I would tell my students… Imagine you’re driving and coming up to a stop sign, you want to slowly ease into the stop. If you slam on your brakes, the front end of your vehicle will jolt forward. The same principle applies when pulling your trigger to the rear

@platinumbrick6

2 жыл бұрын

Well put

@smuckwap

2 жыл бұрын

Great analogy.

@shevetlevi2821

2 жыл бұрын

Nice. Good mental image.

@AndiRose21

2 жыл бұрын

This. Is. Excellent.

@DWalter.27

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is most people don't understand smooth driving either; they happily jack on the brakes lol

Brilliant! I watched the first 2.5 minute, took out my gun, thought 'add pressure' and I was hitting center of target consistently. This bit of info along with so many other videos and books has really made a difference, thank you!

@theanxious

2 жыл бұрын

I do this atleast 2 times a week on my range and usually more. It is absolutely a wonderful "drill". My mantra in my head is "more...more... more" until the shot breaks. I can say without a shadow of a doubt it has helped me to learn and maintain my skills on the trigger. I couldn't recommend this more to ANY shooter any level. I had been shooting for well over a decade before I learned this trick. I was a very competent shooter BUT I for sure got better on the trigger almost immediately after starting to do exactly whats shown in the vid. Sometimes you just gotta slow down and think more, the discipline you get from doing this is invaluable.

@jamor2549

Жыл бұрын

15 yards? Do you aim normal or aim higher?

All of you are fantastic! I absolutely love these videos and the people in them. I'm 74 years old and have been shooting since I was about 10 years old; I have learned more from ASP than I have in all my years shooting. Thank you!!!

@defensivepistolscience1344

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, civilian training didn’t come around until like 1979, before that we had to rely on uncle bob.

I do basically exactly this as a warm up with my shooting practice several days a week. My family owns land here in the mountains of North Carolina, so I have a personal shooting range available 24/7/365. Lucky I know, 😆. I like to put a playing card on my target from 15 yards and see how many hits I can get SLOWLY adding pressure until the shot breaks. In my brain, I personally say "more...more...more" until she pops. Ive been doing this first thing on our range every session for several years. Its actually a lot of fun too. But very useful practice. I can confidently say that with my gun, sight and ammo I feel good about taking a head shot at 15 yards. I don't hit the tiny playing card every single time... but I am within an inch on any miss I have at this point. And my trigger game is on point 😆 This is something I can absolutely vouch for 100% no doubt, this will help any shooter of any level. I'm gonna go do this tomorrow now for sure 😆

So if you're a burglar and you break into john's house and hear "pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure" coming from the darkened hallway it's time to run out the door asap to cover your A$$ (ASP).

Great video! I say “ one pound two pounds three pounds four pounds five…boom! Just got a MantisX and it’s helped me a lot

Mate this is great,I'm shooting a recoiling air pistol ,my centre target hits just improved 100% almost immediately ! Top 👍

One important consideration is adding pressure quickly enough that fatigue doesn't end up causing your sights to start wobbling. Nice thing is that this is something you can practice all day long in the garage/basement with real ammo. Increasing the pressure ramp while holding the sights on target and feeling the trigger break while watching where your sights were placed when it did. It's a lot easier to do that with a dummy round and no bang disturbing the pistol after trigger break. You can really work on stopping anticipatory jerking and other movements. Shot IPSC for a while back in the 90's with some really great folks and good coaching like this really improves your accuracy. Reduced time comes with practice and focus on keeping the fundamentals sound while increasing the slope of movement over time.

As an instructor I do something similar to fight flinch, or shot anticipation errors. I tell my students that they have to psyche out their own reflexes, and to do that, just say to themselves, as they press the trigger, "I'm not gonna do it...I'm not gonna do it..." referring to the flinch. The effort required to think and say those words takes the mind temporarily off the bang that is coming, and focuses it back to the self, long enough to get the shot off. But I like this idea better and will try it soon.

@AndiRose21

2 жыл бұрын

This is really good.

@nicholasshackleferd

Жыл бұрын

I always say "How bout a little fire scarecrow"

Love the explanation of this. Can't wait to practice. Should help with the Dot Torture as well.

Nice. Thanks John. I like that. "add pressure". I tried it sitting here dry firing as I watched and can see it works well. I'm going to try it at the range today. Thank you

Wish you guys run 2 cams, with one zoomed in on target

So when do you start working on speed? Very good for beginners to learn proper trigger pull, but that'll never do in real life situation. At what point do you start to increase speed drills?

@neilweidner9361

2 жыл бұрын

there are more ways than one to look at that. I’d say that when you can get the hits at the distance you’re working at on a pretty consistent basis, you can work on adding speed.

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

You have to work this until you can do it on command.

The Army taught us that you should pull the trigger slowly and steadily. You should be “surprised” when the shot rings out. The idea being that you are not pulling the trigger quickly, thus knowing when the shot will ring out. Obviously, there is more to good shooting than that. Body posture and breathing are important too

fascinating topic .... and appreciate you all at EXTRA find the words to describe the concepts so eloquently. it really matters and it shows. hope you are all having a perfect week so far

Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely add it to my practice.

Portion sizes in the USA must be quite large.

@spconrad9612

2 жыл бұрын

🤩

Good stuff here; I'm slowing down and applying this myself.

I watched a video by Joel Turner if Shot IQ, and followed his suggestion of “keep pressing, keep pressing, etc” and had an immediate improvement in my 25 yard shots and started shoot 50 yards as a result. I’m now wanting to reach 100 yards and be able to hit 8 out of 10. At 100 yards, where is the point of aim in reference to the desired point of impact? Any other tips?

This is similar to trigger bumping exercise which help alot

One of the benefits of shooting a Double Action trigger I guess... Pressure pressure pressure is just how you shoot them lol. I actually really prefer this, and I find striker trigger's walls more like a speed bump as I work through the takeup; give me a smooth pulling DA instead. Down side is my DA gun is a j-frame revolver and the sight radius is so close... So I can do 10 yard headshots with my skill right now, which is partially gimped by my eyes still learning to focus properly and shoot both eyes open and partially gimped by my steadiness. Trigger and flinch are handled well though. I wish they made a red dot for j-frames, they make pistols 100 yard laser beams if you're capable. But my dot gun wasn't suitable for me to carry, so I sold it.

lol at the surprise ending 🤣 cracked me up

That was helpful

Very interesting. I will try this at the range this weekend. I think it could be the key to better accuracy.

Nice video, John! Thanks to all!

Excellent tip! Thank you

That second shot is better, gets the anxiety out of the way, that's why you should shoot daily.

@roybiv7018

2 жыл бұрын

Try adding dry-fire practice too. You get the muscle memory without the recoil and sound, so shooting isn't as connected to the anticipation. Some say 2:1 dry to live fire.

@kevinfreeman3098

2 жыл бұрын

@@roybiv7018 dude, I been doing this for well over thirty years, twenty in combat... Please do tell me how to make a kill shot under pressure and fire. 🙄

Nobody better mess me with unless you’re 16 yards away.

Great video and great concept.

Very helpful, thanks

helpful. I'll be trying that next range visit

Good tip, thanks.

Nest step is to speed it up a whole lot. If your student stops training there he will die in a real fight while still aiming! I figure that is where you were progressing to. My count is: UP (Raise sights to my eye line); ON (sight picture touches target); FIRE (break the shot quickly and cleanly). Total Lapsed time 2 seconds or less. Works for pistol or rifle (note: with pistol I am the firearm into the point I am shooting at) . Takes lots of practice but it can be learned. I was taught this by my neighbor, who was a Green Beret In Vietnam. You may want to start your student at 5 yards and move back in increments.

I ran into a problem at under 25 yards--my single-hand accuracy was better than my two-hand accuracy. Two hands were faster hits for me between five and one hundred yards, but at 25 yards or less my pistol accuracy was superior when I used only one hand. That didn't change when using artificial support such as a bench rest.

@alancranford3398

2 жыл бұрын

@@jl4093 Thanks. I'll have to give it a try. I might be able to get one of the other range officers to record me. I shot more accurately at 25 with a single hand either left or right hand and there is a bifocal eyewear issue. It's a swell show-off trick even though I'm not competitive with regular match shooters--popping off 12 ounce soda cans at 10 yards with one hand impresses those who have trouble hitting those cans from a bench rest at the same distance.

I would add a very firm grip to a slow trigger squeeze. Dont wait too long because your muscles will start to quiver. The firm grip coupled with a slow squeeze of the trigger improved my shooting. Once you commit to pulling the trigger back don't stop. Also consider the gun and lubrication. If the trigger pull is jumpy and snaggy consider cleaning the gun and lubricate all trigger mechanisms with grease. Oil areas you can't get to with grease. Why grease? It lasts longer than oil and stays put better. Examine gun parts for burrs not removed at the factory. Remove burrs with fine grit emery cloth until polished and then grease. Made a big difference in a 30:30 lever action rifle I own. Why the firm grip? The looser your grip the faster the gun will move from recoil possibly moving the muzzle before tbe bullet has a chance to exit. Remember, for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. The bullet has to travel the length of the barrel but the back of the cartrige is already in contact with the faceplate upon firing. According to the logic of Physics it is impossible for the bullet to exit the muzzle before recoil moves the gun. The best we can do is minimize that effect with a firm grip.

Do you aim normal for a 15 yard shot or aim a little higher? Using a Glock 22 180 grain

@ASPextra

Жыл бұрын

Should be within an inch of your point of aim.

Waiting for “get a rifle” 😆

Great video thanks

What camera crapped out on you? Not a GoPro, right?

I can make headshots at 15 yards consistently...it is all about dryfiring...a lot...a lot.

@hiskid13

2 жыл бұрын

…a lot, a lot, a lot… Safety First! And third

All very good, but how does this transfer to high stress, defense shooting that happens in seconds?

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

Add pressure with more velocity.

Wait, 15 yard "headshots" are hard? I shoot for speed from the draw with my G26 at 25 yards and make 4" groups easy, lol. I've spent an awful lot of money on ammo over the years though...

@neilweidner7037

2 жыл бұрын

Come to our dry fire group on FB and share your secrets!

@bushwacker2048

2 жыл бұрын

@@neilweidner7037 that's my secret, lots of dry fire, lol! Incessant, drive-my-wife-crazy-with-the-clicking- sound dry firing every day for 5 to 10 minutes at a time several times a day when not at work. Going to the range once a week didn't hurt either, but that was years ago, I'm lucky to hit the range once a month these days I don't go on Facebook much, but I might just do that, sounds fun

dam wish i knew you were headed to ft smith i would have paid your gas back to bring some of my tools back to Az with you. lol

There was a time I could make head shots from my little .380 LCP. I figured if an active shooter was at the mall I could be hero….assuming the bullets didn’t just bounce off the perp’s head.

I guess it’s just me but if I’m not touching my last shot I feel like I did something wrong haha 🤷‍♂️ I expect a few deviations but that’s because I’m human Lol otherwise I want 1 large hole!! 👍🏼

I can't talk while I'm shooting in messes me up

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

That’s Neil too!

Pressure; pressure; pressure; pressure; pressure, pressure, pressure...No pressure ..

After instruction, it would bug the hell out of me to hear "Add pressure" repeatedly distracting me. Part of me says I should and likely would tune it out, but I prefer to take instruction then focus. I couldn't help noticing that neither you nor your partner talked throughout most of your shooting.

@hiskid13

2 жыл бұрын

In John’s defense…it’s a video demonstration of a drill, not actually instructing You. Execution of the Instruction in-person would be different, and tailored to the student. As he says, “Add Pressure” is something the shooter says to themself. As an instructor, he’s demonstrating audibly the cadence and duration over which to apply the pressure (take your time, at least get in about 3x so you can focus and be smooth). Once the shooter demonstrates they understand the duration and cadence of trigger press, so as not to disturb the sights, they can take over saying it to themselves. John had the option of saying, “Add Pressure” aloud while he was shooting, but -as you like it- he was quietly executing the drill to himself.

And afterwards, we can go get some cheeseburgers!

@neilweidner9361

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t be disrespectful, we went for tacos….

My trick for 15 yard head shots Is to aim for the head and shoot the target. Doesn't hurt that I carry 1911's or a P-210.......

When i shoot i like to say to myself "to the end of the rainbow!"

How i train to hit a headshot at 15 yards is I hit a gallon jug at 30 yards...snapshot

@neilweidner7037

2 жыл бұрын

Right on! That sounds like a good time! I’d love to see that!

@DWalter.27

2 жыл бұрын

Now try at 100 yards, it's insanely fun!... Although I will say it does still involve some luck for me to connect vs just hit nearby; but I bet you can do it pretty well. I do it in front of my friends as a demonstration of what practice can do so that hopefully they take an interest in practicing.

Continue pressure once you start don’t stop

@colewestwood2906

2 жыл бұрын

Unless something changes and you no longer need to (or should) shoot. Another reason why I like the first shot being double action and being target focused through a RDS window. In dry fire, I will occasionally stop that DA press to remind myself to focus on the situation and be present in the moment.

@my3sons386

2 жыл бұрын

@@colewestwood2906 🤦‍♂️

This is all well and good if you are target shooting but in a gunfight the length of time it’s taking y’all to pull the trigger, you done been shot numerous times. In a deadly encounter you lose fine motor skills and will jerk trigger. Retired Sheriffs K9 Sgt, FBI firearms instructor, 10 year SRT sniper, entry team when sniper not needed. It’s way better to practice and learn point shooting. Forget the sights, forget trying to squeeze trigger, just shove gun straight at target till the gun clouds your vision the pull trigger, not squeeze but pull trigger. At close range you don’t have time to target shoot. Point shooting is fast and accurate if practiced until it becomes second nature. I never target shoot always train how you fight so that you don’t revert to target shooting when the SHTF.

I say “touch your nose.”

The mnemonic we learned in the Navy was BRASS: Breath Relax Aim Slowly Sqeeze. It was emphasized that when the weapon fired it should surprise the shooter. Edited for lexical aesthetic.

It ain't real unless its 10 in a row! lol

@neilweidner9361

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, I didn’t want to bore you with my amazing shooting!!

@alphaomega8373

2 жыл бұрын

@@neilweidner9361 Yeah ah ha

Faces in shadow!

I can do 130 ft headshots with a 10 mm EAA witness combat sport which is my carry pistol

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

Sure you can. Let's see it on video.

Show us the target, or it didn’t happen 😂

@neilweidner9361

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Just keep swimming... Please don't shoot anyone who doesn't need to be shot Right Now, that included you. Also, I laughed at your pain on the single point of failure with the camera. Been there and I ain't sorry at laughing instead of crying. One last bit, may I only ever put holes in animals that I want to eat or through paper? That would be great! even if I recently learned that I still have a 22% remaining lifetime chance of "must I?" still hanging as was the masons axe that "Clever Elsie" saw.

How cool would it be to have a name like Pressburg and chant, "Press . . . Press . . . Press".

@alphaomega8373

2 жыл бұрын

I always revive Pressburg in CK3

Is a 15 yard shot self defense or murder?

@ASPextra

8 ай бұрын

What was it when Jack Wilson did it in his church?

Can any of these folks run to cover?

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Did your mom fail to teach you to be polite?

@biker-dr1ne

2 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra She always taught me being fit was the first step in self defense. If you are weezing from an encounter it's hard to get those neurons firing efficiently. It also marks you as easier prey to street felons.

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

Then she taught you contrary to reality.

Am I the only one concerned about the lady in the video, who went to shoot and only had one round in the chamber? No magazine! I feel like she got to the range and someone said, “everybody unload” she took out the magazine leaving a live round in the chamber. ???

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

We are in range gear here. She wasn’t carrying that way.

Why does Good Luck America call you FT man?

Lol

My trick for 15 yard headshots is not banning 9mm LETS GO BRANDON

If you are going to make a head shot, in practice at range, put up a real face. You'll be surprised the psychological effect looking and shooting at a picture of a real face makes compared to shooting at a faceless target. Especially from the draw.

At 15 yards I ignore the sights and point the handgun. Close enough and much faster. Ain't no sights at night anyway.

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

That’s. Very poor way to think about defensive firearms use.

@yokoshemp

2 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra I practice which makes a difference. Passed my last range test without sights. Up close I point that thing and at a distance yes sights are the thing. Military rated me an Expert 40 years ago... bifocals screw with sights. Biggest lesson of my military time was "know your ability and your limits". In the dark there are no sights... a little pointing practice is a good thing in my little rural world. Thanks for the reply... always interested in what you have to say.

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

So now you're planning on shooting in the dark?

@yokoshemp

2 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra I have asked all prowlers time and time again to only show up in the day time. They just don't listen. I had to shoot a raccoon after dark. There was something wrong with it and I didn't want to take the chance of it being rabid. Flashlight in one hand and .357 in the other... one shot. Only shot I've had to take after sundown. I had fooled around with point shooting but after that it became a regular part of handgun practice.

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

The light in your hand absolutely illuminates the bumpy things on top of the gun if you're using it right. :)

If you have time for a head shot, that works well, but I've yet to see a gun fight where you have the combination of time, shooting a stationary target, and shooting from a stationary position. And if you're shooting from a stationary position at that distance, you're just making yourself an easy target for whoever is shooting back at you. Cover is good, but rarely available at these distances and within the 1.5 - 2 seconds to react, you should have your first round on the bad guy from a holster, either concealed or open carry. What I did, with an empty gun, was at the first point you said "pressure" I began pulling the trigger on my empty handgun. I pulled it 20 x before you broke your shot. Great concept, but not very practical in reality. Add to what I said above with the stress of being in a gun fight, and possibly being shot at, and this concept is just not practical. It's also the reason LEOs train for center of mass. I have a background as a LE firearms instructor with over 25 years' experience.

@ronnie32567

2 жыл бұрын

Read my comment just above yours, I said the very same thing.

@pmular

2 жыл бұрын

Look up white settlement Texas church shooting. Then tell me what you think.

Pro tip- slow the fuck down ;-)

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

No, we don't slow down. Be more careful.

@03bugeye

2 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra or cheat your draw like Neil and Range Monkey do

@joshmajor8662

2 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra haha 😂 you beat me to it John Lol

@papimaximus95

2 жыл бұрын

"No, we don't slow down. Be more careful." Those 2 things are NOT mutually exclusive. One example of being more careful can be to slow down. Telling someone to be more careful is really not enough without examples of what behavior/actions they should focus on. For example, to tell a daughter to be careful at the party tonight is way too broad. A better statement is to be careful by avoid taking drinks from strangers, stay together with your friends, etc. I normally instruct people to be more deliberate (careful) when shooting those more accurate shots by telling them to verifying the sight picture (verbally to themselves), concentrating on pressing the trigger straight back to the rear and maintaining the sight picture through the shot (no peeking). Those are the "careful"/"deliberate" actions I want them to focus on.

John acting like me in schools trying not I get caught plagiarizing.

LOOOLLL

🤣

Hard to take a man, even a man with a gun serious when he has little ears on his head.

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

Ask your doctor if lightening up is for you! ;)

@myrrhavm

2 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra Have Kaiser, the epitome of socialized medicine. Don’t bother going. Doesn’t every doctor tell us us we can stand to lose some pounds? Not what you mean, I know.

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

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never aim just shoot.......

15 yard headshots? Really? Why so close. Where I am from we do it at 50 yards. But our standard is higher.

Dude please do not. Stay with film break downs

@ASPextra

2 жыл бұрын

You must be new to this channel.

Nobody can afford to practice these days.