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@hassaanalisiddiqui3827

2 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for the Muslim expansion series

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

Keep it up, you guys rock!

@jorgemasvidal7566

2 жыл бұрын

Buyid dinasty next please ❤ 🙏 ❤

@Aninkovsky

2 жыл бұрын

It would be nice if KNG sponsor has something to do with this channel. Historical games or historical documentaries at least. But, we know, it's hard to maintain such channel in YT. Hope in the future, you can get that kind of sponsor again.

@lonerangerv1224

2 жыл бұрын

please stop with the scummy mobile game ads

The reformist Umayyad Caliph Umar ibn Abdul Azziz once stated: "Verily, Allah has only sent Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, as a preacher and He did not send him as a tax collector.”

@ibadurrehman1210

2 жыл бұрын

based, only good Umayyad

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@Malikin

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahkareem1251 That's a western scandal. There's no evidence that Ummayads promoted cursing in Khutbah

@joerogue231

2 жыл бұрын

@@shakalalalalkh1098 Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.

@imaad2042

2 жыл бұрын

@@joerogue231 lol

I hope in a follow-up video, that you can cover how the last of the Umayyads,Abd al-Rahman I, fled to Spain and eventually founded the Caliphate of Cordoba, a state so powerful it rivaled even the Abbasid capital of Bagdhad in terms of splendor and academic accomplishments.

@bucko9423

2 жыл бұрын

@@rationalislam1667 Then they got completely destroyed by two tiny kingdoms to their north.

@b.griffin317

2 жыл бұрын

@@rationalislam1667 Switzerland?

@sonicluffypucca96

2 жыл бұрын

@@khalildz1552Was that the beginning of the Taifa Kingdoms period?

@mujahid6986

2 жыл бұрын

@PureHeavenlySultan Yes the Umayyads took Fraxinet in France. It was ruled by Arabs for hundreds of years. Yes FRANCE.

@actsfive30

2 жыл бұрын

So Mohammad was a Moor??

Fun Fact about Umar II: He was the matrilineal great-grandson of the first Umar, or the second caliph.

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool

@apalahartisebuahnama7684

2 жыл бұрын

Controversial figure as he often accused by modern historians as the person who introduced the pact of Umar and discriminated non Muslims and non Arab Muslims but also the one who tried to reform corrupt Umayyad system.

@isaiyan1002

2 жыл бұрын

@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 any evidence he did that ? You are talking about umar ibn abdul aziz right ?

@ameershahul2968

2 жыл бұрын

@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 Western lies Umar ibn Abdul aziz right? If yes then that is definitely Western lies

@hmmm3210

2 жыл бұрын

@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 >Accused by modern historians So some dude said something with no one ever recording it in the past over a thousand years later and you guys accept it as fact Orientalism 101

I've heard of Al-Rahman. He had some pretty wild adventures throughout most of his life. But he ended up doing well in Spain. And for Spain while he ruled. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

@mujahid6986

2 жыл бұрын

The Arab Umayyads continued the jihad in Europe (conquering as far as Fraxinet in France and then parts of Switzerland), and parts of North Africa (under Al-Manzor).

@brokenbridge6316

2 жыл бұрын

@@mujahid6986---How interesting

@aegystierone8505

2 жыл бұрын

@@mujahid6986 You have been repeating the same comment all over the page. Why? We are here to learn and enrich our understanding of history, this is no place for childish bragging about your clan like it's your favorite sports team....

@themercifulguard3971

2 жыл бұрын

@@mujahid6986 Username checks out xD

@Abu-Yazid22

2 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about Ibn muawiah 2nd

I never thought that I will get to see the Abbasid Revolution on KZread before! Thank you the team of Kings and Generals for making this video! Thank you so much! I will be looking forward for the videos such as the one about Sayyida al-Hurra and the daily life in al-Andalus for sure! Speaking of al-Andalus, I think you guys should make a series about its culture, society and everything about al-Andalus and the Emirate of Sicily.

@CooperDianeBob

2 жыл бұрын

There's a long video about It on the History Time Channel is really good

@lerneanlion

2 жыл бұрын

@@CooperDianeBob About al-Andalus and the Emirate of Sicily?

@alexcarter2542

2 жыл бұрын

Emirate of sicily for sure - that is a subject of way less coverage than that of el andalus. I think he's done el andalus and it's already covered so much by other sources. The cultural fabric of the emirate of sicily is NEVER covered however

@CooperDianeBob

2 жыл бұрын

@@lerneanlion no, about the abassid revolution

@theoutlook55

2 жыл бұрын

👏🏿

This is something I have always wondered about. Glad you covered it. Keep creating incredible videos!

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

Hey August, I agree they always hit on the best subjects.

@michaelbingel8097

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to know more I can recomend you the viedeos of History Time about the Abbasid Revolution

@ghostd69

2 жыл бұрын

These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄 If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad.. the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni

@Amer_alshmery

2 жыл бұрын

The Abbasid Dynasty was the most powerful country in the world

@zackfakhouri

Жыл бұрын

@@Amer_alshmery No, Umayyads were stronger. Abbasids did nothing in terms of military or expanding islam. Abbasids just cared about keeping their borders, but they did a lot for science, literature, math etc.

I love Islamic history, but I can never read the comments on these videos. Suddenly everyone is an expert on the Umayyad Caliphate

@abdulaleem9207

2 жыл бұрын

haha.

@Gadanfer

Жыл бұрын

What do you think about the Umayyads?

@MK-ps2gw

10 ай бұрын

@@GadanferI think they were greedy for power

@Gadanfer

10 ай бұрын

@@MK-ps2gw Exactly, and nothing but power

@TheUnique69able

Ай бұрын

​@Gadanfer they were great and shaped human history for the better

Kings and Generals, no channel comes close to this one when it comes to explaining history in a very comprehensive and visually splendid mannner

Great video! Certainly looking forward to hearing the tale of Ummayads of Al-Andalus and the Fatimid Caliphs!

@tylerellis9097

2 жыл бұрын

@علي ياسر that logic makes no sense. Charlemagne fought Christians just as much as he fought Muslims and Pagans.

great content 👍. The animation makes it more interesting. One suggestion - plz Make a video on "Kanishka 1 or known as second Ashoka. The emperor of Kushan Dynasty"

Thank you for the great visuals to accompany the history!!

This is something I was feeling the need of today here it's today only that you got this!

3:28, just a note on the topic of jiziya which seems to garner a lot of misconception amongst people who are not very knowledgeable on the topic. The reason the non-Muslims were required to pay this specific tax was because Muslims were already paying their own tax, namely the Zakat. Now because Zakat is a pillar of Islam (just like fasting in Ramadan), one cannot make non-Muslims also pay the Zakat (just like one cannot make a non-Muslim fast during Ramadan). To overcome this problem, and make things more fair amongst the people, the jiziya tax was established. That way, non-Muslims are also contributing to the services granted to them by the Caliphate rather than only having Muslims pay for those services and non-Muslims benefitting off of them for free. Also, in some cases, the jiziya tax was even lower than the Zakat.

@beren1898

2 жыл бұрын

Well depending on the ruler, good rulers put it lower, but bad ones, they put it high and difficult.

@trainertaylor5396

Жыл бұрын

@@beren1898 But you’re supposed to be merciful to those who can’t pay or those unable.

@bababoi9294

Жыл бұрын

Lol zakat was used later to feed the poor while jizyah's money was thrown to the empire's treasury that was exploited by the last corrupt caliphs

Your voice is blessed, your explanation is blessed.

I was literally searching for this on youtube and it’s uploaded today. Wow

One of my favouritve topics! Thank you!

Keep going to make this kind of videos It's so amazing

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

You always manage to post content on the era I’m currently interested in

I've been waiting for this

Great video. I'm always learning a lot from you guys.

Hey there. I am a Muslim from Uzbekistan, Central Asia and i really love the content you make (especially a podcast on Spotify about the Mongols) Pls make a video about the Arab conquest of Central Asia

@whatzitttooya5837

2 жыл бұрын

I’m just amazed how Arabs fought in the Central Asian steppes. Then again, Arabian Peninsula is similar just hotter and sandier

@rafitohornero3850

2 жыл бұрын

@@whatzitttooya5837 your name. I think is a character from spongebob ?

@mohammedyassine9263

2 жыл бұрын

I'm morrocan I'm fond of the golden horde and timurids and Mughals Berke Khan/ulugh beg/prince Timur

@rm3869

2 жыл бұрын

@@tolui1874 What about Baibars

@benjamindavidovichwaals2899

2 жыл бұрын

Do you even allow to had internet over there?

YES! Been waiting for this one! KoG knocking it out the park as usual.

Excellent content! Keep it coming, please!

The KnG channel is just great. Please keep the awesome videos coming.

Thank you so much Kings and Generals channel for paying so much attention to the historical details and upholding them so nicely and accurately. Most of the documentary KZread channels prefer not to make contents about the Islamic history and even when they create such contents are often biased in making those. Staying neutral and presenting the actual story is what we viewers need and deserve. Thank you from the core of my heart for making such a good content. I urge you to carry on the good work in the days to come. Keep up the good work. We viewers love and support you. Assalam Alaikum.

K&G always amaze me. They find the most interesting historical events.

@mujahid6986

2 жыл бұрын

The Arab Umayyads were the greatest conquerors of Islam. The jihad of the Umayyads never ended after 750. They continued the jihad in Europe (conquering as far as Fraxinet in France and then parts of Switzerland), and parts of North Africa (under Al-Manzor). This documentary is hilariously wrong LMAO

@sidp5381

2 жыл бұрын

Well I mean they have come along way since the days off Nurrik and Phoinex I still remember that Azerbaijani voice actor in the original videos it’s like they have completely growing at 100% and more

@syrupyourmaple8261

2 жыл бұрын

@@mujahid6986 I think what they mean is that they didn't get the same amount of amazing success they did in Spain, though you're right that the emirate of fraxinet (which was more a bunch of military frontier bases to raid locals) they did hit as far north as Switzerland

@grvc44

2 жыл бұрын

@@mujahid6986 you are sleeping watch the battle of the tours by k&G

@pawstravel

2 жыл бұрын

and also the narrating is unique

I've been waiting for a long time for this video 😎👍

As magnificent as always 😍 the content you share is marvellous 👌

Umayyads for the most part , avoided converting conquered populations, as they saw Islam as a badge of honor exclusive to Arabs alone, their favoritism of the Syrian population also alienated the Iraqi Arabs who have been the Syrian's rivals even before Islam.

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

How did the jizyah work in this period?

@nirvanic3610

2 жыл бұрын

@ق اجخخ Early umayyads yes but not late

@mohammad.alkurdi.

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodGirlKate each city or kingdom would give 2.5 percent of its income

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammad.alkurdi. I see

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

@‏𝔭𝔥𝔬𝔢𝔫𝔦𝔵 No no just curious

16:26 Falcon of Quraish and the Devil are the nicknames that the Abbasid Caliph al-Mansur gave to Abd al-Rahman after he sent him a box full of severed heads from al-Mansur’s army soldiers, which he sent to take Iberia from Abd al-Rahman.

@SetuwoKecik

2 жыл бұрын

@Uwais Bhai "Islamic Golden Age" that us muslims always brags about started during Abbasid era. Stop being an edgy warmonger.

@iamleoooo

2 жыл бұрын

@Uwais Bhai Ummayad were too cruel

@ghostd69

2 жыл бұрын

These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄 If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad.. the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni

Just wanted say I enjoy your content and have learned alot from your videos. Look forward to future videos.

lol a day ago I was searching for a video on this topic, had to read about it on wikipedia but I'm glad this got released recently because now I can have a more visual association to the events.

Bro when you mention Jizya please Mention Zakat which is five times the jizya

@Onlyme2015

2 жыл бұрын

good point

@thehappyking9365

2 жыл бұрын

zakat is a must on every muslim to the poor of god. Imposed by god not by the politicians but jizya is political

@asmrnaturecat984

2 жыл бұрын

basically the non muslim dissent to be taxed 5TIMES lower than Muslim because it is not prescribed in the Quran, they want to live in caliphate without paying any tax at all and to be treated better than muslim

@kamlaahmad3529

2 жыл бұрын

@Moneyxl00 In addition, one of the eight purposes of Zakat is provided to the poor non-Muslims who are already Jizya free.

@canvassketch4112

Жыл бұрын

@Moneyxl00 don't lie, Abdul

As a history geek im alway happy to see such videos, thinking "damn i never was interested in that part/period of history" just to watch it and be fascinatet by a new world and perspective 🖖🏼

@zkatom3773

2 жыл бұрын

@@rationalislam1667 Spain isn’t much of Europe.

@MohsinRaza-uq2ow

2 жыл бұрын

@@zkatom3773 Spain, southern France (Gaul), Portugal, Sicily, Switzerland, Cyprus is*

@zkatom3773

2 жыл бұрын

@@MohsinRaza-uq2ow Where did you bring Switzerland from? That’s false. And Cyprus isn’t part of Europe wtf.

As a person that watches your videos , I really appreciate this.

Very interesting topic! Keep on the good work!!

Kudos to you guys again for choosing this fascinating subjects. Highly recommending it to continue especially with subjects such as the death of Abu Muslim in the hands of caliph al-Mansur, the Fourth Fitna which paved the way for what we know today as the Iranian Intermezzo and the introduction of Turkic commanders in the Abbasid army which led to a series of incidents termed as Anarchy at Samara. In my opinion, you guys have made a critical mistake. The term Shi'a historically goes through some major changes. The Shi'a at that time was mostly defined as the supporter of Ahl-Beit and their well-being (giving their diminished status in the Ummayad dynasty and their harsh treatments) and not necessarily the supporter of Ahl-Beit as the ruler of the Ummah. In other words, there could be many Sunnis who based on this definition were regarded as Shi'a at the time.

@thetiger3223

2 жыл бұрын

Shiites use the name Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon him) to corrupt the land!

@saifahmadlari4547

2 жыл бұрын

You seem to be learned on this point of history and topic. I have been trying to understand the role of Ahlul bayt in promoting the shia views? Especially the Imams Zain ul Abideen onwards. Would you be able to comment in that? As per the sunnis there were just normal sunni scholars whereas from shias we get the accounts in which they are propagating proto-shia teachings. Have you been able to ascertain any of this?

@thetiger3223

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahkareem1251 Yes! The one who founded the Shiites is Abdullah bin Saba, and he is the one who led the crime that occurred against the rightly-guided Caliph Othman bin Affan.

@GoodGirlKate

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting Peyman

@mohammedkh4321

2 жыл бұрын

Stop this bullying I mean those who are fighting at comments section, don't live at 1600 s!

I love how historically diverse this channel is. Keep up the great work 👍🏼.

@nogibertv4824

2 жыл бұрын

hell even the Rivalries between Dwarves and elves are a topic in this channel.. or the sister ch i think. 😆

@geoffreyfoster8039

2 жыл бұрын

@Mijan Hogue "Historically diverse"?? Does that mean 'real history' vs 'fake history' ??

@mijanhoque1740

2 жыл бұрын

@@geoffreyfoster8039 No as In shows historical battles from the Eastern, Southern, Northern and various countries and not just confined to Western Europe cause it’s popular

Great video again!! I’m waiting for the fifth crusade episode..!!!!

Another great video! Keep going.

Your videos are really good, up to the point and mostly unbiased. Cam you please do a video on battle on Kose Dag (seljuk vs Mongols) and batlle of Ain jalut (mamluks vs Mongol)

@muhammadeisa1459

Жыл бұрын

They've made a video on Ain Jalut

Really enjoyed this episode. It's proves know matter how right your path is, you still have free will and your pride is your number one enemy. Once again, thank you Kings and Generals Team!

Great content bro ❤️

This is pretty accurate history. Love this channel.

I would certainly like to see some coverage of Trajan and his his battles. Only Kings and Generals could deliver the very best videos on this subject. I watch your videos over and over every night. Thank you so much.

@davidhughes8357

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your consideration about Trajan. I'm sure you are quite busy.

Kings and General s is OTHER level of covering, history,by far the most detailed so far

Very interesting video with great facts and informed voice-over to the events of this period

Absolutely fascinating. Thanks.

another amazing one! just one thing, and i would be happy to be corrected, the shia doctrine that we see now was not yet established at that point. it was a political dispute more than it being a religious one. The separation happened later after the golden age of the Abbasid empire, however, it happened on the basis of these events and a couple more events

@alirezafalamarzijahromi8961

2 жыл бұрын

The actual schism occured long before. The First Fitna was the initiation of the schism.

@abdullahsagga7195

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you are right, what we call shia today didn't solidify itself as a completely different sect until around the 1500s when Ismael shah conquered Persian and imposed the new doctrine on people to solidify his rule and as opposition to the ottomans who were the dominant Muslim power at the time.

@alirezafalamarzijahromi8961

2 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahsagga7195 Actually the Twelver Shia doctorine was already solidified during the reign of Buyids at around 1000 CE. Buyids had already politicized the schism to form an independent entity against Abbasid authority. Later on Safavids utilized this doctorine and expanded upon it to form a monolithic populace under their rule and as a differentiation for Safavid influence against Ottoman influence.

Letter from Abdullah ibn Abbas to Yazid ibn Muawiya after the battle of Karbala: "If I have forgotten something, I have not forgotten that you removed Husayn from the Sanctuary of the Messenger of Allah (S) to move to the Sanctuary of Allah, you sent mounted soldiers towards him and you were such till you sent him to Iraq and he also departed fearful and anxious of your mounted soldiers as a result of your enmity with regard to Allah, His Prophet and his Ahlul Bayt - from whom Allah has kept away filth and purified them thoroughly. He wanted you to leave him to return from where he had come. But you preferred to eliminate his few companions and Ahlul Bayt. Thus you attacked him, as if you killed the Ahlul Bayt by deserting and denial. *I don’t find anything more surprising than the fact that you seek my support while you have killed the sons of my father and blood is dripping from your sword. You are one of the targets of my revenge. Your victory upon us today should not make you vain as we would also be victorious upon you one day.”* (Ibn al-Athir, Tarikh, 4/127-128) And it was finally Abdullah ibn Abbas's grandson, as-Saffah, who took that revenge from the Umayyads.

@whatifurdu7370

2 жыл бұрын

@البتّار الازدي Lol . Why didn't yazeed (L) took revenge from Ibn ziyad?

@whatifurdu7370

2 жыл бұрын

@البتّار الازدي Who attacked madinah when people of medinah took off Bayt of yazeed e paleed ?

Looking forward to more videos from you guys. Always love your work.

Love it. Keep it up KaG, along with Invicta you guys always coming with new interesting documentary which is not "Eurosentris". That is the key why KaG and Invicta are in my top notch

What is funny is that the Abbasids chose a black flag to contrast the Umayyad's white flag, but then the Fatimid Caliphate later on chose the white flag to contrast against the Abbasid black flag. I wonder if the Fatimids realized the irony of using a white flag when it was the Umayyads who killed Hussein. Not that Shi'ite Imams fared well under Abbasid rule. I seem to have started a religious/political argument by accident. Whoops. I thought the blame for Karbala was pretty universally put on Umayyad forces but apparently people disagree.

@matthewboyle2641

2 жыл бұрын

@Philosophy 2 Yazid didn't order the killing per se but I don't think they were shi'ites who killed him. Plus, the buck stops at the top so generally if your underlings fuck up you own the bag. I don't think Yazid punished the men who killed Hussein which is really the only way he could have distanced himself from it.

@joerogue231

2 жыл бұрын

Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.

@matthewboyle2641

2 жыл бұрын

@Philosophy 2 I think I see what you mean, his killer fought on Ali's side at one point, but he defected to the Umayyad's by the time of Karbala.

@matthewboyle2641

2 жыл бұрын

@Philosophy 2 They feel responsible for asking Husayn to come to Kufa and rebel against the Umayyads, and then not coming to his aid when he needed it. They "killed" Husayn in the sense of putting him in danger, but they were not the ones who attacked and killed him.

@aesrenjoseph496

2 жыл бұрын

@Philosophy 2 damn you are so biased. You don't Have to say excuses just say Shia are hypocrite. Just to let you know the kufa people were trying their best to revolt but they couldn't because the Wale of the kufa made a futna between the tribes and then he started taking them out one by one

Many Muslim "historians" still paint all historical events with overtly spiritual context. I'm glad channels like this give a more humanist perspective on these events, and not just the shallow "by divine decree" explanation I got as a child. The people didn't just revolt because the Umayyads were illegitimate. They did because they were exclusive in their policies. There is a reason why the revolt began in Iran, and it's not because the Iranians were super pious or anything.

@arifahmedkhan9999

2 жыл бұрын

Literally the same is taught by Muslim historians, who do you think noted all of this down? Some traveling Christian? All of the sources are muslim sources. And yes it was indeed the divine decree that the Ummayds be ousted. Nothing happens without the will of God.

@elcapodeicapi80

2 жыл бұрын

It happens with Allah's Will. The politics depends on who tells the story. We should view history via the eyes of Islam and the understanding of the Companions of the Prophet. The ummayyad were illegmite but even so they are Muslims and they conquered alot of land for the muslims and spread the religion.

@arifahmedkhan9999

2 жыл бұрын

4:21 Listen carefully, here he says how "spirituality" did influence the politics.

@jamieammar6131

2 жыл бұрын

@@arifahmedkhan9999 Yeah please do leave the mystical mumbo jumbo out of actual history, and yes, history is a coin, with two sides. One side tells a story, another tells the same with a different perspective. Islamic history was compiled after the formation of the Abbasids so historians omitted and added whatever they pleased. For example, when the Muslim army was defeated in Nubia, twice. Late Islamic sources barely mention it, and when they do, they paint it as a victory. Another example, the history of the early Islamic civil war, was not properly recorded because it was a shameful point for them. Most of the information comes from the Byzantine bishop Sebeos, and later Islamic chroniclers accepted his story.

@PawSmalls

2 жыл бұрын

@@arifahmedkhan9999 I'm not talking about the traveling historians of the time. I'm talking about the prevailing narrative that is thought today. I'd much rather learn about Islamic history from sources such as this channel than the historian talking in some history program on television in an Islamic country. We can agree to disagree to the "And yes it was indeed the divine decree that the Ummayds be ousted. Nothing happens without the will of God." part. Because I think that's just some empty statement.

Thank you , K&G .

Best video made by you ever.

The Umayyads and Muhammad were supposedly related through Muhammad's Great-Great Grandfather Abd Manaf while the Abbasids were related to Muhammad through his uncle Al-Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib who was only 3 years older than Muhammad.

@apalahartisebuahnama7684

2 жыл бұрын

Hashimites, Umayyads, Abbasids and Fatimids are all related as they're all from Quraish tribe and ironically fought each other for the legitimacy to lead the Islamic community.

@user-kk5nt2dy2r

2 жыл бұрын

@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 the fatimids are not hachimiyin

Great video as always, U guys got any idea when the third season for the early rise of Islam is coming out?

Finally! Som good stuff

Need more like this brother

Thanks so much! :D This gives me a very interesting set of ideas to consider for my book series and it also creates an atmosphere of conflict that I couldn't quite master before.

@LionKing-ew9rm

2 жыл бұрын

@@rationalislam1667 Whoah, what's up with that name bro !

Thanks to give more humanist event of what happened, because lotof Muslim historians try to give spiritual excuse of this event And we don't forget what ummuyad do in North Africa and what they do to the family of muhammad (sas) The ummuyad get defeated from north Africa after the great berber revolt

@sageralanizi3457

2 жыл бұрын

Not true...berber revolt was crushed and you became our slaves again...you berbers love to create a fake history of your own

@ghostd69

2 жыл бұрын

The umayyad was just defeat in first of berber revolt at the end the umayyad shut down the berber revolt after defeated you in battle of alsnam (معركة الاصنام) and battle of alqren under umayyad general handela ibn safwan al kalbi who killed 180k of berber rebel this event was also mentioned by north african historian ibn khaldoun and ibn azari and ibn raqeq

@ghostd69

2 жыл бұрын

@@sageralanizi3457 You right The umayyad was just defeat in first of berber revolt at the end the umayyad shut down the berber revolt after defeated you in battle of alsnam (معركة الاصنام) and battle of alqren under umayyad general handela ibn safwan al kalbi who killed 180k of berber rebel this event was also mentioned by north african historian ibn khaldoun and ibn azari and ibn raqeq

@dzpower189

2 жыл бұрын

@@sageralanizi3457 a (زنجي رمال) who try to laying to himselfyou drinkers of pissofcamel you get kicked out of aour country

@joerogue231

2 жыл бұрын

Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.

I always wondered about this whenever the Umayyads came up, which is to say quite often. I did a bit of research, but nothing this deep. Great video.

Love your videos.

It will be great if you make an video of arab conquest and administration of Sindh

Love this channel because they always talk about history most have never heard before. And Islamic history is like pretty underrated to the general public.

@rocketpod1

2 жыл бұрын

Not really

awesome as usual

This Channel is an oasis in the desert of KZread content for history lovers💥💥🎞

the Abbasid Revolution was one of the most secret and organised revolution in human history

One of the least known and most important powers in the Middle East. The glory of Baghdad during their time was stunning. I cover this in my lectures. Great stuff!

@kamlaahmad3529

2 жыл бұрын

Baghdad was in fact only founded then, yet they made it flourish to be the highlight of the Medievals.

@hmmm3210

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call the Abbasids unknown. Well I am from a Muslim country but I find it hard to believe that they're that obsecure in people's eyes elsewhere to call them unknown. Is the middle East not covered in history where you're from?

@HistoryfortheAges

2 жыл бұрын

@@hmmm3210 California. I have almost no students who have heard about them. You are right they are much better known in the Middle East

@hki4464

Жыл бұрын

Here in the middle east The era of strong Abbasid caliphs like Harun Al-Rashid is considered the Islamic golden age.

Very nicely done and thank you

I did know this but not in the same detail. Thanks K&G!

Yet another good video, does this mean soon we will be getting new season of Rashidun expansion ? been waiting that one for a while alongside with new episodes of Alexander and First Crusade Documentaries. keep up good work 😇

@hmmm3210

2 жыл бұрын

I think he'll be covering the much more interesting second fitna and the Umayyad reconquest of the Caliphate back to Umayyad rule under Abdul Malik against the Zubayrid caliphate as well as mukhtars pro Alid revolt in which he managed to slay Ubaydullah Ibn Ziyad the commander against Hussain which also happened then. There's already a tonne of content on the Rashidun tbf .

This was an excellent narrative on the end of the Ummyads and the rise of the Abbasid caliphate. Thank you!

@esulfab99

2 жыл бұрын

@@rationalislam1667 they ended in the East and continued in Spain!

@ghostd69

2 жыл бұрын

These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄 If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad.. the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni

Amazing video!!

Good work brother

I like the name they gave Spian back in early 8th century Al-Andalus.

@miguelpadeiro762

2 жыл бұрын

The origin is uncertain, but some speculate it came from the Germanic name of the land of modern day Andalusia, landa-hlauts or even from the vandals, vandalusia being the possible name of the kingdom they once owned in Iberia from which andalus derived.

@prince_mauri1975

2 жыл бұрын

it comes from the Germanic tribe the Vandals/Vandalusia/(The/Al) (Andalus/Vandalus) where they were settled in the south of the iberian peninsula..while the germanic Sueves/Suebi in the northwest and Wishigoths in most of the peninsula

@prince_mauri1975

2 жыл бұрын

@@miguelpadeiro762 we commented at the same time about this 😂

@ibadurrehman1210

2 жыл бұрын

@@prince_mauri1975 and what about Germany, which was Almania? what's the etymology for that?

@AloisWeimar

2 жыл бұрын

Basques say hey

When you play Crusader Kings and your vassals start forming factions:

@taylorjake6822

2 жыл бұрын

Accurate lol

Fantastic video

Good stuff. Thanks

History Time did a fantastic video on this revolution. It's hard to follow since both sides have leaders with Arabic names, so it is nice to get a new video on the topic.

@dominicguye8058

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's what made me really interested in this subject

@Onlyme2015

2 жыл бұрын

Jizyah can't be cause of conversion.... Jizyah was legitimate for the rich or capable non Muslims.... If any rich non Muslim converts into Islam he/she must pay Zakat.... U know zakat...? Muslims also pay extra Tax called Zakat..And it is obvious

I appreciate your efforts and really enjoy this channel but just to clarify things " Jizia" is like "Zaka" but for non-muslims which is 2.5% And jizia is even less !

Before long this channel is gonna become a archive of the history of all mankind

Interesting and educational documentary. Thank you.

There is a mistake in the video about the meaning of Dihqan (DEHKHAN which is more common), the dehkāns “lower class of landowners” were divided into five sub­groups, each distinguished by the color of the garments worn (Christensen, Iran Sass., p. 107) in short Dehqans are not Persian nobility!

By the way i think that tabari's number of 12,000 men on the umayyad side under mawan II is much more likely than the 100,000 abbasid sources seem to relate. Mostly because at this point, his previous armies of 10,000 and then 50,000 had already been defeated, and with no general to fight save himself, i have the feeling that at this point marwan was barely in control of anything and the scant 12,000 was more likely just the last death throws of the umayyad's once EXTREMELY powerful influence. I think even those men going into battle for the umayyads 100% knew they were marching to their deaths, but i believe their families had basically been well, WELL compensated for their seemingly uncompromising loyalty to the umayyad clan.

@gaavar

11 ай бұрын

أمس قرأت نص الطبري في البداية كان كلاما بين أبو جعفر وسالم مولى مروان في مجلس أبو جعفر من قبيل الكلام عن معارك الماضي فذكر سالم وهو كاتب مروان أن مروان سأل سالما أن يقدر الجيش العباسي بقيادة أبو جعفر فأجاب سالم أنه كاتب وليس متخصصا بهذا فنظر مروان وقدرهم بمجرد النظر أنهم 12،000 فقال أبو جعفر أنه أصاب

@alexcarter2542

11 ай бұрын

@@gaavar اه لكن السؤال هذا: ما هو عدد الجيش الأموي بقيادة مروان؟؟

I have been waiting for this since the first arab video, kudos K&G!!

Now this is what I needed.

The Ummayid Caliphate had a short rule in India ,Abbasids ruled for more time .As well as many persians fled to India during Ummyad expansion.

@kikaa1884

Жыл бұрын

Arabs never invaded India(modern) They stopped at Pakistan mostly Turkic afghani people ruled north India mostly they don't have blood ancestry Mighty Mughals and Delhi sultanate ruled india for 650 years combined Ghaznavids and Ghurid empire are impotents and worthless empires Muslims ruled India 800 years They ruled Indian subcontinent 1000 years and they ruled south Asia 1200 years mostly

@md.shahiquesubhani7241

Жыл бұрын

Only noble people fled to china,india some in centeral Asia but not normal people because back then this is pretty common.

The end result could in some ways be described as, “Same same, but different.”

@jhonshephard921

2 жыл бұрын

No it was very different. That collation that the Abbasids built led to the House of Wisdom and scholarly works and some of the first multicultural societies in the world since ancient Persia

@ghostd69

2 жыл бұрын

These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄 If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad.. the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni

Great video

A big turning point in Arabic and Islamic history thanks for mentioning it in the video here waiting for more too

I think you should make an episode about Khalid Ibn Alwaleed. That man is always fun to learn about his life and military achievements

One thing I really wish you touched more on was on the death of ibrahim bin muhammad. This is something that history seems to have skipped over, and i can't find a lot of information on it. It's interesting because it's very strange that THIS LATE into the Abbasid revolution that ibrahim bin muhammad should have even been so vulnerable as to have been able to be captured & executed by the umayyads. As you said, this was all the way after the battle & overthrow of the umayyads in KUFA. I mean, this is a longggg ways into the revolution, and at this point the umayyads are literally clinging to power by threads mostly via their loyal followers in Syria. Ibrahim was stationed all the way to the east in Khorasan province where, as you said before, it was safe because it was far away from the umayyad stronghold in Syria. I've never understood this bit of the story and always wondered or not there was actually some type of intrigue which then brought El Saffah into power. Because as soon as Ibrahim is out of the way, El Saffah comes to power and then the show really gets started. If anyone has links to info on this event and the immediate aftermath of El Saffah taking power, please provide them because this has just always baffled me.

@HTH64

Жыл бұрын

maybe umayyad spy caught him.

@alexcarter2542

Жыл бұрын

@@HTH64 i think much more likely El Saffah had him murdered

@HTH64

Жыл бұрын

@@alexcarter2542 yea or turned him in

@alexcarter2542

Жыл бұрын

@@HTH64 no doubt

Thank you sir for enlightening me.

Sir/Madam please make a video on Ashoka's Kalinga War, It was the largest war by scale of mass destruction and casualties. It's a part of my national history that is still in the darkest of the corner of history, may the gods bestow all there good wishes to you and your team members for your contribution to historiography.

While there was a gradual shift from Zoroastrianism towards Islam following the Arab invasion of the Sassanid empire, to claim that the subsequent caliphates had an attitude of religious toleration towards non-Muslim Iranians or even Iranians in general, seems a bit of a hyperbole. In addition, the idea that Iranians were quickly enthralled and fascinated by the religion of their conquerors from the beginning is dubious at best given that there where widespread opposition to the Arab rule. This was chiefly manifested in the early years of Arab occupation. A prime example of this is the assassination of the second Rashidun Caliph, Umar, by an Iranian slave called Piruz Nahavandei. To add, the following rebellions against the Arab rule starting from the rebellion in the city of Estakhr during the time of Rashudin Caliphate in southwestern Persia (which led to the death of forty thousand Persians and the sacking of the aforementioned city by the Arab forces) to the rebellions of Abu Muslim Khorasanei and Babak Khoramdin, which happen in quick succession, demonstrate that Persians did not take kindly to their new overlords or their religion at the first glance.

@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl

2 жыл бұрын

Abu Muslim was as the nickname suggests a Muslim and babak was defeated by fellow Persians

@tylerellis9097

2 жыл бұрын

And don’t forget about the Ziyarids, their founder was a Zoroastrian who hated Muslims and reigned from 930 to 935AD.

@apalahartisebuahnama7684

2 жыл бұрын

True, it's quite common for conquered people to accept new overlordship from another people from another religion. But it's also true overtime many Persian converts able to exercise power under Abbasids and even basically became hereditary head of government to the point that after many unsuccessful attempt to rebel eventually many Persians able to de facto exercise an independent realms from Arabs.

The names such as “ al Safah “ have different meanings other than the blood spiller. Arabic language is considerably difficult for foreigners but the pro-abbasids meant by “al safah” the forgiver and the opposite to the pro-Umayyad who view him the blood spiller. Anyway it is lovely material

@user-bc1wt6qf4l

2 жыл бұрын

@Hatem Raafat "فأعف عنهم واصفح ان الله يحب المحسنين" صورة المائده الآية Surah Madiah ayah 13 "But pardon them and overlook [their misdeeds] indeed Allah loves the doers of good" so the word صفح (Safh) can be used as forgive or overlook.

@ajr1466

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-bc1wt6qf4l انا مب متأكد بس اللقب الا القب نفسه فيه هو السفاح وليس الصفاح، و اصفح و السفاح ليس مثل المعنى على ما اذكر انه قال: انا سفاح بني اميه. والله علم

@ahmadgamal6698

2 жыл бұрын

السفاح

@user-bc1wt6qf4l

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajr1466 صدقت يا اخي،

@youssefgebaly1990

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajr1466 انت صح

Thanks a lot