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Hamster's editting is on point as usual today
@VictorF0326
2 жыл бұрын
He must be held hostage in a basement 'cause damn that's a lot of info to get together.
@bencheevers6693
2 жыл бұрын
Harstem and Hamster were made for each other, like you don't hear Hamster's literal voice very often like we do here but he very fundamentally understands Harstem and his humour knows what to put on screen and when and together they make a fantastic end product
@allanturmaine5496
2 жыл бұрын
3 cheers for the editor!
Tbh that single reaper hitting the third base three times saved the terran. Fear the reaper man
Amazing reaper trick shot at 3:42 , after being launched into the air by the reaper grenade, the drone didn't even land before being blasted into pink mist.
@shadowling77777
Жыл бұрын
MOM GET THE CAMERA
16:48 Well I think terran is OP if they're capable of droning, workering and scving up all at the same time.
@LEpigeon888
2 жыл бұрын
Zergs can do that with neural parasite.
@HENTAICOMBO
Жыл бұрын
@@LEpigeon888 evidence that zerg is imba
I wonder if what happened here was that the Zerg really thought that Terran was finished and so they didn't really focus on eco-ing up after that initial successful attack - instead kept thinking they could just finish them off with another push until they realized it was too late. Terran recovered back up to 60 scvs really quick while the zerg stayed on 45. Happens to me a lot - I often underestimate how hard it can be to finish off a Terran.
@Jordan-Ramses
2 жыл бұрын
I like how they have bases right next to each other with no defense and neither player is aware of the enemy base. That is some high level StarCraft.
HAHAHAHA, that reaper is a Hero to his colony and the entire human race!
@Leonardodeboni0406
2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that there were already 2 hydras there
You may not be Renaldo, maybe not even the Renaldo of Starcraft. But you are in the top 40 in the world of a game played by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. You beat grandmasters with memes and jokes. I think you have quite a bit of authority on what works and doesn't in this game.
@lurchgurk7824
2 жыл бұрын
its ronaldo not renaldo ...
@JarmamStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Or, you know, at least.... a few thousand
@thereaperSC2
2 жыл бұрын
@@JarmamStuff but if you think how insanely high the skill bar of starcraft is right now, present harstem would poop in the head of most of the past top tier pro player in their prime, adding up the total of player that ever played the game in 12+ years, well we can easily reach the million
@deejayppaul
2 жыл бұрын
Renaldo hahaahahahahahahahahahahah
@Gaylent
2 жыл бұрын
@@lurchgurk7824 he's saying it with harstem's accent
It's a true pleasure to watch harstem slowly transform into angry coach 2 lmao
@MultiChrisjb
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like that one broke him when he started going on about soccer.
Hydralisk: a Zerg unit with a powerful active ability called “morph into lurkers”. Doesn’t seem to be good at anything else tho
@alexangel4141
2 жыл бұрын
Hydras are still really good backline support units, DPS pumping machines. But you really only ever want about 8-14 of them at any given time. They just arent meant to be the main army of a zerg in sc2 the way they were in brood war.
@patximartel
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexangel4141 if terran goes mech/air with low count or no tanks hydras are pretty good. But you obviously need the range and speed upgrade and good creep spread
@alexangel4141
2 жыл бұрын
@@patximartel yes, hydras do well, but if terran goes air, corruptors do what hydras do but better, and if theres no tanks or low tank count then well, roach/ravager/infester do what hydras do in that situation but better
@alexangel4141
2 жыл бұрын
@@patximartel for 400/200, you can get either 4 hydras, or 4 roaches and one ravager. In almost every situation against Terran ground mech, the 4 roaches one ravager are better, not to mention less investment needed in terms of upgrades.
@AAhmou
2 жыл бұрын
Chad SC1 Hydra vs virgin SC2 Hydra.
15:53 Maybe the balance complaint should have been "F2" is imba, whenever i use it it gives my opponent the edge or makes them outright win the game!
Absolutely brutal, yet totally warranted. Hope you get some quality replays in the future, as this sounded like it frustrated you a lot. It didn't feel good to watch you get legitimately annoyed, but you made me laugh with your roasts, as always. Thank you for the video once again. Best wishes.
Thanks for the little cutaway segment Hamster. I saw the movement on the minimap but had no idea what was happening. Should have figured it was a typical F2.
@hamster_designs
2 жыл бұрын
At the end of this segment I was just wondering "Wait, didn't he idle like all his army below the ramps? What happened there?" and it took me a little to figure it out myself xD
17:50 Also in Solar's Rank Roulette, the Zerg player getting destroyed in Roach vs. Cyclone who got the burrow upgrade instead of speed increase...yeah that was me.
@henryviiifake8244
2 жыл бұрын
"You know, I'm something of a celebrity myself 😎"
press f to pay respect to Harstem that sacrifice his iq, sanity and brain cells to review our garbage plays
@victornunes9845
2 жыл бұрын
You're assuming Harstem had any of these at some point...
@dj_koen1265
2 жыл бұрын
He plays protoss after all/s
@ppjerry420
2 жыл бұрын
@@victornunes9845 Aww did he touch you in your sensitive spot?
@bjornprompeler9424
2 жыл бұрын
F
@jimmyboe889
2 жыл бұрын
F XD
I honestly wonder if they're even still sincere. It seems to me a lot of people don't send you replays because they actually think anything is imba, but because they want to watch you roast them for their worst games.
@ernestorodriguez2404
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I want that
@chloesmith4065
8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile i lose ZvT with 6 bases vs 2 bases and don't complain about it let alone send in a replay
Poor Harstem, getting broken by people pooping themselves. Hang in there, buddy! ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
2 depots? Now that's an obvious tell for BC.
Lowko just posted a great viewer game where zerglings beat void rays… maybe the Zerg was inspired by that!
@Claymanation
2 жыл бұрын
I always laugh at the viewer games, until I realize I’m still in Silver and probably do even more dumb things
@colossaldonut5190
2 жыл бұрын
Alarak still has nightmares when he thinks of that match. The Zerg jumping up and chewing on their ships.
@wickedAberration
2 жыл бұрын
@@Claymanation Don't fret. The stupid things you do might be less interesting.
@Leonardodeboni0406
2 жыл бұрын
@@colossaldonut5190 they still have lil sonha, y'know? Hahahaha
Honestly think archons should have been in the expensive unit list moredo than voidrays. Their total resources add up the same, but archons cost gas rather than minerals and gas. And gas is so valuable
"I've been doing this for 2 years", "it's like people aren't listening"... You need to talk to winter lol
To think that instead of taking out starport tech labs, Zerg could destroy fusion lab that was researching yamato at the time with his roach ling attack... With no money and no SCVs, terran would be stuck with 2 BCs with no yamato guns for a long time.
@chloesmith4065
8 ай бұрын
Yeah agreed and then this gives the zerg time to get a spire
Queens can dodge Yamato by jumping into a overlord, nydus, or by burrowing. I don’t know about the other methods but burrowing actually puts it on CD which is amazing. I think it’s totally worth the gas and hatchery time if your opponent gets Yamato. You can also pre burrow your drones. They either waste scans meaning less mules or they can’t kill anything.
@chloesmith4065
8 ай бұрын
Dodging Yamato with burrow feels so good
oh god i love grumpy Hartsem , the 2 min Rant at the start got me crying! :D love it
It's always amazing how these players can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
First time I've seen one of these videos, crazy good edits with the cards an additional info, really looking forward to watching some more! Great job! Edit: the comparisson between Cristiano Ronaldo and you was just the cherry on top, never laughed so hard watching a sc2 replay.
@stewarttrench528
2 жыл бұрын
I'm jealous that you have the back catalogue unseen! Check out the playlist
@Neoplasie1900
2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't watched that series yet and are about to, get your mind ready for the best comparisons in the history of keyboard-assisted tool use.
Never played a single game in SC2, but I absolutely love this channel, especially these IODIS videos. To save me some time, was there ever an episode, where something was IMBA? I watched so far like 15 random videos, everyone sucked there. Thanks
@zhengyuni5977
2 жыл бұрын
No, that is the point. Nothing is truly imba and there is always room for improvements.
@0815Snickersboy
2 жыл бұрын
time to install the game now
@Leonardodeboni0406
2 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyuni5977 i think he one time Said " If you Said (.....) Might bê imba i would agree" dont remember exactly what it was
@MrSkarlowy
2 жыл бұрын
There was one from way back, a ZvP where the protoss went for skytoss. He said that it was indeed very close to imba and very difficult to deal with, something like that.
@basicuser54
2 жыл бұрын
Starcraft2 is one of man’s greatest creations when you consider how balanced it is while having three completely different races. Exquisite
That middle managers burn was 👌 Well done Mr. Harstem!
Immortals actually cost 275/100 which should technically put them in 10th position, in front of the void rays, as they have the same supply cost (4)
@MaximusLongus
2 жыл бұрын
Archons also are up there, using 4 supply and either 250/250, 175/275 or 100/300 - costing much more total ressorces and gas than both an Immortal or a Void Ray.
any ability that can oneshot a zergling is imba and needs a nerf. if a zergling doesn't win against a BC it is unfair.
@nikokiko47
2 жыл бұрын
thank you captain obvious
@zerglinglover2303
Жыл бұрын
@@nikokiko47 so you don't know what captain obvious means
Harstem, GSL Finals game 3 and 7. You need to watch these two. Amazing games that will make you question everything you once knew.
he was hoping the anti air would be enough already and the lings were to counter the thors... but in the end this is a story of someone who thought his opponent was dead due to a lack of scouting not realising that the one who was dead was himself.
Hamster adding to the salt! Quite wholesome!
@hamster_designs
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a little paradox xD
@potenviking
2 жыл бұрын
@@hamster_designs some tribe cultures (including ours) have rituals of belittling their peers to make sure they never develop pride and the process of adding "salt" is viewed as wholesome bonding by the community. ;d Next time the boy would be by our side and would say to himself - ha, this next guy really sucks! Look at him F2ing all his unites into those lurkers! I would have never done that! Yet he will. And thats the magic of it.
16 lings vs BC was just an F2 abuse. Good advise for starting players would be just to disable F2 in the menu.
Strong open with the rant against queens. Could almost say they are... IMBA?
Ah I've been waiting for another IMBA, def my fav series :)
23:30 I don't trust my hydras to work when I'm not watching because I don't pay them enough.
Dude, I love your sense of humor and analogies. So glad I started playing this game, otherwise I would have never found your channel.
Another reason why Infestors would be good is because of Fungal Growth, which would aid in catching the BCs before they can jump. But I guess spelll casters just don't exist outside of mid masters.
"I know that my early game was less then medioker and my response was rather bad" This should be good lmao
@lolgorwow
2 жыл бұрын
At least he has a little self awareness
When you mentioned the Lowko episode, I had to hold onto my table to not fall out of my chair.
Was there ever a balance complaint in a mirror matchup? I wonder why
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804
2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar thought, I don't think that would work. If it did happen it would be confusing and weird to watch. It'd be fun to watch though.
@Leonardodeboni0406
2 жыл бұрын
Dont know If It is a serious question but... You cant argue that terran is imba because It washed the ground with you when you are playing terran and could do exactly the same thing. The absolute problem is when you find yourself in a mirror match of any kind, you clean all variables and what you have left is your failure with no Space for complain
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804
2 жыл бұрын
@@Leonardodeboni0406 Legitimately sound logic.
That drone at 3:45 just got sniped in the air, and you didn't even mention it :(
I actually laughed out loud at "Queens have infinite HP"
I literally watched the opening part 10 times, your videos are amazing , keep it up man
one thing that never sucks in those videos are hamsters edits
Best Harstem analogy of the day was about the hydras getting smoked.
I love harstem's little skits where he pretends to be other people. He does a great hamster impression at 15:53
Watching transfuses off creep makes me nostalgic. I was super confused as to why this guy was queen-walking without creep, but this is before that change happened. Wild stuff to see.
came here for an IODIS. Learned during the first 2 minutes, that harstem seems to believe queens are imba. guys! get on the case! Submit IODIS forms about queens!
@PenguinIceDelta
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he thinks they're broken, but due to zerg lack of reliable anti-air in the early game they're too relied upon. They're zerg's macro mechanic. If Zerg's macro mechanic was hatchery based it would be very broken. Injects would essentially be 2 key presses for all hatcheries (select all-hatchery control group > select inject) vs 4 per 1 hatchery (camera > select queen > select inject larva > select hatchery to inject). Zerg macro mechanic needs to be mobile for creep maintenance, so they have sufficient warning to react to an incoming attack (react race). If you remove the queen something would need to be provided that can fill its role sufficiently as a hatchery tech anti-air.
I love my 4;47 BC rush. It's not invincible but damn is it fun xD
"sometimes it's like you guys aren't listening" xD
how the heck did this guy get to 3500mmr? he's got to be lying
Well, hydralisks alone are not even cost effective vs BCs, so making hydras against BCs without any kind of support like infestor/viper is quite bad.
There is one simple thing the most lower league players tend to forget: Starcraft is about destroying structures and then units if it's winnable.
@Leonardodeboni0406
2 жыл бұрын
Its hard tô remember when most games GG after losing an army :l /s
was just on an IODIS marathon, could not have come at a better time.
about minute 8 he has 0 workers, but at about 11:30 he surpassed the zergs worker count ^^
Harstem tilting on behalf of terrans. Am I dreaming? Maybe our fellow captain is a little high after Zest smashed the competition today in GSL, and finally brought a W for protoss...
Hamster the emoji's editing was Omega funny. Wp
The Voice of Hamster!
15:00 that reaper is really heavy supply
'People will work when nobody is watching ' - you should meet my coworkers... Love the sass, though
If you have a 20 minute game, and you don't get to hive, you may be doing it wrong. A good rule of thumb is to get spellcasters at every level: queens, infestors, and vipers. I often skip infestors, but you need some aoe vs swarmy boyz like mass lings, marines, or zealots.
This is why Winter has the 3 strike way of judging replays
The game with the voids and hydras, happened on the opposite side of this map
29:30 I will suggest a different example xDDDD you want to be good at football, you spend your whole day practicing pushup with fingertip.....xDDDD
How much I love when he roasts a complain at the beginning, with that sarcasm that everybody loves hahaha
Queens are the only unit that shoots up before lair, which is when BC hits. I understand serral can defend this without any loss. But at lower leagues, like low masters which I’m in. I always lose several queens, a dozen drones, a dead spore with the BC just jump back then repaired.
Nice Lowko burn at the end of the video Harstem. 😂
the implicit balance complain from you, saying: "6 queens gets you to diamond". It is indeed funny. It's even more so given you play toss :D :D :D Thanks for IODIS, has made my days lately!
The 2 base roach wall off is a build made by vibe for his bronze to GM. The idea is that you block the hellions especially at lower leagues where you can’t handle them as well. It’s sort of his catch all build for metal league zergs looking to get better. It’s not at all meant to stop a reaper. So this is a little dishonest. Now I want to be clear he isn’t executing the roach wall off build perfectly. Pretty sure you only get 1 gas in the main lol and you only take two more gases once your nat is basically droned and your ready to build your safety roaches plus start your +1 and roach speed (lair taken with first 100 gas). This build provides a sharp roach timing of like 14ish roaches that kills alot of zergs but many other lower leagues players.
The Ronaldo analogy had me dying man 🤣 it's soooo f***ing accurate. The last time I played SC, SC2 was only a rumour, I'm now 30. EVEN back then, I'd not have even ONCE considered throwing ling's at BCs 🤣 The only reason that would've been useful is if he's sent the ling's in AHEAD of the hydras, to "soak* the fire while the hydras drop the BCs...the problem with that strategy is ling's die just as quickly as hydras here so...yeah, silly move 🤣 definitely pooped himself and slipped 🤣
This vid was sent to test Harstem's patience. A massive trolling xD Great video man!
the fact that this man is in diamond is a testament to the imbaness of zerg, not terran. roach pushes are strong, specially in NA diamond ladder, where no one knows how to scout
Appreciated the explanation on where the roaches went!
to be fair the almost instant teleport on battlecruisers is lorewise extremely stupid.... protoss lived thousands of years to develop their warp technology which takes a few seconds to work and terran just invent the half second teleport wherever they want *facepalm*
@thereaperSC2
2 жыл бұрын
and also invincible during the channeling o.o
The Ronaldo analogy made me cry... Thank for that!
That Queen rant had me in tears of joy. You were talking about the band, right?
Sick Lowko burn at the end. Had me laughing^^
Ok even when I was playing SC2 back in the day, I wouldn't use queens as tools of attacking the enemy with, I would keep them at home popping larva on my hatcheries and perhaps this was just me, but I would always try to keep my queen count equal to the amount of hatcheries (and this included micro hatcheries) so there would be one queen per hatchery.
Just became a Patreon supporter! Keep it up man!!
@llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll
2 жыл бұрын
yessssss
30:00 You're definitely saying you're Ronaldo 🤣
you can start to feel harstem slowly get more and more (actually) pissed off. stay strong man.
infestor + hydra is awesome vs air... the neuro and the swarm thing is rly strong and he has 2-2 upgrades ahead to 0-0
I can feel Harstems genuine frustration here.
"But then the unthinkable happened!" Lol nice Hamster
Hydras are my favorite unit, have been since SC1. Even so, I would never go hydras to answer battlecruisers
Harsh dump on Loko there at the end. :-D
The guy should have got a spire as soon as he saw the fission core/bc's
The solo reaper bit gave me a good laugh
*"SIIIIIUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!"*
LOL The emoji face on the queen killed me!
Hamster catching Harstem on his miss
@aarongazzaniga1929
2 жыл бұрын
🤣 the lowko iodis reference
Personal opinion: The Zerg WAS actually the better player, but a bunch of serious misplays, which were clearly the result of nervousness and panic lost him the game. Seriously, that part at 15:52 was most telling: He was on the verge of winning VERY hard, but then suddenly sent his entire ground army back to fend off a single reaper... Clearly a misclick that was the product of panic / nervousness.
Later this game I think his best bet would be to make some cheap roaches. Queens just keep bcs busy while roach destroy everything else.
@2019inuyasha
Жыл бұрын
If you attack planetary with roaches then swarm with lings it dies very fast without shooting down many units. The spore placement was awful he could move his spores and use those with Queens to defend the bcs
This is my favourite type of IODIS! =) Lings against Battlecruisers! =) I mean I am humble. I know I am too slow and to lazy to be good at the game. But the Lings against Battlecruisers is just funny! =) Thank you! =)
23:10 Wasn't there something about the calculations being off or something, for fights happening off screen ? I'm sure I saw a video at some point with some examples of the same fights having different outcomes whether you had your focus on it or not.
@ward648
2 жыл бұрын
Giantgrantgames with his deathless challenge run on the sc2 finale, but I don't think it applies to the multiplayer
@FogToo
2 жыл бұрын
@@ward648 That's right, that's the thing. Thank you for reminding me, and you are probably right about it not applying to multiplayer.
@Santisima_Trinidad
2 жыл бұрын
@@FogToo i think it does apply to multiplayer (i believe its omission frames, which is literally just frames ommited in order to render stuff offscreen in a less resource intensive manner) but the margins for it are tiny, only resulting in a couple of SCVs dieing when the position in under assualt by the largest offensive force in SC2, not 9 hydras shooting a factory.
Thoombnail reference: 29:29 🤣🤣
11:00 wait... Terran jumped out with the first two BCs, a second later he jumps back in with two BCs, one of which is slightly damaged, the other full health. How is this possible with only three BC? What did just happen?!
@erikkarlsson9192
2 жыл бұрын
ooh, lool he just jumped like 3 feet with that second BC at the same time as the third jumped there. It seemed weird as it disappeared completely for a second before appearing again.
great stuff as always capt
I love the casual Harstem = Cristiano Ronaldo equality :P (29:28) Though I must say it's probably a bit unfair... Harstem is clearly superior to CR7, the comparison is too far fetched (or at the very least I enjoy watching Kevin de Koning a ton more :) )