Aaron Renn: America/Israel, Christian Nationalism, Postmillennialism, Christians in "Negative World"

Aaron Renn and Dr Josh Howard discuss various topics, including the current impotus behind American-Israel relations, Postmillennialism and Christian Nationalism, Doug Wilson, Stephen Wolfe, and preparing for 2024 and beyond.
Life in the Negative World: Confronting Challenges in an Anti-Christian Culture a.co/d/ddlBx60
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  • @Brandon-bh6zq
    @Brandon-bh6zq5 ай бұрын

    Greetings friends

  • @Naomi_OB
    @Naomi_OB5 ай бұрын

    Aaron on both Eschatology Matters AND Relatable w/Allie Beth Stuckey on the same day!!

  • @andrewbrowne5557
    @andrewbrowne55575 ай бұрын

    ‘That Hideous Strength’ is a far more frightening book than ANYTHING Stephen King ever even imagined…

  • @SoldierofChrist9
    @SoldierofChrist95 ай бұрын

    Post-mils have come down to two camps: Rushdoony Post-Mil and Puritan Post-Mil(Historicist)

  • @stephenbailey9969
    @stephenbailey99695 ай бұрын

    Pilgrims in the land. Our task is to walk in love and good works, no matter what. This age is passing away. The new one is coming in which righteousness is to dwell.

  • @rontherrien7392
    @rontherrien73925 ай бұрын

    What about the great commission, make disciples of some, no of all the nations teaching the laws of God. The bad theology of most churches is Christ can come back at any moment, and been saying that for a very long time. 1 Cor 15:25 as well as Col 1:20, he will reconcile all things to himself. Psa 110 is quoted many times, some say 33 times in NT. He will make all his enemies his footstool. These things must happen, the earth being Christianized, by end of church age. We plan n work to establish the kingdom for our great great grandkids.

  • @ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439
    @ftk-forthekingdomministrie74395 ай бұрын

    The real negative world is Dispensationalism. #DispensationalismisDead

  • @mbfrommb3699

    @mbfrommb3699

    5 ай бұрын

    lol! Yet it's still true. See here's the issue I have with modern Christianity is that so many are anchored to this world. Of course, we should share Jesus, try to live in peace, and be good stewards of the LORD's creation yet if you're paying attention the LORD has been dismantling the world since January 30, 2020. 2024 will be a horrendous year and 2025 will be even worse. In 2021 six months before Russia invaded Ukraine I did a video calling it. In that video, I also said China will invade Taiwan. Now timing is never easy as I thought these events would be closer, however, the path hasn't changed in fact it's only accelerated. America regardless of which party sees or wants people to see China as an existential threat. They want war. Whether it's right or wrong, the fact is America and China will in high probability go to war over Taiwan before 2026. Now in 2021, I didn't think it would take 3-5 years but it's irrelevant, two global superpowers at war dramatically change the world. President Biden (but you can find Republicans sounding the alarm on China as well) said that if China invaded Taiwan, the US would send troops to help defend Taiwan. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqiftJOQn7WshKg.html China's Xi on Taiwan www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-58854081 Now is this a certainty? No. Taiwan could elect a president who wants to peacefully unify with China again. However, that would be disastrous for America if China does this and at some point decides to not export electronic chips to the US. (Which is what BRICS is designed to do. Rival the West). Ukraine is losing to Russia, and I can't help but wonder after America has spent billions since 2014 to fund Ukraine and sent them all sorts of military equipment if America will just let Ukraine lose. But it's not just war. America is broke and by summer we should start really feeling it, the reason we haven't yet is that during all the money printing in 2020, certain accounts were flooded with cash and as the US borrows more and more those accounts are rapidly getting drained but it gives the illusion everything is ok. Within 6 months those accounts should be drained and then there will be no more extra cash to float the boat. Then interest rates will go up and people will be SOL as borrowing from a government, corporate and personal standpoint becomes very difficult for millions of people. We enter into a global recession/depression. This is not a housing crisis or a tech bubble, this is a currency crisis. This will be a result of the foundation of the global economy collapsing. The very stability of the money we make and spend will be at risk. Now the US dollar being the reserve currency might hold on a little longer than others but it's almost at zero value as well. preciousmetals.shandaconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Gold-outperforming-currencies.jpg We can see from the FED's own site, in 1914 the US dollar was worth $1 (100 cents), today it's worth 3.2 cents, a loss of 97% of its value. fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUUR0000SA0R Now maybe it takes 20 years for the US dollar to collapse I don't know. What I do know is that it'll get harder and harder to live as the purchasing power is lost and it is accelerated by the enormous spending the US government does, needing the Fed to print more currency into the system. When a crisis arises say the deep recession we were already in gets bad, the pattern of the government/ Fed is to bail out the system which accelerates the destruction of the currency. kzread.info/dash/bejne/foVkr5hvj6TQiNI.html And when governments have domestic issues they can't quell, they go to war. What the LORD has done is condensed the timeframe. We don't have to look at hundreds of years in the past let's just look at the pattern of the 1900's. Global pandemic in the teens, a time of boom in the 20's, then a great depression in the 30's, between 1920-1940, and WW2 in the 40's. 2020 global pandemic, recovery, entering a deep recession/depression, with global war on the horizon. Now the LORD could alter course, but to me, there has been a distinct divine influence since Jan 2020 where the LORD is actively moving all these things into place. Eschatology as is all Bible prophecy is played out in reality. We may not like it, but I also think we can't ignore it. The West is broke (or is rapidly approaching being broke) and the US gave a lot of its weapons to Ukraine (which is losing the war) www.cnn.com/2023/02/17/politics/us-weapons-factories-ukraine-ammunition/index.html Now I am totally willing to hear a counterview but to me, the "I don't like it, because it sounds scary" is not a biblically viable view. You and I don't have to agree on theology, however, since Eschatology is revealed in reality we have to examine which view reality as we see it supports to see the truth. If American Christians have an Eschatological view that doesn't require America and the West to exist for it to be fulfilled, I am all ears. The West is weak and the East, call it BRICS, or the China/Russia, alliance, whatever, will take advantage of that weakness. Take care.

  • @mbfrommb3699
    @mbfrommb36995 ай бұрын

    Part 1/2 I don’t disagree with the speaker that we should live each day for the Lord both living to share Jesus now and anticipating the life to come. And I totally get how the hype of American Christians over premillennial dispensation has gone to some extremes. Whatever Eschatological view you hold, if you could just for a few minutes play "What if...?" with me. Just consider an alternate idea. What if Early Christians and Jews saw what we call the 2nd Coming taking place after 6000 biblical years? Barnabas, AD First Century “Therefore, children, in six days, or in six thousand years, all the prophecies will be fulfilled. Then it says, ‘He rested on the seventh day.’ This signifies at the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus, He will destroy the Antichrist, judge the ungodly, and change the sun, moon, and stars. Then He will truly rest during the Millennial reign, which is the seventh day.” Epistle of Barnabas 15:7-9 Commodianus, AD 240 “We will be immortal when the six thousand years are completed.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 35 “Resurrection of the body will be when six thousand years are completed, and after the one thousand years, the world will come to an end.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 80 Victorinus, AD 240 “Satan will be bound until the thousand years are finished; that is, after the sixth day.” Commentary on Revelation 20.1-3 Methodius, AD 290 “In the seventh millennium we will be immortal and truly celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.” Ten Virgins 9.1 Judaism- www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/607585/jewish/Significance-of-the-year-6000.htm "The Talmud tells us that this world, as we know it, will last for six thousand years, with the seventh millennium ushering in the cosmic Shabbat, the Messianic Era. Six days a week we work, and on the Shabbat we rest and enjoy the fruits of our labor; the same is true with millenniums. However, it is certainly possible for Moshiach to come earlier. And we believe, hope, and pray each day that this is the day when Moshiach will come...So yes, we don't know exactly when Moshiach will come, but we do know that it will be before the year 6000." The obvious question is when is the 6000th biblical year? Well, one of the errors we have today is we use a solar Gregorian calendar of 365.2424 days per year. The Old Testament in 3 places Genesis 7-8, Isaiah 66, and Daniel 9 uses a 360-day calendar. So from Adam and Eve to Jesus, we estimate it was 3,946 years. From Jesus to today is 2024 years so, that would be 5,970 years. Making the year 6000 2,054 AD. What if this was true? Only time will tell. Many Christians say that Israel becoming a nation in 1948 was significant to understanding the time of the 2nd coming. They apply the “lesson of the Fig tree” to Israel. If we study Mark 11 we see the cursing of the Fig tree and it died. Many Pastors have done videos on this but I like Brandon Robbins's video the best. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZ6VmKp9osiYm5s.html So Jesus curses the fig tree and it dies. Many see the events from 70-135AD as the fulfillment of Mark 11. Notice that from Jesus cursing the Fig Tree to the fulfillment was 103 years (Cursing 32 AD- 135 AD). The LORD took everything He had given from the Jewish people. Their Temple, Jerusalem, the Land, and even the name "Israel" was taken by 135AD. In Mark 13, in connection with the 2nd Coming, Jesus says the Fig Tree will bloom again. What if... the LORD will reverse what was taken when the Fig Tree blooms? First, the name "Israel", the land, Jerusalem, and finally the Temple will be rebuilt. What if...When Jesus says the Fig Tree will bloom again, and it will lead to the 2nd Coming, within the generation= 1 lifespan? 103 years from curse to fulfillment in 135 AD. 1948 +103 years to restore what was taken 2,051 AD. Same timeframe as the 6000 years. Maybe it's a coincidence. The cursing and death of the Fig tree was fulfilled by 135 AD, when the Lord took everything He had given to the Jewish people fulfilling Jeremiah 8:13. It took 103 years from the cursing (32ad) to the fulfillment (135ad) now what if dispensationalists had said that within 103 years (1 lifespan = generation) until Jesus returned which would be about 2,053 ad? Would we be more keen to watch to see if these 2 timeframes that biblically line up might be true instead of proclaiming Jesus is coming imminently?? Let’s take the Book of Revelation and What if... we assume that 21 events lead to the 2nd coming (3 sets of 7 events). What if we took a look at the first 6 events (Revelation 6) within the period of 103 years from 1948-2,055 approx). What if until we saw event number 1 no one said the 2nd coming was imminent would you still be looking? Let's just for fun take a look at the first 6 events. I'm not saying it's correct, I am just saying what if...? The first event Rev 6:1-2 is a rider who comes on a white horse has a weapon has one crown and goes out to conquer. Let's contrast this with the 2nd Coming in Rev 19:11-16. Jesus comes on a white horse, has a sharp sword, and many crowns to rule the nations. Similar but not the same. In John 5:43 Jesus tells the Jews one day they will receive someone else who comes in their own name. In Matthew 24/Mark 13 Jesus says as the first sign many Messiah will come. The only people the Bible is concerned about calling someone a Messiah is the Jews. Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, yet Jesus says the Jews will accept another. www.israeltoday.co.il/read/israeli-rabbi-says-hes-already-holding-meetings-with-messiah/ What if...this person whoever they are, when the Jews reveal him and claim is the long-awaited Messiah is Seal 1? Notice this Rabbi is trying to figure out the timing of the arrival of the Messiah www.israel365news.com/339505/israeli-rabbi-reveals-date-of-messiahs-arrival-according-to-kabbalah/ Notice what he says: "“On Yom Kippur, Moses brought the Torah down from Sinai. In the desert, we received the Torah and in the desert, we will receive the Messiah. But this time, the desert will not be what you think it is. It’ll be something completely different. The miracles that took place in the desert will reoccur” he notes." Notice Jesus's warning in Matthew 24:23-26 23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. (Elect = Jews Isaiah 45) 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it." Regardless of how you read Revelation, there is definitely a "war" theme. Seal 2- Peace is removed from the earth. Seems like after 80 years of relative peace on earth we may be entering a time of no peace. Seal 3- Global Hyperinflation where a denarius= "days wages" will not be able to buy you bread. kzread.info/dash/bejne/foVkr5hvj6TQiNI.html How inflation over the last 100 years has destroyed the US dollar. In 1914 the US dollar was worth $1 (100 cents) today it's worth 3.2 cents. A loss of 97% of its value. Guess what happens when it hits zero? fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUUR0000SA0R The US dollar isn't the only one. shandaconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Gold-outperforming-currencies.jpg (Continued in part 2)

  • @timmartin4216
    @timmartin42165 ай бұрын

    Maybe God is moving to draw his wife closer to him to live by faith rather than power politics and chariots and horses?

  • @conceptualclarity

    @conceptualclarity

    5 ай бұрын

    Power politics is a propaganda term used by people who want Christians to wave the white flag in the culture war.

  • @micahlantz905
    @micahlantz9055 ай бұрын

    Aaron Renn is unhelpful and weak. I'm sad that Doug Wilson gave him a platform.

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