Did not see that coming this early on…

@jonathan0225

13 күн бұрын

I dont think Rhaenys has choice. Rook's rest is one of theirs and they have to defend it. Im not sure if the blacks knows that its a trap as there were no sightings of dragons reported (sus and bold for cole's campaign to just parade and sack places like that). She had to stand ground and stomp Cole's host. Aegon the drunk driver was irrelevant and a wildcard there, but vhagar the ninja was definitely a threat they didnt know was hidden in the bushes.

@melissagreye8445

13 күн бұрын

Rhaenys could not leave because she would be leaving her men behind. Rhaenyra's allies depend on her dragon riders to be there during battles. If word got out Rhaenyra's dragon riders leave battles, her allies would switch sides to the Greens.

@jonathan0225

13 күн бұрын

@@melissagreye8445 correct!

@secondeye1574

13 күн бұрын

I like the meta-analysis of this episode! The way the show portrays both sides differently, and observing how certain characters like Cole are more interesting when they're not one-note are topics I've been thinking about this season.

@jonathan0225

13 күн бұрын

@@secondeye1574 makes the narrative of the book interesting for sure. Its almost as if the fire and blood's picture is incomplete. The show gives a much needed POV. Aemond is playing on his own team.

Sunfyre cares for Aegon more than his entire family😢

@soahamtripathy2113

13 күн бұрын

Man alicent really forgot she was the one who dragged aegon and crowned him. It wasn't like aegon was the one who actively wanted the throne

@elvisdospassos4680

13 күн бұрын

@@soahamtripathy2113 And the fact is, if Cole n Aemond told the plan to Aegon he probably would go for it and stayed in KingsLanding. Aegon just wanted to be a part of the team.

@Alcinaswifefrfr

13 күн бұрын

animals are too kind

@HK-gm8pe

13 күн бұрын

it literally gave me like hes playing with his dog , drtagons are all soo special and dont deserve whats happening to them ❤

@HK-gm8pe

13 күн бұрын

@@soahamtripathy2113 soo true, I felt soo bad for the guys, he never wanted this , he was literally dragged and forced into this position and now his humiliated and told on every corner that he isnt good enough , i can imagine how shitty he feels

To answer your question why Rhaenys stayed, it’s because the goal wasn’t to injure the dragons, it was to defend Rooks Rest (the castle). What message would she be telling Rhaenyra’s supporters if she went and fled the battle? That’s why she stayed. She only thought of injuring Vhagar as an added bonus, but the main goal was to defend the castle.

@GustavoCardoso95

13 күн бұрын

in my mind she was really trying to kill them both right there, to avoid her grandchildren having to fight this war. Rhaenys should have obeyed daemon in ep 1

@andymason3555

13 күн бұрын

I think these are both good thoughts on her reasons. She’s a fighter, and she didn’t run away. But I also wonder if finding Corlys’s son affected her. She also had this willingness to die in her face. I do think it was about doing as much damage as possible and defending the allies, but there had to be a reason they put her interaction with the son in this episode.

@nikito7128

13 күн бұрын

It's that simple. I refuse to explain this because people asking the question why she turns back do not understand the concept of duty 😢. Anyways respect for explaining

@Wolfhunter5607

13 күн бұрын

@@nikito7128 lmao it’s like some people are slow on purpose. i just don’t get it

@light5869

13 күн бұрын

​@@GustavoCardoso95 exactly 😢

Yeah that little scene between Sunfyre and Aegon in the dragon pit was adorable 🥲

@queenxx1690

12 күн бұрын

it was nothing what we should and could get they have the best bond of all yet they took it away Aegon cannot have one thing in show

@christopherpage2622

11 күн бұрын

​@@queenxx1690and sadly sunfyre hasn't been made to look like the most beautiful dragon there ever was either as personally I wish they'd made it look almost unreal and otherworldly with the gold and glistening scales, I forgot the exact description from the book

@hokagedlo6133

9 күн бұрын

I disagree, beauty is always subjective but hes definitely the most beautiful in my opinion. Drogon is the most iconic/ badass and Caraxes is the most unique ​@christopherpage2622

@FrederikSeerupNielsen

9 күн бұрын

@@christopherpage2622 Sunfyre had shining golden scales that would shine like actual gold in the sun and had pink membranes under his wings. It's fire breath was golden as well.

@Bayard1503

6 күн бұрын

@@christopherpage2622 They made him beautiful and slender... but again you have to take into account that the book is very subjective pro-Green so of course the king is brave, of course he worked with Aemond, of course he has the best connection with his dragon... stuff like that is most likely an exaggeration in the book. Rhaenys and Daemon for example have been bonded with their dragons for much longer and went into battle together.... why would their connection be any weaker?

"He's a dickhead, but he's in his element here." The realest breakdown of that ass Criston I've heard 🤣🤣🤣.

@kingkohli4952

7 күн бұрын

and why is that cole is the bad guy here? dude wass wronged by princess used and discarded he choose to end his iife, alison supported him and now he is fighting for them? what did he do that is soooooooo wrong? who is the saint in the show? no one is

@4523bgb

7 күн бұрын

@@kingkohli4952 everyone sucks.

Vhagar doesn’t view those other dragons as family. lol, she has zero issue killing them.

@manvirshergill1739

13 күн бұрын

As if Dragons have a conscious 😂

@alexevans4637

13 күн бұрын

​@@manvirshergill1739They have. Did you forget how Syrax mourned Arrax? How Vhagar refused to kill Laena?? How Sunfyre loves Aegon? In the book it is said that dragons are very intelligents.

@behshads1505

13 күн бұрын

"Visenya hold tight Im gonna demolish those Dornish bastards" granny Vhagar with dementia probably

@GLitiatc0

13 күн бұрын

@@manvirshergill1739they do have a consciousness, they’re just very loyal. It’s how we like to imagine dogs are, in that they will fight and do anything for their owners. But unlike dragons dogs will not fight for their owners, and it requires certain breeds that want to fight each other for that to happen

@ThePointlessBox_

13 күн бұрын

Vhagar is a warmachine its not the first time she's killed her kin

I love how you guys are like peeking over from your seats towards the screen as if you could see over Sunfyre's tail that coiled around Aegon. xD

I genuinely feel for Aegon, no one loves him and people shit on him for putting him in a position he never wanted

@shockwave1126

13 күн бұрын

Same here.

@ishan_ghimire

13 күн бұрын

That short interaction of him with Sunfyre really broke me. He is the only ray of sunshine in Aegon's life

@spartanoreo5075

13 күн бұрын

I feel bad for him, but he definitely sowed his own problems with Aemond last episode. Its a shame that how much he tries to make himself a good king now, he can't escape all the years of the lack of preparation caused by him not wanting the throne and everyone, even his own mother thinks he will never escape it.

@xoxi306

13 күн бұрын

I dont feel bad for a rapist

@Birdflaps20

12 күн бұрын

@@xoxi306another thing made up by the show to make greens look worse

Aegon doesn't need enemies when he has family like alicent and aemond

@vivien8417

13 күн бұрын

don’t forget otto

@_justinblizzle

13 күн бұрын

All there and willing to help- he just doesn’t have to be a dick

@helloworld-sl2lw

12 күн бұрын

Tbf he's in the wrong, Aemond, Alicent and Otto are all trying to rule the kingdom properly.

@thatoneblackdude3333

12 күн бұрын

For real with family like this who needs enemies.

@c0mmas

12 күн бұрын

As if he's not the problem... aegon fans are so delusional

Sunfyre the golden, the most beautiful dragon in history, you did well my boy.

@emikomina

13 күн бұрын

show ruined him, barely see him at all and when you do, he doesn't even look like the most beautiful dragon there ever was, he was barely gold also. idk how they can even mess that up

@blackshade1840

13 күн бұрын

he is just starting :)

@mjbull5156

13 күн бұрын

All Sunfyre needs is a few good meals, and he'll be right as rain.

@josegarcia2343

13 күн бұрын

Hell naw

@astrojeet

13 күн бұрын

@@emikomina He definitely looks the most beautiful lol. And he's just getting started.

Aegon and Sunfyre are literally one soul in 2 bodies.

@Yoonbum-jr

13 күн бұрын

The fact that they had sunfyre loose so quickly hurts bc in the books sunfyre actually gave meleys a run for her money

@Yoonbum-jr

13 күн бұрын

@@vivien8417 no its dumb as hell of the change

@robinnussbaumer5943

13 күн бұрын

​@@Yoonbum-jr just another level of making the greens look awfull/dumb/bad it is what it is condal is a black Supporter and we are the poorer for it

@Yoonbum-jr

13 күн бұрын

@@robinnussbaumer5943 fr like bro sunfyre was actually a good fighter

@hokagedlo6133

13 күн бұрын

Sunfyre fought well what are you talking about in the books meleys still won, but Sunfyre fought well just like the show ​@Yoonbum-jr

People wondering why Rhaenys didn't leave like she was there to secure the rocks nest and if she fled it would spred that the ppl serving under Rhaneryra left and she tried to harm Vhagar the most she could thus neutralising the biggest threat. Aemond is twice a kinslayer now. Cursed!

@adedayooyegunju828

13 күн бұрын

No. The reason why was she should have killed them in episode 9 and she did not because they were are family. 2ndly if she kills vhagar and aemond the war ends right there after aegon was killed. The first one led to the 2nd.

@DarthKay093

13 күн бұрын

@@adedayooyegunju828🙄🙄🙄

@adedayooyegunju828

13 күн бұрын

​@@DarthKay093 yeah, my bad 😅

@varanisshouyou4379

13 күн бұрын

​@@adedayooyegunju828the reason why she left in episode 9 was because she didnt want to start a war on her own

@secondeye1574

13 күн бұрын

I mean possibly. But also I think Aegon being defeated was enough of a win in Rhaenyra's book

Was Rhaenys there to injure or take out the dragons? No. She was there to DEFEND THE CASTLE. Her queen sent her to defend the fort of a close ally who sits on Rhaenyra's council. Fighting the Green dragons is just the way to save the castle. Hence why she stayed. Also people are not giving her enough credit, in a straight up 1v1 fight, Meleys managed to push down Vhagar on the ground because of its agility. It wouldnt be wrong if she felt in the moment that she could finish off Vhagar.

@Zephur0s

12 күн бұрын

Right. Vhagars big ass took a tumble

@torgpc

10 күн бұрын

If she was there to defend the castle is stupid to fight in the air away of the castle and the archers

Rhaenys, the queen who never was, the queen who should have been, went out like a true targaryen queen

The way Sunfyre shielded Aegon to protect him from the fall 💔

For me Aegon's Character is the best in the story so far. I feel bad for him tbh all he's trying to do is get approval from his mother and prove himself... I know he can be sh*tty but still i see him as a tragic character. And the actor's performance is top🤌🏻

@shockwave1126

13 күн бұрын

That scene with Alicent… I could feel his hear break. Amazing actors.

Sunfyre the golden, the most beautiful dragon in history, you did well my boy😭

@emikomina

13 күн бұрын

show ruined him, barely see him at all and when you do, he doesn't even look like the most beautiful dragon there ever was, he was barely gold also. idk how they can even mess that up

@ViniciusGabriel-ev4uw

13 күн бұрын

@@emikomina maybe his performance wasn't the best at this battle, but visually he's fine

@mohammedraihaaan2251

12 күн бұрын

​@@emikominajust stop watching the show , the books will always be better and also pls stop complaining cause it's so fucking annoying

@jackgould5332

11 күн бұрын

​@@mohammedraihaaan2251 I'm a book reader myself and I'm loving the dragons and the small changes don't really bother me because the book is in the perspective of a meister so things are menat to be exaggerated and even the author has stated this

@tbakhalid4781

4 күн бұрын

​@@mohammedraihaaan2251 as a book reader myself I feel so annoyed at these other book readers continuously whining.

When Meley look back at Rhaeny, my heart start aching 😭😭😭 Rhaenys Targaryen (the Queen Who Never Was) and Meley R.I.P., including Sunfyre😢

In the book, it was a 2v1 fight. Meleys the swiftest dragon against Sunfyre & Vhagar the largest. And Rhaenys refused to surrender or flee. It was kill or be killed. But if we take the show's reasoning, i think Rhaenys went back the second time around because she already injured Vhagar and was going to finish the job. Vhagar/Aemond was the biggest threat from the side of the Green.

@Wolfhunter5607

13 күн бұрын

also what type of message would u be sending if u give up and flee like a bitch

@shaiksohail1810

13 күн бұрын

Yeah! They made a lot of changes in show. Aegon and Aemond had much better relationship during war

@user-tm5du8zf3t

12 күн бұрын

There is no ''finish the job'' when its not even started Vhagar barely has a scratch and that crash did nothing to her

@Wolfhunter5607

12 күн бұрын

@@soulscyther666 basically just a suicide mission going up against vhagar. that’s y daemon told Rhaenys they should take caraxes and Meleys to go attack vhagar

@henadelacruz8460

12 күн бұрын

Yeah, Aemond loves sneak attacks.

Rhaenys could've escaped but it would be equivalent to abandoning Rhaenyra's supporters and she had already brought down Aegon and had an opportunity to finish Vhagar who fell from quite a height.

If rhaenys left then she knew that she would lose the castle and rhaenryas supporters to Aemond. She had to stay and fight

@mayastreb

13 күн бұрын

and eventually destroyed the castle herself with her dragon...

@stew-03

13 күн бұрын

@@mayastreb More terrorist activities just like in the Dragonpit.

Aemond really tried to commit regicide with all the subtlety of a lead pipe.

@shockwave1126

13 күн бұрын

I thought he was going to allow Rhaenys just finish Aegon. Didn’t think he would fill on do it himself. Aemond wanted his brother to know. Just cold.

@JynxedKoma

12 күн бұрын

The thing is, Meleys was a battle hardened Dragon, the biggest the Blacks had available to them in that moment in the absence of Daemon's and riderless Vermithor. Meleys would have had no issue putting an end to Sunfyre and Aegon, had only Aemond remained hidden for a few minutes.

@queenxx1690

12 күн бұрын

@@JynxedKoma This pro black show is ridiculous they completely erased Sunfyer involvement little but fierce dragon

Achilles: Imagine a king who fights his own battles. Wouldn't that be a sight. Honestly, big respect for Aegon for being a king and going into the literal front lines. He's being mocked by most as stupid, and sure, it may have been stupid. But the soldiers still saw their king fight and risk his life with them.

@rahimg6842

13 күн бұрын

@@beige_projection exactly and he also faced a f****g dragon. I don't think many in the blacks faction would have that courage.

@beige_projection

13 күн бұрын

@@rahimg6842 Not just a dragon,, but a bigger one. He also probably recognized Meleys. The fastest dragon in the realm. Yet he still faced her without hesitation. It's a shame King Aegon doesn't get the credit he deserves. Not from his family, not from most of the audience. When he was charging, most reactors were only calling him stupid. But when Rhaenys turned back two times to face Vhagar, people called her brave boss queen 😮‍💨Where's the justice.

@HamzaNajiri

13 күн бұрын

​@@beige_projectionI absolutely agree with you !

@Rated_RMN

13 күн бұрын

​@@beige_projection Aegon is brave, yes. That doesn't change the fact that he impulsively went into battle, putting himself at an unnecessary risk, while drunk. He's clearly very insecure in his position, has no knowledge of how to rule or even implement a strategy, as evidenced since own council is collaborating behind his back, and is clearly illsuited to be the King.

@askyeyv7039

13 күн бұрын

@@Rated_RMN There is other thing no one seems to notice. Aemond / Cole didnt tell him anything about their plan or trap. Aegon was convinced Vhagar stayed in the city and there is only gonna be small siege without any black dragon. He wanted to help them and instead he got caught right in the middle of green's trap while on on top of that aemond instead of helping him not only waited he even attacked him.

I think princess rhaenys was looking for vhagar flying too low thinking she injured the dragon already, and she was too low passing through the castle it was a blind spot 😭

The death of the dragons is horrible :( I feel so sad for them

To appreciate Rhaenys staying we must remember the situation Rhaenyra is in. The little support she has needs her dragons to defend them. Which is why Rhaenys, smart as she is, knows she can't flee. She represents the queen as one of her dragonriders. "If the Queen flees at the first sign of trouble, why should we support her against these overwhelming odds?" Also, as Aemond explained, Rook's Rest is important because the Blacks losing it cuts Dragonstone off from Westeros. The blacks must defend it at all costs. Lastly, Meleys is the Blacks best dragon. She's the most capable of harming Vhagar. Aegon & Aemond falling would be a huge victory despite the risk. Rhaenys knew this and bravely fought.

Ewan Mitchell needs an award for his performance as Aemond

fleeing the battle is bad rep for team black, imagine how hard team green would've milked it twisting it and spreading bad word among people

@Melodicroger

13 күн бұрын

I’m surprised people aren’t realizing that fleeing would do further damage with the Black’s already tenuous position with their supporters.

@shahmirbaig

13 күн бұрын

@@Melodicroger i agree, if she fled she would have been seen as a coward, and theres no way anyone would've supoorted team black after that, now atleast see will be seen as someone who took down the king himself and bravely fought the biggest dragon and the strongest asset of team green. i also see people saying that she should've listended to damon and went with him to attack vhagar in kingslanding which i think was a very stupid plan, since we've seen they had those massive dragon killing crossbows in episode 1, so not only would they have met vhagar, sunfire but also those crossbows which we've seen how effective they are at killing dragons from game of thrones .

@Noone91875

13 күн бұрын

Fleeing isn't a way of war. Especially for those who are in charge.

@kallemort

12 күн бұрын

It's bad rep, but losing your greatest weapon is far, far worse.

@shahmirbaig

12 күн бұрын

@@kallemortWe've been told time after time that dragons alone don't win wars, and team black doesnt have any great armies to spare they are already having trouble getting people to their side.

And the fact that her daughter dragon was the one killing and on top of that on her birthday date it's horrible, I knew what was coming but I Still cried

RIP to the Queen Rhaenys and Warrior Meleys! ❤️

Aemond is so cool, it's sad to see a lot of poeple not enjoying his character, taking a side and hating everyone from the other side is not a great idea if you want to enjoy this show.

@mathildeyakassongo4641

13 күн бұрын

He is charismatic not cool, and it's not a matter of side. I support team Black but I can't with Daemon. They are both out of limits. The boy attempt to kill his brother and you think he is cool ?

@the_doubletrap8325

13 күн бұрын

@@mathildeyakassongo4641 I don't mean cool as in good, but I liked him even more when he tried to kill Aegon, that piece of shit is a rapist.

@grizlybear2178

13 күн бұрын

This whole black vs green has given people mob mentality into picking sides instead of enjoying the story and characters and I'll have to agree. Aemond and Daemon are such intruiguing characters its always a treat seeing them on screen.

@effiehermann9090

13 күн бұрын

​@mathildeyakassongo4641 thanks! I'm team green but killing luce and attempting to kill aegon shows me he's more impulsive and uncontrolled than any character in this show.

@guruxara7994

13 күн бұрын

He's a Daemon's knock off, with less charisma and more cartoonish

"The woman who could reign lived without knowing fear and died between blood and fire." Today we love you more than ever ❤️‍🔥 Fly high Rhaenys Targaryen 🕊️ #HouseOfTheDragon #Rhaenys

I really feel sorry for Aegon this episode. Sunfyre was the only one who seems to really like and care for him :( ♥

@cancerseason

13 күн бұрын

he’s a rapist…

@Empxenu

13 күн бұрын

@@cancerseason Nobody's perfect.

@giselle1929

13 күн бұрын

I know he did some pretty shitty stuff but the poor guy.. it's like the whole world is against him- aegon's character development is amazing though.. he went from not caring about any of this stuff to actually taking this seriously⚡

@cancerseason

13 күн бұрын

@@giselle1929 I know yall are not excusing rape. Also, if he truly took everything seriously, he would’ve listened to his council and not shout “attack” every five minutes. He was a terrible person, not fit for the throne and I think deep down he knew.

Thank you, for mentioning about how good the soundtrack is. I have seen the last part atleast 20 times just for the soundtrack alone. It’s mind blowing how it builds up.

To answer your question why Rhaenys stayed; Rhaenys death has a quote with it "Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. with a glad cry and crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe. The Queen who never was lived fearlessly and died amidst blood and fire" - in truth in the books, the plan was for both Aemond and Aegon to be there, and Rhaenys chose to stay and fight purely to do as much damaged and do whatever she could to help Rhaenyra's side, she gave everything. In the show her reasoning is much the same, the moment she turned Meleys around with the command to attack, she knew she would not survive, but if she could even harm Vhagar, or give the castle more time to fight back, that would be valued more than anything, she was a martyr, and sacrificed herself to save others

Aegon having a hard time speaking high valyrian was hilarious 😂

9:33 Despite my love for Rhaenyra's character... Her caution was a weakness and a detriment to her own cause.

@mjbull5156

13 күн бұрын

Rhaenyra has more dragons, but they are smaller than Vhaegar, and they are getting spread thin.

@guruxara7994

13 күн бұрын

@@mjbull5156 Vhagar is slow asf, with 3 Dragons advantage Rhaneyra could've killed Aegon and Aemond.

@mjbull5156

13 күн бұрын

@guruxara7994 Rhaenyra obviously has not read her Alfred Mahan. She is allowing her numerical advantage in dragons to be destroyed in detail.

In the books they made it very clear that she made no attempt to flee despite having a brief chance. Also the odds in the book were worse since she was facing Vhagar and Sunfyre at the same time

Rhaenys didn't leave because she isn't a coward. People of westeros already think that the blacks are weak because they don't use dragons,that means rhaenys fleeing and abondoning the castle and its people who are loyal to rhaenyra would prove that they are indeed weak. But rhaenys didn't flee because her mission was to destroy cole's army,and vhagar is part of that army,so knowing that she might have a chance of at least injuring vhagar (like she did with sunfyre) was enough for her to keep fighting. This is my perspective.

@aidanrock8719

12 күн бұрын

Dying for the sake of exhibiting your room temp IQ = not a coward, gotcha

The way I was biting my nails, shaking, crying and screaming during this episode was crazy RIP Meleys and Rhaenys, Goated 😭😭 And Aemond is the king now?! Crazy! Nah this episode was too hype

Rhaenys didn’t go there to run she went there to fight! She went out like a G with her Dragon. A true Targaryen !

“When dragons flew to war, everything burned ”

aegon and sunfyre were said to have one of the strongest bonds if not the strongest during this period. aegon's actor said in an interview that he was hoping to be told to look "heroic" on dragonback because their strong bond made him a very effective dragonrider. it's a shame the show didn't show that so i'm trying to be happy with the crumbs that are the cute boop and sunfyre's protective curl around aegon's burnt body.

I think Rhaenys and Meleys attempted one of the few risky tactics that could work against Aemond and Vhagar. It's a "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" tactic, attempting to use Vhagar's size against her as they crashed to the ground. Meleys forced Vhagar into a chaotic rapid descent. Aemond and Vhagar got lucky; Vhagar could easily have fallen on Aemond, or fallen on a wing, crippling her. Riderless or crippled, she would not be capable of defending King's Landing. With Aegon and Synfyre already out of commission at that point, likely dead, the Greens would only possess Helaena's Dreamfyre (large, but inexperienced, with an inexperienced rider) and Daeron's Tessarion (no bigger than Jacaerys' Vermax); while the Blacks would have Caraxes, Syrax, Vermax and Moondancer, perhaps even Meleys had she survived it. The Blacks might have been able to just swoop in for the win. Rhaenys went back to see the result of the crash, or make another attempt, because she knows killing or injuring Vhagar or Aemond could win the war.

It's simple why Rhaenys stayed to fight : she was reproached by Daemon that she could have ended the war in the dragon pit for aegon's coronation. She wanted to make up for it, defend the castle and make the most damage she could

Another reason for Rhaenys to turn back besides Rhaenys' responsibility of defending Rooks Rest, revenging Luke, and protecting her grandchildren, is that high rewards come with high risk/ high price. Seeing the first fight between Rhaenys and Aemond, we know that Meleys actually stands a chance with Vhagar in a one-on-one battle (this is even stated in the book). If Meleys manages to seriously injure Vhagar to the point that it can't join future battles, even if the cost is Meleys's and Rhaenys's lives, it would have been worth it. Cause with Sunfyre and Vhagar down, the Greens would only have one young dragon left that can fight - Tessarion - a small blue dragon (Helaena is not a warrior and her dragon Dreamfyre won't be a threat based on the book). And Tessarion being the only dragon left would have to stay and defend Kingslanding. So army of the Greens would have to march without dragon protection, while the Blacks' dragons can all fly freely now without fearing Vhagar anymore, even the small dragons like Vermax and Moondancer. This would basically mean victory for the Black. So yes, the risk/price is high but so does the rewards. This is the fastest way for the Blacks to win the war thus preventing more deaths of common people, dragons, and Rhaenys' families.

@RAMI-m4w

10 күн бұрын

that's exactly what Daemon wanted to do in the start of the season when he asked Rhaenys to fly with him to kingslanding if she actually lessened she would have a big chance of survival

The Queen ordered Raenys to defend and hold Rooks Rest. Fleeing the field would label her a coward and she is anything but that. She fought to the death as the warrior she is.

Cole's plan was to bait Rhaenyra into sending a dragon thinking it was just to fight an army of soldiers only to have Vhagar come in and clean up. It worked, but no one anticipated Aegon to show up as well.

Vhagar cheated in both Books- Vhagas literally had to fall on Meleys when the later had her jaws locked around Sunfyre. Show- Vhagar got slammed, ran, hid behind the castle and sneak attacked. Meleys could've have beaten Vhagar but Rhaeneys' hesitation to be a kin slayer and urge to die (caz of her childrens death & husband's infidelity) brought her death.Still Rhaeneys fought valiantly 2v1, killed hundreds of soldiers, crippled Aegon and died a dragonrider's death.

always love yalls reactions thanks guys!~

That guitar piece was brilliant

SUNFYRE IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DRAGON AND AEGONS BOND WITH HIS DRAGON IS ADORABLE IDC

IMO. Rhaenys’ mission was to protect the castle. And the job wasn’t done. Even though she was outmatched once she got there, it would be the Coward’s way to retreat to fight another day. And Rhaenys is no coward. She’s as much Targaryen as anyone else and has pride in battle but also, those loyal to Rhaenyra would never forgive being abandoned by a dragon rider when they were needed most! 🔥

Was kinda silly the way she died. A dragon as big as Aemonds doesn't just disappear and there was literally one giant obstacle on the landscape where he could be hiding behind. What a waste of a dragonrider.

Reasons I believe why Rhaenys didn't run: -She wanted to end the war in one swoop by killing Vhagar/Aegon -She knew it's a trap (and that she might die) because of Cole's strange decision to attack Rook's Rest instead of Harrenhal, the greens had no choice but to send a dragon to help their supporter this close to dragonstone or they risk losing support -She would not be able to face the council if she ran and she wanted a dragonrider's death

If only Rhaenys and Team Black had listened to Daemon. They always think he's insane, but his warnings always come true. if she went with daemon, they could’ve easily killed vhagar

@Bookish_Spren

8 күн бұрын

Where would they attack Vhagar? She was at King’s Landing….they have scorpions there too…it wouldn’t be just the dragons fighting.

@namikaza9824

8 күн бұрын

@@Bookish_Spren You obviously have to make a trap, the same way the greens just did now. You think Aemond would not react to provocations from Daemon?

@Bookish_Spren

8 күн бұрын

@@namikaza9824 agree that they obviously have to make a plan which clearly Daemon didn’t even tell Rhaenys. He just orders her to get back on Meleys and go attack. She clearly says they just need to rest which is why she answers him that way.

Bro your guitar is on 🔥 that was such a dope intro!

Explaining why she went back the last time; if you knock down a superior opponent, you finish it. It's like a boxer seeing the Heavyweight Champion's knees buckle after an uppercut. You don't stop and step back, you charge in and exploit their momentary weakness.

Vhaegar is so "RAMBLING RAMGLING" (aot vibes) against the Cole's Army lol

i love all of angelo'a reactions 😂😂❤

20:04 I laughed so hard when both Carlie & Ange leans closer and higher to the screen as if they could peak at Aegon better. 😂

15:43 Agreed to an extent, but Daemon would never hurt viserys. Daemon was raised with good family morals, while Aemond didn't.

@namikaza9824

8 күн бұрын

Yeah, i don't get when people say Aemond is like Daemon. No, the point is that Daemon actually is loyal. He never turned against his brother no matter how many times he was send away and banished by him. Everyone alwas forgets Daemon had Vhagar and Caraxes under his control for 10 years! Daemon and Leana probably could have taken the crown if they wanted to.

GRUDGES!...Aemond holds grudges. Lucerys took an eye, and Aemond didn't let him forget it, lucerys eventually dies. Aegon embarrassed him at the brothel and well, he' dead too.

This episode are insaneeee! Hugs from Brazil 🇧🇷

This was heartbreaking. I read Fire and Blood, I know what happens, it doesn't soften the blow. When we FINALLY saw the bond between Aegon and Sunfyre, Sunfyre's screeches, and when Meleys kept looking back at Rhaenys, and then, it that final moment with Vhagar's jaws clamped around her throat, the look she gave Rhaenys... and then when they fell. It broke my heart.

Great reaction video

Poor Aegon and Sunfyre

Great episode 🔥

You keep ignoring the soldiers of the castle she was supposed to be defending. That is one other reason WHY she didn't leave the battlefield.

The intro❤️🔥🔥😭

Meleys was in her prime, she's in her 70s.That's a good age where a dragon has both size and power while still maintaining its speed. Vhagar is past her prime, she's around 180. Older dragons are bigger and stronger, but slower with less energy, so they tire out faster. This is why you see Vhagar using ambush tactics to kill both Arrax and Meleys.

Possible reasons why Rhaenys stayed: 1) She hoped to end the war quickly 2) She wasn’t convinced she could outrun Vhagar to Dragonstone 3) She didn’t want to make herself and Rhaenyra look weak by fleeing 4) She’s a Targaryen dragon rider 5) She’s depressed 6) She felt bad about not roasting the Greens back in season 1 ep 9

@shukry1451

4 күн бұрын

I feel like no 2 is not the case. We can see that Aemond was surprised that Rhaenys turned back to fight. Does not seem like he would chase her as well. The only possible reason i could think of based on her reaction and action in this episode is, she is a warrior, and a warrior would never run away from battle, despite it's smart or not. It's a matter of dignity for her.

amazing guitar playing bro

Rhaenys couldn't just escape, because she had orders from her Queen to take back the castle. She had to keep returning until either accomplishing her goal or dying. Adding to this, is the fact that as was stated earlier in the season, all of this could have been avoided if she had ended the greens when she had the chance so it would have been a great dishonor for her to come back without fulfilling her mission. Ultimately, she did do great damage to their armies and she either killed or seriously wounded Aegon and his dragon.

Rhaenys probably viewed herself as more expendable then her Queen, heir, or granddaughter who are the dragon riders currently on dragonstone.

THE SOULS DEATH EDIT KILLED ME OMG 😂😂😂

So the Sea Snake has two bastard sons? That's crazy but very on brand, shout out to Rhaneys for being a WARRIOR strapped in ready to fight to the death! Love and much respect my QUEEN ...

Ange I know you want team green shown in a nicer light but they actually have been compared to their book counterparts 💀

it's not a huge win for the greens, their king is literally ruined

I thought I would hate Aegon more in this show but I changed my mind. I genuinely hate Cole and Aemond now. Aemond holds grudges so deeply that he intentionally burned his brother and dragon. Despite Aegon living he was crippled and his dragon died. This made Aegon worse. He couldn't even sit on the iron throne. I can't wait for that day Daemon jumps on top of Vhagar to take Aemond's other eye with Dark Sister. The thing is though Daemon doesn't know what's happening in the real world because he is busy gathering an army for Rhaenyra. But after what he heard about Rhaenys and everything Aemond is involved in. This just made Daemon want Aemond's head more

I think she knew she was on a kamikaze mission. She was the one til now saying never send in the dragons because it’s a nuclear option. She decided that’s the only option left and took it upon herself to do this showing Rhaenyra this is what they have to do. I love the exchanged look of Meleys and her knowing it was the end and thanks for all the memories type of look. I guess Aegon shouldn’t have humiliated Aemond last episode. I feel that he’s still alive but in bad shape because they would’ve shown him dead. Sad to see her and her dragon go. It was truly heartbreaking,,,,

@JohnSmith34115

12 күн бұрын

That's ridiculous and completely goes against Rhaenys's character that was developed. She learned to be patient and wise. Yoloing and high risk completely goes against her character. This would make sense if it was Daemon after a killing child or Baela who takes risk all time. What message is Rhaenys showing? We should suicide 1 by 1 into Vhagar's mouth and lose more best dragons? The real Rhaenys's character would have left after King Aegon fell and maintain their dragon advantage to fight climatic finale together against Vhagar.

She had to give the black the best chance to do some damage, plus if she bailed on the castle the greens would’ve said she abandoned rhaenyras cause

My fav reactors ❤

But it seems Rheanys was going back to Dragonstone since it's across the Bay, not towards the forest. She came from the Bay so it looks like she had to go back that way..

What I wanna know is how , twice now , this big ass dragon keeps sneaking up on people and surprise attacking them hahah

Yes rhaenys leaving would have been a beneficial thing for rhaenyra personally for many reasons, her support/advice, her expertise and her dragon as well; but she was sent there to meet cole for rooks rest and to defend rhaenyras supporters. Rhaenyra needs an army as well, if rhaenys had abandoned them, what reason would those left who still support them have for holding out against aegons men? Why not just surrender if rhaenyra isn't willing to protect and support them as well? Also on top of that meleys having the best chance of taking vhagar over anyone else in that crucial moment, she has an opportunity to cripple the greens by taking aegon, and possibly wounding vhagar? She had too many reasons to stay and fight and all her reasons to leave would be putting personal feelings over duty, unfortunately.

Great reaction guys! And to everyone here in the comments, please remember these are fictional characters, there's not an actual political battle to be fought so please don't get so heated and just enjoy the show

A very interesting take I saw why Rhaenys went to battle in the manner that she did and didn’t flee: “Eve Best on why Rhaenys didn't command Meleys to breathe flame by saying "Dracarys" as Aegon and Aemond did: #HouseOfTheDragon "They're just like boys with guns; they want to maximize the amount of carnage. And there's something very ... I don't want to generalize, but, you know, it's very male. Whereas she's very specifically going for the dragon: Let's take out the weaponry, and don't burn everybody else randomly. There's a gritted-teeth-ness about it, because these guys are her nephews, however appallingly badly they've behaved and are behaving and however dangerous they are. Aemond is responsible for Lucerys's death. At the same time, they're her family, too. There was a lot of reluctance and the knowledge that they're effectively pushing the red button. The responsibility of that is so huge that it has to be a kamikaze mission, because how can one live with it? And that sort of samurai thing of when she comes back in - she could have escaped, and she turns around. To me, that's pure whatever she is - Arthurian knight, Lancelot, samurai. It's the noble warrior thinking, No, I'm not just going to save myself. I'm going to finish this."

I think the biggest mistake is sending their dragons to battle one by one. Cole's plan inevitably got an awful lot of his men killed.

I think Rhaenys didn’t anticipate the trap they made with Vhaegar. Aegon came in to the surprise of both sides. Rhaenys saw the chance to end this battle and the war by taking out Aegon. But when she realized Aemon tried to take out Aegon, she knew the war wasn’t gonna end there and they would lose that castle. So rather than flee, she chose to stay and try her best. Maybe she thought her experience could make up for the size difference between dragons. But she also knows that Meleys wasn’t gonna make it after this battle. So she elected to die fighting with her dragon and try to take Aegon with her. I think she felt she had a chance after she made Aemon crash. But Aemond outmaneuvered her in the last round.

Cole sending former rahnerya loyalists into battle first was such a shitty Cole move

Lastly Rhaneys didn't leave because she's not a coward!!! She stood and fought for her family because she knew if not her who was going to fight Vyhgar? Her daughters ... her grandchildren? It's not about running and getting away its about killing the threat! Easy for warrior minded people to understand.

That last look Meleys gave to Rhaenys before they turned around again was heartbreaking, they both knew what was going to come 😢 But they had a mission and that was to defend the castle.

Vhagar did screech when she got her belly scrapped. It's not clear how damaged Vhagar was from that fight but I agree it didn't seem too bad. I think Rhaenys going back to fight and injure Vhagar the first time made sense. Meleys was agile enough to make Vhagar take the fall and she flew away. The second turn around was more questionable. I think Vhagar was likely injured to some extent, which is why it made sense for her to do the tried-and-true sneak attack again. The best reasoning I can think of, was that Meleys was heavily injured from altercation, possibly unable to fight for the rest of the war if she returned. But Vhagar was also injured and possibly winded from the fall, she might have had the immediate advantage but worse long term consequences/injuries. The sneak attack negated that advantage, and thus she lost. Also interesting note - After the first altercation, Rhaenys looks back and tells Meleys to attack. The second time, it's actually Meleys looking back before they turned around. I took it to mean Meleys was telling Rhaenys they needed to finish the fight and she was prepared. Breaks my heart. This is just my speculation, haven't read the books and from what I heard, the books say Meleys may have stood a chance against Vhagar but had to fight Sunfyre and Vhagar at the same time. Which is different from what we see here anyway. I think Rhaenys might suffer from too much honor, like Ned. She didn't kill the Greens because it wasn't her war to start, and she kept going back to the battle because that was her charge. RIP Rhaenys and Meleys 😭 She was a boss, especially from the S2 I grew to love her. Sad she couldn't be Rhaenyra's Hand.

RHAENYS WAS A LEGEND, took out a dragon, destroyed cole’s army, and made vhagar fall as well. RIP Rhaenys a Meleys, she would’ve been a better queen than any of them

Tbh the way i see it, Rhaenys was both making amends in a way because she didn’t burn them when she had the chance and she kinda said i'll die trying to take at least one dragon but also Meleys is the strongest dragon the blacks have “so far” so i think she thought she could take on Vhagar and she could’ve tbh if Meleys wasn’t injured or at least injure Vhagar. Because i think Rhaenys knew if it’s not her someone else will have to fight Vhagar later so getting Vhagar injured can make a difference. But also even in the book despite the changes Rhaenys didn’t flee even when she has the chance, and I genuinely think Rhaenys was tired and she lost both of her children and i think she knew she wasn’t going back as soon Vhagar entered the fight because Meleys was messed up so who knows if she would get back safely with Vhagar following her. I think it can be explained in a lot of ways and that’s how i see it.

I’ve been waiting all day for your reaction to this ep. This ep was just chaos 🔥🥲RIP to the red queen meyles and the queen who should have been rhaenys Targaryen

thank you for making that point about Coles skill

I knew what would happen yet I'm still shocked 😭

She had a small chance to end the war now and spare more senseless death and she risked her life for it