For those of those that might cry about *"But all m1 abrams models are 82 degrees and 1 extra degree completely changes everything!"* I pixel measured every flat image I could and I always got 83 degrees while i got 82 degrees on the previous abrams version. It would be logical for it to be 83 degrees on a new model because that one degree makes a huge difference and the engineers with simulation software know this.

@reacteddesert7187

Жыл бұрын

Was it UFP always 50mm? I thought the OG models had like 38mm did they change it?

@ravenkk4816

Жыл бұрын

How do you know the Amor composition?

@reacteddesert7187

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenkk4816 its pretty easy to find out the Thickness of plates but its harder to find the actual materials used if at all

@simulationbros

Жыл бұрын

@@reacteddesert7187 I think after m1a2 it was upgraded to 50mm

@simulationbros

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenkk4816 The video of the tank has an open hatch and you could pixel measure it.

Don't worry, the driver only turns red, not black or dead

@marco8414

Жыл бұрын

Looks like an orange drive to me, or at least an orange driver if I was shooting at the enemy.

@boyteebah3794

Жыл бұрын

but what if the driver is african-american?

@stolek6908

Жыл бұрын

Just push + button and revive red mothderfaker

@efekanuyguner6513

Жыл бұрын

@@boyteebah3794 war thunder meme bruh

@gagida1829

Жыл бұрын

​@@efekanuyguner6513 i think he knew

Driver did a dental surgery speedrun

@spongeboss_richpants

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he got a world record

@Nottotti-eg9nf

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure his brains are blown out-

@Fesko-ly1wr

Жыл бұрын

Wash off makeup speedrun at the same time😲😲😲

@abas656thegodemperor9

4 ай бұрын

he got a free concussion, so lucky

@timmy6890

Ай бұрын

Lol

Im a little on the fence about this simulation. The drivers hatch sticking out like that and being nothing but a flat plate with a bevel at the edges seems a little oversimplified. The vision blocks are missing in this simulation too. Im curious how those would affect the round as it glances over the plate and things like spalling ont he inside, since the instruments would be in the way and there would likely also be spall liner on the inside

@slice1419

Жыл бұрын

Im on the fence about this whole thing since we know nothing about this tank obviously

@warthunderenjoyer

Жыл бұрын

Like the previous guy just said, we don't know shit so this could very well be inaccurate and most likely is to an extent at least

@xAlexTobiasxB

Жыл бұрын

Dude this entire "simulation" is total nonsense, even the angle of the plate is wrong, this doesn't even look like 83°. This channel is known for making bs content, just look at his other videos, it's a shitpost channel

@PAUL-ESNEED

Жыл бұрын

​@@warthunderenjoyer Yeah there's extra magic physics-defying armor on that UFP that we don't know about

@aleksanderii2106

2 ай бұрын

За них может снаряд зацепиться и всë, капут

hey, it would be cool to see the same render but with the turret modeled, to see what damage the round will do to the turret after ricoshetting

@looke3392

3 ай бұрын

Yeah not much lol

@arilavanderboom4990

4 күн бұрын

​@@looke3392its the main problem with the abrams their turret neck kinda exposed and something like trap shot sometimes happen in test

I don't see any kind of deformation on the hull where the apfsds hit, the sims done by sy and extreme seemed more sophisticated.

@simulationbros

Жыл бұрын

That's because they use full licenses and can make super dense meshes, but even SY with a 83 degree angle got a similar reflection with basically a scratch.

@nikola12nis

Жыл бұрын

@@simulationbros You can just pirate a full version, I don't see why you are limiting yourself like that.

@BladezAndrew

Жыл бұрын

Copium "extreme is more sophisticated, a Pzgr. 39 indeed totally can't pen a M4A2 Sherman from the front. He has to have the most sophisticated simulations"

@BladezAndrew

Жыл бұрын

i haven't checked his channel since that video.... He actually revisited it...... and has it that even the 88 doesn't pen..... bro... lmao

@ratatatatata5290

Жыл бұрын

@@BladezAndrewangry wehraboo Jesus. Go cry about your nazi tanks historical accuracy somwhere else

Tips for any t-90 driver:always target the turret ring since is penetrable and spotted easily

@ostiariusalpha

Жыл бұрын

Also assuming said T-90 got the drop on them, and didn't get sniped from over the horizon by the AbramsX.

@Max_Da_G

Жыл бұрын

Tank drivers had been taught that for decades. It's not just an Abrams and T-90 thing.

@Max_Da_G

Жыл бұрын

@@ostiariusalpha lol yea good luck.

@ostiariusalpha

Жыл бұрын

@@Max_Da_G Lucky for who?

@Max_Da_G

Жыл бұрын

@@ostiariusalpha Good luck to abrams sniping from "over the horizon". Fools like you, for all the shitton of evidence that tanks don't really fight like that, still talk shit about "my tank will snipe your tank". That isn't gonna happen because before it can even attempt such a thing one of them will be obliterated by artillery before they get into such a scenario in 99% of situations.

The tungsten rod just ricocheted without leaving a trace? What is this tank made of? Vibranium?

@ironic8340

Жыл бұрын

No, Freedomium apparently 🥴

@fallu6224

Жыл бұрын

No, it's called basic physics

@ThatGuyOrby

Жыл бұрын

It's called physics. APFSDS is incredibly thin and hard by design, if it meets a surface too sloped for it to bite into it almost immediately plasticizes and breaks apart essentially becoming a non-threat to an armored surface leaving minimal damage.

@azanudniy

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGuyOrby this one looks more realistic kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ypdpus2JYdzdoM4.html

@eliasziad7864

Жыл бұрын

Trumpium.

if youre gonna move everyone into the hull, logic would dictate reduce armor in the turret and add more protection in the hull, so it makes sense

@a_bad_channel

3 ай бұрын

i mean like if someone breaks the turret you cant really do much now.

@Godsjudgement12

3 ай бұрын

@@a_bad_channel but the crew is alive, and thats the most important thing

@a_bad_channel

3 ай бұрын

@@Godsjudgement12 yea true, an experienced crew is irreplaceable

Since we know nothing about the Abrams-X, it’s hard to say how effective it is. But, with the current Abrams SEP V3, it seems the upper front armor is roughly 35-40mm thick, which is pretty shit. If any tank had even the slightest bit of elevation advantage against that Abrams, a modern HEAT shell would penetrate right through it, such as the 3BK29M, with it’s maximum 800mm penetration, depending on the angle. That’s probably one of the major downfalls of the Abrams.

@ConstantineJoseph

5 ай бұрын

Abrams are not meant to fight head on in mass numbers which is what the Russian doctrine is. The Abrams doctrine is always hull down. That is where the turret shows its capability in dishing out fire with hide and fire tactics. Using Commanders CITV, like a submarine it surfaces for a short moment to unleash depleted uranium at up to 4km. Abrams that go out into the open would have air support and infantry scouts already in the front lines engaging to take away the threat of getting focus fire on the moving tanks

@abas656thegodemperor9

4 ай бұрын

the UFP probably has gotten some composites instead of being RHA,which would increase the protection, although if it hasnt gotten upgraded, then i absolutely agree.

@Austin-cx2xe

3 ай бұрын

There's zero way of actually knowing how thick not only the upper front plate is but any armor on the tank besides the physical measurements taken on the older models, you and everyone defiantly do not know anything about the SEP V3. Like seriously, where are you getting this information? You must also think that all the figures that Russia publishes for their armor and penetration for projectiles is accurate, don't you? Even though the Soviets built tanks half the weight of the Abrams but apparently manage to build better armor? Unless the manufactor provides physcial tests showing penetration or anything else, *it is all claims made by companies that profit from inflating their weapon capabilities, please don't be so damn naive.*

Congratulations to the author, this clip has completely fulfilled its role. Although it's better to have a keyboard war than a radioactive wasteland of a real encounter.

hmmm, how bout 2A82 125mm with 3BM60? it could does much more damage (and penetration)

@carkawalakhatulistiwa

Жыл бұрын

2A83 use 3BM69 not 3BM60.

@nhatpham2206

Жыл бұрын

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa oh, I didn't know that, tks

@KashtanGreg

Жыл бұрын

2A83 is 152mm gun

@nhatpham2206

Жыл бұрын

@@KashtanGreg mistype

@nikenubwot5199

3 ай бұрын

Для нерусских 3БМ69 не производится и по сути не существует как и 2А83 так как это единичные экземпляры для испытаний, которые прошли уже 35 лет назад,.

Представьте что там с башней… А также неверно выставлен угол, снаряд летит параболически, а не прямо

@ashed6215

Жыл бұрын

С учетом скорости полета БОПСов, такая парабола там минимизирована. К тому, же, угол верхней лобовой детали достаточно острый, чтобы даже в таком случае был рикошет. Но, как говорится, стреляй под башню/нижнюю лобовую деталь. И ГГ.

@BaLaMuTt89

5 ай бұрын

Угол выставлен для практически идеальных условий. В реальном бою угол встречи лома и ВЛД однозначно будет другим из-за неровностей местности. Например если мало ли абрамса подловят на спуске с возвышенности там вообще лом его навылет через днище прошибёт вместе с мехводом.

Ye, would be surprising if the people who designed it weren't planning to have a similar thing as the original Abrams where the upper plate is there to shatter apfsds rounds. Hatch should be changed tho, it's basically flat with the hull in any clip u see.

Great, with the new design, all 3 crews now sit at the front where the weak spot is.

@user-iq6gp8qo8b

Ай бұрын

I dont even have a college degree and realize how DUMB that design choice is unless they up-armor the front to the same level as the Glacius, which they cant.

What if you stuck a 120 mm HE there?

Can you try it with Svinets-2? It should pen because the critical angle isn’t effected as much as Mango

@eliasziad7864

Жыл бұрын

Definitely penetrates.

Crazy! This time the front plate remained unscathed, yet the driver was killed by the hatch spall. The front needs an extra spall shield!

The remaining part of the projectile could potentially continue Up into the bottom of the turret front or worse, the ring

@aj41926

Жыл бұрын

*turret ring. Stupid autocorrect

@burnttoaster6313

Жыл бұрын

Someone been playing too much war thunder

@PyroFTB

Жыл бұрын

​@Burnt Toaster yeah lol, apfsds would not be able to pen the turret ring after getting shattered

I feel like this could be easily avoided by having a small extension added to the armor just in front of the driver's hatch. It would be a ramp that is flush with the UFP at its farthest from the driver and flush with the top of the hatch when it meets the hatch. This might increase the chance of a round penetrating this special additional portion itself but I still think it would be angled enough to avoid this. Alternatively, the designers could just make the portion of the UFP that is adjacent to the hatch a flat 90 degrees to absolutely minimize the weakness of the hatch. I don't think it would be too hard to move the driver slightly lower or have him recline a bit more to accommodate this change. The turret ring would be just a tad more exposed from the front though.

@user-iq6gp8qo8b

Ай бұрын

YES ! That's what Ive been saying ! Why don't they just add a slightly angled, but mostly vertical wedge of armor about half a food high that sticks out from the tank on horizontal Pylons ? It could be about 1.5-2 feet in front of the front part of the tank, and would give some distance to lessen the impact before it hits the drivers area and maybe even deflect most of the blast upwards

@user-iq6gp8qo8b

Ай бұрын

Now the Abrams X is gonna have all Crew in the weak frontal compartment, which is dumb. If anything it should be in the back in an armored "bathtub" like the Israeli tank. Engine in the front

@user-iq6gp8qo8b

Ай бұрын

And them having 4 crew per tank is absurd. That means if the tank is destroyed you lose 1/4 more many personnel as needed. They should only have a Driver, Commander and Gunner.

@user-iq6gp8qo8b

Ай бұрын

With a three man crew they can use the extra personnel to remotely man drone support and they can have support drones and remote operating light vehicle that have stand-alone APS that goes with the tank or ahead of it

There’s still a shot trap in the turret ring but at least there’s no one inside to harm in the AbramsX.

@ireallycant4416

Жыл бұрын

The pen literally shattered no trap shot

@PyroFTB

Жыл бұрын

APFSDS shatters, it's not a ricochet

@BARelement

10 ай бұрын

@@ireallycant4416The splinters are still dangerous..

@abas656thegodemperor9

4 ай бұрын

they are probably gonna be moving too slow to damage anything inside, but sights might get damaged​@@BARelement

Could you try some old projectile like the is 7 130 mm to this plate

3бм-60 и т-90м* должны быть, т-90м уже давно серийный

@user-ml7sb5nz2g

Жыл бұрын

Более пробивной 3-БМ59 из урана

@Fulcrum683

Жыл бұрын

Меня другое больше прикалывает) Почему люди считают что в влд по таким диким углом кто то будет вообще стрелять?)) Там БМ8 из Д10Т2С в погон башни достаточно будет))) Конструкция с момента создания не менялась), А главное этих симуляций с попаданием именно в ВЛД куча....

@Max_Da_G

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ml7sb5nz2g Da dazhe 42 probyot etu VLD. To chto tut snaryad rikoshetit - huynya.

@user-bc2xc2vb9m

Жыл бұрын

@@Fulcrum683 потому что реальность - не тундра

@Fulcrum683

Жыл бұрын

@@user-bc2xc2vb9m ага действительно какая тут реальность он еще даже на свет не появился но ему уже пророчат что он будет неубиваемым через различные интернет ресурсы.... А Т-55 есть и по сей день и очень много.

Quick answer: Yes. AbramsX using a modified M1 hull will not suddenly have more armour on the upper plate, especially as it's just a tech demonstrator. And it has been proven in a different simulation how 3BM42, let alone 3BM60, can easily penetrate the shatter plate.

@localdrugseller6431

4 ай бұрын

Pictures prove otherwise. Abrams variants further than M1A1 has 50mm of UFP armor contrary to popular belief. Which was spread by war thunder.

@HSSdk

4 ай бұрын

@@localdrugseller6431 This is false, it has been disproven time and time again, even according to active M1A2 crewmen.

This is a rather older round. 3BM60/59 may have different impacts. One thing for sure is that the driver is a goner. The chest caved in and a large portion of shrapnel hit his face and likely eyes. That tank isn't going anywhere anytime soon. If this is what a round that is effectively a modified mango round can do imagine what a more modern one could do.

@rebelliousfew

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.. imagine what the 3BK29M would do.

I am pretty certain that the front plate of the Abrams X isn't just RHA, as depicted here. Hell, even us Germans got wise and the Leopard 2 A6 and up have much improved additional composite armor protection across the front plate. Not to forget the anti-spall liner that is certain to be there.

@lewildknight9864

4 ай бұрын

it actually is a 38mm thick plate of RHA (steel), and so far there is no proof that Abrams tanks are equipped with spall liners

Can you do french 47mm sa 37 vs t34 front hull at 500m ?

So the AbramsX removed the spall liners?

please do more videos about crew members inside!

So the driver's face became jello ?

Im geuninely curious to see if the hull doesnt get up armored, or atleast like an armored crew capsule or spall liners get added to the hull

It always amazed me (in a bad way) that they made upper plate so thin. Hide in defilades or be on high ground is the main tactic for this tank?

Yikes the spalls be peppering the driver's face like bukkake

Why 3BM-42 when for t 90A 3BM60 is recomended for targets with combine armor?

I wonder when they would finally fix the weak spots on Abrams.

@rebelliousfew

Жыл бұрын

Who knows, honestly. Any modern HEAT shell could easily penetrate the top, frontal armor and even the side armor. Side skirts are very thin steel plates, with the side armor being made of simple, rolled steel. Side shots would kill the Abrams pretty quick, or at least disable it.

@abas656thegodemperor9

4 ай бұрын

to be honest, ALL tanks need upgrades,the modern battlefield isnt just who has the gun with more penetrating power. sights, range, APS, protection against drones,and more are all things that current fielded tanks need to be relevant (And APS systems like trophy or arena dont count,as far as we know they could both be useless)

I like your Videos. Thank you for investing your free time and accepting a higher electricity bill. I have recently started doing some simple simulations for myself and just for fun. Since you are also using the student version, I have a question. In my video recordings the fine red particles are not visible, only when the animation stopped at a frame. When the animation runs, these particles are no longer visible. Is there a setting with which the particles can be displayed?

@stanislaw007

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I also would like to know.

@simulationbros

Жыл бұрын

are you in the discord?

Isn't supposed that a t90A would use at least more modern APFSDS like Svinets. And iven Svinets 1 and 2 because as far as I'm aware the t90A uses the 2a46-m4 canon

@jPlanerv2

Жыл бұрын

They dont use them in Ukraine so mango is fair choice

@eugenkarov6188

Жыл бұрын

@@jPlanerv2 смотря во что стрелять, в Х не будут из пневматики стрелять возьмут ломы длинные, не получится, возьмут 152 фугас или бетонобой, не получится, с дрона кумулятивную гранату на крышу положат, ка 52 вихрь пришлёт, и это при условии стоять лбом к противнику как на счёт курсовых углов? борт? в стимуляции держит, а практика покажет.

@ser43_OLDC

Жыл бұрын

@@jPlanerv2 they aren't using Svinets because Mango and Vant with ~550mm and Lekado with ~650 are more than enough for early t72 and any t64 Apart we a re talking about an Abrams X. Is like we put an m1a2 sev with m829 against a t14

@jPlanerv2

Жыл бұрын

​@@ser43_OLDC Abrams x is just technology demonstrator not actual tank and its hull upper plate is the same as on other M1a2s so using the most common AT shell for 125mm is fair in this sim.

@joeo2533

Жыл бұрын

Why would they use anything more modern than mango if it does a good job on anything Ukraine has had thus far? Imagine the stupidity of using up all the overpowered newer munitions only for newer enemy tanks to enter the battlefield.

Eh he just got a little tickle he good

Wouldnt this still be a shot trap?

I know its popular round - Mango but given its from the 80s and is now almost 30 years old, I would expect a bit more modern rounds to be fired at M1.

@EpicThe112

Жыл бұрын

If you want to know what it is then 3BM60 in combat in the Ukrainian War and 1990s 3BM46

@StandingHereI

Жыл бұрын

it's not so important, Abrams is conditionally invulnerable from the front, but any hit in what is not the front is a one hundred percent success

@shum5078

Жыл бұрын

@@StandingHereI любой танк уязвим с фронта

@StandingHereI

Жыл бұрын

@@shum5078 не пон

@shum5078

Жыл бұрын

@@StandingHereI возможно, кривость переводчика, которым я пользуюсь, дала о себе знать. Ты сказал что абрамс "условно не уязвим с фронта", я написал что нет неуязвимых машин, даже с фронта.

that driver really got peppered hard

I'm curious what the remnants of the projectile would do To the underside of the turret. Probably nothing, but I would still be curious to see

That 3BM42 is fucking giant, it's longer than the torso of the driver!

in Ukraine they have started to use simple drones with RPG 7 attached to belly. wonder what an arial attack would do to drivers plate

@burningsinner1132

Жыл бұрын

These drones are not used "against plate". It's too hard to use them this way, you roughly steer them into the tank, trying any side that isn't a front. So the VALID simulation would be 15-35 degree angle on hull/turret side and rear. They also use WW2 era PTAB 2.5-1.5 anti-tank HEAT bombs. Back in the days, plane would drop a batches of 192 roughly over the convoy. Quad drones allow to drop these more or less precisely against stationary targets. These require 87-90 degrees tests against roofs. Also, it's kinda funny how military industrial complex kept chugging the very expensive toys anywhere from $2500 to $85000 while top keks are delivered by wish-grade kit taped to printed coat hangers (Gets even funnier with lancet drones - it's literally a stronger fan jammed into a piece of square vent with a mount for camera knob, with two explosive charges (Essentially it's trench digging charge being cut in two pieces: Initial shaped one goes to the front and heavy finisher is in the back) spray foamed together.

and also the 3bm 42 is made from 2 pieces of Tungsten core. although the first core turns up the second core will go down

@simulationbros

Жыл бұрын

Not 3bm 42M

Do keep in mind that tanks have spall liners

3bm42 mango is from the '80s, we cannot expect it to pen a tank that has not even been put on mass production in 2023

i think that with the kevlar lining the crew in the hull really won't be hurt

@ratatatatata5290

Жыл бұрын

Hot molten metal traveling at god knows how much faster than a bullet. I’m genuinely curious how thick these spall liners have to be to stop this shit.

@JohnSmith-yc6uv

Жыл бұрын

@@ratatatatata5290 Kevlar has a pretty high heat resistance, and shrapnel is WWWAAAYYY easier to stop than bullets.

Meanwhile if it on War Thunder : Crew Knock Down Credit: SovietStronger (T-90A)

The solution to this invincible upper front : 105mm HESH.

@Santander_wows

Жыл бұрын

What about 183mm. Hesh

@mrregik

Жыл бұрын

​@@Santander_wowsFV215b(183) one shot - one kill.

But what about the turret bearing?

I have a problem with all those simulations. All the specific parameters of modern armour and projectiles are classified - how can you even approximate them in your simulations? Also, all those projectiles have a very flat trajectory, which indicates point blank range - that isn’t very realistic in modern combat.

Will it better if they add jacket to that apfds

Russia don’t use 3bm42. Only 3bm60 and newer modifications.

So the hatch is now the problem?

No spall liner?

Even if this is an old Mango, looks strange that it bounced like that. Should have dented the surface, like simulations with current Abrams show (many times the projectile goes trough if it is the thin plate version)

They should take inspiration from thr BMP-1, adding ridges to the upper front plate would deflect off the round so it doesnt hit the drivers hatch, also im preety sure the upper front plate isnt just completely indestructible.

@maksimer6612

Күн бұрын

Я думаю что это передовое влд ноу Хау от люка мехаода т 34-76 War Thunder!

the shell looks like it's a ball with a trail and the ball is the tip of the shell

The question is can it after ricochet pen turret ring ?

@Phantom-bh5ru

Жыл бұрын

100% that turret is now jammed and inoperable

@PvpSniper656

Жыл бұрын

@@Phantom-bh5ru probably

What? Your telling me this DEMONSTRATION vehicle might not be combat ready? Who could've fucking guessed?!

in the real video you can perfectly see that it passes directly through

Can you make 3BM59 Svinetz-1 (740 mm DU at 1750 m/s) vs the frontal underside of the hull a M1A2?

Ну таких сказок я еще не видел Единственное что такое возможно только при условии что эта плита сделана из урана или вольфрама и то не ясно как снаряд из такого же материала может так изгибаться не прорезая метал острием и кинетической энергией А так куда он девается в конце ведь при таком рикошете как тут у него все еще огромнейшая кинетика, которую он должен обо что-то гасить

into a battle thats a good shoot , driver out , the tank is inmobile for a time

Can strumtiger heat pen it ?

Is this the Abrams?

А если фугас 152мм?

DM23? that not standard 25mm thin better more 32mm and overmatched ammonition 50mm+ not be or will be?

@berserkguts4185

3 ай бұрын

yep 39mm armor is nothing this idiot calculating 82 degrees will be add +10x greater =39x10=390mm this is bullshit

To be fair you could use 3VBM23 or Vacuum shots

A simulation that has nothing to do with reality))

There isen't that kind of deflection, to even Mango would carve in before possibly change trajectory. So that wouldn't work like that. I guess some material propertys on both objects aren't sufficent or lacking at all. Weird that still the driver dies in that scenario. But T-90A is considered and able to use 3BM60 Svinetz, which is a way more powerfull kinetic projectile.

The fact is that the APFSDS will not hit the tank at 0* angle…

@92HazelMocha

Жыл бұрын

Came here to say this. The T90 is not that short, the M1 is not that tall, and there's no arc so this takes place at point blank range? In a realistic scenario, either the T90 is shooting down into the plate or from range where it's arcing down into the plate. It's physically impossible for a round from a T90 to impact the way its depicted here.

IT SEEMS WE MISSED

This is an old type of ammunition

RIP Driver.

What I can't understand in many of these modern tanks like t90, leopard2a6 or merkava Is their turret. Shouldn't they have only a steep angle armour on the top of the turret? Why they have It also on the bottom part? In this case a projectile.could bounce and enter from the top of the hull (It was the same problem earlier versions of panther tank had in ww2)

@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818

11 ай бұрын

No modern APFSDS shatters after deflecting off very steep armor, thus it doesn't have any ability to bounce down into thinner armor unlike older AP shells.

But would that slope help against a HE shell?

@kajetus0688

Жыл бұрын

With enough slope HE Shell can bounce

@Yriron

Жыл бұрын

@@kajetus0688 But what if it hit that black circle(the driver hatch i assume)?

Maybe driver will be alive(MAYBE) but all projectiles will go in tower, and it will kinda hurt tank

Imagine of the army saw this video😂 they should totally made the hatch thicker😂

@MultiNike79

Жыл бұрын

Any tank is easier to destroy than its designers think.

Would it have a Kevlar liner?

@simulationbros

Жыл бұрын

Even if it did it was the hatch that caused fatal shrapnel.

@elliotsmith102

Жыл бұрын

@@simulationbros I’m wondering if hatch itself would be lined, you’d think it would be.

So, what about 3BM60

В реале снаряд бы пробил броню Абрамса

What’s a little spalling among friends?

Why not 3bm 60

I do not understand why they haven’t dealt with the upper plate

All fun and good Until a Shape chrage hit the plate with shoulder fuse that heat jet wont care about any angle it just cares about the thickness in terms of chemical protection and i cann tell you a simple steel plate wont have a good chemical protection even angled like that maybe its 300mm but most heat rounds have way over that

Wait doesn't it ricochet straight into the turret ring or something?

@peytonrobinson1067

11 ай бұрын

Yes, but you can see in the simulation by the time it gets there it's already in small fragments going a fraction of the original velocity. If the round is already that damaged it's damage to armor of the turret ring will be negligible.

It is, at least for HE rounds UPD Plus 3BM42 is not the best example

Серьёзно?))) броня просто проломиться под воздействием лома, часть конечно отрекошетит, но пролом будет, и пролом сильный)))

1) deflected APFSDS will not disappear. Instead it will damage or jam M1's turret ring. 2) HE-Frag round for 125-mm guns. While much less sophisticated compared to HE-MPAT M1A2 uses, russian 125-mm Frag is just artillery shell with powerful explosive. The only m1a2's frontal detail vulnerable to HE shells is exactly the drivers slope. In simulations i've seen it was close to second worst thing for M1A2

@MultiNike79

Жыл бұрын

The use of German and American tanks in the invasion of Syria and Yemen showed that they are more vulnerable than Russian ones. Very weak side projections and unprotected projectiles make them vulnerable in a war where the defenders are not completely overwhelmed by the air, as in Iraq. The public loves the cliche about throwing a tower, but in the conditions of a similar defeat, any tank will be bad. Also, Western tanks are effective when they drive forward and fire anti-tank rounds, which is not possible in modern warfare. And if they carry out ambush missions with land mines, it suddenly turns out that Russian tanks have shells hidden below and behind the armor, while Western ones do not.

@MultiNike79

Жыл бұрын

It can also be noted that Russian tanks are about three times as long-range, so if there is a correction from a drone, it will shoot any Western tank long before it enters the danger zone.

ОК, Abrams for T90a, is a like terminator for Kyle Reese. You have to find that THAT point, my young padawan.

bro I think u should use BM60 or BM59 to have a more accurate simulation

Is projectile tip made of tungsten alloy?

@Max_Da_G

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Which is why I'm wondering how did this simulation made the round glance off.

@ukuskota4106

Жыл бұрын

@@Max_Da_G metoo

@abas656thegodemperor9

4 ай бұрын

​@@Max_Da_Gbecause they didnt angle it properly,the shell should be going at an arc, therefore decreasing the effective thickness of the plate

А если выстрелить 152 мм снарядом, правило трёх калибров будет работать?

@planetamag

Жыл бұрын

это правило выдумка создателей WoT . Мста-с стреляла по крыше автомобиля и все в порядке .

Yet i don't see how the Army's gonna bring back the M60s series

The UFP weak spot is gone but not with driver Port

а как можно просчитать модель бронепробития танка, которого ещё не существует?

@Gladiusspb

Жыл бұрын

Можно. Когда очень хочется, то можно.

Ты получше снаряд не пробовал брать?

Не хера себе, это что за вселенская броня? Из воздуха?