To find out more about the Single Plane Swing, I have created a "Single Plane Pocket coach" that you can take to the range, or course, and learn the fundamentals of the swing. Find out more about the Pocket Coach here: SwingPocketGuide.com.

@RedDragonfly205

3 жыл бұрын

If the wrists, elbows, knees, shoulders and feet do the work with no intended hingeing in the first 20 inches of the swing you cannot swing too long!

@Kaddywompous

3 жыл бұрын

@Marcel Silas And I would want to do that why?

Why all the haters on here putting you down for trying to help us hackers. Thanks for making the video & giving your time to help others. The haters are angry about how their lives turned out, which has nothing to do with golf.

@ToddGravesGolf

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. I feel sorry for the haters. Just keep swinging, thats all we can do!.

Thank you for this video! I applied it to my game today and I did so much better! Ball went further with less effort. Thank you thank you. So glad this video popped up on my home page on KZread. I’m 75 years young and just love playing golf.

I just watched Jon Rahm and Tony Finau and realized exactly what you mean. Thank you!

Great lesson I suffered from the yips with my driver and woods due to a long back swing, so I now have a shorter compact back swing and I hit the ball straighter and longer now playing the best golf in my life! It took 2 years of discipline and a total change but worth it.

That is the clearest explanation I've ever heard for a shorter backswing! Seeing the numbers helps me overcome the counterintuitive

About 18 years ago, I played a round of golf with a relative and his friend who hit the ball long & a single handicapper. His backswing was short like you demonstrated in this video and I wondered then, "How does he hit it so pure and long with such a short backswing?" It didn't dawn on me then, but now you explained how he was accomplishing such a great hit with his golf swing! Thanks, Todd! 👍

Best instructional video I have ever watched on explaining early release in the golf swing as this is my main problem, loss of power and hitting the ground before the ball as I have always been told to make a full turn not so easy at 64. Many thanks for taking the time to explain this, looking forward to more of your postings.

Todd... i cannot WAIT to try this. I have been casting my entire life, NO ONE has been able to explain/fix it the way you just did. I am 63 and 6' 3" & not flexible, so NOT having to do a big backswing puts a smile on my face! I used to teach skiing so I am mechanically oriented & I can explain a concept in many different ways so that the concept gets "digested" by the student. You do a great job at that! I completely understood your explanation immediately. Now if it would just get warm here in philly I cant wait to try this out. I will follow up later.

You are so right Todd! I am an old git which took me 50 years to get it right - all due to clicking onto your channel! We golfers all want to improve - that is why we are all scouring the net too find the perfect swing - Then HELLO - I watch Todd Graves channel and I have reached the best swing ever! Thanks Todd!

I must agree with you my Man. When reduced my backswing from 100 to 80 percent, I found way better ball contact.

The best thing i ever did for my game..with every club.I read an article years ago about how to practice driver hitting the center of the face by making a half swing.I ended up being longer and more accurate doing that than going all out.This works!☝👍Love all the old Moe vids!

Great video and explanation Todd, this is me, and has been since i started playing over 2 years ago. I know exactly what I am doing wrong, and have almost convinced myself, i just mentally can not work out why I cant do what i know i should be doing. cant wait to get to the range and put this into practice. thank you for taking the time to help us all with these great videos.

This is TRUE! As soon as I shortened my driver backswing when I started the round on Saturday 7/25, EVERYTHING IMPROVED resulting in the best driving day I have had with this Grave's 1 plane swing. Literally it was point and shoot and shoot far. I was stunned. As Todd says, this is "literally the most important" lesson and thank you for sharing this important information. Subscribed and if I had the money, I would be a member but alas. Thank you!

@horn6

4 жыл бұрын

Point and shoot! Love it

Thanks for the video. I recognise myself in some of those overswings/ early releases which you demonstrate at the start. I know instinctively that oversewing is so wrong but it's hard to resist when you have a big shot or obstacle like water to overcome. I know when I hit the ball sweet and it goes well it's because I swung shorter. Now I have your expert explanation which helps piece the jigsaw together. Cheers!

I don't know if this is ever brought up but if Todd feels he has to talk that much he needs to show what he is talking about in a slow motion video of him doing it while he is talking about it. Humans has a strong pictorial memory. Awesome teacher!!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Good Idea. Thanks.

Todd thank you. I understand completely. I recently started to shorten my back swing and I was wondering why I was making better contact, but you sir explained it perfectly. If you want to make me a better golfer by all means don’t charge me; I’ll be your project. Thanks

This helped me a lot. I'm a complete novice, only started going to the range 3 weeks ago, but shortening my back swing helped me stop my fade and got me from 200 to 240 yesterday. Appreciate the tip!

I wanted to thank you for this amazing video. Let the numbers do the talking 110 > 100. I braved the rain to try this out and I have never before experienced such pleasure from the resulting compression and accuracy. It feels like it put so many other thoughts out of my head. Thank you and keep up the amazing work, Little Moe.

Excellent Monsieur Graves!! I play golf since 1991 and now I am 58. This release has always been an issue for me I often have to fix and fix again. I realized the benefits of a shorter swing when once playing a 4 iron from a hill with the ball very down and low in my stance. I made a very short backswing and with good rythm the ball flyed like a rocket ! Unfortunately, all my French pros turned me to keep a long backswing . Yes, definitely the best advice and so well explained I had to watch on this video that confirms my belief. Never too late...thank’s. Next step: improving my English!

Glad I ran across this video. I’ve told my buddies several times that the best golf I’ve ever played was shortly after rotator/Lebrum surgery because I had to shorten my backswing. This helps confirm that theory. Only 2 months into my single plane journey and loving the results! Although my wife hates my obsession with these videos lately, keep them coming! 👊

@donisenberg3032

2 жыл бұрын

Watch John Rahm. Or even old Ben Hogan videos. Ben rarely got beyond parallel to the ground.

Thanks very much for this. I’ve watched so many videos about swing, grip etc and I’ve only ever hit the ground first and slice/top the ball. I knew about rotating but my arms always went at the same time or before. Thank you so much for this. Like a lightning bolt has just hit me. Love the channel sir 👍🏻🏌🏻‍♂️

YES! My Pro has been teaching this for 20 years. I made the comment once “the backswing is shorter but the downswing is longer than the traditional swing right?” This quantifies that 👍🏻 Nice.

This is something I realized many years ago. I have almost 100% solid contact on all my shots and better overall control. No more John Dalying it anymore.

Never really tried to shorten my backswing till I watched your video for the second time recently. I tried your swing and others in the last few years I'm 69 now and none of them worked till I committed myself to really shorten my backswing a couple weeks ago. So I tried a conventional swing and yours, couldn't believe how much better my iron striking was as I was chunking and topping them before. With you swing my shots were definitely going straighter and to my surprise further. I'm going to keep working on the single plane swing now with the shorter backswing as it now makes sense to me from your video how you get more club head speed with a shorter back swing due to increased rotation through impact. Glad I gave your swing a second try. Phil from Cleveland, Ohio

The more I watch you the more I respect your knowledge in golf. I will be 79 years of age as of February 2nd 20020 . My game has been declining fast in the last few years. I think Moe's system is the answer. I am so happy you have taken it upon yourself to carry on Moe's system. You are dedicated to not let Moe's system die. God bless you for that. Moe was a simple man with great knowledge. The way he dressed and looked showed made it difficult to be recognized the genius in the man. Todd continue in what you are doing. I would suggest showing the swing in tough situations such as sand traps, bad lies, etc. I wish you luck my friend. Phil Matton Palm Bay FL

Yesterday, I was having a horrible time on the range topping balls and fat hits. Out of frustration I shortened my swing and began striking the ball much better. Later that night this video popped in you tube as a recommended video. Explains it all! Thanks. One of the guys I golf with who is 65 years old has a very short swing but seldom has a “miss” and shot two rounds of 74 this week.

Man lotta whiners on here complaining about “get to the point! Talks too long’!”... Probably the same folks who can’t wait to smash the ball and release early as hell! Thanks for the video Todd, this is going to be helpful to me, I know it! Long time overswinger here, just now switching to the single plane.

Great video. I figured this out on my own and dropped 5 points of handicap.

Todd love your backswing lessons. This is for any swing imo. Thanks for sharing the data and explaining the degrees back and through. Very helpful

Terrific video! The single most important challenge in golf!

I discovered this years ago for my swing, and it's good to see this video confirm it. I still struggle with over rotating, especially later in a round when I am more warmed up/loosened up. When I start over rotating my right elbow pulls away from my body, my hands do some weird loopy thing at the top, and I cast the club. Can't find the sweet spot to save my life. But when I keep what feels like a half swing, I feel more in control, like I can actually go after the ball with more power, hit the sweet spot more consistently, and hit the ball further and more accurately. Thanks for the video!!!

Thanks Todd, this is so simple. Brian DC has proved it again and again. His frustration drove him to study Mou Norman’s swing and the golf robot which is a single plane machanics. But golfers in general are too afraid and sceptical to even think about the single plane. LOL

Thx Todd, you just explained something that was missing in my golf swing.

This is 100 percent spot on... I discovered this by accident last weekend. I felt like I might be over swinging and tried my best to swing easy and not take the club back as far, it feels like a half swing (watch what he says at 7:30)... then swing forward through the ball. I wasn't hitting it as far, but it was effortless and straight. Next goal is do that consistently and add the power back in.

Validation to what I have been working on this past month and had a break thru with hitting more solid shots consistantly. Feels like I'm taking club only 1/2 way back and then accelerate thru to finish. Reality is probably around a 70% turn back. Great video and explanation, Todd! Been a journey this past golf year learning this Single Plane swing. It has saved my back and I feel like I can play well for the rest of my life. Hope to meet you a a school some day!

Very interesting explanation of over swinging. I’ve played my way to a 4 hcp this year but the last week or two have been struggling with over swinging in the wind and topping the occasional shot which just sends me into a tragic tailspin. Can’t wait to get to the range tomorrow and try this!!

Can’t wait to try to this on the range. Thank you for explaining what “releasing early” means. I’m a novice and sometimes golf terminology confuses me. Keep the great content coming!

Omg the perfect video for me. I’ve had a short backswing for years but I’ve also released early due to lack of rotation. Adding body rotation thru the ball helped impact beyond belief! Short back and turn thru! Awesome!

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Excellent point because this is an adjunct to the hit instinct where the ball becomes the target and all the potential energy is lost before ball contact. They are typically stopping rotation in the backswing as well because they are becoming disconnected and moving their arms instead of turning or rotating the shoulders. This is the most common issue I see with the typical over the top move where it’s even worse because they aren’t rotating on the downswing either.

Todd, I kinda stumbled upon your stuff. I purchased Doug Sanders' book because after a terrible 3 months of MASS FEAR with the take club on arch, flat wrist, supinate left and right forearm and pivot at impact I could NOT hit a golf ball. I went today and based on You tube and golf forum material about Doug Sanders, I took the club back on ONE plane, short and hit what I thought would be straight to the right pushes and SHAZAM hit the MOST consistent golf shots I have had in months. Have you heard of Doug Sanders? I like your stuff. I am a fan.

Great video. I have been told you need a great turn in your backswing to create speed in the swing so that is what I tried to do even though I am not the most flexible person. Trying to turn too much caused in addition to an early release, a reverse pivot / swaying. I discovered from working on the range that as long as a turned enough to get my lead shoulder behind the ball and then rotate hard, I was coming through the ball faster and getting much better compression on the ball. I like your 75 / 35 = 110 description.

I was having lots of trouble and one day was so fed up, I just decided to shorten my backswing and hit consistently. So, this method works

Right on the money!! Not only better acceleration but, much better contact...Well done...

Watched the video and went out in the yard and hit my foam balls . Very good results, going to play golf tomorrow.hope it works as well in play

You‘re a genius! 👏👏 Thank you very much!!

Great video Todd! After 45 yrs of golf I am just now realizing the benefits of a shorter backswing. With less distance for the clubhead to travel, I'm getting better center face impact and I find I'm focused more on acceleration thru impact - having not gone back as far.

@ToddGravesGolf

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

I went out after watching your video. I hit the ball farther than I have a have Thank you

So this is the one I’ve been waiting for. I’m a slicer or a fader of the ball and I probably over rotate and release to soon. My swing thought has always been stay behind the ball. My only concern would be over rotating causing me to pull my shots. Love this stuff Mr. Mechanic, can’t wait to get to the range.

The longest hitters on tour have huge shoulder turns on the back swing (e.g., Dustin Johnson) but are also able to have great rotation on the follow through. But for those of us who don't have that athleticism, shortening the back swing is one way to avoid the early release and get good rotation on the follow through.

@pjpcadet

3 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you Mr Larson!

Some time back I figured out that I did better with a shorter backswing. Then I forgot about it. I was really struggling. I played yesterday and they put two other guys with us. One of them had a really short backswing. I realized at that moment that I had gone back to a long backswing. I shortened my backswing and played great.

You're right😊! This is now the most important video I've ever watched.. thanks!

Amen, I figured it out on my own, noticing better results. But people are always telling you not to shorten your swing. I thought I was doing something wrong by shortening. But you just let me know its ok so thank you!

Todd, I self discovered this on my last round, I was spraying the ball all over. I said I’m going to reduce back swing and back off on power and felt totally in control on my last hole (I know, waited too long!) This vid validated what thinking. I’ll subscribe, be a pupil, thank you.

@JayColucci1

4 жыл бұрын

100% the same for me. I couldn't control my driver to save my life. I shorted my backswing, turned the power down and I hit 5 fairways in a row dead down the middle. I was smiling so much other golfers driving by probably thought i was crazy.

This is a really good piece of advice I've recently doing this as my swing was all over the place now it's short and compact I've got lots control over my shots..

I've always hit a lot better and further When my backswing is shorter. But I struggle with how to shorten it. Great video!! You reinforce my thought about the problem, But not easy to do,

@ToddGravesGolf

4 жыл бұрын

Get in a habit of using Video when you make changes. Nobody can feel what they "actually" do.

WOW, Great video, I took it to the driving range and YOU"RE RIGHT. Thanks for explaining the why also, I was taught to make a longer or fuller swing to give everything time to catch up. (I may not be saying that right) but a shortened rotation with a faster rotation thru the hitting area fixed my swing almost immediately. Now I just need the repetitions to trust it. Thanks for posting this video. Rick

Yep! I’ve already learned this but combined with a little wrist rotation (especially when I’m giving it a little more power) has made my ball striking much better.

Hi Todd, gosh it was over 5 months since I posted a comment too you and here I am reading in what I said then! I am swinging/playing alright. The thing is - I watched the blog of those golf shoe's that you were promoting, so I messaged the firm for a pair - they never replied to me? I was touched hearing you say - Moe would have liked these shoe's! I bet Moe is on your mind every day - which can only be a good thing in remembering one so great! I still watch your old and new video's! You are with me on the course and am sure many golfers think the same! Thanks Todd oh and a happy new year to you and your family!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alan. Looking forward to a great year in 2021 - and playing a lot of golf.

Excellent video . I think this is where I have gotten myself into trouble . Over rotation and not being able to get back to the ball without an early release . Out to the driving range we shall go ..

All true! Shorter Backswing solves or resolves the problems from early release or under rotation. Good vid....

@georgemuldoon6802

4 жыл бұрын

So true!!

I normally shoot mid to low 80s on my home course. Applied the shorter backswing to my game today and shot a 77 on a different course that I’ve never played. Unbelievable difference to my consistency of hitting crisp, accurate shots with all clubs.

Hank Haney quote: "I never had to lengthen anyone's swing..."

Todd This video all makes sense. I was always taught bigger backswing had more power. Wrong

Thanks Todd, this is like John Rahm. Less to go wrong in the backswing, as it's shorter, but a full uninhibited release and turn through.

I have a single plane golf swing. About a year ago, I noticed in your videos that the club head at the top of your backswing never went past the ball. Interestingly, I noticed the same in Moe Norman’s backswing. The next time I went to the range I hit practice balls with that thought and was amazed at how much speed I created on my downswing and how much it improved my contact. In short, if I rotated on the downswing with the shorter swing, my release (and contact) was much better/consistent.

As an older player I have found that I can get better rotation (not too much), a better back hip setting, way more consistent impact, no more early releases, more distance and improved accuracy by paying attention to driving my front shoulder and front knee down and back more. Then I find my front knee is in a much stronger flexed position. That eliminates my front hip from breaking/swaying through the 'front wall' of my swing. In short, I no longer have an inadequate degree of front knee flex in my weight shift causing inconsistent impact results....My ball flight is, on the whole, now noticeably straighter and longer. The ball's apex is now also more consistent....

Tried your drill from another video about this topic and it worked really well. After studying one of my own videos i saw how my upper body stopped rotating.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

"Could be the best video you ever saw" :-) In that case I'll watch it a few more times....happy to be here in Todds' school. I have received so much here. :-)

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Great.

This was has help me so much I had to drop a club on all my par 3's thank you Charlie Frisa

Seriously, I have suspected this for years but have never committed to change. Now I will commit.

@lphtahoe

4 жыл бұрын

So, I stuck with it for an entire round. Only one drive did I get to or maybe even past parallel, and predictably sliced it. 🙄 Out of the remaining 13 drives 9 of them were straight with very little spin. All of those 9 were good drives. Very happy. Now gotta be able to groove that swing.

Big Mahalo to youTodd! Im good in writing but all I can say is you changed golf life. I've been using conventional for 7 years and everytime game is frustration I don't even wanna go to Roger Dunn to buy golf stuff coz it's the same thing.I just played in Westlock today and I really had a good rounds my friends told me WOW! Todd I'm so happy you heal my golf anxiety thank you very much!!! 🏌️‍♂️🏌️‍♂️😍👍👍👍

@ToddGravesGolf

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Keep having fun.

Makes sense. I hit the range everyday and it baffles me how some days are better than others and some days I just dont get where its all going wrong, which reminds me, my 8 iron in in the bushes somewhere I need to go find it.

@jamesbelkin9204

4 жыл бұрын

😆

Thank you,ty,ty!!! What a great explanation, Todd.

@ToddGravesGolf

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

I’m a you tube golf junkie and have looked into a lot of swing thoughts and and have taken lesson. Out of all the information I never thought of my issues of topping or coming over the top was a over backswing issue. This may have been my golf aha moment.

This was of immense help. Thank you.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

Thanks for the video. I changed to a 3/4 swing this year prior to watching this video and it fixed 90% of my swing issues. I also ended up getting more distance rather than shorter distance as I thought would happen with a shorter back swing.

@janedorey3733

4 жыл бұрын

Why does he keep saying guys? Women play golf too and we actually watch videos to help improve our game!

@janedorey3733

4 жыл бұрын

FYI: women play golf also and we actually watch videos to help us improve our games!

@Tidoublemy

4 жыл бұрын

@@janedorey3733 Wow. How sensitive are you? Typical woman..

@evolver8415

4 жыл бұрын

@@janedorey3733 If this is the biggest of your problems you live a pretty easy life.

I know with my launch monitor that my shorter swing absolutely gives me more yards and crisper contact particularly with my irons and hybrids. I've always wondered why, I find it quite interesting.

I’ve often gone back to this as well, but I can’t seem to do it consistently. I know I’m releasing in the wrong part of my swing (it has been a chronic flaw in my swing). When I see my videos, I can see my shaft kick (bend forward) in the first 1/4-1/2 of my downswing. I have always said that I play/played my best golf when I could feel the shaft bend. Thanks for the video as it a good reminder with some data behind why.

@robertsmeenk8274

4 жыл бұрын

Take the club back inside to be consistent

I’ve always had a short backswing and always thought I was doing something wrong. This made me feel a lot better! Thank you

very true...i limited my back swing about a week ago to a tony finau style, and focus on flipping the lead hand and release toward target...i got 5 yd shorter but much more accurate...it cures my slicing

Great video, I've been blocking my drives around 10 degrees right, improving my rotation has got me hitting it straight again :)

@ToddGravesGolf

4 жыл бұрын

Nice.

thanks! I will try it

Looking forward to going home and trying this!!!!👍🏻⛳️

Thanks!! I can't wait to get to the range tomorrow and practice this!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Great. Let me know how it goes.

Great tip this has changed my game. So thank you!

Great tip and easily understood...I need to learn this 👍

Hi, thanks a lot for this video, I've watched myself and saw clearly overswinging.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

You got it. Thanks for commenting.

Thank you for this great video. New subscriber

awesome video- when the best players are put on Gears 3D, this basically confirms what Todd prescribes!

Excellent tip.

My first golf lesson yesterday revealed I was over swinging in my back swing, along with stance width.

Todd, I shortened my backswing and was hitting it as consistent as I ever have. Thanks for the great lesson and video. My question is, can you ever have too short of a backswing? How do you know you have the most optimal backswing rotation? Thanks

My brother is a struggling golfer who has been golfing for 25 years and shoots around 100. He has never been able to really improve much. He hits a very weak ball, a slice, and a ton of casting over the top. I have been looking for a better swing for him. What's funny is he use to work at a golf course and actually met Moe 5-6 times! I showed him Todd's KZread videos and he was hooked! In order to help with the transition, I told him I would commit to changing as well. I was down to a 9 hdcp with the convention 2-plane swing. I could put together some decent rounds, I was longer than average but never really straight and accurate; a few balls OB every round would ruin me. My brother is still struggling but he's hit some of the best shots in recent memory with the SPS. When I converted, I went from shooting low to mid 80s up to the low 90s! Well, guess what.... in 2-3 weeks I started to figure it out and now I'm back to low 80s and actually shot my all-time low of +2, 74, in late October! I played 6 straight rounds in October with the same TM TP5 ball and actually had to replace it because it was all scuffed up instead of lost! (First time ever!) Folks, this swing works! Two weeks ago I had a stretch where I made 5 birdies in 10 holes. My previous best was 3 birdies in a round of 18. I shot in the 70s three more times in early November. I really wish Graves was closer to me and more people around me were using the SPS. For now I'm thankful for all the great video Todd has made public and the free pocket guide. One day I hope to visit Todd at the Graves academy. Next step is getting a set made and fitted to the new swing which I'm doing in the next few weeks. Thanks Todd for the virtual help. The Golf Gods are smiling down on you, especially Moe!

Cool. I might go at this several ways.. 1. Take a 3/4 backswing. 2. Transition from the top of the backswing into the downswing as the clubhead "drops" and make sure I keep rotating to open up my body, i.e. knees, hips & chest to my target into a balanced finish and 3. The longer the club, the "slower" the club will seem coming back thru impact, but I know it's gathering more clubhead speed at just takes more time to come back around.. even if it's actually just milliseconds..

This has helped a lot with my game.

I’ve been finding out that biometric move recently while hitting balls into the swamp outback of my house I was embellishing a little bit with more of a 65° backswing noticed how straight and perfect each ball seemed like it flew off the club face

@ToddGravesGolf

4 жыл бұрын

Great!

Thanks Todd very helpful!

Can’t wait to try this out 👍

Very well explained.👍 Thank you.