"He had a lot of experiende with locomotives" ..."Over the course of the war, he blew up 36 trains in France."

@equarg

2 жыл бұрын

😳……Not the type of experience I was expecting.

@bonkyeh8222

2 жыл бұрын

BAHAHAHAHA

@beer1for2break3fast4

2 жыл бұрын

Well, he did know how to stop them.

@alexnamibia

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@User5777_

2 жыл бұрын

That caught me so off guard 💀💀

"And I just....jumped up on the seat, smashed me head through the glass roof..." That is the most Marine thing ever.

@sheristewart3940

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I too, was impressed with this gentleman's bravado.

@jameswilliams3749

2 жыл бұрын

Ohh I get it ..jar head .. 😂 u must be Navy

@Utubin

Жыл бұрын

What a tough feller,:)

@S1M6ELnotsubgtr_01

4 ай бұрын

Maybe glasses may Nokia phone?

1 person asleep is a personal issue. 3 asleep is a company issue. You’re overworking your staff if three people are so tired they can fall asleep standing up on train, which are extremely loud. Weird that mayday wouldn’t go into this, considering that they have talked about overworked pilots being a factor in crashes before. I hope after this train companies were forced to take on more staff/establish time limits. “You’re allowed to nap” is not enough.

@htos1av

2 жыл бұрын

Think about how much your body is pounded by these machines! It should be a two weeks on and two off schedule for healing.

@bigballz4u

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like you didn't watch the whole video, near the end they discuss all kind of measures put in place after this.

@redwolfpiping5701

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigballz4u the crew read to the conductor in the caboose that they entered dalehurst siding, how could they fall asleep right after getting into the siding

@bigballz4u

2 жыл бұрын

@@redwolfpiping5701 I didn't say that's what happened, I'm just pointing out to the OP that their comment omits facts presented in the video

@nickwarner8158

2 жыл бұрын

Companies value profits over people and that will never change. Most railroads in the US have unions, and the unions stand up for their workers making sure they aren't worked like this.

The skillful depiction of the impact was as stunning as the actual footage. So glad many survived, God knows how.

@alexsawchuk5371

2 жыл бұрын

The head engines took the brunt of the initial collision.

@FaithandNova

2 жыл бұрын

I don't like how they didn't talk about the conductors from the train carrying the passengers.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

The fact that only 23 people died is nothing short of a miracle

RIP to all. Mayday should have a spinoff series for train disasters. It's a good way to honor those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our convenient society.

@civlwrbuf

2 жыл бұрын

They don't for trains but they do have a spinoff for ships called Disasters At Sea.

@robertbowen6610

17 күн бұрын

And truck disasters because the truck drivers keep this country together without them we would have nothing

I like that they showed the different survivors perspective. It shows how trauma affects everyone differently.

@CynthiaSchoenbauer

2 жыл бұрын

I am glad you mentioned trauma. It is an important topic in today's world!

@SuperLordHawHaw

Жыл бұрын

Though it also affects people similarly

@brigidtheirish

10 ай бұрын

It's interesting how people react. Some people avoid the source of trauma. Some people are *motivated* by trauma.

Sleep deprivation is just as bad as intoxication. I can’t believe the industry tolerated this. Amazing that there were any survivors. Especially looking at those photos. The rescuers would suffer PTSD.

@autonomous2010

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately sleep deprivation isn't a valid excuse in America for taking time off. It should be but it's not. Even if lives are at stake, money has to be made.

@autonomous2010

Жыл бұрын

@@Bobspineable "We're perpetually short staffed so if you can just work 12/H a day that would be great." We hear all the time about a "labor shortage" and how it will get better... but hiring has all dried up. It does not get better.

@valerierodger7700

Жыл бұрын

@@Bobspineable that’s a great argument, until you realize that sleep deprivation is built into the schedule.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Definitely amazing looking at that damage I would think there would be at least 50-70 deaths and yes the CN crew was asleep CN is at fault

@muffs55mercury61

Жыл бұрын

So true. I'm a retired truck driver and that's still a problem. Or trying to sleep at a time your body clock is not used to.

I worked for a Class 1 U.S. railroad for almost 14 years. There were other factors around my decision to resign but the NUMBER 1 reason was, and I've said it many many times, "I just wanted to sleep at night like a normal human being". Railroad men are paid well but they pay a price in terms of health issues, failed marriages.

@ComicBookGuy33

Жыл бұрын

BNSF Better Not Start a Family

@Asymmetrical-Saggin

Жыл бұрын

Lmao. Failed marriage is your own fault not a jobs. Please..

@olafvidar9315

Жыл бұрын

@@Asymmetrical-Saggin Hard to stay married when your gone all the time bud....

I can see why it took 40-ish mins to get to the crash site. My family and I went out looking for the memorial and there are a lot of twisting back roads between it and the main roads. If you don't know where you're going, it will take a bit to get there. The saddest thing is, there were flowers when the memorial was first put up, but when we found the memorial, there was nothing but the memorial. It's so sad. It's just out there, forgotten by most other than the farmers who live nearby. It's like a ruin from Lord of the Rings or some long-forgotten civilization. I like seeing that this episode popping up more and more here on KZread. At least now those whose lives were lost can be remembered better.

@cme98

2 жыл бұрын

I had no clue there is a memorial, in fact I had no clue this accident even happened until the algorithms recommended it to me -and they are more wrong than right. Glad I watched & angers me to this day because it never should of happened within modern history. We are quick to blame the people who failed & died or survived, & ignore the facts which led them to fail. Here, that is clearly stress on the body which had become a condition of employment & amounts to legalized human torture if you ask me. This condition was created by management & clearly they knew about it & used the threat of unemployment to combat any safety concerns. Simply outrageous! This practice survives today at many factories & such jobs are made safer by technology -even in 1986. Today they use robotics if the jobs have that much potential to cause harm. But even then management must make those decisions, not the poor employee doing the job, heck no, he is replaceable & if he dies we can just blame him. It’s sad to read from you the memorial has become dilapidated. I assume the company paid for & provided for it. They need to be committed to its preservation for life as a reminder of what they caused which led to great changes for the benefit of Canadian society. Not doing so is a disgrace & proof management wins. I am onboard to do what I can do to help, but limited as I live 90 miles south of the Canadian border. I highly doubt anybody up there would even read someone down here wrote to those who have the power to respect that monument rather than the disrespect it shows today!

@th3oryO

2 жыл бұрын

@Christoffer Erickson hold your horses. The memorial is not a ruin, it just doesn't have fresh flowers placed on a daily basis. Considering the plaque was placed in 2016 (30 years later) and the ceremony was largely seen as an opportunistic political move by an out of touch politician, it's not a surprise. Also it was placed in Hinton in front of the museum, people certainly walk past it and observe it somewhat regularly throughout the year. (And it's being maintained by the town) A ton of other disasters need more recognition, but this is one that is actively being remembered.

@beer1for2break3fast4

2 жыл бұрын

@@th3oryO There must be one at the site of the accident that he was referring to, not one in front of a museum. A previous post said "My family and I went out looking for the memorial and there are a lot of twisting back roads between it and the main roads. If you don't know where you're going, it will take a bit to get there."

@blessedlupupa3592

2 жыл бұрын

@@beer1for2break3fast4 very true

@MakerInMotion

Жыл бұрын

At least being difficult to get to prevents vandalism.

I rember working as an on-call nurse how exhausted I used to be. Some nights at work I could have slept propped up in a corner. Fatigue is a terrible enemy of anyone who needs to function at a high level.

After 20 years in the newspaper business, my younger brother changed careers, becoming a train engineer. He has been working for the railroads in Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas for a decade now. He has described shocking safety violations to me on many occasions, but none more harrowing than crews being nearly totally asleep because they are worked to death in violation of federal regulations.

Even under ideal conditions, it amazes me how close trains pass each other in opposite directions. I've taken VIA rail between Toronto and Montreal many times. Its quite a jolt to look out the window and watch another train flash by. You hope nothing is dangling off that might strike you.

@sharoncassell9358

Жыл бұрын

I rode on amtrack across country often. When a train passed next to us on a curve we could feel a vortex suction toward the trAin passing us in the opposite direction. It is scary. I ended up becoming a signal maintainer in charge of traffic signals and switches to change tracks. The city subway has stop arms to prevent a train from going past red signals.

@Ryvaken

11 ай бұрын

Amtrak autotrain up and down the east coast. One of the biggest passenger trains in the US. You're lying in a sleeper in the dead of night and suddenly your window is rattling like there's a tornado outside. Was not the place I wanted to spend Dec 31st 1999. Nothing happened, we knew nothing was going to happen, but they still stopped the train to run a full system check and everyone was is their rooms thinking some variation on "this is not where I expected to be during one of the more credible end-of-the-world moments."

"I smashed me head through the glass-aroo and said 'come on, let's get out!'" Worth it for that statement alone.

CN put the drinker, with life threatening illnesses, and no sleep in the cab, but gets only a minor mention for responsibility... Go Figure! CN is 100% responsible for the crash. (No competition makes CN a lazy player. It's not like anyone else to do this job.)

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Ikr and the engineer should’ve been fired prior to the collision as he had committed numerous violations CN Is totally at fault here not the CN crew

@ace74909

Жыл бұрын

​@@espnluver7525cns bad actions far outweigh the engineer. Good thing that cn landed in got water after the crash

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

@@ace74909if I was a freight train engineer or conductor riding in the lead locomotive on a single track I would def want to know well in advance when we expect to meet other trains yet the dispatcher neglected to tell either train of the meet

The guy in the caboose was sleep too. Poor guy can't face the truth, he probably convinced himself of the lies he testified too Edit: I have to add, fatigue has always been a problem in transportation. Pilots, truck drivers. I know I drove a truck in the 90's and there were too many loopholes that let dispatchers run you ragged. No sleep, but you have to pick up run all night, deliver, then do it again. It's been stopped now or I wouldn't be doing it, but the bosses didn't care then and there were a LOT more accidents. I'm listening in my truck through the radio system an d it's fine, then a commercial comes on and the volume blasts me out of the cab.. WTH???

@DirtiestJoe

2 жыл бұрын

Commercials come on at the worst times too, makes me not want to buy any of them advertised products

@thedeviouspanda

2 жыл бұрын

I put my headphones in and every ad is like someone shooting a gun next to my head lol

@cynthiatolman326

2 жыл бұрын

@@DirtiestJoe That's exactly how I feel. I say I'll never buy that product- ever.

@sharoncassell9358

Жыл бұрын

This is 2022 and there's a railroad strike now for the same reason. No days off & no sick leave. We need to resolve these atrocities. I worked for 31 years on night shifts and lived most of it tired. Now I'm retired and still stay up at night and take naps during the day sometimes.

@osumbuckeyenut

Жыл бұрын

They still don't care

I only live 2 hours away from Hinton and take the train to Jasper and Vancouver often. And to actually realize something of this magnitude occurred on a route that is familiar to you is a strange feeling.

@sharoncassell9358

Жыл бұрын

I was aboard a nyc railroad train and a blind lady with a seeing eye guide dog tried to get off . The dog got out and she didnt make it. The dog was running behind the train. I realized she thought that was her stop but the train took off. I figured what was going on and yelled for the conductor and pulled the emergency cord. The dog caught up with the train and jumped back on. The lady got off at the next stop where she was supposed to.

that thumbnail got me i’ll be honest

@C-Midori

2 жыл бұрын

why would it make some decent meme material tho

@GreatDetecting

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@jed-henrywitkowski6470

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me, coupled with the fact, it said "mayday", so I was expecting something to do with aircraft.

@soarinskies1105

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like it could be a pretty funny meme indeed

@rockingrandmaof2

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

My Uncle died this way he was an engineer on a Freight train and died in a train accident. Feel sorry for the families of the victims on both trains. It's so hard to loose someone like that and not even be able to say goodbye.

@kayriv814

Жыл бұрын

Rip to your uncle my good sir ❤🫡

@atomic19682

Жыл бұрын

Type F to pay respects

@i_am_in_your_closet

5 ай бұрын

sending prayers❤

The sequence of facts (in every episode) picked by the writers is well picked for keeping interest in what will happen next. Also the narrator very listenable.

Another problem that I think could be an improvement recommendation from this crash is to have a magnet loop or a balise at the track next to the signal to give emergency stop command automatically if the train run the red signal (like the TPWS loop)

Literally mentioned this exact episode on the stream yesterday during Tenireife. And the very next day it's here, great job listening to your viewers 😊👏

@MilesL.auto-train4013

2 жыл бұрын

I think they have it on a schedule.. Also, you know WONDER uploaded this episode already, right? Ya didn't have to wait for it, heh.

@joeydrumstix

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@erika_itsumi5141

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesL.auto-train4013 I Know, Wonder OnTheMove And here are all posting Mayday episodes

@lanalook9200

2 жыл бұрын

Um...haha you actually thought they did this for YOU? 😄 🤣 😂

Such a blessing that they changed the systems after this incident--and so sad that this happened. My prayers go out to those impacted. Such a tragic loss.

@FaithandNova

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it takes disasters to correct the errors. This could have totally been avoided if they hired more ppl instead of overworking the ones there.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

CN is at fault not the CN crew

The irony is that if the VIA train hadn’t been running late, the two trains would’ve passed harmlessly by each other. Much like the late running Amtrak Sunset Limited in 1993 that derailed due to a barge hitting a bridge not long before they crossed it.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Funny how they don’t mention that in this documentary and funny how they don’t mention how the CN train did have that reset safety control but sadly it was only in the 2nd locomotive and not the lead locomotive

Sir... you aren't a terrible person..you were put in a terrible situation and telling that girl her friend was dead was a very noble act..God Bless

It always takes a tragedy to wake the ones running the company to change the rules. To fix things. Just like the truckers who were falling asleep while driving because they had to make deadlines. Sickening

@grf15

2 жыл бұрын

I both agree and disagree. It's easy to establish rules. The problem is enforcement. CN knew their employees were ignoring the rules about the dead man switch and changing crews on the fly. They did nothing to stop either practice.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

@@grf15 CN Is totally at fault here the CN Crew is totally innocent

@jamalwilliams4380

10 ай бұрын

Thats why everything went to elds cuz of that

The messed up thing is if he just got 30 min more sleep this wouldn't have happened. A friend used to say if you can't get 8 hours (at least, LET ME SLEEP 10!) then ideally you should sleep exactly 4 hours. I wish I could recall his reasoning, but it is essentially the perfect amount of sleep if you can't get a full 8.

Wow that dispatcher does NOT know how to handle a crisis situation. People are dying and he's trying to dish out blame. Call the damn emergency services! Get pertinent information about casualties! Notify management to get additional assistance! Do anything besides try to place blame....

@Deathtofrogleghorn

2 жыл бұрын

This is how ridiculous railroad’s are. They rather scold someone first than get emergency services out first.

I remember as a kid this accident happening. I lived not far from where the accident happened and it came as a huge shock to us that a train accident could happen. In Canada the railway is a huge part of the landscape.

That poor guy only slept 3 hrs and get up to work again

I prefer the air disasters, but this one was pretty good. I'd have to say that I agree. The whole crew was asleep.

@XFA_33_FENRIR

2 жыл бұрын

Except for the guy who woke up on the caboose

@drats1279

2 жыл бұрын

based on what evidence, the guess by Dr. Smiley or the gues by the judge in charge of the investigation. It is so easy to go along to get along.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

@@XFA_33_FENRIRthe collision woke him up

they need some mandatory crew rest like airline crews have.

@ELIGG15

2 жыл бұрын

Yea true

@svetlanaseamone1920

2 жыл бұрын

The mandatory crew test should be a rule number one for this company.

@thomasklimchuk441

2 жыл бұрын

The crew could have booked up to 8 hours personal rest at their away from home terminal at they choose to do so with an hour call after their rest was up

My husband & I lived in Germany for 2 tours, 6 yrs. We loved touring all over Europe by train. Very convenient. No accidents! This show was unbelievably sad. Very horrific.

I just fell so bad people want to go on vacation and then this stuff happens even though it's super rare I still fell bad

Absolutely brutal what happened here. That rear conductor should've pulled the emergency brakes but when your overworked to that degree you don't have the sense to do what right sometimes plus he admitted it himself he just wanted to get home he was exhausted. I put the blame where it belongs and that Is CN via Rail. Their to blame as far as I'm concerned not the guys who fell asleep.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

The conductor sounded like he was totally lying during his testimony he was asleep too

Maybe if they had more employees and better scheduling for mental health reasons this would’ve been avoidable. It’s really not their fault, it’s the company who has over worked these poor guys.

@fransbernard6772

2 жыл бұрын

The employees involved in this type of schedule should protest of the scheduling n maybe under staff. So dont just work n work

@lanalook9200

2 жыл бұрын

Mental health lol

@sienashawver6511

2 жыл бұрын

@@lanalook9200 ?

@joyceanthony-huff2914

2 жыл бұрын

Mental health issues is baloney

@sienashawver6511

2 жыл бұрын

@@joyceanthony-huff2914 lack of sleep is very bad for your mental health. I’ve actually gone all night without sleep and the next day I couldn’t control my emotions and I was seeing things out of the side of my eyes that were not there. Immediately when I went to bed and woke up with a good amount of sleep I felt a lot better.

It's been 35 years since this crash, but despite the changes, collisions still occur, like the Chase Maryland collision 1 year in January, the Chatsworth collision in 2008 when a Metrolink disregarded signals and head-on collided with a Union Pacific freight train, or even the Cayce train collision that happened 3 years ago. Some engineers still say that it's still hard to get some sleep or even have enough time to take a nice dump. You can't totally ditch disaster, but you can learn about these accidents to make them less frequent, so you don't have a repeat in history.

@dbclass4075

2 жыл бұрын

Or make disasters far less devastating. For example, trap points.

@_tsiatsiaros.k

11 ай бұрын

Thunderbolt productions

My father worked for the BNSF, so this episode hits close to home for me. If he was still alive I wonder what he would think about this.

@KDubielak

Жыл бұрын

Does your father still working with bnsf railroad

@DinoCam1795

Жыл бұрын

@@KDubielak He retired around 2014... and passed away in 2017.

"It all points to a train out of control". More accurate: It all points to a train NOT BEING CONTROLLED.

@JoshWomble

2 жыл бұрын

It was still technically "out of control," just not in the most common sense of the phrase

i have been looking for this episode for so long. so glad to finally find it

Completely incomprehensible how you can not know how long your own train is. This information was even back then part of the basic information of every train driver. What was even worse, however, was that the train was not automatically braked when the engine driver did not brake appropriately at the distant signal. The final catastrophe and completely incomprehensible, especially in 1986, was the lack of any automatic train stopping system when crossing a red signal without permission. The construction of the dead man's pedal was also completely irresponsible. Just pressing down on the pedal should not be enough, it actually has to be designed in such a way that you have to lift your foot every 30 seconds. With all these faulty designs, this catastrophe was only a matter of time.

I would truly love to meet Mr. Heyd. He is just such an inspiration through and through. God bless him!

Driver fatigue has been an issue in trucking as well. We need adequate rest and consistent schedules. It is called the zircadian rhythm of the body. Drinking coffee or energy drinks are not a aupplement to adequate sleep. I do want to point out something never mentioned in this episode: PTC. Positive Train Control works by automatically applying a train's brakes if the train passes a red signal. Considering how fast the trains were going, they would have still collided but with lesser force. I also put the blame on the engineer of the VIA train. He saw the freight train coming at him and could have slowed the train down. The investigation never addressed the braking on the VIA train. PTC is now standard on every major rail corridor not just in the US. It has proven its worth. However, human error continues to be the #1 factor in crashes. Only proper training and strict guidelines for safety and compliance will mitigate collisions of any kind, except those caused by sabotage or mechanical failure.

0:32 poor old man. He was about to eat when suddenly an explosion happened and injured him

@kevinmalone3210

2 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way, even if it was a re-creation.

CN can't have their crews working irregular hours and expect them to be fully alert each time. I'm glad they're not on call 24hrs now. And it sounds like they just didn't want to fire the one conductor by the way they stopped logging infractions once it got close to firing level. Sometimes places don't want to have to find a new hire so they let bad employees stay when they should be let go.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Yep Hudson should’ve been fired beforehand for numerous serious violations

Thanks for the upload🌞

My house is close to a park with trains passing by day and night. I always go for walks and love watching them and somehow I always fantasize being the conductor roaming across the country from coast to coast, passing fields, mountains, prairies and lakes. Working on a train is actually not as romantic as I fantasized. It's a task that carries huge responsibility that requires constant attention and alert to quick decision making. It's a big tragedy for everyone in this disaster. Big corporations like CN, CP and airlines cannot treat their employees like machines, working them all kinds of shifts with not enough rest, sleep and relaxation. Squeezing out every penny of profits for their CEO and shareholders is totally unconscionable. It's time for these types of businesses practice to stop.

You’re doing a really good job with the storylines the music the videos and the content. Thanks for posting these. I love a good mystery. I especially like the ones where they saved all the people and no one died.

Brakeman straight-up lying his ass off...he was asleep and so was the Conductor and Engineer on the head-end. I'm a former Railroad Conductor myself. It's easy to fall asleep on a train, especially when you are exhausted from lack of rest/sleep.

@ariahazelwood3842

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the brakeman was told to cover his tracks by the company, and that he did indeed fall asleep. People easily do this in cars all the time--and trains make you even more sleepy considering you don't have to make turns!

@drats1279

2 жыл бұрын

So easy to condemn others based on conjecture and guesswork. So pompous and holier than thou.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Ikr all 3 CN crew members were totally asleep

@kalkuttadrop6371

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, and with the other two dead and CNR covering their own behinds he'd have been up the creek had he admitted to it

Would definitely like to see more like this. I've seen all the air disaster videos but hardly any trains. Unless that's due to there not being a whole lot of train wrecks

@chukowiley3823

2 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of train crashes, and Mayday made another one over the 1989 Cajon Pass crash. It’s just that Mayday was always supposed to be a plane show, so they only did a few non-plane episodes.

@cononodapotato6920

2 жыл бұрын

@@chukowiley3823 yeah, iirc they made 1 ship episode and 3 train episodes.

@TheChernobylNPP

2 жыл бұрын

@@cononodapotato6920 Wish there were more

@usmale4915

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheChernobylNPP So do I!

@TheChernobylNPP

2 жыл бұрын

@@usmale4915 righto I find them more interesting then the plane crashes but that’s just me

I'm from the Edmonton area and have had a few friends who worked for CN, unfortunately the work culture is pretty much the same, no regular hours, on call 24/7.

@roman4892

Жыл бұрын

I'm from Edmonton as well I have a friend who currently works for CN and not very often see him working the right hours, also he have mental issues like Borderline personality disorder

The guy from the caboose is miserable that he survived, alone…poor guy. The judge is, what afraid, to lay the blame on the company? He said CN had some fault in the accident…it had a lot to do by reprimanding, more than likely, those who needed to take a nap. I’m all for private enterprise, but when it comes to public safety, that’s more important than their profit margin.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Ikr he only gave CN a slap on the waist CN is 140% responsible for this crash not the CN crew

Thank you for all of the uploads

I remember working in the Transcona shops near winnepeg in the '60's doing static load tests on the just overhauled loco's. It was 34° below farenheit with the engine in "run 8". Wide open for a full shift. Most would be amazed at how easy it was to fall asleep with the cab heaters going full blast and the sound drums you to sleep when I was supposed to be monitoring the test equipment.

@lagresomadsl

2 жыл бұрын

I sleep very good and fast with a heater on full blast! But I don't sleep very long. Waking up very easy. Confused and tired😃

I'm surprised that anyone survived this crash. Rest in peace

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

The fact that only 23 people died died in this wreck is nothing short of a miracle and I def believe the whole CN crew was asleep

looking at the aftermath of the wreck it's hard to believe that anyone made it out alive.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Ikr hard to believe only 23 people died

Unfortunately mismanagement and profits before safety continue to be prevalent with the latest example being the horrific train disaster in BC in 2019 with allegations of a coverup continuing to this day. Employee and passenger safety do not seem to be a priority where the bottom line is concerned.

@jamesroberts1810

10 ай бұрын

I remember that!! It was a run away freight train coming down the canadian mountains...the engineer the day before was saying they had air brakes in the artic cold on another train he was on..the dat of the 2019 derailment the train had beem sitting in 28 below 0 degrees for like 6 hours..being an engineer in Canadá is diffcult because there are soo many twist and turns on the tracks..not to mention going up and down inclines with fully loaded train

The actor that said OMG right before the crash kudos dude you can act.

I guess that was one advantage to steam locomotives is that it needed constant attention to keep going with multiple people making it near impossible for a crew member to sleep on the job except maybe the caboose man.

Heartbreaking for these workers and people who loss their lives. Sleep is nessessary for workers who work long hours. This could have been avoided if employers payed more attention to there employees.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

CN Rail is 100% responsible for this crash not the CN crew

Hands down my favorite Aviation Channel on KZread (Though this episode isn't necessarily about Aviation lol 😆)

“So I smashed me head through the glass roof…” lol definitely a marine.

that poor dude who tried to save people but had to watch them die. that is terrible

I don’t remember his name but I just wanted to jump through the screen and hug the older passenger with glasses. I can’t begin to imagine the horror these people went through. I doubt it but I really hope that those killed died instantly or at least were unconscious before they were killed. Burning alive seems like it is the most painful and excruciating way to die.

@mollynicole4614

2 жыл бұрын

the man with glasses heard the mother and son burning to death. I was balling when I heard that. That will scar me for life.

I like the way that old Royal Marine took charge and lead the way!

I remember this crash; I was a teenager living in Edmonton at the time. As the facts came to light, there was a lot of anger directed towards CN as human error was to blame, but CN had created an environment where human error was inevitable. “Mini atom bomb” is an apt comparison - the kinetic energy of those massive freight trains travelling at speed is staggering, and when combined with the energy of the passenger train, it’s a horrific amount of destructive power.

The real problem is the railroad itself, the management, they need to let the conductor and crew to SLEEP!! It's always about money and not wanting to hire enough crew.

If he'd admitted he was asleep, what would have happened to the caboose employee? Is it possible both his union and attorneys advised him to cover his backside, no matter how illogical the explanation?

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

He was asleep

I worked third shift for about eight years and I've worked with a number of people who fell asleep standing. It was also hard af to get any sleep because I always had things to do and family always expected me to be available ("but you're the only one not working right now!") to help do stuff for them, I'd be lucky to get ~4 hours of sleep a night. It was worse whenever we'd go into OT.

Sad.and horrible. No way if you're conscious do you speed up through triple red. Pilots routinely disabling safety signals also has consequences, as shown in some of the air accident episodes.

@Revkor

2 жыл бұрын

the dead man petal is very flawed if hours of pressing it becomes uncomfortable then that is an issue because of this very thing.

@TheApp9

2 жыл бұрын

@@Revkor I thought the same. This technique is made to get disabled.

The World War 2 veteran was psychologically resilient despite the horrific tragedy. The greatest generation indeed.

Even for 1986 standards clearly this was fault of management who had little regard for the health & safety for not just their employees, but for customers as well. 3.5 hours of sleep or even 5 even in 1986 was considered illegal for truck drivers in the United States who were/are required by law to keep a detailed record of a minimum 8 hours sleep between shifts. Its simply appalling management forced employees to work at 99% knowing full well themselves what sleep deprivation does to the human body, because we've ALL been there & know & most of us found out the hard way & got lucky. So too was the Canadian railroad industry who chose to abuse their positions of power to force employees to unreasonable demands rather than address safety concerns discovered by the commission but had been ignored from those with power to make vital safety improvements. The Judge who in his decision, placed blame on the employees failed, in his outrageous decision to partially blame employees of the freight train, failed to mention the cause of the accident being a lack of safety protocols being implemented by management who relied solely on the dependability of their employees abused regularly with a lack of sufficient rest to the point where any human body would have eventually collapsed from such abuse, is not only obvious to any well functioning human being but it is the SOLE trigger which caused this collision & please do not call this an accident, this is a classic abuse incident which was preventable. Accidents can not be prevented, this was a collision & the Judge who did identify this as caused by management failed to investigate into the matter further which i am sure would have brought management records into view which clearly, i suspect, ignore repeated attempts to implement safety concerns due to costs. For the judge to even list the sole surviving train employee as a cause of this collision is backstabbing because even if he was asleep anybody could have predicted he would given the job requirement of sleep deprivation & repetitiveness which in 1986 was well known throughout our planet as the sole primary cause of highway truck collisions but somehow ignored by the railway institution there in Canada. How convenient was it of them to regard themselves immune from safety regulations placed upon the trucking industry because they were so much better as proven by how well their employees served while deprived of sleep. This no doubt was a win win for management who only had to implement safety upgrades long overdue & seemed to of had no problems coming up with that money after.... how many died? Yeah. Go figure? The practice of not naming blame to management & not digging deeper or pressing charges against management gives the impression safety concerns can be ignored by management. I remind people not everybody in management are Engineers educated in matters for which they lack education to make decisions on. They make decisions for profit & fail to work with engineers by using their power of authority to ignore their concerns. This practice can only be stopped by charging those within management with negligent crimes caused by their decisions which caused so many or even one death. Failure to do this here in 1986 spreads far & wide across our profitable globe internationally. As in the case of Boeing who intentionally knew about safety errors with the 737 which caused 350 deaths & did so for profit knowing there was risk, even admitting to it, firing engineers & calling them disgruntled employees when they publicly voiced concerns, calling pilots at fault in the 2 fatal crashes, pressuring inspectors or even govt-FCC inspectors whose paychecks were paid for by Boeing to sign off on documentation by reporting or threatening to report them to Boeing staff responsible for their pay for needlessly refusing to sign off on paperwork, requiring employees to work 72 hours per week minimum every 8 weeks with only 3 weeks of normal 40 hour work weeks inbetween -by contract with Unions, which also is a condition which is abusive on the human body, and firing engineers who dared refused management demands is what it took to get 3 engineers who armed with stacks of documents walked into the US State Dept, because they feared the FCC was in bed with Boeing management, as its been done before & still Boeing referred to them as disgruntled employees until their stacks of documents clearly proved upper management clearly chose profit over safety proving a coverup was indeed their policy. It is a shame this goes on & i am sure it went on in Canada in 1986 as well. The total lack of our government to prosecute upper management to provide the safety by ignoring it due to costs is the biggest threat we face as a free society. And paying off victims with cash is a cheap slap in the face when that cash buys the freedom of those who caused the tragedy & wouldn't even have that cash if it were not for how they obtained it from abuse & taking risk. Simply said there are better ways & people really do need to speak out. Take the time, like i did, & say so.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Well said Fosey was such an idiot to blame the CN crew for the accident it’s totally CN Rail’s fault

I love the occasionnal train accidents. Really cool to watch

@doggonemess1

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment is hilarious if you read it out of context. XD

@nyengoavalo7358

2 жыл бұрын

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not🤣

@kevinmalone3210

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you would feel the same way if you were actually in one?

@dew9103

2 жыл бұрын

sad that there are only 2 train accidents in Mayday air crash investigation

@zBrainlezz

2 жыл бұрын

It *is* called Air Disaster for a reason... but I agree that there should be more documentaries about these incidents

I am from Alberta ,, I remember this clearly,, it was horrific!

What a true Royal Marine. "I decided I had to be act spontaneously...so I bashed my head through the window and yelled for the others to follow me." "Oh I just got incredibly lucky. I got over the accident right away and got back to my life." There's always a truly incredible level of brazen hardiness present in most WW2 vets I've ever heard speak about traumatic events.

A warning system with activation from the cabbose could have alerted the engineer or breakman and prevented this disaster from taking 23 lives and injuring 70+ passengers.

The couple who died hugging each other is so beautiful. I wish my husband and I could have died that way. I wish I would have passed when he did a year ago. Those who get to die alongside the love of their life are so lucky.

This is the worst case of, “No way, I wasn’t sleeping” I ever heard.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Sure is

I hate how this investigation wasn’t about making this never happen again, but more on punishment of the conductors.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

The CN crew is totally innocent CN Rail is to blame

Oh so now mayday is gonna give me train anxiety as well huh. Fair play to them

_"Smashed me head through the glassaroo and shouted, 'come on, let's get out!"_ :-)

This makes a good argument for trains driven by computers, rather than by people. A computer won't suffer health issues or fatigue, and a computer will obey every rule. Plus, a train is the simplest vehicle for a computer to run; if self-driving cars are possible, then so are self-driving trains. Computer-run trains would be less expensive and save many lives over the years.

@jamesdavis8542

2 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of a computer crash?

Everybody on this team is top entertainment quality. This time I want to compliment the editors, but actors, directors, and whoever picks the illustrations -- all tops. Pace and rhythm great.

@espnluver7525

Жыл бұрын

Who do u blame for the crash CN Rail or the CN Crew?????

@trukeesey8715

Жыл бұрын

@@espnluver7525 Both. Courageous man would refuse to work. Would have to be also resourceful for alternated livelihood, and foresightful to be prepared for it.

The lack of sleep is a big factor

YES. MORE TRAIN VIDEOS. And I don’t even care if they are re-runs

God was with you guys

Now I understand why the U.S. train drivers want to strike. How can you schedule back to back train shifts without at least an 8 break between the ending of one shift and the beginning of another. I feel bad for everyone involved in this train accident.

24 1/4 Million LBS!!!!!!! :O That's like 303 fully loaded semi trucks! WOW!!!!!

I don't know what happened but that breakfast sure does look good! Did you see that bacon and pile of home fries? Wow!!!!!

@TrainmasterCurt

2 жыл бұрын

VIA Rail in the 1980’s had impeccable service before the unnecessary cuts of 1989/90

Oh my lord such a tragedy.🙏May they rest in peace.

The conductor's body language shows he's lying big time. All 3 of them were sleeping. Blame it on the company running that train.

@ThatIsALakeSir

Жыл бұрын

hudson slept for just 3.5-4 hours probably even the other 2, so cn is to blame most

Mayday: Air Disaster. Well, okay, I have to concede that trains are technically in the air, too.

@PsychoKat90

2 жыл бұрын

That's the spirit!

@fogweaver5633

2 жыл бұрын

These two definitely were, at least briefly.

@thedeviouspanda

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking at the thumbnail wondering if a plane crashed down into a train. It wouldn't be completely impossible, at least in my area. We have freight trains running pretty frequently and a couple small airports where people learn how to fly and they're responsible for a fair amount of plane crashes. We even have a "low flying aircraft" warning on the highway and I'm always expecting someone to ditch their plane into me.

Every accident is horrible but it hurts so much more when it involves a totally preventable loss of life 💔😢

Thanks for the Upload 👍 !! Xd Look at the way how that train wraps around the track like that !! Xd

37:32 This reminds me of taking wheel watch. The waves would have that same hypnotic effect.

I don't see how the freight train didn't derail entering back on to the main line. The switch wouldn't have been activated to do so. The switch would have been lined to go straight for the passenger train down the main line. If the switch was lined for the freight train to get back on the main line, had they waited like they were supposed to the passenger train would have came up the wrong track on a collision course towards the freight train.

@laurahorehled5494

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing and surprised it isn't mentioned with all the investigation done.

3.5 hours of sleep? I already know where this is heading.

Such sadness all around.

Kind of wondering why a Judge was tasked with the accident investigation - doesn’t Canada have a specific agency to investigate transportation accidents, like the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in the United States? Or is that level of specialized investigation only given to airplane crashes?

Wow. Cheers to Jaime going back in there.

@usmale4915

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, now that's what I call a real HERO! What a great and wonderful man!

Perhaps in this day and age (2022), the radio transmissions could be recorded and stored in a secure location for safety and rules checking plus for these tragic investigations. This from an American who has ridden and enjoyed the VIA Canadian across the Rockies to Vancouver.

@jsmmacdld3519

6 ай бұрын

So many new safety issues addressed to having alarm go off if foot comes off fuel pedal in them days they could put a heavy object on fuel pedal so if they fell asleep train keeps going now no caboose and no more fuel pedal incidents of your foot comes off alarm goes off