There should be a BATTERY BOOST switch on the left had side by the driver. When pushed, it connects the coach batteries to the chassis batteries for more amps to crank. Charge them all up and bleed the fuel at the injectors. You are getting smoke so it must be getting some fuel, but maybe not on all the injectors.

@ianbeadle6313

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Bleed the injectors and introduce some injector cleaner.

@tuck6464

2 жыл бұрын

It should have fired on ether, but I still think you're right, it;s not spinning/cranking fast enough, It's close, but not quite fast enough.

@jacoblyonsgrimreaper5075

Жыл бұрын

You got a LEMON

Hi, when you start 10 seconds you should spray ether 3 times while cranking, not only 1 time before starting. This engine has not fired for a long time, has no prime (you said it is a Diesel). It will prime itself, when it starts on ether. The RV looks very nice, lighter colors.

Engine batteries look awfully small for that rig....My Monaco has 8D batteries...check the manual...Good Luck!

When a diesel sits that long, and you changed out the filters. You need to prime the system in order for it to run. I have been dealing with diesels (big rigs) for 16 yrs.. Try that first, and make sure you have the proper batteries for that thing.

@KosherFinance

2 жыл бұрын

Pleb life….

@mattheweustis9506

2 жыл бұрын

Agree they never primed the fuel system

@benmac940

2 жыл бұрын

Would have thought it would start on the ether still though. But definitely should check the fuel system.

Get it towed and work through a list of things mentioned in the comments. If you still can't get it started take it to a disel mechanic you trust see if the mechanic can get it going. The inside just needs a little updating it wouldn't take much.

Engine is not spinning over fast enough - bad connections somewhere or not big enough batteries.

@pickard-cd2yn

2 жыл бұрын

agree i would try putting 24v to the starter motor that would fling it over a lot faster

@ukbusman

2 жыл бұрын

@@pickard-cd2yn it might well be a 24v system like on busses etc

@roberto3420

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's the key. 24v system? one battery is only 12v...

@roberto3420

2 жыл бұрын

NO, it's a 12v system. www.monacocoach.com/resources/media/manuals/2010_Cayman.pdf

@recrdholdr

2 жыл бұрын

@@pickard-cd2yn And potentially fry a lot of electronics. Great idea These RV's are a 12V system.

RVLock looks great installed on that! Thanks for the great videos!!!

I know there's a very low chance of anything happening but I always store the torch with the push button igniter not attached to the bottle of gas and also not beside the fuel can in my trunk. 😀

@marlenen6130

7 ай бұрын

I know, right.

LOL, it's a diesel that has been sitting, the rings have relaxed and the compression is down. 24volt the starter so it spins a lot faster and it will start. Once it has run a little the rings will seal back up and the compression will go back up. I used to work on diesels and seen this many times. Be careful with the ether, too much and a bang will bend a rod or crack a piston. Seen that happen too.

@crayfish7542

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a Diesel Mechanic but > What @ dbc 105 said, Leaves me w/ the Idea of getting one of those " Snake " Cameras, run the line down to the Intakes [ Where the Starter Fluid was Sprayed ] and along side of it run some flexible tubing and add Marvel Mystery Oil in to the Cylinder. But NOT MORE THEN 1 & 1/2 teaspoons, EACH [ so that you DONT BEND THE Piston Rods ! If I Tried this, I would Let it Sit for @ Least an Hour or Two ! It might free up the Rings, and you might get it started ! Unless there is another problem !

Such a nice motor home. I definitely think it’s worth trying to get it if it’s cheap enough.

Wow! Awesome video. Watching a motorhome turn over for 15 minutes is riveting.

When you are prime diesel engines after changing the fuel filter you need to add the diesel into the filter and then put it back on go to injection pump and prime it there by cracking the lines loose at the injectors and let it run out till you get diesel any air you not going to get it start

You should have phoned a local diesel mechanic to go round there and start and assess it, save you a long journey and a lot of parts, but you are in now push forward, check heater plugs and more battery power, enjoyed the video guys.

@andyt5116

Жыл бұрын

it needs more power juice.. if glow plug light goes out and their doin its job no reason way it should fire up.

As I watched this video, I noticed when you were showing your tools that when you showed the gas torch, you put it in the car without turning it off, I made that mistake one time and something got against it and it was lit in my truck,could have been very bad if I hadn't found it when I did. Always check it when putting it away. Be careful.

Combination of proper sized batteries needed …. stall fuel not only in the tank but along the way into the engine needs replacing and cleaning. Nice looking rig and a little outdated with some interior things BUT I would think with a Diesel engine that should last longer than gas engines it’s a winner. AND yes you probably should have found a local Diesel shop and gotten their help … especially with the distance you traveled back and forth. Good luck guys and love your channel. Down to earth and real life issues with real life people 👍

Toast glowplugs? Stuck injectors?

Its not cranking fast enough. I would say that the grounding is all corroded. Left out in that cold and damp weather. Diesel goes bad and should have tried to drain the tank. I know you said it was half full, but its full of water. These RVs must be winter prepped or they won't start come spring time.

@dennishuntley7688

2 жыл бұрын

Or add a jug of Hawes fuel conditioner. That will pull the water threw without wasting alot if fuel. Been using Hawes year round in all my diesel engines for years without ever being froze up or water sputtering. It's a amazing product that quiets the injectors on start up. Takes that metallic rap out when firing up.

All I can say is I worked for trailways and our buses had 2 large batteries and like u said fresh fuel ur car batteries won't turn fast enough and long enough..love watching . Thanks

Don't give up!! Get it home.

Apart from all the other valid tips and comments, it sounded very much as if only one cylinder was really trying. Why not the others ? Need bleeding ? Valves not seating, blocked or otherwise troubled injectors... Often they will come back once it starts but they are not helping that first start at all. Key point is that it needs more juice at the starter.

Can't wait for the grand opening of the Niko Bros RV World!

I would check the fuel injectors as well. Great to see the Canadian Gold (Tim Hortons) in the video.

@rickinoakville1549

2 жыл бұрын

Too funny, cheers!

@logowatchman

2 жыл бұрын

Hah ha. Yeah eh.

@marcryvon

2 жыл бұрын

" Canadian Gold " Funny guy ! Fine cuisine gourmet ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

From a diesel mechanics perspective. If its spluttering like that, it the batteries, not the engine. Its nothing internal because if it was not the battery, the exhaust would be coming out faster then it is. Try more battery power, and then failing that, clean out the fuel system. Defiantly a good deal and go right on ahead with it. Feel free to ask more questions down below this comment.

@leejones982

2 жыл бұрын

You might be a great mechanic but nothing is a good deal until you know the buying and selling prices and if there is something wrong with it and its cost of repair.

@nathanv2358

2 жыл бұрын

@@leejones982 And from my opinion, it is a great deal. But let the brothers figure it out for themselves🤷‍♂️

Put it on a trailer and bring home ,it looks like good value at 80%off. It looks very clean. Cheers from Australia

200+ comments and 1 person said it. Did you test/check the cutoff solenoid? I revived same engine on same chassis sitting for 7 years. 2 new batteries, real battery charger, pulled back solenoid and fired it up. Pick me up on your way back up there(Philly) and I'll get it started

First thing we do on our semi’s when they don’t turn over fast with new batteries is put a new negative battery cable directly from batteries to starter

@craigschenk729

2 жыл бұрын

And use some large cables!

More than likely it was parked having some issues, seeing as that is a Cummings fuel pressure would be my next check, Cummings had issues with those injector pumps, and there plenty expensive to replace... If you don't decide to buy it let me know I'm interested... keep em coming!!!

Usual things when going onto a job like this - take 2 seriously big fully charged batteries, supplementary fuel tank with electric lift pump to connect straight to the engine (bypass any bad fuel and a siezed fuel pump), starter fluid and 10 gallons of fresh fuel!

@MrPaige222

2 жыл бұрын

Best suggestions so far. I was saying exactly that (minus the extra fuel pump thing, which is BRILLIANT)

@Tom-In-Ga

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPaige222 I agree. I seem to remember something about the fuel pumps on those Cummins engines were under recall for the exact problem the guys are having. Chris's suggestion will confirm that bad fuel pump, etc...

Great Videos really enjoying watching what you guys do. Nice fish tank too. Love those African Cichlids. Cheers

Agree with all that are pointing to the Battery's but would Check the Battery Ground Wire's because if that's no good you will just drain the power from the New Battery that you just put into it. I would also check the injectors for Air leaks and glow plug for operation ,either way still a good find .

Geez you would have to go for it...it's in such great condition! 👍🇦🇺

Check the pickup fuel pump. Some older diesels have a pump that feeds the main fuel distributer pump.

I changed my fuel filter on a Cat 326. Didn't fill it all the way before reinstalling. Lost prime. Pressurized the fuel tank and took out plug in top of fuel rail to make sure everything got primed thru fuel pump. Started right up.

Good video guys. Don't let it go yet! This rig is worth a deeper look. Get a diesel expert to have a go at it. Some great suggestions in the comments.

Try and spray the starter fluid directly into the intake side of the turbo and also try to pressurize the gas tank. I ran low on diesel on my rv and it took me almost three hours to get it fired up

Fingers crossed you get it started 🤞🏻🇬🇧

Love the fish tank!

Looks great and you can’t lose if the price is right.

Worth the try for it's a nice motorhome.. Jusr the engine to focus on.. Make sure of all the fuel lines, pressure pump, injectors and ECU module are good.. Then the power issue on why it seems like it's nit getting that much power on the starter.. Or it might be the starter getting weak..

I suspect the fuel pump. Diesel tarnish is like glue. I suspect the shut off plunger is stuck in the shut off position. I bought a John Deere tractor that had been sitting two years, the electronic shut off plunger was stuck...

Thank you👍

Hey man, Turn that torch knob to lock! They tend to light up, if the knob/ igniter gets smack, if it falls against something. Then we'll have a shop car rebuild.

Want to be mechanic's are born everyday. Got to love them.

Looks good! Without starting or checking out the exhaust or transmission I would offer 8 thou.

RV looks to be really nice I would think it would be worth the work

Good luck my friends.

WOW INTERIOR NICE, NICE FLOOR PLAN 👍sorry for yelling at you Lol while it's being cranked over spray that engine 😜🤪😜

My view would be if it truly has half tank of old diesel, it may be bad/ water in it no telling. I would try to see if there is a way to bypass the tank and pull fuel from a fresh source to see if it cranks. If it fires up and runs then tackle the job of draining and disposing of the old diesel.

Did all the fuel filters get changed on it? You probably got it back to the shop by now. I agree, priming, clean filters first. Make sure you fill the new filters with fresh diesel. If it's a cummins there should be a priming button close the the filters. It takes a lot of button pushing to prime it sometimes. The block heaters could be defective or the fuel injectors could be clogged up. Any of a numerous things. I think it's worth it to get it running. The engine could be tired and worn out, then again neglect and sitting is hard on a vehicle.

Did you fill the fuel filter with diesel when you installed it? Can't lose the prime if I remember correctly.

You have fuel as you can see it coming out the exhaust. I have a feeling its just not spinning over fast enough to get combustion so my advice would be to get something like a 627 battery on it.

You have air in the fuel lines loosen one fuel line at the injector and crank the motor until the fuel comes out , then loosen the next one , do this until you get it started,you may have to do every line .please let me know if this works

Great video Mantap

As with everything, it boils down to condition and cost…I saw a lot of rust around the doors and being from NY and me not seeing it in person, not sure. You can get 05-06 models from $55k (asking) with 50k miles. And saw one with 15k for $69k. All comes down to price. Depending on how long it’s been sitting, one of the first things I’d try is flush the fuel system, clean the injectors and bleed the system and make sure the glow plugs are working.

If you rotate the passenger tire to the front driver side, turn on the right turn signal and tap on the roof top four times while cranking it…I bet it will start. Trust me, I had the same issue with mine and this technique works!!!!!

That's such a nice job you done on the burnt RV. I'd go and fetch the other one home too Tony Swansea

Tip for next time. If the diesel is a bit reluctant to start hold a petrol soaked rag Over the air cleaner intake. Works everytime for me. Just a thought.

nice rv its worth getting n fixing it

It sounded like it was tired, not spinning fast enough, oxide on connections?

I think you need to use a plug in mains starter that gives a massive kick to start it

Having had 6 diesel pushers I'd have to say 15k would be a more then fair price

Air in the fuel lines, since it was sitting and then changing the filters. Probably more battery power would help as well.

It’s a gamble for sure. Good luck.

Hook up your fuel jug to the fuel filter base that has the primer pump. If there is gasoline in the diesel fuel it may not start due to lower btu of the fuel. The coach looks too good to have major problems.

@pvillehick67

2 жыл бұрын

You would be surprised how often folks make mistakes when fueling up. A mistake can cause untold grief and expense.

Very beautiful RV! Try to give io more electrical power, the engine cranks so slowly. Greetings from Italy!

Guys thanks for sharing another MH / RV's new adventure. Everything will depend on the price. We already know that there is something strange about the MOTOR, so no more than $ 5,000 and voila. Otherwise it is not worth it.👍

@dencowboy1040

2 жыл бұрын

The diesel generator is worth more then 5k

im sure you guys will sort the non starting one but well worth giving it a try for sure

When starting a diesel not started for a while, cycle the key 3 times to heat the glow plugs before trying to crank it to start. Worked for me on Mercedes, GM, Ford diesel engines. Don't know what the powerplant is so take it for what it's worth, 1 man's opinion.

@janosvarga962

2 жыл бұрын

Cummins have no plugs but grid heater which kinda unnecessary if not below freezing.

@benmac940

2 жыл бұрын

Still would have thought the ether would have overcome that if thats all it was

Hey, Michael & Ivan. Sort of new subscriber here, first comment for me though. Your videos are interesting, and I enjoy you guys fixing some messed-up vehicles. I have a question, my 2003 Mercury Mountaineer's engine area has dirt all over it. I saw you spray an engine with a cleaner & then wash it off. I thought water could get into some parts it shouldn't get into. Any info would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance!

Working at underground coal mines I have found out that the diesel engines have to be turning over at a higher rate of speed in order to crank . I would also bleed the air at each injector as well , but I'm not a engine specialist'

That fuel filter looks original it still has the black paint over the fleetgaurd filter wow

Nice motor home. Based on the motor spinning it’s probably doesn’t need to rebuild yet. Did you check the glow plugs?

Monaco is a good RV Company (or at least used to be). My wife and I owned one for 14 years (Monaco Windsor) and did a lot of camping and traveling in it. If the RV has been sitting a loooong time, first thought is fuel not making it to the cylinders, probably due to air in the system. Also diesel fuel has a tendency to gel in cold weather, which means that stuff can be anywhere in the fuel system. Also agree with other that it should be spinning faster, check every connection between batteries and starting system, especially the grounds. Don't purchase w/o driving it, as I'm sure you know, repairing diesels gets expensive, quickly. One of the reasons I did 80% of my own maintenance and upgrades. A drive will show up just about any issue w/the drive train in short order. The fact that the filter you had trouble removing leads me to believe the original owner may not have followed the recommended preventive maintenance, which puts up a red flag in my book. Nice clean interior for sure, but that isn't where the $$$ disappear to.

@brountre

2 жыл бұрын

I would also check the fuel pump, make sure it is working and it is pusing fuel out and it isn't gel.

@Gmanboobies

2 жыл бұрын

They’re wearing T-shirts it’s warm fuel is not jelled you don’t know what your talking about.

@davidderway3227

2 жыл бұрын

As I recall, the coach was located in New York State and had been sitting for "a few years". Trust me, it gets cold in New York State.

@Gmanboobies

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidderway3227 I know I’m a New Yorker, the fuel will only be jelled in the winter. Lol! It’s not jello and stay set.

Could it be an "emergency stop" lever, button, switch be activated?

Go for it, get the RV 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍

My opinion after working on RV's for 30 years. Check the coach batteries and see if they are still good. If they are, start the generator up and let it start charging those batteries. That way once it gets going you can press the aux start/batt boost button and it will help. You really never had the proper voltage to the starter so it could spin faster to start that engine. It doesn't need an overhaul as it does not have that many miles on it. You changed the oil which was a great start, plus the fuel filters. I've never had to spray starter fluid in one to start it unless it is a really old engine. That one is what a late 1990's to an early 2000's? That engine just needs more cranking power and it will start.

Did you prime the fuel system? If a diesel sits for a long time or filters are changed, you need to get the air out of the system and prime it until fuel pisses out of the intake on the engine.

I'm not a Diesel Mechanic but > What @ dbc 105 said, Leaves me w/ the Idea of getting one of those " Snake " Cameras, run the line down to the Intakes [ Where the Starter Fluid was Sprayed ] and along side of it run some flexible tubing and add Marvel Mystery Oil in to the Cylinder. But NOT MORE THEN 1 & 1/2 teaspoons, EACH [ so that you DONT BEND THE Piston Rods ! If I Tried this, I would Let it Sit for @ Least an Hour or Two ! It might free up the Rings, and you might get it started ! Unless there is another problem !

Go for it!

Looks like a great project. My feeling it could be a bad starter but then could be other issues too like fuel pump and stuff like that. I think you guys could tackle it since it is a great looking RV

Did you bleed the injectors after changing the filters? Did you check the glow plugs for resistance. No continuity no glow plug. Some engines, if the glow plugs don't cycle, it won't let the fuel relay open the fuel shut-off valve.

Never change fuel filters on a diesel after sitting for long time cause you will loose the prime and you could burn the starter to get it started for the first time, crank it with old filters and then change filters, also when cranking you can use wd40 or auto zone brake cleaner and you have to spray while cranking to get it fired up

When you fitted the new fuel filter did you fill it up with diesel as you will never start it without doing that first..

crack open each injector line/loosen each injector, and crank the engine, or pump the fuel primer mechanism until you see diesel leaking , then tighten, and do the same for each remaining injector. that gets the air out of the lines, and will show if the pump is working. there may also be a mechanics starter button in the rear by the engine bay, like on buses. you probably lost fuel prime. you also probably need a little more battery to get that engine starter spinning the engine faster.

Super clean., if there are no harsh smells I would buy it. I think the batteries are way to small. Not sure the engine but it should be a bigger cummins or a cat. The more battery the better . Plus bleed the air out of the fuel system.... bleed from the injectors to see if you have pressure

hey guys i wish i was a niko brother (cuz then i'd be totally smart on cars) but man yea you guys didn't lie this rv still looked brand new i was gonna say risk it but after watching this it reminded me of my very first car an 86 honda in 05 people all over said forget about it but i don't like giving up on things like you guys that's all that crappy 86 honda did was make those bad noises and wouldn't turn over it always took me 30 mins before i could leave from anywhere then that summer my old job was only one freeway exit away but going don the exit it stalled and died then 2 months later i had my car guys get it ready so i could maybe drive it up to camp with men from church let's just say i had to drive it with the heater on but just as were about to go over a freeway bridge it was red lining and stopped aftrer that i told my dad and grandpa plz help iv'e had so many cars since then it's not even funny however on a funny side note: a min and half into the video the first thing you guys show is your work vehicle is stick shift wow if i was a niko brother you guys would have hated me i can't drive a stick shift at all sorry the only thing i would have been able to do on this trip is buy us lunch (never heard of that place you guys stopped at) and the other thing i could have done was be the one at the wheel trying to get it to turn over !!

It was immaculate inside, for it's age, a good buy even if you have to put a new motor in it

That a nice motorhome.that motor is fine. Clean the injectors. Flush the fuel through till you get the fresh diesel and it ensures the injectors are spraying. Start it up.

You guys are good guys I see you all the time you're young God bless you I'm 79 years old and I want to get one of those Hobbies that you bought a big one there a big gray one and you put all those other ones back together you did a damn good job I don't know how you put how you know how to put them back together is it just picking poke or you have some intelligence together how do you find a Brent wires if you put testers on them do you put do you run new harnesses I mean that's the main thing in in a RV is the is the highness everything else you can cut out and put back but in the hottest thing is the roof but even you could take boards and put them together glue them together and then put them in water and bend them and then bolt them how many minutes it is it's just like building a boat back from the hell up but I think do you sell them do you find the answer and you hold the title and I insure them for liability and replacement say you got one that's $20,000 or 25 I insure it for 50 and if it burns up you get paid and we both make money but I wouldn't do that illegal anymore I don't do that stuff but I'm just saying you never know I mean how things go I mean but I'd like to live in one especially with two slide outs I was looking for a Fleetwood but I don't know you I don't know how you find all these cold past stuff do they put it to you on a computer do they send you pictures of it and how do you know the price of it is that with it or do they give a general price and then they go up on that you and your brother and dad must be rich I mean how do you get the money to buy all this stuff you can't go to a bank well let me know it's very interesting I like watching you you know you you and your brother have Harmony and work together so that's that's a good thing you must yell at each other once in awhile but that's all right that's what brothers are for as long as you don't use left and right all right will you take care man if I get some money out if I get 10 or 15 grand I might pay you to get me one because I don't have an accountant at Copa and you see more more intelligent than me I mean I don't care if the inside is all ripped out as long as it's got the sliders and and I can rearrange itself and it's got an engine that runs and and the dashboard ain't burnt the stove and refrigerator I can do all that stuff myself I have the technology I used to build cabinets and boats I used to build million dollar boats so I know used to not anymore I'm getting too old I can hardly walk down the street but I just renewed my driver's license for 5 years so I guess I'm good to go what are you take care and you got to laugh a little bit you know if you don't laugh a little bit now you might as well go over and sit on the curb and suck your time and go back to puberty

This I want to see. I was getting withdrawal already :)

Hi from the uk , I love your channel really good content , you really need to go back and get that rv, you have already bought parts and spent a few quid, it wants to start but even with the new battery the starter motor still seems a little bit slow , and the fuel tank on that thing will be massive , did you put enough fresh fuel in , of theres more bad gas than good gas , that could cause you problems :)

Did ya check the blinker fluid level?

Came across your channel..iv got a lot off catching up to do on these dark uk nights..we have a 23year old motorhome home we call discovery..iam no Mechanic but did you try my 3 words off choice as it always work..turn the keys and say.."start ya b@s#rd"always work lol..Great channel guys

Hi guys I just saw your video on the A class diesel pusher . When you changed fuel filters did you refill the new ones was diesel fuel before you installed it. If you did not it will not start until they failed all it’s going pumping air in the fuel system

Watched the video - don’t think you primed the fuel filters when you changed them - or did I miss that? Gotta admit thought it was a gasser when it first spun over did not sound like a diesel at all

@donwatson8257

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't see cracking fuel lines from the P pump to the injectors either

@cliffmauck510

2 жыл бұрын

yep, that was my first thought. Prime the filters.

@stephenricketts7764

2 жыл бұрын

Might be self priming system? I don't know about these large things .

@benmac940

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't show either way they just showed an old filter and said they did it. Either way you'd think it would have started on the ether if that's all it was.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tim Hortons a Canadian ICON and staple

@johnstaples3605

2 жыл бұрын

maybe back before the cut corners, stopped making the donuts in the store and had them shipped in. and the coffee is gross from there.

Every motorhome that sits idle for a long time will have things to fix. That reminds me that I need to check on ours and start it and run it. We all need "exercise" or we'll atrophy.

I purchased a similar one and I got a massive can of worms! But not scared of it and getting done!!

Could it be a compression problem..I would definitely check that.

For Diesel engines, after siting for long time, usually you need to prime the pump to remove the air.