This video but with a link to buy it: mrgunsngear.org/3XTJB27

@JohnLloydScharf

Жыл бұрын

The penetration, FOR BARE CLEAR BALLISTICS GEL, was inadequate. It needs to be 15 to 21 inches.

@N.Y.Reload9mm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mr Guns and Gear! Could you in the future possibly speak to the current controversy over the safety of the P320. I thought this was a thing of the past but it seems to still be going on kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKOuydeQgdyxcqw.html

Tool: Glock 45 Velocity 1:54 115gr: 1126, 1139, 1136 & tech data 2:12 124gr: 1078, 1094, 1068 & tech data Gel test 3:07 115gr 3:31 gel close-up 4:01 124gr 4:23 gel close-up 4:57 bullets 6:27 outro

@zm1786

Жыл бұрын

you're based

I appreciate you working with ACC to test their new offerings. I'd love to see some gel tests of their 300bo options, and if your have time, their 5.56 options. Thanks Mike!

I don't know if he mentioned it but this company is owned by Palmetto State Armory. Good old fashioned made in the USA.

@2a_all_day125

Жыл бұрын

Sweet didn't know that thanks.

@oscarlopez5490

8 ай бұрын

hoh wow 👍🏽👏🏽

@Splashmaster97

3 күн бұрын

Made in the USA aaaaaaand at a great price. Best of both worlds

Given 2022 prices, that ammo is very well-performing and *extremely* well-priced. Best value-deal since Remington's 50- and 100-round boxes of 9mm JHP, and that's been a minute. Thanks for presenting this!

Just ordered three 100 rd boxes for $46 each. 300 rds is enough rounds to last me a lifetime in terms of self defense with at least 285 rds to spare

I just shot some of the FMJ range ammo from this company today and I was impressed with it. It is very clean burning ammo, did not take long to clean the gun afterward. I did not use a chrongraph, but the feel is correct for the advertised velocity on it. 124 grain FMJ 1150 fps is what I shot. Some of the cleanest burning ammo I have shot in a long time. It is on sale right now, get some while you can.

The XTP is probably the best old cheap bullet because it actually penetrates to a reasonable depth. You can even buy and reload them yourself for practice or pistol hunting (critter dependant, 10mm can give some nice results)

@psubond

Жыл бұрын

We use 44 cal XTPs in muzzleloaders with sabot, really does a number on deer. Havent had one not kill a deer on first hit yet. Has the BC of an '82 buick though so i keep my shots under 100 yds

@Tinman3187

Жыл бұрын

That is true but one thing to keep in mind is that the xtp bullet has a very ridgid jacket and in some cartridges it may not expand if it is fired from a short barrel and the manufacturer doesn't load it hot enough. Lucky gunner did an extensive ammo test on self defense ammo and a lot of the xtp bullets failed to expand because they weren't loaded hot enough and were in short barrels. Great bullet in general for magnums though.

@psubond

Жыл бұрын

@@Tinman3187 shortest barrel i have is 4 inch. They will work just fine at 1150-1200 fps

@Tinman3187

Жыл бұрын

@@psubond that is true but a lot of people carry 3 inch 9mm and some ammo manufacturers don't load their xtps hot enough to get that velocity from something like a sig p365. I use xtps in a lot of cartridges that I load but I always pay attention to the minimum velocity Hornady cites for the particular bullet. For example if you look at 125 grain 38 special loads you will never get that velocity out of a standard length barrel so for some uses xtps are actually meant for magnum cartridges.

@psubond

Жыл бұрын

@@Tinman3187 i cant speak for what anyone else does, i know what i carry and what works for me

Palmetto state armory is doing really good things.

I really appreciate gel tests. Thanks

I just wanted to say that fast forward on the new KZread update is mint. Buttery smooth

TY for doing videos like this.

Nice, love hornady’s bullets

Another informative video. Also the power that be unsubscribed me i dont know how long ago but i was lucky enough to catch this in feed today

I’ve been loading my own so long I can’t remember the last time I’ve bought a box of ammo other than 22lr and 12ga but I haven’t bout 9mm, 223/556 in years. Now that my small pistol and small rifle primer stash is dwindling down and current prices on primers I’ll probably be back to buying factory ammo before long. Definitely gonna keep this brand in mind. I’ve seen a couple GunTubers using this and of course I always wonder if they are just saying good things cause it’s free or not but I’ll give it a go. I’ve always felt like this channel has been one of the few that doesn’t simp for brands just cause it’s free and even some times when it’s not free. Thanks for the video and everything you do to help us common folk out. Now if I could get my permission slips from the regime for my cans I would be so happy. I wanna shoot suppressed lol

@JohnDoeEagle1

Жыл бұрын

I have been reloading my own ammo and casting my own bullets for over 30 years. I have a good stash to last me until Bidumb is out of office.

Well done as always. Thank you Sir.

Very good company. Very good ammo. I've been shooting their ammo since 2022 of Dec and now have shot a total of their .308 380acp, 45acp, 9mm and now 10mm. Roughly around 5,000 rounds total. Not " 1 " problem. I love the fact that PSA even makes their own primers in house

Great timing of this video, I've been using their 115gr ball ammo for the range and was wondering about these hollow points. I might puck up a couple hundred to try out.

@Mrgunsngear

Жыл бұрын

This video but with a link to buy it: mrgunsngear.org/3XTJB27

Thanks for testing these I've been seeing them but didn't want to buy without seeing how they would preform. Same thing with everglades ammo. Haven't seen a test on those yet either.

Will be looking into these

Thanks, that is a very good option.

Simply put, the XTP works at the designed parameters. I have used them in all my handguns from .32 Magnum up to 480 Ruger. My favorite handgun bullets.

XTP has been around a long time, it's still a viable option. More ammo manufacturers is "Nothing to be mad about, at all."😉

Good info. The XTP was designed for the FBI after the Miami Disaster. It is supposed to expand to 1.5x diameter and penetrate deeply. It does that at the velocities you got. I saw a video where the 9mm XTP was shot into the gel at 100 yards from a carbine. It worked perfectly.

@rob6850

Жыл бұрын

Beyond Seclusion, another great channel

@12345corman

Жыл бұрын

My old friends brother was one of the agents who passed away that day. He was also in FBI.

Looks like a good, affordable JHP option for stacking considering the cost.

@almostontimehero5415

Жыл бұрын

Hollow point are for defense, not target practice. It's okay for Hollow point to be expensive if you get great quality and high performance. Speer Golddot, Federal HST and Hornady Critical Duty/Defense are the best for a reason.

@robertalford1321

Жыл бұрын

@@almostontimehero5415 that's like saying "the grass is green" when everybody obviously knows it is. No one is saying anything to the contrary of what you just said, and you obviously missed the point. It looks like a lower cost option for (((((stacking))))).... I personally run HSTs in all my carry guns, BUT I'm not going to tie up all my resources in trying to stack ridiculously large amounts of them, and neither are you. We're not on the same page. Run along... Lol

Thank you for the data.

Newer guy here. I have bought critical defense, punch, Sierra, and some others. I like to have options. I am grateful for this video showing me that in a standard carry Glock, these are not trash. Currently they are priced .45-50 each. So they are affordable. As I was looking at these on the psa site they listed the xtp lead like they produced the round itself. I would have been more inclined to purchase this if they had listed the hornady round in their packed shell. Maybe I misread it or was ignorant to the obvious.

Hornady Critical Defense is my chosen self defense load.

@tylerwill5250

Жыл бұрын

Please choose ANYTHING other than that round. Even critical duty would be 10x better. That “critical defense” line underperforms in almost every caliber. Terrible penetration, terrible velocities, ive seen them not even open up before in gel.

👍🏻I’m using 124 gr XTPs loaded by precision one.

I think this will work well in compact or larger as maybe a inexpensive hunting load, and maybe a summer time carry for self defense. Or you just live in a hot location. Wire you don't have to worry about thick clothing.

Taofledermaus mentioned using a torch to heat the gel and get rid of those wrinkles so th channels are easier to see

I picked up some 115gr 9mm FMJ not the JHP from PSA. Out of 500 rounds had a few hard primers that needed a 2nd strike. Still miles above Winchester white box. I’d shoot Russian steel junk over WwB lol. Nice video brother

@CiviTac

Жыл бұрын

Win WB is the worst dude. I hate it

on the subject of 9mm after 46 years of reloading many, many calibers i like test a caliber with different size bullets for best accuracy and function. in my cz 52in 9mm ive reloaded 357 dia.xtp in 110 gr, 125 grand Remington 110gr sjhp bullets. they shoot accurately, flawless operation ,awesome expansion. i also shoot these bullets in one of my Taurus g2c pistols that is accurate and flawless in operation. not all 9mm pistols will do this. plus they expand better in my 9mm than a 38 special revolvers I've tried them in. papa wishing you well 😊

XTP is an oldie but a goodie. One thing that remains consistent with that round is that it is very durable and requires good velocity to expand reliably. You can watch dozens of videos showing it working as advertized. I would just caution any buyer that you want at least a 4in barrel. It seems like regardless of caliber, under 4in is iffy at best.

@JohnDoeEagle1

Жыл бұрын

Bullsh*t....more people have been shot with snubnose J-Frame .38 Specials than all of the 9mms combined. Where do you guys get your intell from if I may ask?! Look elsewhere next time!

@ryanweiss1721

Жыл бұрын

@John Doe I was specifically referring to the construction of the XTP bullet. There are dozens of videos you can find on KZread. However, one of my favorite sources is Lucky Gunner Labs. They have tested tons of different bullets. They have some of the best testing I have seen from a non-official source. Since you brought up the example of a snub nose revolver, I recommend you look at their revolver testing. Specifically, look at their 38spl 125 grain Hornady XTP through a 2in barrel.

@JohnDoeEagle1

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanweiss1721 I "recommend" you stop using ballistic gel tests to be the definitive answer on everything and look into REAL shooting involving human flesh, bones and loss of lives.

@ryanweiss1721

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoeEagle1 Do you have any REAL examples of the XTP bullet being fired a barrel shorter than 4 inches?

@JohnDoeEagle1

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanweiss1721 I have shot them out of a Kahr MK9 all stainless, GLOCK G43, Sig Sauer P-365 9mms. I have shot .40 S&W out of a GLOCK G27. They were very accurate and shot well. I loaded them myself using Alliant Power Pistol in both calibers. I have some in .45 ACP I am going to try in Colt Defender and Kimber Ultra Carry II 1911s in the near future. I expect them to be extremely accurate out of those as well. Hornady holds very tight tolerances both in dimensions and weight. Doesn't really matter how they expand in ballistic gel when some tactitard mallninja shoots them. If they blow straight through your heart or eye socket. Accuracy is king when it comes to precision bullets.

Great video please try some 110 grain .300 Blackout from AAC it's decent I picked up a half a case from PSA

They also are priced well on 9mm 147 grain and 300 Blackout Hopefully you can try how quiet the 147 is : )

Very helpful video

@Mrgunsngear

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful

Thank you!

I just bought some at a Palmetto State Armory store. Just awesome prices

Xtp is the best pistol bullet in my opinion, it’s in all my carry guns. I’ve also dropped several deer in their tracks with a .44 cal xtp

I really like AAC ammo. The practice 124, XTP 125s, 110 300BLK Vmax. Prices are great. Ammo is great.

either load would work well thanks Mike.

Dude the AAC 77gr OTM is legit in 5.56 also!

I think AAC is great ammo for anything you want to use them for.

Thank you.

I tried the xtp's years ago out of my Colt Python with a 6" barrel. I loaded 125 gr. and 158 gr. bullets and could not get them to open up like yours did. I tried various loads also with same results. Might as well been shooting ball ammo.

Not bad, but I'll stick to my fortScott's munitions TUIs.

Well hell yeah

....It'll do. I've bought a couple thousand AAC rounds. I've not had any real issues with them. They are great when they hit a sale, but even when not on sale, $0.26 / rd. for FMJ, and $0.50 / rd. for HP's isn't a horrible price considering they run just fine. You could spend a bit more and still do worse. So as I said, it'll do...

Nice

Have you shot "Federal Hydra-Shok Deep"? Expanded with denim and hit FBI penetration on a few channels even in .380. Seems impressive.

I'll stick with Gold Dots and HST.

@survivetheattack

Жыл бұрын

Ya, me to. There's a good reason why it makes sense to only carry FBI cert ammo; barriers!

Would like the 16 inch barrel test on the ammo

4" barrel XTP 115gr = 13.25" avg XTP 124gr = 14.75" avg

Just wish they were in +p... might be a good round to stock for SHTF, but for everyday carry in WROL I think I'll just keeping buying hornady +p ammo.

How about a battle of the EXTERNAL HOLLOW POINTS next? (Radial fluted bullets) Underwood Xtreme Defender, penetrator, Black Hills HoneyBadger and Inceptor ARX, G9, NovX Engagement Extreme, etc...

wish he had time to go Into zeros and what he like and uses it what cases compared to others taking height over bore into consideration as well

Just wanted to say Fort Scott for the win lol

They should make them with the 147gr XTP bullets as well.

Any reason you don't do the denim test? Also personal preference i'd like to see a series with micro 9's and the next bigger size. I feel like that is what most people are carrying most of the year.

Waiting for AAC to make steel case 762. Fingers crossed an American company makes accessible ak rounds

@dougpulliam5109

Жыл бұрын

Why would you want steel cased? Brass 7.62 is not good?

@CiviTac

7 ай бұрын

@@contractor556 I’ll believe it when I see it

been wondering about the IMI 9mm hollow points

Hopefully AAC starts offering a few nickel plated carry defense offerings.

Sir could you possibly do a review of RUGERS SFAR IN .308 if you haven’t done so yet. I thank you for your time.

how do they react at 3-5 yds? closer encounter. thanks for the vid

XTP's are Top 3 Best bullets you could possibly have

Thanks for the videos. If it’s possible in the future, could you use a gun with roughly a 3 inch barrel? That type of ballistic testing is sorely missing from being out there from what I can tell, and most people buy shield, P365, Hellcat sized guns with that barrel length for carry.

@daviddavidson9923

Жыл бұрын

No

I love aac. For what it is 7:19 I use it

I am curious, what do you use for personal defense

Mike Thumb says to just use regular ball ammo.

You don't need Gold dot to stop someone 😂

While testing, did you run into hard primers? I bought a bunch of this ammo and had a lot of hard primers using several different pistols. Sorry, I was firing AAC 124 gr ball ammo.

While not a factor if your attacker is naked, unfortunately most bad guys are wearing clothes. So these (like any other) "hollow" hollow point can suffer from clogging when shot through clothes. This clogging delays or even prevents expansion. That's why the HPs that are filled with a polymer (Critical Defense) are what's needed for serious social work. Winchester recently joined that class with their USA Ready line.

@Lucas12v

Жыл бұрын

There are many proven hp's that perform well against clothing without any type of plug. Not saying that the plug/tip is a bad idea, just that it's not the only viable option.

Can you test this brand ammo in 55 grain vmax?

I keep reading that XTP is also a good round to hunt with. But I'm seeing penetration tests that are pretty close to the HST bullet. I can't seem to really tell a difference in tests.

Definitely needs to be mo spicy. In my opinion there is no reason not to load 9mm to 390+ ftlbs. Preferably between 400-420 ftlbs. However, it looks like those rounds will get the job done, and it's cheaper than the winchester white box JHPs.

is that the deep sea?

🎉

I need a 147 since my HD pistol is suppressed

@Mrgunsngear

Жыл бұрын

noted

So the bullet out of a shorter barrel gives more penetration? Why is that? I’d figure more speed would give more penetration.

I got some High Sierra ammo not long ago at Academy, I knew they made bullets but not the loaded cartridges. They were priced well, does anyone have experience with the 9mm loads? I think Paul Harrell did a review recently but it was the .380 caliber stuff.

@charlesackley1988

Жыл бұрын

Those Sierra 9mm jhp have poor expansion.

@BrassBashers

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesackley1988 thanks! As long as they go BANG they can still be useful in my inventory!

@MeMadeIt

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesackley1988 yeah, there's a reason Sierras are on clearance for $9 box.

DO THEY MAKE 10MM

Ammunition and the firearm itself are two areas I do not even look at "budget" ANYTHING. 🙄 115-grain is just a range round to start with. My EDC has 16-rounds of Black Talon SXT 147-grain hollow points. 😶

@tylerwill5250

Жыл бұрын

Have fun trying to argue using black talons for self defense in court. They will label you as someone just lookin to kill because of that bullets stigma

@Harley.Davidson

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerwill5250 🤣 They just renamed them and still sold under new names 🤔

I saw vid on another channel where they had lots of light primer strikes with this ammo. Just saying 😑

🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲

It's decent ammo not no hst tho

Wait...more velocity equals less penetration? I was thinking the opposite.

@ironikpanda

Жыл бұрын

If the mass is the same you'd be correct. Lower grain bullets are faster but the bullet is lighter and has less mass. You can't see it because the bullets are different lengths essentially.

@johnmoore8067

Жыл бұрын

The same bullet pushed at a higher speed CAN penetrate less, yes. If the higher velocity causes it to expand to a larger diameter it will not penetrate as far. Same energy cutting a larger hole = less depth.

Did i miss the test?

@joshuagibson2520

Жыл бұрын

Are you high?

Thanks Mr. G&G. Great job. Good info. God bless. LETS GO BRANDON

@2a_all_day125

Жыл бұрын

FJB

That website don't work.

Stack em DEEP boys

Are you sponsored to test these? Asking for obvious reasons. Im interested in economical carry rounds

@MeMadeIt

Жыл бұрын

You're willing to risk your life to save a few $$$? Economics is for Range ammo. Defense is worth every penny for Premium ammo. You can get 9mm 115 and 124 range ammo for less than $0.30 per round. Use the money you save there to buy Gold Dot and HST for carry.

@psubond

Жыл бұрын

@@MeMadeIt if the rounds go bang every time and travel at correct speed then the bullet is all that matters and i like XTPs. You buy what you like I'll buy what i like

@psubond

Жыл бұрын

@@MeMadeIt i use my carry rounds as range rounds as well. Why shoot 115 fmj at the range and carry JHP and expect the POI to be the same?

I shot 500 rounds no hiccups

More velocity doesnt equal more penetration? Interesting.

@craigmyers5569

Жыл бұрын

Usually more velocity equals quicker expansion which reduces penetration.

@joshuagibson2520

Жыл бұрын

Yeas what Craig said and also bullet weight has bearing on how it all works out as well.

@theMadhatter817

Жыл бұрын

Make sense.

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You should never use a budget option for carry ammo

@timunderbakke8756

Жыл бұрын

You shouldn’t until you cannot afford otherwise. This may be a good compromise for “stock up” ammo even if it’s not frontline ammo in your edc

@tylerwill5250

Жыл бұрын

You’re flat out wrong @talix Have you not watched some of the cheaper remington htp and especially WWB hp gel test? And this is a step up. Whois on the receiving end is not going to care how much the bullet cost, if you did your part.

Freedom munitions have 50 round; 115 grain XTP boxes for $22.99. Essentially the same price. You can also get their XDEF 147 grain hollow points in a 50 round box for $24.56 a box.

@2heavyb517

Жыл бұрын

their ammo is crap. bad primers, out of spec OAL etc.. out of 6 boxes 115, 124, 147 all had multiple malfunctions. loaded up some S & B and gun worked flawless. cheap for a reason

I think these should all be with a sweatshirt layer in front of block for realistic hood rat performance!

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