I’ve been getting a lot of comments that I’m incorrect with my measurements at around 1:46 when I say 3 kilometers. 3 kilometers is 3000 m which is 1.86 miles which is correct so I don’t know why there’s so much confusion on the measurements I’m stating in the video. However at 2:50 I did mean to say 2500 m and not kilometers.

@zarthemad8386

Жыл бұрын

i see that aim bot....

@adspie

Жыл бұрын

why the reticle is having a Parkinson's ???? is that a bug from Gaijin!?!?!?!

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

@@zarthemad8386 it’s called Gaijin’s reply system

@fledthehunter5293

Жыл бұрын

@@adspie it's probably because the tank is moving, so it's shaking like that because Gaijin.

@roelej

Жыл бұрын

Remember that people thought there was more burger in a quater pounder than a third pounder.

I feel like the Abrams might have had better luck with HEAT - part of the issue with balancing Maus is that it's no good against post-war HEAT-slingers.

@jebediahkerman3826

Жыл бұрын

M829A2 APFSDS of abrams has more pen that M830 HEAT shell.

@calvinwallace2937

Жыл бұрын

@@jebediahkerman3826 The M830 still goes through 480mm of armour - twice as much as the Maus has on its hull. I think it would probably be more consistent at messing up the crew and other things inside the tank than just punching a hole through it would.

@llthk138

Жыл бұрын

@@calvinwallace2937 apfsds spalls more than a heat shell because it travels inside the tank making spall when the apfsds hits an armour plate or module while heat only creates a single jet that can be caught by magic fuel tanks. Apfsds is superior than heat unless its an extremely long range engagement where apfsds has traveled so far it cant pen a maus but wt dosent have big enough maps for that

@BARelement

Жыл бұрын

@@jebediahkerman3826The M830 can pen at angles the APFSDS can’t in game. In real life it wouldn’t be bouncing as much as it does in game. But in game the HEATFS would have more post pen damage, and pen at more insane angles.

@BARelement

Жыл бұрын

@@llthk138HEATFS has higher dmg multipliers. It’s not 105 HEATFS but yeah depends.

Realistically, in a tank battle, if your tank is penetrated there is like a 95% chance your crew is bailing out regardless of how bad the internal damage actually is. This was especially true with how much worse most of the German tank crews were towards the end of the war due to attrition. This is why heavy tanks died after WW2. One penetration and all the effort that went into manufacturing the behemoth went to waste. When APDS and later APFSDS were developed, armor penetration became so effective on guns that could be mounted on a medium chassis that massive tanks were made redundant. Even tanks that weren't penetrated had crews bail out, like Tigers that had all their optics destroyed

@Mcree114

9 ай бұрын

Pretty much why Battleships fell out of favor. Anti-ship missile warfare over the horizon that far outranged big battleship cannons, far more accurate, and vastly superior armor penetration, not to mention carriers with entire airwings that carry anti-ship missiles. Heavy and thick belt armor as well as massive cannons became obsolete to lighter faster missile cruisers and carriers.

@JustaRandomGuy890

4 ай бұрын

Heavy tanks died because technology improved and the benefits of it compared to mediums were getting less and less

@roachwerks3043

Ай бұрын

@@Mcree114you know what’s funny because of that. Modern ships would have a decently hard time sinking like an iowa class battleship. They aren’t designed to penetrate that belt armor anymore

@thiseagleguy

10 күн бұрын

​@@roachwerks3043They'll just use anti ship missiles? Or do classic bombings on the ships

"The abrams is able to hit a target accurately from 3 meters away. " 3:41

@ok-jl7qo

11 ай бұрын

avg americans knowledge on the metric system

@Astrogamezz

10 ай бұрын

@@ok-jl7qoLOL

@Eva-wo8zq

8 ай бұрын

Thats not wrong actually

@MakeYourVision

8 ай бұрын

"WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER?!"

@Phoenix1.s

7 ай бұрын

@@ok-jl7qo metric system this metric system that, brother show me a system where someone asked

Muffin is a true amarican 🦅 Buuuuut he mess up between meters and kilometers, Yes an Abrams can shot up to 3 meters, but what he want to say was 3 kilometers (3000 meters)

@j.h6419

Жыл бұрын

dont forget the 2900 kilommeters between abrams and maus (2:50) 😂

@LeroxYT

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderWithMuffin the right maus at 0:12 seems more like the mauerbrecher, from wot lmao And yes mauerbrecher was its name, and it had a prototyp, it was the maus but the tower at the front, not the back

@slavking992

Жыл бұрын

Imperial and metric, the eternal struggle. Join the dark side already😂

@sinisterisrandom8537

Жыл бұрын

​@@slavking992 Yep and the funny thing is the imperial system we use in the US isn't even purely imperial it has metric integrated in certain parts.

@VunderGuy

Жыл бұрын

We don't use imperial. We use US customary, because our take on Imperial actually does differ a little bit from Imperial. And no, sorry. It's a fixture that's here to stay forever, though we might consider it if all the smelly loser countries that use the decimal comma and thousands separator point decide to stop being smelly losers that are utter laughing stocks even amongst metricese speaking nations.

Also note too, in real life situations, most single-pen events are enough to make the tank crew bail. They arent going to stay in a tank if the driver and gunner get plastered, and the tranny is metal shavings. So i dont think it would have mattered as much.

@BARelement

Жыл бұрын

The trans is just kaput

@MaxMTTpm

6 ай бұрын

Very specific way of giving the transmission a nickname.

Germany suffers, gaijin pls move maus to 5.7

@_Johnny_13

Жыл бұрын

I've been telling them since maus entered the game but the gaijin snail demands suffering

@garrettmiller1355

Жыл бұрын

Any tank with heat (licks jaws): looks like meat is back on the menu boys

@Filo181.

Жыл бұрын

Is this a joke or are you serius?

@Timmytheman.

Жыл бұрын

​@@Filo181. I think it's a joke

@Prisoner4245

Жыл бұрын

REAL😭😭😭😭😭

Afterlife: Maus: who are you T - 72: I was going to ask you the same question

One thing that really peeved me was that in the first battle the abrams could have used commander sight to fire and peek over the hill line while remaining covered. Though, he could have been using commander sights and the match replay wasn't displaying it

@stevenortiz9008

Жыл бұрын

Also ISS

Would be really funny to see a noob player (maybe even someone who’s never played the game before) in a top tier MBT fight a bunch of experienced players playing reserve tanks

@catt0215

Жыл бұрын

Considering how bt5’s troll at top tier, it would be a massacre 😂

@news_internationale2035

Жыл бұрын

​@@catt0215 Some of the AA vehicles are brutal too.

@catt0215

Жыл бұрын

@@news_internationale2035 fr

@texasthib2029

Жыл бұрын

It’s not funny to see play literally any top tier game right now it’s full of sub level 10 retards who purchased the m1a1 aim and numerous t80s that spawn once and leave when they’re inevitably blown to shit

I would love to see a horde of 2C's take on a Maus or two.

@scottkesselman5138

Жыл бұрын

Literally cannot damage a maus

@jackschoonover6418

Жыл бұрын

@@scottkesselman5138 sir a .50 cal can kill a maus do not even claim a 2c cant damage it

@mr9263

Жыл бұрын

I remember that the 2c was so op that it could one shot a maus

@DravaekLikesCake

Жыл бұрын

@@jackschoonover6418 the only way a .50 is able to kill a maus by shooting right down the barrel to damage the breach and possibly kill a crew member. no where else can the .50 pen the maus as the the penetration on the .50 in WT is about 36mm's and the maus has at least 100mm's to 200mm's of armor all around. so please if you don't know what you're talking about shut up

@galiciatheguy4002

2 ай бұрын

​@@scottkesselman5138 the one with the 155m? Overpressure.

I like that you say increase or decrease the amount of Abrahams when there's only one.

9:33 I am sure he angled today. Dollar is very proud.

Do you think you could do some more overhead footage for the next one? I like the close up action but some more views of the overall battle would be cool since that's a perspective you don't get to see very often as a player.

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ll try to do more in the ones to come after the next vid that comes out since I already recorded the footage and a major game update doesn’t let me go back to record more

Thx for making this, I've been curious for a year thinking about this match

The problem with this sim is that the Abrams was never designed to hold a line. It was designed to punch through them. High speed, rapid firing engagements. It's the modern take on the panzer 3 and panzer 4's. Yes it is designed to take hits from RPG type projectiles but never to get hull down or sidescrape a building.

@QLEK99

Жыл бұрын

I feel The M1A2 turret front would be impenetrable by the MAUS gun (especially with lack of apdfs) from a normal distance.

@syrez156

Жыл бұрын

It is also designed for hulldown, why would it not be designed for hulldown? all the crews are on the turret for maximum protection, along with a 9 or 10 degrees of depression, and a very thick amount of turret armor. That said, most tanks are designed like that because they are also designed for hulldown if they have to hold a line. The high speed of abrams also lets it take a position and hold the line, and if needed to retreat or push, it can do what needs to be done. It's not singlehandedly designed to punch through enemy defense line.

@BARelement

Жыл бұрын

The Abrams was designed to do all the roles. So what you said is factually incorrect. If what you said was true it would no longer be an “MBT”. But a “Light Tank/Medium Tank”.

@BARelement

Жыл бұрын

@@syrez156The turret armor is way stronger than the hull anyway. An MBT is designed to do ALL roles somewhat. Not “one thing”.

@SinfullyHera

3 ай бұрын

Excuses

How much do you wanna show that you like the Abraham? He: Yes

Bit of some info the maus we have in game and in real life is a mixture of 2 different models one of a turret where the hull was destroyed and one where the turret was destroyed but the hull survived. Both being completed and fully operational at that.

the biggest problem with these "comparisons" is they get to use video game controls for wwii vehicles that would have been so much less coordinated and responsive. not to mention the situational awareness difference between using sight glass back then compared to cameras and thermals.

3:47 think you meant kilometers there my friend (3 meters is less than 10ft), other than that great video XD

@The.Drunk-Koala

Жыл бұрын

Yeah an at 2:50 he said 2900kms away. It's all good we all know Yanks have brain aneurysms when talking metric

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Haha oops

Sabot shell eviscerates the entirety of the maus. Somehow still alive with 2 crew members Abrams gets one shot lmao

@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb

11 ай бұрын

After the tiger 2 the guns had a velocity of 2000 m a second , makes one hell of a spalling effect

Like to see versions of m48 and m60s duke it out to see who's better (not sure about the ambt though, seems pretty op)

@xapocotacox

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it shouldn’t go any higher than like the (AOS)

@BARelement

Жыл бұрын

The M-60 obviously because they have stabilizers… Only the M-48 super and German 105 M-48 (basically a M-60) have stabilizers..

@shikikanaz4624

Жыл бұрын

@@BARelement and maybe cm11

Well the Maus would be still impressive I mean Look at that it would been build during the second world war And had to fight against a modern tank and still gave a Fight Such a gigantic difference on the technical side And still did Something

We cant forget that 1 of the protótipys survived a inside explosion with no Scrach

This was an interesting video to see Maus and Abrams fighting.👍

Video idea: The first MBT (Centurion Mk.1) vs the best tank in the world (Leopard 2A6)

@donovanchau3483

Жыл бұрын

That’s a spicy comment because it’s quite debated for both those statements

@kriskay5020

Жыл бұрын

@@donovanchau3483 that's the fun part

@WarmPillow-hs6kj

Жыл бұрын

@@donovanchau3483 I mean I guess you could include 11.0-12.0 MBT’s

2:50 A sniper battle, two times larger than Germany xD With meters and kilometers, its not your thing, hm? But dont take it resious... everyone makes mistakes

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

You have to take the stats from any game with a grain of salt as there is bound to be some amount of balancing for fair play. In reality, an APFSDS round from any modern MBT would punch through a Maus like a hot knife through butter and easily destroy it in one hit. The first battle would have been over before it even began.

It’s WW2 technology against 2023 technology

Oh an Abrams cant kill a muas in 1 shot? Time to leak secret documents - war thunder forums

2900 KILOmeters?! Tanks are amazing! 😂😂😂😂

Uh did people really think the maus had a chance

3:34 Time to leak some classified Abrams documents

Superior German engineering

@GrouchyBear411

Жыл бұрын

Considering the Abrams Gun is german (Rheinmetall), yes

Wow hitting targets at THREE METERS away? lol 3:45

2:58 he is using the wrong round use heat fs if you’re in the same situation

A Maus's Side plate is 200mm and when fully angled its equivalent to 500mm or higher

The poor mice, they could’ve used to be a beast

HE would have been better for the Maus's to use, 128 HE to the shot trap under the turret, guaranteed kill.

How did he put the armor around the Abram’s .50 cal machine guns

Nice video, I really enjoyed it! Would it be possible to do the same but against IS7 for example?

0:52 is it just me or is that maus packing?

2C bis horde vs Abrams when? They survive very well at top tier because of just how many crew they have (and they're compartmentalized too like a battleship). The relatively thin armor also spalls less from APFSDS.

the abrams has a massive technical advantage the maus was good for its time it would have crushed any russian tank back then

In the first scenario, the Maus tanks wouldn't have even gotten a shot off before the Abrams destroyed all of them.

@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL

Жыл бұрын

That’s because the abrams had a massive skill issue

That shows the germans might, if not for their lost battle, i wonder what kind of tabks they would produce

You should do a video on the three big nation heavies to see which is the best all of which are 7.7 too. The maus, m103, and IS4-m.

@el_gato8109

Жыл бұрын

Is4 def

abram : "barely scrath" crew : turn into poridght

This feels like a documentary series 😂😂

Great video! Really got me wondering now how they would really fair in RL... this reminds me of the battle of 73 eastings. Where M1 battle tanks faced off against a more sizeable force of russian tanks and got stomped because of the technology that the M1 had...

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@taelorpickel2830

Жыл бұрын

Iraqi tanks, not Russian.

@2:53 Maus closing in at 2900 Kilometres away... You mean 2900 Metres?

Someone had an artificial aiming esp hack on. One of those Maus had to of. Those were hardcore corner shots they already kept predicting.

imagine a Modern day MBT that weighs 188 tons, it would have to be the most valuable asset to defend as a single bomb could kill it, (yes it should have APS for slower projectiles)

1 German modern Gun VS 32 WW2 ones.Nice. 👍

Hey muffin, lets see how the leo2 does vs maus

@sluin

Жыл бұрын

Probably almost the same

I'd love to see a video of Abrams V M22 or BT5/7 swarm

@commandoepsilon4664

Жыл бұрын

Abrams have .50 cals! They would all die horribly!

*America when they find out there’s 1 drop of oil in Germany*

2:50 2900kms lol. Yes sir we have an American here.

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

🤦🏼‍♂️

Must redo this when we get SEP V3, and better Thermal modeling in game.

My only question is how he managed to find so many Maus players.

@pimpyoda1579

Жыл бұрын

Paid actor thats how

@Dumify

Жыл бұрын

The Maus is not that rare is see it almost every round at 7.3

From experience is being a tanker I know that Abrams is easily destroy those mouses in under 5min

I'd like to see the P-51 plane go up against early jets, or the P-38 against early jets. Would be interesting if props could have a fair match against the early jets in warthunder.

@szymonpajak4102

Жыл бұрын

P-51 versus Me-262. Messers won most of encounters.

@DarthPraennox

Жыл бұрын

MiG-9 (l) > P-51

@yuanxinwang8219

Жыл бұрын

As long as the jets don’t dogfight

@Brendan200

Жыл бұрын

From what i read about 100 262s were shot down over the course of ww2 some by p51s it could possibly be higher than 100 who knows

@commandoepsilon4664

Жыл бұрын

There is a Spitfire at 7.0, it's great because of all the people that think they can turn fight a spit in an early jet. It seems to never occurs to them that they can just choose to stay away.

this is how tp tier looks like after war thunder's birthday

at 3:45 you said 3 meters away from it

I think you should try to recreate more greatest tank battles!

29 hundred km away? wow 2900km are 1801 miles.

@Urssaff

Жыл бұрын

The abrams is now officialy a VERY long range artillery piece

21 hundred km away then acurate to 3m away haha bro

My man you got to write a script you got meters and Kilometers mixed up so so many times

should of done 4 abrams vs them cause in US Army we have 4 tanks to a platoon also as i dont play warthunder so im not sure how realistic it is but i was a crew memeber in an m1a2sep in early 2000's with the abrams you can fire on the move, it seems like the guys driving the abrams stood still to much you should always be moving in and out of cover every shot

@creatorchris712

Жыл бұрын

Wow an actual member of a tank crew ! If they moved out of cover they would be dead in seconds because a far bigger portion of the tank would be exposed and with a single lucky shot disabling the tracks everyone would turn and shoot and most probably kill.Hull down theyre unpenetrable from the ww2 gun on the maus and thus safe.Although with enough hits of that calliber the armor of the abrams would turn to dust and eventually get penned but this is a game.On a final note yes they do have a stabilizer in game but they would miss more shots if they moved also as i said earlier expose themselfs a lot more.

2:47 29,000 KILOMETRES! DAMN THEY SHOOTING FAR

Using MGs against heavy tanks or MBTs makes no sense to me.

Muffin, are you able to do a challenger 2 related video by chance? Or maybe a mirage-2000?

Smoke screen and the maus are completely blind

I played in the event prob the most annoying was driving the maus

I'm very disappointed that the abrams user never used the commander sight to get a higher camera angle for better targeting of the maus

Next video: bt-5 vs abrams. I look forward to the humiliation of the Abrams in the city.

using the Abrams speed and ability to fire while moving, The abrams were used wrong, use the speed and attack from all sides, the mouse turret is not quick enough to land a shot on a moving tank, circle and attack from rear

B.S. Drones with a small warhead can kill an Abrams, let alone large calibre guns…

@idontknowwhattonamemyself8022

2 ай бұрын

dawg does not know how tanks work

Ayyy you use world of warships music for round 2 lol

Lol at the turret ring weakness of the Abrams being way overexaggerated in WT.

I think you underestimated the size of the mous and where he would need to hit it to one shot it. Even in real life. The best shot would be if it hit the ammo so it ammoracks

Just wanna know, you’re the same guy as blitz with muffin right?

I think if your tank cant hit anthor tank at 3 meters, you have an issue

Dude, even *I* could probably hit a tank that's 3 metres away (a few times out of 10, anyway)

@ThunderWithMuffin

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I meant 3k

Fire, FIRE H.E.A.T. ?!

3:46 3 meter range confirmed

"Now when the tanks are closing in at about 2900 kilometers" (same distance as Paris - Moscow) I think they will be going for a while xdd 2:45

@ok-jl7qo

11 ай бұрын

americans

love the abrams man

Imagine what a modern day maus would be like

@amplecrayon9724

Жыл бұрын

I could imagine... And its a terrifying thing.

@zahylon5993

Жыл бұрын

Modern Main Battle Tanks weight as much as King Tigers, but move faster than Panzer IVs and Shermans. Their front armor is stronger than the Maus because of advanced composite armors.

@ddandymann

Жыл бұрын

Dumb, just like the original. Not only are planes still very much a thing but guided missiles are a huge factor on the modern battlefield. A gigantic, heavy, crawling vehicle like the Maus would be a perfect target for any long range guided missiles to delete off the face off the Earth.

@creatorchris712

Жыл бұрын

​@@ddandymann Just put a laser system on it that shoots down the big missiles and it will be fine.Something like the one Rheinmetal made for drones.Or you can just mount a 20-30mm hmg on its back and have it fire shrapnel shells at incoming missiles like the next generation AA of Rheinmetal

@proofostrich9061

Жыл бұрын

@@creatorchris712 A laser of that power requires too much energy to ever be mounted on a tank. That’s why the only working ones are either directly plugged into the power grid or on naval ships. The auto cannon would take up too much space to be of use. That’s why no one puts extra auto cannons on tanks after they tested that idea in the 60s and 70s. And that still doesn’t solve the issue of transporting or maintaining the obese thing. Modern tanks are already on the verge of being to heavy.

My goal is to get that sweet Abrams

3:48 I goddamn hope it can

is ? here?

pretty sure ive seen dreadnaut in a match recently

How much armor do you want? Yes

You should do the 2C vs Char 2C bis and then a joined battle against other tanks!

This would have an entirely different outcome in real life. But what do you expect from a russian developed game.

Would it be possible to make a vid witg e100 vs maus ?

3:44 american knowledge on the metric system

@comic_the_ace

10 ай бұрын

are americans supposed to know the metric system? they dont use it other there so its fair they dont know it well, he also gets the distance and such right quite a bit with only a few mistakes.

@ok-jl7qo

10 ай бұрын

3 meters and 3 kilometers are not remotely the same thing. I pity you.@@comic_the_ace

@comic_the_ace

10 ай бұрын

its not about them being remotely the same thing, he most likely misspoke or miswrote them in the script anyone that watched the video would understand that as he gets the distances and measurements right other times. in his pinned comment on the video its quite obvious he meant to say the correct stuff but misspoke.@@ok-jl7qo

3:45 3 M E T E R S

comparing an abrams to maus is fun in game but lets be real here man