote a huge write up but KZread deletes comments for no reason lately. Long story short, find a good daycare, join the board, be a good parent, and your kids will be fine.

So true on that one so true they took away play and play is so important to child development from all my studies. Thank you, Professor.

Great video. Good on ya Jonathan and others for respectfully advancing ideas and perspectives.

This book The Anxious Generation is going turn heads and change minds (I hope). Thank you for your diligent work and speaking Dr. Haidt

My favorite public academic!

Campuses used to have a range of ideas and ideologies represented, my own undergrad experience included an array of professors from left to right and back again. There was no departmental group think requirement, no overarching demand for ideological unity. Then an Ivy League Marxist looked at her remuneration and realized preaching Marxist class war when one had moved into the top 10% of earners in the country looked pretty pathetic: her "class" had changed but she still wanted to be "repressed" and claim she was a victim in spite of her economic position.....and DEI was born. DEI was a perfect solution as it changed the issue from "class," which can be changed with lots of luck and hard work, to "identity:" which either can or can't be changed depending upon the type of identity one is promoting. Replacing Marxism with DEI dogma also had the effect of making those who didn't conform to the ideology "racist" or "anti-trans" simply by disagreeing. DEI meant that no matter what the individual does it is always relevant because it is their identity and conforming to the DEI ideology that matter. DEI places such a premium upon identity that a millionaire with the correct identity checklist can complain that the homeless white guy has "privilege" because he's in the way of the oppressed person's limousine. DEI is an ideology that demand conformity above all else and determines the worth of an individual's ideas solely upon the color of its skin or whom it sleeps with or if its genitalia and feelings have a mismatch. Universities spent centuries casting off the cloak of mythology and its deleterious influence upon science and research, now we are seeing another form of dogma dictate what can and can't be taught and what can and can't be researched. We have DEI doing exactly what the christian mythologists were doing except the DEI folks pretend there are "studies" that show their ideology to be correct...all published by folks dedicated to enforcing DEI polices regardless of reality.

I've admired the speech and debate subculture within high schools as useful at countering overly isolationist passive lifestyles. Theater (including improv) is likely another important counter; I'm just not as familiar with it as with the debate team world, in which I became immersed as a parent and volunteer judge.

@user-hl4jj3hb4h

2 ай бұрын

YES! Theater is GREAT! I learned how to speak by working with an acting coach! Agree!

I fear true academics like Haidt will continue to be drowned out by the shouting of the DEI and ESG crowds. We're on a path that is not easily exited or diverted, and I think the anger maintains the engagement with it in a way that entrenches it further. Intersectionality and other disgusting concepts will get worse, not better, and the melting pot will further cool. I'm not hopeful.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

Haidt is intellectually bankrupt, and has zero to offer except is trite observations that come willy nilly to his mind. Look at how he coddles an audience of adult academics with his "raise your hand" nonsense. He is condescending and patronizing, and spends most of his time selling his lame book and his so-called heterodox academy. He thinks Bari Weiss is a great intellectual. The dude never gets out, and seems overly obsessed with the psychology of girls 10-14. Oh, but he is now reading Marshall McLuhan, WOW, a book most of us read in high school.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@greensmadden13 Worse than equity is the resentment men like Jordan Peterson feel over the loss of traditional white male privilege. Haidt is a mediocre academic, and he has a job. Why? lol The (not so) unspoken goal is to get rid of women and black people from the University. Will these men be happy then? Probably not.

Excellent talk. I always learn something from Jonathan Haidt!

Very good talk.

Terrific talk Dr. Haidt!

Jonathan Haidt might be the single greatest hero of our time. Without him, many of the improvements we're now seeing would have been impossible

My mother would have qualified as a helicopter parent in the 50s. She let me wander the neighborhood visiting friends at age THREE (and once I wandered off half a mile--knew exactly where I was). By five I and my friends were fighting, playing "doctor" in the woods, and falling off sandbanks. Since she'd grown up on a farm, this kind of play was actually safer than being around large animals. These kids have really been maimed.

Start with The Righteous Mind… like peering into the decided tribal matrix. Thanks Johnathan

Further well researched and studied information on our cultural psychology from a man who has proven his bone fides. I hope this information gets great publicity.

Great again👏

I know this is going sound horrid; however, having the audio hard panned to the right at the beginning makes me want to scream. Cheers all and thank you for the great talk.

Brilliant

the use of the garage door opener is funnier than it should be.

The real confusion is to why DEI has managed to spread out of the academy. It's plainly discriminatory, so where are the lawyers dedicated to challenging employers?

@Orson2u

2 ай бұрын

Lawyers have gone far far Left, too. Just observe the a law schools. There is a place for elders to staff organisations that pro-socialise the young. It used to be left to Boy Scouts and the Brownies. And before that, Boy’s Clubs. These successful earlier models can be reworked and revived and the culture put onto a path for redemption.

@vladprus4019

2 ай бұрын

@@Orson2u Yeah, once middle-level experts got this ideas, everyone started hiring them (because they're experts) and than they starter to get influence like everywhere

Students shared "i" Am what is universities? Resting upon will be DETERMINED. Comes aims can be kept nor spit out without taste!

“What a sick thing to do in a multi ethnic democracy” 👌

I d wish we could see the slides !

Just a point of feedback for the channel, it’s important for us KZread watchers to be able to see the slides, especially when the presenter is pointing at them with true laser pointer.

FOLLOW THE MONEY. Haidt's analysis of students makes plenty of sense. But the problem with higher ed started decades ago with the baby bust in the 70s. Colleges have been pimping for students ever since, allowed corporate culture in to try to stay alive, and turned into Customer Satisfaction vulnerable to the pathologies of the young. Until TENURED professors who value DISCIPLINES and CHALLENGING students to learn, rather than abused adjuncts enslaved to student evaluations, run things again, nothing will happen. Presidents appointed for political and economic reasons will continue to cater to the Customer (who really doesn't give a rat's ass about social justice and is rebelling against professors' power to tell them they're not Special).

37:27 All of the above and won't apologize for it

Show the graphs!

In the chapter titles you write The Temos. It's The Telos.

Oh he is great! He added over regulation! Fantastic!

The left at 14:04. I also find an interesting trend is when the left started turning on fellow members of the left. Usually this occurred after a left-leaning academic took an unpopular position held by the left. This happened in Canada to Lindsey Shepard and Jordan Peterson back in 2016-2018.

Was this at Chapel Hill?

@d.annejohnson5631

2 ай бұрын

Yes, organized by an undergraduate organization dedicated to the preservation of free speech and the protection freedom from one sided politics in the classroom and in academic research and scholarship.

No enseñan las graficas😢😢😢

Students in high school need to take Socratic Logic early and then those skills need to be reinforced in all the humanities classes until graduation. Teach them how to argue correctly and how to identify and challenge fallacious arguments. Then they might understand what they have to do in college to think critically and effectively.

At 12:30 "Any Harvard undergrad would have been expelled instantly for doing a tenth of what the President did". Is that even remotely true? I'm certainly no fan of Gay, and I think she should have been removed from her job for the totality of her actions in general, but I looked into the plagiarism allegation, and I really can't bring myself to find them serious. They are all in rote introductory or expository text of prior art, they consist mostly in some reformulations of very boilerplate statements, and the lack of attribution seems to me of the same type as in a physics paper not attributing something like the value of the charge of the electron to whoever discovered it. None of the instance are, as far as I can tell, material in any way. I've always found the focus on these allegations completely misguided and hypocritical, and I'm rather flabbergasted by Haidt's wholesale peddling of these with no critical distance at all.

@EyeByBrian

Ай бұрын

Well said. 👏🏻

Actual talk begins at 5:15.

Haidt's concept of a discover-defend dichotomy sounds suspiciously similar to the standard approach-avoidance contrast. Or perhaps Dr Haidt is trying to soften another standard dichotomy: fight or flight. Nevertheless, I think these binary categories are lacking, and need to be scaled from ignore to observe to the approach/avoid (discover/defend, fight/flight, etc) branching.

@samchandler2527

2 ай бұрын

LOL!

@Orson2u

2 ай бұрын

The study of mental Trauma and brain science has deepened these contrasts and put them into neurological and evolutionary perspectives. I bet he expands on this in his forthcoming book. Yet could he finessed this better - I bet he could have.

23:00 this is really a huge issue. The psychiatric/psychological community refuses to see this is a major issue and dig into why and how to address the root cause. And they won’t, they make too much money prescribing drugs to try to treat it. The medical community is really at fault here. They refuse to do the work to see the root cause and offer some strict recommendations

How come the graphics aren't be shown? Come on, UNC, it's not that hard - you can even swing the camera over as a last resort. This guy, Haidt, deserves better production values.

Haidt would not say it - but it seemed to me he thinks some university presidents should be fired - not moved within the university - but fired and sent on their way. I would also speculate that he believes the "studies" should be eliminated and those professors also sent on their way. But I doubt this will happen in more than a few places. Rot is difficult to correct in a tree - you either cut it down or just wait for it to fall under its own weight.

Reminds me of the free speech zones where the huddled protesters behind a chain linked fence.

He makes it sound like the right and left are equally responsible for this state of affairs but the left is 50x more guilty than the right and the right is 50x more marginalized. He also contradicted himself, first saying lack of viewpoint diversity is a problem and then at the end of his talk, saying the exact opposite.

I'm wondering what advice Haidt would offer on going to therapists since so many of them have drank the Woke Kool-Aid. It's like going to the hospital to be treated, only to catch a virus while there.

I wish JH went after this whole "My Truth" dilemma that is especially prominent on college campuses. Tell students definitively that there is no such thing as 'my truth' ... that word is opinion.

It might be helpful for universities to propose and research effective models of social justice as a part of civics. The interest in and need for social justice is valid and relevant. It would be key to study not only our rights, but our responsibilities, as people and as citizens. For example, free speech is a right that comes with the responsibility of not suppressing the free speech of those we disagree with. I feel like the predominant model of social justice today is distorted. A social justice that seeks to undo all of the wrongs done in the past is unreasonable. It creates an unrealistic standard that flames anger and impedes valid progress. We can more effectively focus on addressing current injustices. For example, colonialism. It has been the way of the world for millennia. It’s not realistic to give back all of the land that has ever been taken by invaders. For example, the Jews and the Palestinians may need to give up their centuries old or ancient claim to all of Palestine/Israel if they are to live in peace together. It’s not a surrender if the outcome is to meet the needs of both peoples in the present and the future. Fair treatment henceforth is a worthy goal. We know that in life past wrongs are often impossible to undo. Present wrongs are not.

You've been cashing in on this problem for over a decade. Yes, we've noted as much. And yes, it is a problem.

It's pretty obvious why.

the DSM is a dangerous nonsense but has created successful and profitable 'brands' otherwise marketed as 'disorders'

Well from what we see, there is no evidence that things are going to improve, on the contrary.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

Is that what your research tells you?

@mukavelli

2 ай бұрын

Research tells you what has happened in the past or what is happening in the present there is no example where things in society are reverted to a previous state, there might be corrections of processes that have been proved to be negative, but the results will be different than they originally intended to be. You can't reverse cultural changes, only make small corrections, so no, I don't think it will happen because it has never happened before in history. My point was that things are going to be worse because the excuse for using technology is that makes things easier for us, people will always chose the easier things in life but that is detrimental to our biological body and brain. You can say I will make a better transhuman but not a human.@@vivienneb6199

@gmw3083

2 ай бұрын

Free Palestine

The problems of the university has less to do with social media & cell phones and more to do with the educational systems pushing their DEI agenda. In the end we will have two separate systems; those colleges that embrace DEI like Harvard and places of academic excellence that reject DEI.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

Who told you that?

@whatsdoin2392

2 ай бұрын

@@vivienneb6199 It has started already since some schools have reinstated SAT and abolished DEI. Harvard will remain a bastion for DEI and has made a complete transformation to a school for social justice warriors. Its my opinion but I think its obvious. Best of luck to everyone.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@whatsdoin2392 Who told you this? lol 100% you haven't done your own research, and just parrot the IDW Christopher Rufo, James Lindsay right-winger nonsense. You are funny though, and I'll bet you think you are an independent free thinker. Of, course, you are really just good at swallowing. Sadly, that seems to be the name of the game these days.

@whatsdoin2392

2 ай бұрын

@@vivienneb6199 I know what I see. Harvard's apple has a w o r m. Enjoy.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@whatsdoin2392 You don't now what you are talking about. You haven't even looked at any Academic Department at Harvard. You just parrot the talking points of silly mediocre people like Haidt. Now go look at Harvard's Philosophy Department. What do they teach? I will warn you, there are a few women on the faculty. Yikes. lol

I came to US to study my PhD in media study at University at Buffalo. They said they will provide support but I ended up paying about 100K and not even get help and they did this some of other international student who contacted me and asked about the program. Luckily they refused. They gave my tuition to other students who garantide as TA. Most of the professors have very old fashion and low knowledge. Too much politics and I am also working on a doc about white man sexual harassment on some of international students

The problem is the liberal arts programs. These students are not serious academic students.

@user-hl4jj3hb4h

2 ай бұрын

Surely you jest? Where would we be without liberal arts? I agree that it's not a great way to make a living, but where would we be without Shakespeare????

@SeamusMcFitz-jz9if

2 ай бұрын

@user-hl4jj3hb4h every piece of technology that you use everyday in your pocket was invented by a STEM graduate.

@Killahcombo

2 ай бұрын

Why do you think that Shakespeare was liberal? Why do you think that every great artist was liberal? What do you know about their actual mental states??? @@user-hl4jj3hb4h

@Gingerblaze

2 ай бұрын

@@SeamusMcFitz-jz9if perhaps the lack of a more rounded education is why STEM graduates have failed to understand the negative consequences of their inventions?

@SeamusMcFitz-jz9if

2 ай бұрын

@Gingerblaze and the technology you are using right now to post and transmit your message was invented by a computer science, engineering graduate or a liberal arts one? I'll take a tall Americano 2xcreme and 3xsugar. Thanks hun. Everything you know is hearsay. Sad. My last journal article was published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology. You? Besides on KZread... I generate knowledge. You copy and apply it. I can do what you do but you can never do what I do. Sad. The world class hospital that I work in hires liberal arts Phds at the Starbucks counter...we all make fun.

Young mammals in discover mode "Play, play play" and Keep Playing!!!😄🤪😂

@Papaconstantopoulos

2 ай бұрын

You doing okay over there, KZread Commenter?

Overall very enlightening, but, see an issue here, the meaning of life, J.H. suggests movement, filling a void. I suggest reproduction, without reproduction no voids would be filled, all living things simply live to reproduce first, which then supports evolution, evolution supports development to be able to fill such voids.

it was like this in 2004

Look through the comments. We got two scared bots: vivien and gmw. They’re very upset lol

Well, he finally crossed all the way over the line. They won't forgive him.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

Are you joking? Haidt is so banal, and hardly a threat to anyone or anything.

@gmw3083

2 ай бұрын

He's a defender of zion. The wrong side of history

@gmw3083

2 ай бұрын

​@@vivienneb6199He's a threat to Palestine

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@gmw3083 Is that right, a threat to Palestine? Haidt didn't see the protests, as far as i can tell. Where did you hear him discuss the conflict?

@gmw3083

2 ай бұрын

@@vivienneb6199 I might have of inferred it. I forgot already. He seems to align with Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson regarding similar issues. He's not paid to shill for israel though, like Murray. So that's nice...

I see mostly conservative commentators challenging universities and it was reagan who defunded the universities forcing higher and higher tutions and fees. And i/p is apartheid for those who cannot see that. And i have jewish family members who feel the same.

@sanniepstein4835

2 ай бұрын

See Bill Warner on the history of Islam.

The root cause of much of what Jonathan Haidt says in the lecture is not a new phenomenon. When I started my PhD program in the early 1990s there was a "new" theory of postmodernism that had swept universities. The social sciences and humanities were big on it. There were critics of postmodernism, but they were often dismissed by the left as the old guard not wanting change. If you skip to 2024 the results are evident on university campuses. I do find one unexpected problem was when the left started turning on each other, especially when one person disagreed with the other. This has lead to cancel culture and wokeism in the last decade, fueled in part by social media and student protests. Free speech and critical thinking are under attack, with very few people speaking up to the problems.

Measuring historical rates of anxiety and depression is impossible.

Why don't we see the monitor with the statistics? Like this the talk is absolutely useless.

Universities: Jonathan haidt thank you for this talk on identity, universities need diversity not identity. DEI - Diversity equality and Inclusion is for all in. I am grateful for your books but especially the righteous mind, thank you.

Humanities academia supposed to filled the gap left by religion and they are failing us.

@Gingerblaze

2 ай бұрын

Moral relativisim replacing moral reality

@yewjunhao3615

2 ай бұрын

@@Gingerblaze Ethic nuance replace dogma. Charles Dicken want us to live a life of the poor, Jane Austen for the life of trapped women, dostoevsky for the life with moral conflict. None of them really have a true answer for moral. Anyone said otherwise like you are ignorant.

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ what is wrong with Jonathan’s bullhorn …….. is he going to be OK?

@Papaconstantopoulos

2 ай бұрын

Sure that a grown educated man with a raspy throat will be fine lol

@99guspuppet8

2 ай бұрын

@@Papaconstantopoulos ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

As a prudent Kirk Conservative, I have very much enjoyed the speeches and studies of Jonathan Haidt. He seems to have a decent idea of the causes of the insanity we are seeing. The solutions won't work no matter who proposes them simply because the country is too far gone to recover at this point, but it leaves some hope in the future in the event the USA splits, and red and blue go their own ways at least domestically, etc. I only hope both sides learn because building up colleges and K-12 will be a huge project after that split for both camps, not to mention the hope that the split is not a huge bloody mess, but a mutual divorce that our leaders can get ahead of.

@Orson2u

2 ай бұрын

YOU ARE, I fear, SPOT ON.

@randomnobody8770

2 ай бұрын

This is a myopic and defeatist attitude which laughs in the face of history and the ability of the US to overcome. The US absolutely needs - and perhaps the West in general - needs a better vision, better ethos, better leaders, and metter "myths to live by" to borrow from Joseph Campbell. The US has overcome myriad greater challenges in its comparatively young and thriving life. History books are filled - primarily - which such overcoming. The US can certainly ascend to higher highs. National divorce ideology out of place, out of time, and out of touch. And I think social media is leading us to such epistemic and narrative isolation, as Haidt has argued elsewhere. Its a new technology, and we're only beginning to understand it, and compared to history, it is a trifling challenged for the US.

@Papaconstantopoulos

2 ай бұрын

^ well said Also, where exactly do you think Americans will go?

*The equivocating was a bit disappointing, and Haidt's bias as a lefty was painfully evident* Assuming the "far right" advocates for ethno-nationalism and racial hierarchies, not a single Repub (in Congress or otherwise) publicly espouses such a view, so Haidt's claim that Congress has been captured by the "far right" is utterly ridiculous. Contrast that with open "socialists"/communists in office under the Dem party. What's worse, Haidt can't name a single domain or institution where the right is dominant or ascendant (the police and military went woke), so equivocating the cultural influence of the right with that of the left is willful ignorance or abject dishonesty.

@Papaconstantopoulos

2 ай бұрын

Exhibit A for those who call Haidt (and his colleagues) a conservative in liberal's clothing

It’s not a “collective action problem”. Kids can thrive without phones WHILE peers have them.

@willmercury

2 ай бұрын

Thriving among the foundering; how's that been going this last decade?

@1:20 Haida say the Left has control of certain institutions. And the Right does, too. EXCEPT the Right’s control has diminished to little but the majority of US states. Anyone? Can you name more than that one?

What about my pizza???

Yes, but it’s secular. This is happening too not Christian girls check that out Professor.

24y

All of these perceptions this person points out, difference between 2013 and 2016, structural stupidity has nothing to do with left or right or academic content, its exclusively came about bc of our changes of mediums of communication, from print dominated culture to electronic, and in particular social media which simplifies, stupidifies all aspects of identity, critical thinking and culture. In short, this guy is missing the boat about the actual reasons causing these cultural, university and mental (health) changes.

I applaud your efforts to bridge the political and cultural divides in our great country. But I think you still misunderstand the right. You talk about the right's reaction to the excesses of progressives as extreme, and authoritarian. I completely disagree. Only a tiny minority of the right is made up of skin heads and Neo Nazis. I'd ask you to remember Antifa and Black Lives Matter on the left. I can't remember the last time a right wing extremist group caused a problem. But Antifa and BLM have burned down neighborhoods all across the country, accosted citizens, killed people and they are glorified by the mainstream media and the left wing. If the excesses of the left continue to go unchecked (I appreciate your efforts in trying to allay this!) and if it does come to revolution soome day then at that point the right will be more like the America of WWII standing against the oppressors, and not as an authoritarian regime. And if evil men in that effort, rising to the top as Hayek warns, then the true Americans will again rise up and bring them down. America is not about authoritarianism, it's about Liberty. Read Mill again.

Acronyms are exclusive, inequitable & offensive to the common man DEI? WTF JH, UNC?

It makes sense that Liberal Arts fields like 'social psychology' and 'sociology' are almost entirely left wing, because those fields really have no place in a free society, those fields exist entirely within an ideology that wants to assert control over everyone's lives. If individuals are free to make their own choices and accept the consequences of their decisions, 'sociology' and 'social psychology', are merely a novel curiosity, a study for the sake of the study, so people within those fields who want their field to be relevant want a powerful government in control that will force their theories onto the masses and govern the individual lives of every citizen according to the 'consensus of the experts'.

Gay plagiarized her acknowledgments ?? Dude, if you can't even write the acknowledgments, then, well, I guess that would make sense if she didn't need to do any actual acknowledgments

Phones? This epidemic was caused by PHONES? I'm aghast! I grew up in Pennsylvania - a place where many people don't even own phones. I grew up in the 1960's-70's - I remember when phones came out - and I could not grasp why all my friends stopped talking and started staring at their phones all day. I think it's sick. If you want an antidote to this cultural change, go to PA. and study the anti-phone culture there. I was not even allowed to speak on a phone until I was 17. I find all of these problems you speak of very alien - but then I'm also amazed at how much everyone around me uses their phones! (I'm currently living in LA). Well - I don't use mine often at all. I'm just not into phones. There are u-tube videos with people in PA. talking about phones and why they'd never be rude enough to have a phone at the table at a restaurant. If you go to PA, you'll see the culture. I think the distrust of phones came from our large Amish population. I hated it growing up/ but now I'm happy that I don't live my life - on the stupid PHONE!

They collaborated with the pigs and perpetuated qualified immunity.

Thank you very much Professor you’re 100% right I agree that these universities should be shut down they cannot be fixed. We need new new new universities and colleges that are not political no politics no leftism no rightism 50% Democrat 50% liberal then they can work99% One Direction it’s a total failure

"Russian agents"??? (approx. minute 46:25). He just lost me, entirely. His whole talk fell through the floor. "Russian agents" as "influencers" on social media. Holy Moly! Does he not realize that he just did cancel culture ON RUSSIANS?

@inquisitor4635

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was a bit of a lefty talking point stretch on his part.

@Papaconstantopoulos

2 ай бұрын

You gonna be alright?

This guy is indominable!

What a load of nonsense.

Is that your big intellectual insight, Haidt, that kids used to go out and play? Or is it your advice to college students, turn off your notifications? Is that the intellectual content you hope happens in the University? lol

@NJIT22

2 ай бұрын

He is giving you facts and providing explanations as well as his best recommendations. You don’t like what he saying for political reasons. If you so smart can you enlighten us why we have a rise in teen suicides and other problems in universities. I work in this field and can testify that he is correct

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@NJIT22 It is NOT political, sweetheart. I am against DEI, but ALSO against Haidt's dumbing down of the intellectual arena. Try thinking for yourself. That's my recommendations. Don't be so fragile,

@joshcohen777

2 ай бұрын

My goodness, you are insufferable.

@WhizzingFish12

2 ай бұрын

It's a quick, easy to remember "tagline" for much deeper issues. And they are deep and complex. Suffice it to say that your take that his findings are simple or facile is highly incorrect. I work with kids every day and the impact of safety culture, social media, etc are huge and deeply detrimental.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@WhizzingFish12 I am right, and you are wrong. It is simpleminded, and any 8th grader could have come up with the observations he repeatedly reports. This is the same discussion people had in the 70s about the impact of television on young minds. Everyone knows social media is "detrimental," and we know how and why. It is not common sense. And guess what, if you go back a couple more generations (my grandparents), plenty of kids only went to 8th grade (at best), worked on farms or in factories, and walked 5 miles in the snow to get to their jobs or school. Let's bring back the good old days!

So weird how he talks to the audience like they are 6th graders. "Rais your hand" ffs

@Tomyum19

2 ай бұрын

It really shows you've never been to a lecture.

@NJIT22

2 ай бұрын

@@Tomyum19 she has a problem because he is pulling the carpet from underneath her feet

@Sapwolf

2 ай бұрын

Would you say that if he was black?

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@Sapwolf Yes, I would. I am not ideologically possessed, like you obviously are. I thought this was about a "diversity of ideas." Why are you so fragile? If I disagree with Haidt, and the sycophants in the room, you make it a racial issue. How twisted!

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@Tomyum19 Are you really that dumb?

What's with the "raise your hand" nonsense. How condescending and patronizing. Why coddle the audience? Are they children?

@NJIT22

2 ай бұрын

I am reading your comment and picking up one by one criteria for Borderline personality disorder. You definitely on axis B spectrum

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@NJIT22 that's not an argument, sweetheart. You are the problem.

@Orson2u

2 ай бұрын

I think he only used this to count responses by audience members and use it merely to illustrate his points.

@ms-jl6dl

2 ай бұрын

You really got the most important issue from those 90 minutes. You are so stunning and brave. Keep it up.

@vivienneb6199

2 ай бұрын

@@ms-jl6dl No, I'm just not stupid. lol

Free Palestine

@Orson2u

2 ай бұрын

FROM ISLAMISM! There. I corrected your insanity.

@fastfreddy3103

2 ай бұрын

From Hamas.

@gmw3083

2 ай бұрын

@@fastfreddy3103 Free your mind. From the programming