Fantastic presentation Nate. Your work has helped inspire my young family to sell our suburban home, build a tiny home, learn about solar ovens, embrace HomeBioGas, begin permaculture gardens, become 100% debt free, collect rainwater, move from high-regulation metro area to a low-regulation rural area, and begin our own great simplification before our hand is forced. I've been wanting this lifestyle for a decade, and your work validates my gut feeling to live more simply. KEEP GOING NATE!

I have such admiration for Nate, his work and the decades of dedication to such a daunting, uphill battle. A real beacon of hope.

I am thrilled to the point of tears, that the big brain and the sincere heart of Nate Hagens is being more broadly recognized. From my limited point of view, his thoughts and efforts represent the veritable antithesis of our contemporary geo-political and bio-physical "metabolism". Sense-making, truth-telling and balance seem to be his focus, contrary to the geo-political dynamic that is undermining human civilization now.

@WGPower_Nonchalant_Cafe

18 күн бұрын

The Rich ain't going to pay more they will end up gutting the middle class... It will be tax breaks for the wealthy and austerity for everyone else

@ouimetco

18 күн бұрын

Yes I recommend him to everyone I contact with any concern about future

@TheFlyingBrain.

18 күн бұрын

Same.

@basmasymington2504

17 күн бұрын

⁠likewise

@renke69

16 күн бұрын

My primary source of information ❤

every middle school and high school student should watch this at least once a year.

@TheSkypeConverser

15 күн бұрын

u first!!

Nate this was really fantastic. I am going to send it around to colleagues. My sense is they(Oceanographers, Atmospheric Scientists, Polar Scientists, Physicists, Engineers) know the problems well but are just like everyone else and live a business as usual life. Modernity is a subtle trap, and so is the hyper-competitive grant process. I often feel we are simply recording the decline rather than making real change or breaking free. Non-scientists may have suspicions of our work and see it as a WEF conspiracy to eat zee bugs. I do not know how to avail them of these beliefs but you have made significant inroads. You have my gratitude and thanks!

@ricos1497

18 күн бұрын

I guess that there we're talking about two separate things here. The first is you and your colleagues sterling scientific work outlining the problem, and the second is the response to that problem. There has been a significant push to co-opt the solution to climate change (and, to a lesser extent, ecological collapse), and point it towards the best interests of already rich and powerful people (bugs, own nothing and be happy etc). The proposed "solutions" leave people - already disenfranchised - feeling that they have no agency; that a top-down solution is being imposed on them. They fail to realise that they are already in a system that is a top-down, domestication for most humans, recognising their material objects such as large cars and big houses as a source of freedom, rather than questioning why they need such things in the first place. This causes a circular backlash, where they shoot the original scientific messenger, rather than contemplate reality. I believe that the way to avail people of those beliefs is to offer them agency. Ask for their help, and ask for their sacrifice. That doesn't, and will never, come in the form of asking them to purchase an electric car, rent a self-driving car, buy a processed vegan meal or whatever. I haven't seen or heard a politician within our system (I'm in the UK, but the same could be said for the US or anywhere in Europe) present the positive case for less consumption for example. The mechanisms for them to do so don't exist in that political system.

@stefc7122

14 күн бұрын

The point you make about hyper-competition is an issue for any pursuit starting as a child. I think this extreme is causing too many issues for the mental and physical well being of our children and therefore society as a whole.

Thank you Nate. As a public speaker working as a geospatial analyst I have made a pivot to sharing these ideas on the stages where I am invited. I bring the ideas of Mario Giampietro, Geoffrey West, Art Berman and of course Daniel Schmachtenberger along as well--thanks to your big conversations.

An Invitation to Academia. ❤

Great audiobook. Can’t wait for the print edition! You’ve packed a lot of information & ideas into one presentation, but it never gets old. At its core is your conception of energy, which I find most compelling. In fact, it’s brilliant & original. The interdisciplinary systems approach is greatly needed in a world of specialists who remind me of the parable of the blind men trying to identify the elephant based on their respective experience with different parts of the animal's body. Your concept of simplification is much preferable to “degrowth,” but essentially you are advocating degrowth - at least as I understand your message. Your approach avoids ideological jargon that can be so off-putting & that is refreshing. Hopefully it means a larger audience will be receptive rather than defensive & dismissive. All in all, it’s a cohesive & compelling argument for fundamental change.

@robinschaufler444

17 күн бұрын

"Advocating for degrowth" doesn't quite describe The Great Simplification, Mr. Stump. Rather, Dr. Hagens observes that degrowth is already happening, and will accelerate as fossil depletion proceeds. What I think Nate advocates is getting out in front of the curve. It is much less agonizing to EXERCISE AGENCY in How you degrow than to have degrowth FORCED UPON YOU by the laws of physics and the biosphere. He summarizes this philosophy in his oft repeated meme, "Simplify now and avoid the rush."

@JB-yg3ew

9 күн бұрын

Nate has a book called Reality Blind

This is what I was waiting for. Thanks Nate. It's obvious you have spent an extraordinary amount of time and energy trying to move us forward > toward changing our trajectory. This trajectory begins with our human understanding of the complexity of the issues. You laid it out. Gracias.

Great video, it's perfect for sharing as it sums the metacrisis up for people asking for a comprehensive explanation with facts accompanied by numbers and graphs, something impossible to provide at a short chat with colleagues, family members or friends when trying to give them a full picture of how many things are completely wrong and to what extent we have already destroyed our only home... Thanks a lot again for you awesome work Nate!! :)

Fantastic job, Nate. We need to talk, though, about how common it is in nature for growth systems to overshoot and-sometimes-respond in the right way. That's by repurposing their resources previously for compounding to instead devote to care and coordination instead. That's easily verified as nature's main successful way of ending growth and maturing rather than destroying what grew.

I'm amazed by the depth of your presentation and how you simplyfied topics such as energy and our economics. The link and interactions of all these different fields is something I never really figured out, but your video gave me a this very much needed explanation. As a student myself, who was already aware some ways of this direction our civilisation is heading, this video really helped me find meaning in my studies. Even though many people may not be ready for the reality presented in this video, I still think it very important that as many schools and universities possible are shown this video, including my own. I really appreaciated your human and realistic point of view.

Excellent! Nothing will happen as the rich and powerful who could do something won't as they feel they will be the last to suffer and they are probably right.

@daytime12

9 сағат бұрын

I understand your point, but at 45 :12 Nate makes the point that the rich and powerful are not at fault here, it is the market driving us all. Manufacturers produced stuff and I purchased stuff. I cannot put all the blame on their shoulders. We are all going to have to change and work together for a better future.

A Swiss federal report on plastics in the environment, published on September 23, 2022, found that tire and road wear is one of the leading causes of microplastic pollution in the country. The resulting particles are made up of 60% rubber, 30% soot and 10% heavy metals. Over 13,500 metric tons of these particles are generated in Switzerland every year, and some 8,900 metric tons of that amount are released into our air, soil and water. (How many electric cars, which are heavier than conventional, are going to still generate more pollution than we are already. Its not exhaust but its still pollution)

@ricos1497

18 күн бұрын

I have a thirteen year old electric car (Nissan Leaf). I reckon I can probably get another 2-3 years out of it on the existing battery for my use case (not applicable to others of course). After that point, I have looked into changing the battery, but have come to the conclusion that it isn't worth it. The chassis is beginning to show signs of rust, and there is a lot of work needed to the car in general (both in other maintenance, plus upgrading to things like AC system, in-car electronics etc) that could make it cost prohibitive. I am quite hands on, and would be happy to take on the task of switching out the battery myself, but the battery is still expensive and difficult to come by (at the moment, it appears that second hand batteries from write-offs are the best source, but that comes with risk attached). Whilst I was a very early adopter of an EV, there is still no real market for battery switching. Moreover, the entire industry is reliant on there not being a market for switching. It is a market designed around people changing their cars with regularity, and cars lasting around 10-15 years before being scrapped. It wouldn't surprise me if newer cars with "auto-pilot" features have planned obscelescence built into their software. Of course, that could completely change, with legislation to force manufacturers to make cars that last (say) 50 years, but even then that is a small period of time in the scheme of things (and extremely unlikely to happen!). In short, EVs fall into the nebulous category of "more sustainable", which is just a bollocks term to allow business as usual to continue without addressing the fundamental issues of a particular problem.

@antonyjh1234

18 күн бұрын

And they are tiny, a french study found that I can't find now, had hundreds of thousands of microplastics, per gram of food. Some people/countries eat 15 grams a month, so 10 kilograms over 60 years. All the bread wrappers, food containers etc, single use, all have bits of plastic falling off. I used to leave coffee in the bag until i shone a torch through the bag one day and could see all the internal silver was coming off each time i unwrapped the bag, we really are leaving a layer of oil all over the place, even in us.

@dbadagna

17 күн бұрын

I read last week that each 1 km of travel in a motor vehicle produces 1 trillion microplastic particles, and that in some areas of the world's oceans, the majority of microplastics actually seem to originate from the tire wear you mention, which washes into the sea via watersheds.

@dbadagna

17 күн бұрын

@@antonyjh1234 An Italian study from 2020 entitled "Micro- and nano-plastics in edible fruit and vegetables. The first diet risks assessment for the general population" found microplastics in fruits and vegetables (especially apples and carrots, whose roots are more porous) ranging between between 52,050 and 233,000 particles per gram (!) of fruits or vegetable.

@antonyjh1234

17 күн бұрын

@@dbadagna Thanks, that was the one, I got the country wrong. I think they found carrots to have the largest pieces which would make sense. These particles are falling on the land 24-7 and each rain washes them further down, if they can enter our blood stream they can go up the roots of a tree. With crops being half of the chemical damage done to our bodies through sprays, how much more is done ingesting plastic. Wild.

The first time I ever heard the term "tree hugger" was 27 years ago. A co-worker called me that for hanging a beautiful poster of sea creatures on the wall of my office cubicle. How anyone could possibly react negatively to such an awesome poster completely mystified me. I never wanted to raise children so never had any, but this guy had two young daughters he loved very much. Sometimes when I see videos like Nate's, I think of him and his daughters and wonder: does he still think people who care about our oceans are just a bunch of stupid tree huggers?

I think a lot of people say they want to support the green transition but when they have to give up their travel to italy they are willing to wait to next year for saving the planet.

@derekmiller8564

17 күн бұрын

Exactly Including Mr. Visit India Nate H.

@robinschaufler444

17 күн бұрын

@@derekmiller8564 Nate's visit was a medical emergency. Without the limbic reset, we might have lost him, at least from his vital public role, if not from life itself. While we still have fossil sunlight in circulation, let's use it wisely, and distinguish between travel for health, family emergencies, and potentially productive meetings from travel for pleasure and status.

@pluribus

14 күн бұрын

@@derekmiller8564 Excerpt from Laura K Kerr, PhD "At Times Hypocrisy is the Best We Can Do" follows: In "My Green Manifesto", nature writer David Gessner shared of paddling down the Charles River with environmentalist Dan Driscoll as Driscoll spoke of the need for hypocrites in the green movement: “We nature lovers are hypocrites of course,” Dan says. “We are all hypocrites. None of us are consistent. The problem is that we let that fact stop us. We worry that if we fight for nature, people will say ‘But you drive a car’ or ‘You fly a lot’ or ‘You’re a consumer, too.’ And that stops us in our tracks. It’s almost as if admitting that we are hypocrites gets people off the hook. We need hypocrites who aren’t afraid of admitting it but will still fight for the environment. We don’t need some sort of pure movement run by pure people. We need hypocrites!” Gessner promotes a sloppy environmentalism - “An army of flawed and sloppy hypocrites” - one that lacks the drama of saints and villains and instead fits the contradictory nature of humankind. Hypocrite has several meanings, including a person whose behavior opposes their stated beliefs (Driscoll Gessner’s notion), or someone who carries a false appearance of being virtuous. Yet it is the original meaning given by the Greeks - a deficiency in a person’s ability to decide - that is the kind of hypocrite I believe would benefit from sloppy environmentalism. This latter concept of hypocrite describes many of us as we try to care for nature while fulfilling other responsibilities, desires, and needs. We need a sloppy environmentalism, because frankly, given the demands taxing our green choices, sloppy may be the best many of us can do.

@poockoo

12 күн бұрын

​@@derekmiller8564well, it depends on the other activities that Nate does. In general everyone should have some kind of feedback on their emissions, which could be through some sort of emission/carbon fee. It would be useful to see how different lifestyle choices compare in the long run.

Thanks. The key is to foster altruism by raising awareness about the concept of fundamental emotional needs. Once everyone understands that practically everyone will be a benefit to society if all their needs have been met since conception AND that absolutely everyone will become a burden or a danger to all if their needs aren't met at any point in their life.

Thanks, good talk. It was a little heavy on the patos, but maybe that's just a cultural thing. Jason Hickel has similar ideas, but he's less pessimistic. Btw,, a bit of gardening advice: If you allready have ducks, employ them, they are good workers. Let them graze the weeds in your potato patch. They won't touch the poisonus potato leaves, but they love the juicy annuals and the worst weed of all, grass.. This is a well proven method. they also work great as weeders in rice fields.

I don't believe academics are ignorant of the ramifications of 1st world living and are "energy blind." Be an interesting experiment to set up a website where anonymity was assured and construct a survey to find out what the scope and depth of the general academic understanding of the metacrisis is and what fears and apprehensions academics have with respect to "coming out" and moving some of these ideas forward. I suspect a conflict of interest with endowments and those consequences would be high up on that list.

@antonyjh1234

18 күн бұрын

A tank of diesel has as much energy as a total australian summers electrical use with the air con going 24-7, actually a little more at 3.5 months. We are all energy blind if we use this energy to go skiing for instance, people I know still think planning a driving holiday is a great idea. How many people believe that in 26 years they will have reduced their consumption 90 percent, very few people I know do and academics have the greatest responsibility to teach the truth and seem by their actions, to be doing the least. If endowments and coming out about the truth is where they at then what is the point of academia? If they are not ignorant, then does that make them more complicit to maintain the current system, and should not be called academics but businessmen?

I've listened to parts of this multiple times, I can already tell this is going to be a go-to reference going forward. Thanks, Nate!

Wow! One of the greatest presentations on the complexity of our modern day world including the steps we can start to take right now. Really grateful for your work, thank you!

Wauw, such deep respect for this men. Our trajectory is daunting and I deeply belief that the goodness that you can see in the eyes of Nate is really what we need in the world right now.

Still trying to get my head around the volume of trends charted by Nate. Thanks Nate for the effort and the inspirational effect. ❤

I haven’t seen your shows pop up on my feed for months just assumed you were having a break! Boy was I wrong .

Thanks Nate!

An excellent overview. Something I can share with those who are ready to hear the message. Namaste, Nate 🙏

Thank you Nate, a great job compressing this large teaching into one large bite.

Hello! Great work, at about 1 hour 10 min in I would really love to see you improve your discourse around India and China as the need for power has much more to do with global power than fans and ACs. Thank you!

Hi Nate, I’ve been following you and Schmachtenberger and a few others in this space for a couple of years now. This is an excellent synthesis of so much work and sense making that I recognize from many previous podcasts. Thank you! Can you maybe provide references and citations in the notes to this video? This is such a difficult discussion to effectively disseminate. I will personally go to bat with this video in hand, but people will push back. So I would love to map this out with underlying data folded into it.

@thegreatsimplification

17 күн бұрын

There are refs on bottom of most slides but I’ll see what I can do

@magrooster

17 күн бұрын

Man. The carbon pulse graph really hits hard. The implications are absolutely terrifying. There should be an entire documentary just on this topic.

@thegreatsimplification

17 күн бұрын

@@magrooster kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZX52lI9vg5e5g7A.htmlsi=Bo5-ZM9n9kahYEKX

@magrooster

17 күн бұрын

@@thegreatsimplification lol…well…I meant like an Inconvenient Truth level documentary narrated by Morgan Freeman.

This is essentially The Great Simplification’s Bingo Card. You really do cover so much of your work in this one presentation. I am making efforts to try and break these concepts up for folks in my area who have no background in environmental studies, and this presentation will be a massive help. I think a lot of “regular” people know something is wrong but can’t conceptualize it while they are also trying to survive in the modern world. Thank you so much for what you do, Nate. Your work inspires me to keep going in an increasingly depressing world.

Nate since I first got glowed to your podcast in the beginning of this year was approximately about 20 thousand podcasts I can not express why your easy understanding of what our true implications that shall challenge our ways of not only of stress but more so so to be truly prepared for what our future challenges behold Thank you so endearingly for your wise learnings from your incredibly wise guests 🕊🌏😇❤️

I smile and imagine an old hickory standing over-watch on a field of young veggies, it's trunk grinning at the magic and wonderment of all the life growing at its feet when I hear Nate. He provides his assessment of current existence and challenges us to be realistic and encourages us to act for our collective behalf. I fear, however, that my experience of the great simplification will be of little impact and far too late. But, I'll try anyway. Thanks Nate.

ore grade is a lot like EROI. Will listen to this one today. thanks Nate !

Thank you, Nate! It's awesome to hear your lastest presentation of the big picture in one go! I love the clearer articulation of ideas on where to go forward. Please don't forget that self-care is community service!

Thanks Nate. Really enjoyed the conversation. I never bought into Jevons paradox. If humans were actually intelligent and had a true conscience, they would understand the reason why they shouldn't travel any farther than they can walk.

@user-zc7eu8qf4v

18 күн бұрын

Disagree! Sailing with non-fossil fuel inputs is fine, as is going on horseback or etc. Going to far places is great for mixing DNA, which creates hybrid vigor, and learning new ideas. And trade.

@driftlesshermit9731

12 күн бұрын

​Sailing is a pretty cool way to get around ,overshoot is the problem, probably bestto keepyourdna to yourself@@user-zc7eu8qf4v

What a blessing this talk again (while all topics are known for me after listening all the stuff of Nate..) What a delight Kira was there.. Next stop: Kira in the podcast of Nate...

Thank you, Nate.

Here for it. Thanx Nate.

Nate, that was informative and inspirational. The world is a better place with you in it!

thank you!!!!!!!!

THIS IS IT

Don't forget the 500-600 dead zones in the oceans!

Thank you Nate for your so precious work! This allows me to share your comprehensive presentation on this hard topic.

🙏SHARE 🤝Best Revelation of how our competitive consumption mindset Must Change for a Sustainable Future for our children 👪 Do not fight mother Nature...she will Win🌻 All Must live in harmony with each other & develop a new Sustainable Energy Lifestyle with our Earth 🌅🐢

to learn more about regenerative agriculture, its benefits, look into AEA Advancing Eco Agriculture.

Nate have you considered interviewing Dr Zach Bush M.D ? I think he dovetails well with your projects and audience of seekers

Really wonderful presentation Nate! Wow. I mean that. Sincerely. Our species is going to lose all of its habitat because of temperature increase in the next couple of years no matter what we do. Unless you fudge the baseline yet again, we haven't seen +1.5°C in well over a year, and we never will again. The temperature increase is accelerating as we speak. Good Luck, Be Well.

But if we don’t burn fossil fuels or have fossil fuels to burn then that’s industry gone. So then what of the aerosol masking effect?

@kurtklingbeil6900

17 күн бұрын

Well ... Deep dive your whattaboutism and report your findings ...

@robinschaufler444

17 күн бұрын

James Hansen calls this the Faustian Bargain. When all human fossil combustion ends, the earth will continue to warm as it rectifies the energy imbalance in the atmosphere (Hansen's latest Warming In the Pipeline paper) and as heat transfers back to the atmosphere from the ocean. We need to reforest, restore prairies and wetlands, and restore ocean life from sea grass and kelp forests to coral reefs to sequester carbon as much as possible as heat flows to restore balance.

@timeenoughforart

17 күн бұрын

The question is do we want to face the aerosol masking effect now when we have resources and a culture, or latter when everything has gone to hell. Now at the present level of ecological "health" or latter when they are further decimated. Converting to rocket stoves for heating and cooking might help slow the effects.

Hey Nate, would love to see Simon Michaux back on. There is a German company CMBlu that builds metal free batteries (Redox Flow) and I wonder whether his conjecture still holds in light of this technology that is already on the market!?

Thanks so much, Nate! This was great!

Really many good ideas. But renewables are less bad as you think and redraw CO2 from the air and sequester it in the soil etc is really laborious. So we need the energy transition really urgently. We need to reduce overproduction really fast and improve the fair distribution. We need restrictions and better taxes. ❤ Thank you very much! ❤

I've said a million billions times..."An economic system that worships endless growth in not going to work on a finite planet".

Thanks Canada!

Yes, sustainability courtesy of Chinese solar panels, who start up a new coal-fired power plant roughly every week.

1:18:40 . Biochar is not new, it has been used for thousands or years. Terra preta.

A very ambitious presentation--perhaps somewhat too much to take in at one go, but congratulations for putting it all in one place. Education at the university level, and especially in the humanities, needs to change so has to create communities of young scholars who bounce ideas off each other and their mentors while providing the community support needed for long, hard thought on the issues we face. It's time to junk the lecture as the main form of education at that level and turn to discussion within a community context.

I can't help but wonder if Nate is a fan of Isaac Asimov's Foundation. 🤔

Hi Nate, great presentation again. And hopefully with a profound multiplier effect regarding your audience. You mentioned that our multiplier effects may be more important than our individual behavior changes. From my point of view, however, I only get the perspective of true mental health when my personal lifestyle (at least its basic building blocks) could principally be copied and pasted to 10 billion humans on this planet (Kant’s categorical imperative applied) . Otherwise you continue to exist in cognitive dissonance. So my advice would imply much more simplification in a much shorter timespan than most people in the West might imagine as „doable“ right now (e.g. no flying, no car, no fossil applications generally, small flat, vegan diet, no pets etc.). Yes, I know……. In my view the observable right shift in Western politics has a lot to do with the fact that academics (and other leading figures in society) present the global predicament but as individuals do not act according to their own analyses.

For centuries, Canada has been pushing for the clearing of the north west passage. Can we postpone our efforts for a sustainable future until we have melted the ice? How can Canada and Russia make the most from our relative advantage?

@kurtklingbeil6900

17 күн бұрын

Huh? and Meh! There is no legitimacy whatever to the Brrritisch North American colonialists aspirations for a full-scale assault on the polar regions Yikes! Whoooosh! The sound of the core points flying overhead..

@jacquesvincelette6692

17 күн бұрын

Oh the Cuckoo, She's a pretty bird. She warbles as she flies. She brings us good tidings. And she never tells a lie. How often, do I wonder Why women, love men And I look back, and I wonder Why men, are men.

1:45:56 Do you have the exact reference for the quote ("when a system is far from equilibrium, small islands of coherence can shift the entire system"), with the book title and the page number ? Is it really a quote from Ilya Prigogine or could it be from someone else ?

@dbadagna

15 күн бұрын

This quotation seems not to have appeared in print any earlier than 2012, though Prigogine died in 2003.

@user-wb2gx2gp1n

10 күн бұрын

@@dbadagna Justin McGuirk wrote : "It is sometimes wrongly attributed to I. Prigogine and I. Stengers, Order Out of Chaos: Man’s New Dialogue with Nature, Bantam Books, 1984". .... I don't mind if it is not from Prigogine, but I wish someone knowledgeable in thermodynamics could study this quote, do the maths if need be, and conclude whether it is reasonable to assume that Prigogine might have said so, and if there is a scientific basis to this.

@dbadagna

10 күн бұрын

@@user-wb2gx2gp1n I don't think this quote occurs in the book you mention.

54:00 - 5 Horsemen 54:16 - 1st Horseman , Financial 54:55 - 55:07 - 55:15 - 55:29 - 56:00 - 2nd Horseman , Geopolitics 57:55 - 2rd Horseman , Complexity 58:31 - 4th Horseman , The Social Contract 59:11 - 5th Horseman , Ecological Damage

My municipality is about to create a new ten year comprehensive plan. I wish to influence the process to draw on the lessons of the Great Simplification and the healing of energy blindness. The mayor demands an elevator pitch, but the shortest presentations on youtube consonant with this message take 50 minutes. The chair of the environment committee is such a committed techno-optimist that he referred to a diagram I passed around to elected officials as neither informative nor thought provoking, and responded to Alice J. Friedemann's book, Life After Fossil Fuels: a Reality Check on Alternative Energy with the words, "I'm in favor of nuclear." End of story. Please help me with a 3 minute elevator pitch!

Nate, as always, I am deeply grateful for your work - I believe it is vital to our shared future. 🙏 Are your presentation slides publicly available? I often find myself longing to study them more closely and contemplate them more slowly.

Thank you Nate!!!!

🌞🤝🌞🤝🌞

Had to replay a section at around 9:20 when you said 100 million, barrel of oil equivalents of energy and thought that's not right but when i looked at the slide i saw it was in fact 100 billion so, i'll give you that as an honest slip in the narrative.

@thegreatsimplification

17 күн бұрын

sorry - I spent all my energy creating the slidedeck - i was running on fumes! Yes - thanks for pointing out the mistake - we use 100 million barrels of oil per day, but 100 BILLION barrel of oil equivalents of oil/coal/NG per year. Thanks

Regarding 4 horsemen: have you given any thought to a solution set of responses that might satisfy both a Green Growth Economy and the Great Simplification scenario concurrently? I can imagine a future humanity that contains a small fraction of GGE (maybe in the form of a few massive “utopianesque” epicenters) en route to a predominantly GS paradigm.

thank you very much !!

Nate, I've just started the video but I want to thank you again for the content you're giving us for free. It's inspiring and deeply insightful.

The problem is Nate, you're not telling people what they want to hear - so they'll just continue to ignore you, I'm afraid. Drill, baby, drill. Dig, baby, dig etc. I've been following this stuff since the 70s - What difference has been made ?

Thank you for this work and presentation.

Excellent, but the perplexing omission is albedo. It is likely that the physical darkening of the world (by 2% so far this century) will cause system collapse through accelerating feedbacks.

@thegreatsimplification

13 күн бұрын

Each of these sections could have been its own 2 hour presentation - especially the climate/environment one. My hope is this is reasonably functional as a “hologram” to get more people aware, concerned and involved

Go Nate!

thank you for this... I am ready to add my efforts to help. Work at the local level?...

Thanks Nate for your great work!

Great, thank you 🙏

Hi. im here to discuss these issues.

Please let us know how Academia RSVPs.

Brilliant presentation, Nate. Well done

The energy blind slide will need more explanation. The many professors about the planet ought to tour the energy systems within their grand campuses. I recommend the boiler room first. Then think about the teaching climate as these energy inputs are jeopardized.

@RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner

17 күн бұрын

In the past I was a solar salesman who described these devices as renewable. I'm sorry I didn't know any better for a time. Then I began to describe these devices as extensions of fossil energy. I got traction with this idea in comparing the differences in using finite fossil energy. For instance, the same energy produced to travel versus producing/transporting/installing/maintaining these devices. On a personal level to whom I mostly offered these wares, once the fuel used to travel is consumed its over. The fuel will never again be used. However, the fuel used in and for these devices will continue to produce energy for a time. An extension of the fossil fuel. When the price for fossil fuel increases, this already paid for device energy production mostly does not. Think locking in the energy production price for 30 years! Just can't scale it so get your personal device today! I don't know the formula in how much energy was needed to have a device operating on a house compared to how much energy that device will produce. All this is for graduate students and such to work out the details as they are about the only people who have the ability & time.

@RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner

17 күн бұрын

"Indistinguishable from magic [miracle] in human timescales".

@RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner

17 күн бұрын

Financialized the explanation of the economy! Priceless.

@RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner

17 күн бұрын

Insects are increasing on my holdings. I recently learned firefly larvae eats slugs...

@RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner

17 күн бұрын

Being a deer hunter I am more concerned about fawn baby production!

Best invention is the solar-charged electrical velomobile, much more efficient than the food calorie powered upright bicycle.

@Cpt_JaK

12 күн бұрын

depends on the sourcing of the materials of either & the sourcing of the food that powers the cyclist.

@yetao5801

6 күн бұрын

@@Cpt_JaK No, it does not. The energy return on investment (EROI) of current agricultural calories is in the 0.01-0.3 range. Traditional agriculture based on human and draft animal labor has an EROI of about 3 for grains. The EROI of renewable electricity is up to 15.

Fantastic presentation. I hope there's no limit on KZread "shares" because as I watched I thought of quite a few people I want to send this to as a "must" watch. One comment: I do want to re-listen, and I'm going on memory now, but it seemed that Nate was not keen early on about the use of "renewable." It is a "meme" and clearly (in my mind) a "feel good" word and too mushy to be of any use. Later in the presentation Nate did use "renewable" as a sort of normalized concept. I think we need to toss "renewable" into the dustbin of useless, and sometimes manipulative words, along with "clean energy" (it's not). That said, I think we need to use the word "nonrenewable" as often as we possibly can to remind people of the finite nature of what we extract. What we take and use is gone largely forever. As to energy sources for the future, I think we need to start express what we'll be doing (and what was done for most of the life of life on earth) is to "harvest" energy. In recent times, solar panels directly harvest the energy coming from the sun; wind and water derive their power that we convert because of solar energized processes; and of course plant life "harvests" solar energy through photosynthesis, storing that energy for it's own needs, and so much of life (we humans too), get our energy from the trophic chain. [The energy my brain and muscles, etc., are now using came not long ago from the sun!!] I can get excited about "harvesting" solar energy directly and indirectly. And the garden vegetables Nate talked about provide hands on participation in energy harvesting.

Walkable neighborhoods, with necessities nearby would reduce carbon emissions because people would not have to drive cars so much.

Heard something on a hunting podcast that got me thinking. If the environmentalists realized that the wildlife conservationists are on their side and began a coalition with groups like Ducks Unlimited, I think the sheer mass of those concerned about soils, land use and industrial pollution could be another force of nature.

@kurtklingbeil6900

17 күн бұрын

... or .... Perhaps the wildlife conservationists could up their game and get on board and broaden their scope without being herded and prodded and babysat? Perhaps those with the guns could leverage their steel into the subtle co-ercive force required to snap the interest-conflicted influence-peddlers in governance structures out of their malfeasant psychosociopathy?

Forced anything never works.

As far as change, the top 25% of people are going to fall the most, may be hard for the top 40% but there could be a great settling as we age as a population. 25% of people don't have bank accounts, maybe the middle class if they own their home will be fine once they turn their lawns into gardens.

lol Tiger Woods and the peacock, I’m going to be laughing about that all day

@stacymalkan7430

16 күн бұрын

Because otherwise I would cry. This is a fantastic presentation, thank you Nate. On the sperm counts dropping and insects crashing, it’s not just PFAS but many petrochemicals used to make stuff and grow food. It’s all related. We have to change the way we’re doing everything.

@dbadagna

15 күн бұрын

@@stacymalkan7430 I just read that driving an automobile 1 km creates 1 trillion microplastic particles (from the friction of the tires on the road).

What happens when we drain all the oil from the earth and we have an asteroid impact and the earth plates have no lubricant to bear the impact?

@keithredfield991

18 күн бұрын

It just bounces off

@beefandbarley

18 күн бұрын

Banana peels

@driftlesshermit9731

18 күн бұрын

Hopefully it happens soon so there might be a few lifeforms that survive to regreen the planet until the sun burns out.

Ahhh... the declining rate of profits, the scourge of the socioeconomic system which has seen its days, and which should be rightly abolished, in order to bring ALL of Humanity out of poverty, and as well, ensure the global environment is kept in such a state which ensures the survival of ALL of the planet's life. We as a species OWE it to the remaining species to bring in a new and better mode of Human endeavor. We can start by eating the rich, then building more rail lines with that massive windfall...

"Avoid the Shallows!" Junk food, Pornography, Social Media, TV, Drugs, and Civilization. I can no longer be with sunsets, rainbows, thunder storms, flocks of migrating birds for extended periods of time with out an extreme act of self will. The sad part is that I am probably better at it than 99.9% of my fellow Americans. It is my understanding of worship.

At 4 horses a row, 100,000 horses pulling a plane would be about half a mile long.

@ricos1497

18 күн бұрын

Really, it should have been unicorns he used as the analogy for the plane. Otherwise an excellent presentation!

@jjeremyhunterr

18 күн бұрын

If a horse is 2m long and there's 25000 rows, thats 50000m, or 50km

Aww heeeell no! You didn't just dis video games!!11

A "more sustainable" future does not exist. Only a 'less unsustainable' future might be possible.

@dbadagna

15 күн бұрын

And on top of this we've tasked future generations with safely maintaining the reactors at the world's 400+ nuclear power plants indefinitely into the future.

A Guided Meditation lol

The Limits to Growth (1972) predicts a massive and sustained drop in human population starting around 2040, but it could probably start even by 2035, about 10 years away. Driven by resource depletion and collapse of food supplies, obviously aided by the infertility crisis, the global decline in human population will change the economy back to sun-based as many large scale productions of goods and services won't be worth it any longer. Already many countries have declining populations. Japan, where I live, declined by around 800,000 people last year, but roughly 200,000 foreigners moved in so net decline was around 600,000. It is happening in Korea and some other places too. It will start in America within a decade or so. The US govt forecasts by 2040 but could be earlier.

❤

Please Nate can you offer some advice i have a 17 daughter keen to do good work can you advise a good pathway shes never been in school and loves your work .xxxxx

18:43 Acorns and chickens are not "renewable energy" they are derivatives of sunlight which is also not renewable, but, seemingly, without limit; because of our short lifetimes. This is an important distinction to make.

@skeetorkiftwon

17 күн бұрын

Additionally, the natural processes are able to replicate with a positive system growth until at least one of their constraints are met. No one would plant wheat for only a single grain per stem.

@skeetorkiftwon

17 күн бұрын

1:11:27 If you add a tax, you will cost people out of living in the quality of life they have become accustomed to, and they will World War Z you. One of the reasons religions persist is despite all the wisdom of Hitchens, et al, everything was about taking away, simultaneously, the current belief system, and the freedom to choose, while replacing it with nothing but perceived cost. Your opposition, those in power, have already taxed the populace to death using stealth with inflation and importing illegal labor. You can't imagine Rex Tillerson and his peers are ignorant of declining EROEI. They're reducing consumption by demolishing the birth rate by promoting unsustainable dating strategies and sowing doubt and fear among men about women and among women about men, neutering children for "equality," saddling teens with student and credit card debt to reduce their purchasing power; among many other demand destruction marketing campaigns alla the Bernays Method. Albert Bartlett gave you the right side of the list in his arithmetic presentation. Have you seen that the average age of a Ukrainian fighter is over 45? How's that for a tax?

Informative. Extremes are not the answer however, balance should be the aim towards sustainability.

@thegreatsimplification

18 күн бұрын

I don’t think this is extreme. But I hear you

Taxes should be at the resource source and not at the point of individual consumption.

@thegreatsimplification

7 күн бұрын

That’s what I suggested