A Very Bad Estimator (with Donald Knuth) - Numberphile Podcast

Donald Knuth is unquestionably a legend of computer science and mathematics - but he is bad at estimation and grew up with a “rhinoceros attitude”.
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  • @kenchilton
    @kenchilton4 ай бұрын

    I have heard two uses of a "rhinocerous attitude". One definition is an attitude of charging in before knowing all the facts. It is a tendency to attack a problem first and deal with the details or consequences later. It is the character belonging to the first to jump to action, following the call to “do it first, apologize later” or “it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.” The other definition is an attitude of resiliency, a persistence and will to succeed in face of seemingly insurmountable challenges. It is a confident attitude that can not accept the phrase ”it cannot be done”. I have been accused of both of these rhinoceros attitudes. Nice to hear from Don Knuth again. Peace and grace, sir.

  • @brianonuanain7535
    @brianonuanain75354 ай бұрын

    Brilliant interview. Knuth is a gift to humanity and Brady is a gift to journalism.

  • @MonsieurBiga
    @MonsieurBiga4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for TeX bro

  • @arthurdepina
    @arthurdepina4 ай бұрын

    What a treat! Professor Knuth is such a gem.

  • @sudhanvasapre5171
    @sudhanvasapre51714 ай бұрын

    Oh what a joy to have stumbled upon this interview! I guess I HAVE to check the rest out now too!

  • @davidschilling132
    @davidschilling1324 ай бұрын

    Fantastic interview. Wish there was more of it! I've been waiting for you to interview Donald Knuth for years!

  • @neminho6070
    @neminho60704 ай бұрын

    Those were some great questions, you can tell even Knuth was impressed. Great job!

  • @jacksnoeyink8153
    @jacksnoeyink81534 ай бұрын

    So great to hear this interview and recognize that Don Knuth is still as sharp and well-spoken as ever.

  • @AdvancedMath
    @AdvancedMath4 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I have been waiting for a new podcast anxiously.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr94664 ай бұрын

    You find such INTERESTING people to talk to. Thank you.

  • @Ceelvain
    @Ceelvain4 ай бұрын

    I don't usually listen to podcasts because they are too long. But this one with Donald Knuth, I couldn't pass.

  • @thomasmeslin8399
    @thomasmeslin83994 ай бұрын

    Omg that was so good ❤ I love this man Don ❤❤

  • @kekohokko7213
    @kekohokko72134 ай бұрын

    Nice interview. The Windows 95 screensaver video was a riot, by which I mean it was violent and chaotic.

  • @RhapsodyAfternoon
    @RhapsodyAfternoon4 ай бұрын

    wonderful interview!

  • @danielbriggs991
    @danielbriggs9914 ай бұрын

    20:00 I was waiting for him to talk about his graphs of square root functions! It's so cool.

  • @andrewdunbar828
    @andrewdunbar8284 ай бұрын

    The best Knuth interview I've ever heard! (But please recommend others you think are as good or better.)

  • @L13832
    @L138324 ай бұрын

    Man I love your podcast just hoped they would be longer 2-3 hrs

  • @xyz.ijk.
    @xyz.ijk.4 ай бұрын

    That was fantastic.

  • @peterfireflylund
    @peterfireflylund4 ай бұрын

    I'm so looking forward to hearing this tomorrow -- need to get some sleep first, sigh.

  • @xl000
    @xl0004 ай бұрын

    I just ordered Knuth 4.b aka combinatorial algorithms vol 2

  • @ArnimSommer
    @ArnimSommer4 ай бұрын

    So - does he sometimes spell his middle initial \Epsilon (because he can)?

  • @persistenthomology
    @persistenthomology4 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @paulf5351
    @paulf53514 ай бұрын

    in the 1970s I spent a long time implementing the normalizing divide . I could shift over up to five leading zeroes after a subtract iteration. I made five bit slice shifter subtractor in s 244 two input nand gate array.

  • @scottdrake5159
    @scottdrake51594 ай бұрын

    This has been the most inspiring and revealing interview I've ever heard. By "revealing", I mean about life and the wider universe. Stunned. Thank you so much.

  • @keevee09
    @keevee094 ай бұрын

    Don is a diamond gem.

  • @necropola
    @necropola4 ай бұрын

    I was already out of my mind after seeing who is on the podcast today! I adore this man.

  • @sthelenskungfu
    @sthelenskungfu4 ай бұрын

    As a person of faith, I would love to hear more interviews with smart people of faith and how it has impacted their academic career. His comments about feeling like he had to defend himself saying that he's not one of the crack pots on Christian TV was very interesting.

  • @rstone770

    @rstone770

    4 ай бұрын

    This seems like seeking confirmation for your beliefs, which I feel is the exact antithesis of faith.

  • @sthelenskungfu

    @sthelenskungfu

    4 ай бұрын

    @@rstone770 In what way?

  • @doctoreggman21

    @doctoreggman21

    4 ай бұрын

    @@rstone770 no, that’s ridiculous. Many people believe that one cannot be both a man of science and a man of faith, but clearly that’s not the case, because there are many smart men who are both

  • @TeslasMoustache419

    @TeslasMoustache419

    4 ай бұрын

    You're in good company, the smartest scientists, philosophers, composers etc... who ever lived were devout Christians.

  • @danielbriggs991

    @danielbriggs991

    4 ай бұрын

    My dad introduced me to videos of Dr. John Lennox, group theorist at Oxford.

  • @morkmon
    @morkmon4 ай бұрын

    what a legend

  • @varunachar87
    @varunachar874 ай бұрын

    Too busy tripping on the WordArt and retro Windows screensavers to pay attention to the conversation.

  • @fragglet
    @fragglet4 ай бұрын

    Golden ratio base ("phinary") is an interesting number system he didn't mention

  • @rchandraonline
    @rchandraonline4 ай бұрын

    A lot of people want to pronounce the "g" in Kernighan too, which, if I understand correctly, it's silent. (as in, the coauthor of The C Programming Language)

  • @mellertid
    @mellertid4 ай бұрын

    Hmm, on ChatGpt being better at writing than its training data... I recall a finding that a large number of estimates (how many peas in the jar style) make a quite good average, even if some guessed are terrible. This kind of effect doesn't always happen, but it does seem to in some cases. Early innoceent Twitter was understood as a flow of each message flawed and insignificant but with the emergent effect of insight (something like that), A common comment on at least some AI is that we really don't understand it fully. Something can, it seems, happen at a certain scale that isn't obvious beforehand, the philosophy of quantity vs quality is not settled. 🤔

  • @Ceelvain

    @Ceelvain

    4 ай бұрын

    This effect is known as the "wisdom of the crowd". Although, let's not forget the reinforcement from human feedbacks that participated in its training.

  • @woobilicious.
    @woobilicious.4 ай бұрын

    Thanks Don for giving us the love-to-hate Tex language lol.

  • @DitDede
    @DitDede4 ай бұрын

    Surreal numbers 😊

  • @MotoLen51
    @MotoLen514 ай бұрын

    The faith part just killed me.

  • @doctoreggman21
    @doctoreggman214 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, the inventor of the arrow notation.

  • @thenoobalmighty8790

    @thenoobalmighty8790

    4 ай бұрын

    Arrow notation???

  • @curtiswfranks

    @curtiswfranks

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@thenoobalmighty8790: Such as n ↑↑ m = n^(n^( … ^(n) …)), where there are m "n"s.

  • @mellertid

    @mellertid

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​@@thenoobalmighty8790Numberphile covers it in some Grahams' number videos! 👍

  • @R3cce

    @R3cce

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mellertid Up arrows is actually not enough to describe how big TREE(3) really is.

  • @mellertid

    @mellertid

    4 ай бұрын

    @@R3cce How cool is that! I'll put it in my random facts drawer 😎

  • @user-jc2lz6jb2e
    @user-jc2lz6jb2e4 ай бұрын

    WHEN ARE YOU FINISHING TAOCP, KNUTH?

  • @bazsnell3178

    @bazsnell3178

    4 ай бұрын

    He finished it many years ago. For those baffled, TAOCP refers to his magnum opus, The Art Of Computer Programming.

  • @peterfireflylund

    @peterfireflylund

    4 ай бұрын

    @@bazsnell3178He is still not done with volume 4! He has published 4A and 4B but he plans to also publish 4C, 4D, 4E, and 4F... and volume 5 in 2030 :)

  • @draido-dev

    @draido-dev

    4 ай бұрын

    @@peterfireflylund wrong, he clearly said in 4A that E & F "for sure" won't exist and even C & D weren't promised

  • @Mik1604
    @Mik16044 ай бұрын

    Funny how he is drawn to the absolute certainty you get in math and computer science, while also holding strong religious beliefs.

  • @zathrasyes1287

    @zathrasyes1287

    4 ай бұрын

    It's natural to be religious, when beeing strong in math and science.

  • @TesterAnimal1

    @TesterAnimal1

    4 ай бұрын

    A hero of mine. His algorithms book was on my desk a lot when I worked on compilers and run times.

  • @thomasmeslin8399
    @thomasmeslin83994 ай бұрын

    Omg Donald Knuth

  • @leobrouk
    @leobrouk4 ай бұрын

    The video part is a complete waste of traffic. Please use static images instead.

  • @travisporco
    @travisporco4 ай бұрын

    wow

  • @milanmasat8248
    @milanmasat82484 ай бұрын

    I am not sure that I am the only one, but the old win screensaver (labyrinth) is making me sick. Literally, it triggers my motion sickness. If there is more people like that, can you avoid it in future posts, please?

  • @nnm35

    @nnm35

    4 ай бұрын

    Agree, I've had to stop watching. Why ????

  • @robertolson7304
    @robertolson73044 ай бұрын

    I love how old people think. Today i can not trust what people say. New people say one thing but mean another all the time. Its like a sickness or something..

  • @Mj323_bb
    @Mj323_bb4 ай бұрын

    As always, I love the content .. but the video background on this one triggers my "bad/dangerous video" reflex, and I am only moderately sensitive to such problems, so I'd request that you change it. Sorry to have to report that

  • @finlayson

    @finlayson

    4 ай бұрын

    The video really doesn't add anything to this; it's really just an audio interview. I suggest listening to the (audio) podcast instead

  • @nazrat3747

    @nazrat3747

    4 ай бұрын

    What do you mean by bad/dangerous and how did you develop this reflex?

  • @elago98
    @elago984 ай бұрын

    Hope you didn't have a streak of toothpaste on your face this time Brady

  • @loislane5092
    @loislane50924 ай бұрын

    Strange world. Here I am sitting, working on a ca. 500 page critical edition of 18th century German manuscripts for a publisher, using TeX to do so, and listening to Donald Knuth on the internet. Full circle. Btw, TeX is not only for math books or physical science papers. It would be such a shame and a waste to reduce it to that, as is often done. ETA: Apropos ChatGpt, I posed it a slightly advanced TeX/LaTeX problem once, just out of curiosity, and it failed miserably. No matter how I worded the problem, the code it returned was always utter nonsense.

  • @highlewelt9471
    @highlewelt94714 ай бұрын

    First

  • @YuTv1408
    @YuTv14084 ай бұрын

    Godfather???... never heard if him. ... You Mean Alan Turing...not this old geezer... ridiculous podcast

  • @manuelg758

    @manuelg758

    4 ай бұрын

    Google TeX or LaTeX

  • @MrMctastics

    @MrMctastics

    4 ай бұрын

    Turing is better because he was never an old geezer?

  • @francisvaughan7460

    @francisvaughan7460

    4 ай бұрын

    If you have never heard of him, you know squat about computer science. Godfather is a very apt name. Turing, Babbage, Von Neumann, all made important contributions in the genesis of computers. But Don is a one off who casts a long shadow.