I like the way that Aagaard (and then Axel Smith) describe it: you must try to falsify your line. In order to verify it's correct, you give your absolute utmost to find your opponent's moves that would prove the line "false." Calculate, then falsify.

Falsification is extremely applicable / useful across domains As a secondary level math & sciences teacher, and scholastic chess advisor, I introduced it to all my students. It's so counterintuitive that most students resisted the concept in favor of confirmation. This is a powerful and necessary video lesson. Thank you from a chico viejo in the U.S.

@magnuswootton6181

Жыл бұрын

thats when your coming up with a big theory!!!!

It's like you read my mind every time and pinpointed exactly where i stopped calculating. Great lesson andras

It's hard to overcome your own bias about how good a move or an idea is, because if it doesn't work you just wasted time calculating, but on the other hand the more you look into the lines, the less you'll have to think later because you've already played it out in your head

@treasonouspigeonpeckers957

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of times I realize it was a bad move once I played it

@pushingyourownagenda9889

2 жыл бұрын

my goal is to calculate 10 moves ahead

@johnd.hathcoat9223

2 жыл бұрын

It is not a waste of time to calculate when you "learn" that something doesn't work. ;P

Brilliant. The idea of falsification (attempting to show how/why a hypothesis doesn't work) is such a scientific idea, and so hard to apply in chess, and yet! So useful 😃 thank you for more insights Andras!

I never understood how my opponents used to use so much time compared to me but last weekend I played my first tournament in a long time. I tried to refute every one of my lines in the middlegame and easily understood...it's very frustrating to go through lines that almost work but just fall to one best move the opponent has. But it's also very satisfying if you find a different correct continuation and your opponent then plays all the moves you see.

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It feels like you are in a safe zone when nothing catches you by surprise.

Your best lesson thus far, really spoke to me. We have to invalidate every route possible, and we have to think of best play for the opponent. It is a laziness and arrogance like if a person grows up with the ability to brow beat their peers with superficial arguments with the expectation that this tactic will always works and they will never meet more sophisticated people.

Best chess channel for me (Elo about 1950) Andras!! Super clear. Always interesting subjects. Thnx

Incredible video. It had an immediate impact on my thought process and I went straight from this to one of my best ever solving sessions. Proper calculation and consideration of opponent's threats has always been my biggest weakness - no matter how often I reminded myself it was always a huge struggle and I could never make it stick. I really feel like something clicked for the first time after this video. Perhaps it was the falsification idea/comparison to Science and Maths. I'm sure it will take lots of work before it becomes second nature but this has been a real moment of chess clarity for me. All Andras' videos have been useful and entertaining, many have been fantastically insightful... ut this one takes it to a new level.

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, glad you enjoyed it!

this is exactly what i needed to see.. just excellent and exactly right.... thanks Andras.

Great video as always! As a novice chess player Yusupov's exercise books are among my favorites for many of the themes you discussed in the video. Most exercises are 3-6 moves, often quite forcing lines, which are challenging but also doable for beginners. He also awards points based on how deep or how many important variations you saw. Really got me into the habit of trying to calculate!

Really helping my chess. Thanks Andras!

Brilliant, Andras! Thank you for the awesome video!

Super good point Andras! Thanks for the lesson🙋🏻‍♂️

YES!! You nailed the issue. This is constantly a problem with us club players being excessively trained at solving offensive tactics--we totally forget that the opponent is also playing a game. I noticed this problem the first time I tried to solve defensive tactics. I literally thought, "How am I supposed to know what the opponent is doing??" I was contemptuous. 🤣 Then I realized ... But still. The mystery--what is the requisite training/untraining--remains. I.e., what do we do (every day) to train us to learn a better move-selection-method with emphasis on the opponent's game? Perhaps more defensive tactics. Maybe Kramnik's Chessable course. idk.

You are so good at teaching, dude!

Thank you coach!

This is gold! Thanks for the great content!

Well explained- thanks!

Great video andras!

This is why i love your chess & channel.Your a genius andras,its a pleasure to listen to you.

This is truly an amazing video. I have always struggled with calculation and pushing myself to calculate and making sure my moves were working. Especially in puzzles I would always rush and end up getting many incorrect. Keep up the amazing content

Excellent lesson

This really changed my approach towards calculation and why concrete play is crucial for a better chess.

Awesome!!! Especially the last puzzle Thanks

Thank for this important lesson! Please many more on this topic.

great stuff man !

The only channel where I always feel like I learn something 👍👍 keep making these intermediate/advanced videos!

@rickstermandude

2 жыл бұрын

My understanding is that this isn’t intended specifically for intermediate and above, but that it is equally aimed at beginners like me. IM Toth doesn’t say we need to calculate all lines completely accurately and be able to keep all the previously calculated lines in our head and then unerringly play the best move; he just says that we should be aware that the opponent may not be cooperative and that we have to adjust our mindset to one that attempts to refute the move we want to play by finding the opponent’s best response and follow the lines that we would prefer not to occur. As a beginner, I’m going to mess up more times than not, but I think that learning to calculate well is a separate topic; anyone who’s sufficiently motivated can attempt this mindset shift, whatever their level.

@claudiomaker2932

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickstermandude I wasn’t talking about this specific video, I’m saying in general I always learn from this channel where as I can’t tell the same about other more popular ones

Sadly it is hard to force yourself to calculate so deeply because a)in most online time formats there is just no time, b) in online tactics puzzles there is always only one solution so you can often just guess that it's the most promising line and c) in real games studylike tactics seldom appear and noone tells you when to stop calculating. But I'll keep trying :)

@alboresivn7012

Жыл бұрын

tienes que buscar libros especializados, ramesh sacó un libro de cálculo, agard ..yusupov..dvorestsky...todos tienes problemas donde no calcularás una sola línea....seguramente lo que estás usando son libros donde vienen patrones, eso es diferente. Encontrar patrones es una parte del proceso de análisis para tu jugada, si no encuentras patrones entonces tendrás que empezar a calcular variantes... puedes buscar un video de chessbase india y ana muzychuck calculando y verás la diferencia. saludos

Thank you, great vid!

Great video! Helped me a lot, thanks

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

wonderful vid!

AS always amazing content!

This video needs to reach a million views! Very instructive!

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

I wish....

Awesome content!

When in doubt push the knight to the post.

Thx Andras. I follow you on chessable and really like what you teach and how understandable it is .. as a beginner here

13:58 timeless advice. 2 years later and still such great knowledge. BTW, I think playing full games against yourself legitimately trying to win both sides is a good way to break through this mental barrier of trying to find good moves for your opponent. Taking breaks between moves to reset your thought process. It forces you to train your brain to find good moves for your opponent because you're already used to being your own opponent.

you just opened my mind.. such an amazing teaching skills u have sir

@ChessCoachAndras

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Glad you liked the video!

This actually goes to areas more general than chess. For example, it is not uncommon for students in school to be mischaracterized as "lazy" for not making sufficient effort in their work, especially in subjects like maths. They rather lack confidence in their abilities, and so attempt to save themselves the grief of "wasted" effort (resulting in a wrong answer) by not investing too much sweat at the beginning; i.e. by simply giving up too quickly. I have found in some cases that one way forward is to "baby step it" with simpler problems to build confidence, and gradually work up to the real stuff with full effort. One might argue that this should not be necessary for a motivated student, and indeed it may not be; but in some cases, it frankly works. And it's hard to argue with what works. (Obviously, similar considerations may apply to other endeavors, and the ability to self-tutor by making up suitable "stepping stone" examples may be helpful.)

@Australianchessplayer

Жыл бұрын

I was characterised as lazy at school, because I didn't do my homework and because I didn't show as much working as teachers expected. But also they didn't understand my autism, and probably not my high IQ.

Very good , this very useful, thank you

Incredible video, sharing with my adult chess improvers!

@ChessCoachAndras

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Hope they will like it too!

The mathematics analogy is a good one. This is what you need to do when you prove a mathematical theorem.

Jep proof me wrong concept is difficult on a mental level

Andras is not a chess coach, he's a chess doctor. Best coach I have seen.

@ChessCoachAndras

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

I think about this in terms of chess vision, making sure a see all potential responses from my opponent, not just the ones I might consider

Another important line to look at in the first example is the a pawn. Really easy to discount, but after 1...f3 gf g3 a5 g2 a6 g1=Q a7, white is one square away from promoting and a8 is protected by the knight but seeing that Qa1+ wins the pawn because of the check. If that check isnt there you could run into drawing or losing positions really easily and it needs to be verified.

The thumbnails just keep getting better

I have found that the best type of problems for this conscientious approach are non-practical puzzles, I mean problems with scenarios that would never arise on the board, that often have a very aesthetic and artificial appeal.

Excellent

It is strange that when I get to this stage, I move too fast and don't think it through.

Thx for the excellent Video! Great message! I think you should also speak about WHEN to calculate. In the first example, black is basically lost if f3, gxf g3 doesn't work. So I only have to think about my king movement when I get f4 check.

I now try to play multiple different time controls. I play the shorter time controls to improve the speed of my board vision, candidate moves for both sides and calculate forcing lines. And to learn when to just move to avoid time loss. I play longer time controls to learn the discipline of knowing when to calculate multiple lines deeply and how to use calculation to make better strategic or non-forcing moves.

Plz make video on chandra series

This is deep and really helpful

@ChessCoachAndras

6 ай бұрын

Cheers mate , glad you liked it!

Great video. I am guilty of doing this - being lazy. Thank you for posting this!

Great video! I think most players who avoid this do so because falsifying is time consuming (most of them are blitz maniacs) and psychologically daunting. It's easy to get overwhelmed with what your opponent might try, and sometimes we become afraid of ghosts. So there's not only the practice of falsifying, but also making sure you don't have an additional resource to a line you think your opponent has. How many players know this weakness of theirs but are happy enough to play moves that look and feel clever? Even if their idea turns out to be wrong, they just have a chuckle and sometimes don't even bother to improve upon their thought processes. I've certainly been there, but I've switched to playing a lot more longer games. This allows me a fair chance to say I tried calculating several lines. More importantly, I'm more composed and so I remember clearly what went through my head during a certain critical moment. This helps tremendously when analyzing the game afterwards. This is the gold for improvement: It's really about learning how we think, our blind spots and biases, and slowly expanding our mind to think creatively when we'd rather play the autopilot move.

Liked and subscribed....but we need at least one more vid on this subject.

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to add!:)

@rickstermandude

2 жыл бұрын

I second this request!

11:00 got me 😂 . Btw this was really helpful thank you so much ❤

As far as what you said about "the opponent's time ticking is concerned, my problem is the opposite. I think hard in that time, only to realise what I missed in the previous move. Sometimes i play a move and the best move comes to me only when I'm pressing the clock. What do I do? Demand strict orders from you, so that it punches in the face and I never forget it afterwards.

Perfect

Fascinating way to calculate

@ChessCoachAndras

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael, for the most part, it is the only way to do it!:)

Greetings...Chico, me like your knowledge. You Chico...good man! Serious just for a time...we are lucky to have you in Australia. There's something good and unique about you Chico/Coach/Andras. Thank you Chess Coach of the Chico/Chicka's. Check you Chico...somehow I don't think I would Check(mate) you in Chess? A brilliant channel, a shining light!!!

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks NOrman!

In the first position, would it be worth looking at the line where white tries to race pawns and attempt to use the knight to cover his own promotion square? Black still wins but requires using checks to the white king as a means to fork the pawn on a7. Feel that should be another line to exhaustively visualize before concluding that we are done

10:20 "Tactics solver mindset" is what I would call it. Done! Next. Is what is on the mind.

Adras, this is great. I lost a tournament game recently because i found a beautiful sacrifice that shoud have been 2 pieces for a piece and three pawns. I missed my opponents best response which he found. I played on but inevitability i lost. If I had tried harder to to falsify i would have seen the quiet pawn push that disconnected my pieces. Instead I only calculated takes takes and he took the full point

7:25 wow. This got me thinking. Often, I make improving moves ("how wrong can it be") without calculating lines when the opponent has many options. I should really start a new habit: always calculate in chess!

Thank you for the wonderful content. I need to watch this at least once a week as a reminder. The default is certainly just to be lazy and get the high and confirmation bias every time you just happened to be correct and your opponent didn't have a refutation. It's hard work and discipline to do this. And if I had a nickel for every time I had a cold shower response that I didn't take the time to calculate...

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you find this useful!

Under promotion to a bishop, wow that is a super rare move as the only correct move.

Hey, conpletely unrelated questiob, but what's the proper Hungarian pronunciation of Richard Rapport?

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

Will try to remember and say it in the next vid😉

I struggled with both examples. In the second example, I knew black must have a trick becasuse of the theme of the video e.g. I looked as far as 1. Bh7+ Kh8 2. exf8=Q and then STILL went "yep, 2...Kh7, queen will fall, up a ton of material, I win". I STILL cut my line too short. I didn't even see the position after 3. Rxe7 and notice the pin on the f7-bishop and the king is out of moves! Without visualising the position, I could never find the stalemate trap. Dan Heisman called this a "quiescence error" and I'm guity of it in nearly every game I play. I think it's also a symptom of playing too much with short time controls so not giving myself the time needed to calculate all of my opponent's best possibilites.

I'm a Fanboy of Andras! He is incredibly instructive and high energy! Fun, enjoyable and competent coach! In the second position I wish he would have calculated Rg1+, still not winning, but another line to consider...love his short videos as well!!!

@ChessCoachAndras

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, appreciate the love!!

It's also very useful for learning defense

Good video.

Amazing

HOWWWWWW is there only 21k subscribers? This is really killer content!

Be sure to also get into the habit of calculating using coordinates so it's easier to have a "bookmark" and not lose your place, even for simple lines. Do this in puzzles, studies as well as games as often as possible and it'll get easier.

This lesson speaks for itself…

The only way I can do this for every move is if I have 2 hours on the clock. :) Maybe the next video can teach us about calculating and visualizing faster.

You're the best.. ❤️✨

@ChessCoachAndras

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, appreciate your kind comment!

@Cosmiccoffeestains

Жыл бұрын

@@ChessCoachAndras ❤️❤️❤️

It's like you look deep into my soul and point out my flaws,lol. I am not sure I have done enough practice to get to that level yet though.

@ChessCoachAndras

Ай бұрын

Glad you like the content sire! i am sure you will get there!

How to I get in contact for private lessons?? Great video bro love Perth, Australia

Dvoretsky "nunca olvides que tienes un rival enfrente",

I highly recommend Jacob Aagaard’s “Excelling at Chess” book series [Everyman Chess] (they are actually 5), as well as Aagaard’s “Calculation” book, from the Grandmaster Preparation series [Quality Chess]. The other super useful calculation books are by Romain Edouard, “Calculation Training” three books.

@nicoterradas

2 жыл бұрын

I would recommend for those under 2000 ELO all the books by Valeri Beim which deal profusely with calculation techniques.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a book or website that deals with studies that are not extremely difficult? Like for a 1500-1600 level player?

I had the defensive idea for 1st position but 2nd studie is really beatifull. and so hard to find ... ^^" Thank you for this video and continue like this. bye.

@ChessCoachAndras

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

how do you make arrows in different colors?

In the 2nd example, what about: Rook g1, King h8, exf8 -> Q+, Bishop g8, Qxg8 mate?

Thanks, man. I just started the video but calculation, accurate calculation, is one of my biggest problems. I'm 2100s in blitz, I only play rapid a couple of games per week and in the 2000s. I feel like this is something holding me back from staying in the 2200s instead of just peaking and going back down. I already know it's gonna be a good video, know that it's appreciated.

Most people stop calculating after f3 gxf g3 because all the other moves have been disproven. Because that must be the start of the puzzle, you make those moves to start, then keep calculating after f4+. That's actually a better practice for a real game because you want to use your opponents clock time.

So this all makes a lot of sense. I do this often in a game but I find my self running out of time playing 10 min rapid games ... Which appear to be the slowest time people play these days with decent queue times. How would you recommend identifying the best times to calculate at this depth vs playing "common sense" moves?

Oops. I also was looking at Kf5 but missed Nb5. I was thinking e4+ Kxe4 Ne6 though which i think also stops the pawn. But then i realized you must keep the 2 pawns there so the knight is blocked

and then the rabbit hole goes deeper, when you refute your line you need to go on and refute the refutation! the other day OTB I spent 12 minutes calculating a sacrifice, looking at all the defenses of the opponent, and reaching the conclusion it didn't work. and I was right that the main line I looked at didn't work, but in one of the sidelines I needed to look deeper and see I can get a second pawn for my sacrifice and ruin his structure, which wouldn't be winning but would be an advantage. so much calculation to do, and I already get into time trouble every time as it is, sheesh...

For the last puzzle, what about Rg1?

Love your videos and teaching style........but........... for me, a relative beginner , too deep on the calculation. If I took your advice it would take an hour for each move. Is there a way to build up to calculations that don't start with 6 moves for each of 5 possibilities ? I feel a coach would be beneficial but most coaching I see is too advanced for me. Any thoughts ?

The issue I have with the first problem is that f3 just seems so forced. Even if you didn’t see how to respond to f4+, or that white had that move in the first place, f3 is the only move to play to have a chance. If it were a game, I’m not sure I would even calculate past f3 xf3 g3, because if that doesn’t work, nothing will. Meanwhile, if you were presented with the position after f4+, you would be more likely to find the necessary continuation. And this is the problem I have in my calculations. It’s not that I don’t want to put the work in to disprove my hypothesis, it’s that we are usually presented with multiple potential resources, especially when we find ourselves in better or winning positions.

any books you can reccomend on studies. not the super hard ones, but like these ones

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

At what point during this process should we start to calculate Rg1 ?

@amfulger

Жыл бұрын

In the second puzzle? Looks winning, but after 1. Rg1, Bg6 the f7 square becomes available to the black king. What is your play then?

In the position c6 is the only hope for White. If White can’t play c6 he might as Well give up. So you don’t need all the calculations to play the move. Two moves later you can start calculating.