It really isn't that hard to find used old production P226s for under 1000 bucks, I understand theres the appeal of them being new production and limited edition, but 1200 bucks is still pretty fucking steep for such a basic handgun

@chucksterK76

Ай бұрын

100% true, I just got a 1993 West German for 700 the other weekend.

@Chef_Of_Sandwich

Ай бұрын

@@jeri_v2578 why is it so easy to turn every conversation about a new Sig(re-release or not)if into one about a used gun for marginally less?

@jeri_v2578

Ай бұрын

@@Chef_Of_Sandwich Because generally speaking, minus a couple things, their older guns are better built and cost less due to being used

@JB22636

Ай бұрын

​​​​​@@Chef_Of_Sandwich Because they revamp their models so much. How many different models of the 320 are there? I've lost count. Same deal with the 226. Buying an older model probably makes sense unless someone just has to have the new color combo sig puts out. .

@Chef_Of_Sandwich

Ай бұрын

@@jeri_v2578 OK I totally get where you’re coming from but I’ve heard bad things about some runs of them too like cracked slides, crazy rust problems, and other random stuff too. if I’m looking in the used market for such a gun what time period(era) Should I go for to get this unmatched quality in the modern-day times you speak of? Not being sarcastic just wanna know.

retro with a modern price i bet

@theob.8458

Ай бұрын

💯

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

$1200 for a modern SIG without a rail? I'll pass. They tried even less with this reproduction than they did with the P210

@Bristecom

Ай бұрын

I was like, "Oh that's cool. They're just offering a really basic P226 that'll probably cost around $600 bucks like the base Beretta M9/92." Then he said it'll cost $1200!? 🤯

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

@@Bristecom Greedy and lazy. I remember when SIG was a decent company, but I swore off of them almost a decade ago. I'll stick with my Berettas!

@Bristecom

Ай бұрын

@@burmiester1 I like their P365-380 but other than that, I think they often miss the mark (pun intended) with quality or price. They mass produce for governments so they shouldn't have to charge so much and they price-lock/price-fix the retailers too. I greatly appreciate Beretta continuing to offer their lineup of old and new at good prices, including the imported models!

1200 bucks no thanks.

@mmiski

Ай бұрын

Not surprising since FN did the same thing with their re-imagined High Power. It's just frustrating that they could've spent less on the fancy packaging, manual, and grips to bring the price point down. As it stands now there's literally no reason to pick this over the Mk25 unless you absolutely can't stand having an accessory rail or you've got a ton of old P226 holsters that need to be filled.

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

@@mmiski At least FN's new Hi-Power is a different design. This is a stock P226 without a rail. They couldn't even be bothered to recreate the old style parts like the takedown lever, mag release or two-dot sights. SIG basically expected to slap "retro" on a base model and charge what effectively amounts to full price. I'm not a Glock guy but Glock busted their ASSES to get the Gen 1 Classic G17 as close as they could do so while still being practical. They even recreated the flat extractor!

@libertylivesin1776

Ай бұрын

@mmiski The new FN version is a complete dumpster fire. Should have had a rail if going THAT direction. Total failure. On the other hand, the SA-35 from Springfield did it right. True homage to the classic with just the right quality of life improvements, including magazine interoperability. Fuck FNs abomination.

@de3481

Ай бұрын

@@burmiester1 Glock's Austrian Military Pistole 80 reproduction was also spot-on with everything besides the Austrian military proof marks & the Tupperware box. The Austrian military would not allow Glock to reproduce the proofs & the box has the gen3 finger grooves molded in.

@rickmartin9420

Ай бұрын

Sig produced some runs of "legacy" models of the P229 and P226 a few years back and they were actually cheaper than the standard version. As far as I can tell, that is all this is.

$1200? Meanwhile beretta is still making the same m9 for about 1/2 that.

@YeetCannon254

Ай бұрын

And they're horribly put together by diversity hires in TN, to the point Beretta Italy shut down the Gallatin factory to send people from Italy to train the workers.....and the Gallatin factory still puts out utter shit. You get what you pay for.

@sleigh4019

Ай бұрын

I agree but a M9 for 599$ is 200$ over priced also ..sense girsan pumps them out with g10 grips and pic rails for 399-459$ new

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

@@sleigh4019 Yeah but Turks basically use slave labor lol An Italian made pistol will undoubtedly cost more because of EU restrictions, taxes, labor wages, etc.

@rklkify

Ай бұрын

​@@burmiester1and people wonder why everything is made overseas nowadays. Americans are happy to sacrifice American manufacturing just to have cheaper stuff

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

@@rklkify It's too bad

I like how they removed the P226 nitron (the actual base model P226) like right before releasing this thing, so u can’t easily compare how this thing is like 300-400 dollars more than the nitron model was. Like I get that y’all want the retro look, but a 300-400 dollar upcharge simply cuz they removed the rail on the bottom and gave it an old case is ridiculous.

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

Greed. Simple as. The guy acts like they had to re-engineer the frame too, and that's bull. SIG was offering P226 models without rails (the Tribal) as recently as TEN YEARS AGO. They are still producing the M11 too, and that doesn't have a rail.

@nikik5567

Ай бұрын

@@burmiester1 true, I forgot about how recently they had been selling non railed P226s. So they legit didn’t have to go “dig up” anything.

@hehitmewiththatalphabetsou3337

Ай бұрын

Hell they didnt even bring back the stamped steel slide either

@tonyromano6220

Ай бұрын

Federal contracts have messed with their brains.

These are great I’m sure but who the hell is paying $1200 for a basic 226 with no modern features that’s just as reliable as a beretta 92 that costs half the price

@robertharrington8065

Ай бұрын

I just bought a trade in for 450😂

@phantom4060

Ай бұрын

@@robertharrington8065 nice. The beretta 92 style is one of the nicest pistols ever. I carry a 92x every day. U’ll really like it

@yupyup4209

Ай бұрын

This. Beretta 92 was the direct competitor and never went away. They still make them and you can get them for around $500. These aren't even faithful recreations and I bet they are gonna be 1000 bucks

@c3bhm

Ай бұрын

And that top-heavy wobble is just horrible. I have an original W.Germany 226, and it's a lovely keepsake, but that wobble is stupid once you feel the recoil of any modern gun with the standard low bore axis. You can see the bouncy wobble in the slo-mo footage in this video. So goofy.

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

@@yupyup4209 More than that! $1200! For a BASE MODEL P226!

This should be $600 maximum, Sig...

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

Well since they insisted on using the far more expensive MILLED SLIDE for this "retro" model that ain't happening. Greed!

@rtz549

Ай бұрын

Absolutely

@DavidLLambertmobile

Ай бұрын

Will this be converted to a DAK format? Maybe Gray Guns, Bruce Gray can do it. The top pistol gunsmiths are slowly ending work, 2020s.

@tonyromano6220

Ай бұрын

Yep.

@Sandhill1988

25 күн бұрын

I've got a CZ999 that is almost an exact copy of the 226. That is without the Is pornographic place point.

If Sig really wants to bring back retro rifles, why not some true 550 rifles?

@peaceable263

Ай бұрын

That's a rifle I'd actually buy from them.

@lukaszimmermann2215

Ай бұрын

We have the 550 line in Europe. They are beautyfull made and extremly reliable. I have the 553 that works with 7.62x39 AK mags. They are verry expensiv and i dont think most volks are willing to pay 3500-5500€ for a rifle.

@LosTCoz3000

28 күн бұрын

That's Sig Sauer AG. It's a separate company from Sig Sauer inc., but owned by the same holding company in Germany. Not confusing at all. Lol

I worked at a shooting range from 2002-06 where we had a variety of rental guns. The P226 was the only gun that was more durable than Glocks. Our customers shot that thing so much that it did start having trouble and we sent it back. They pulled the breechblock out of the sheet-metal slide and replaced it and the gun worked fine again. We wore it out again and then I think SIG refused to fix it a second time, but that was still an epic amount of shooting through that thing.

@DavidLLambertmobile

Ай бұрын

🇬🇧 SAS 22nd veteran "Andy McNab" wrote & said often how the SAS in the 1990s 2000s chose SIGs over Beretta, S&W, Glock, HK. The unit liked how the P226s P228s 9mm ran, worked. Some used P230s in plain clothes ops.

I still have my P226 that I bought over 30 years ago. It’s a keeper!!!

I am a major p226 (WG) fan! Carried and used one on duty for years and years. Still have it and will always have it! Still carry it and will as long as I am able. I am quite disappointed that Sig can't build and sell a basic p226 for $800 or even less?

@Bristecom

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that makes no sense to me. The Beretta 92FS can be imported from Italy and still cost half as much despite being even more complicated/more expensive to make than the P226. I've always wanted a P226 but I'm not paying over $1000 for one! They never used to cost that much!

@darrelldunlap7249

Ай бұрын

Looks as if the p226 is not for you!

@Bristecom

Ай бұрын

@@darrelldunlap7249 If I get one, it'll be a P226 Legion SAO on sale.

This is not an homage to the old German Sigs. This is an homage to an early 00’s Sig.

Most 226s are $1200, WHUT?

@ripthejacker6020

Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. You can find Legion models on sale for around $800 from time to time.

@MILSPECMONKEY

Ай бұрын

@@ripthejacker6020 I guess he not wrong looking at SIG site prices, but I just remember getting my 226 in the 2000s and was no where near that even new.

@razieldrakis

Ай бұрын

Anything over $600 for used P226 is nuts. They really need to bring back the P227.

@Verdha603

Ай бұрын

Brand new? $1200 is par for the course. Paid $1250 for my Mk 25 back in 2019, and my 226 Legion was around $1400 last year.

@sportsman48

Ай бұрын

James being the ultimate gentleman- sig has lost their minds

From a shooter's standpoint, I'd opt for the Mk25. Costs less and has more features.

@garyreid2178

Ай бұрын

I have the Mk25. Great firing gun. Perfect for security work. I paid $1,200.00 for and I have no regrets. The grips feel a lot better than the previous grips and is more comfortable.

Hopefully this motivates S&W to release the 5906

@LastManStanding.45

Ай бұрын

Indeed!

@pablofortain4945

Ай бұрын

4006❤

@President-Nixon

Ай бұрын

Spoiler: It won’t. To get the tooling up and running for one model of firearm is a big waste and gamble. Even a few of the model lines from that era isnt worth it for them as the cost to sell them now would be easily $1000+. Unfortunately they’ve switched to polymer along time ago as the bread and butter of money making.

@JB22636

Ай бұрын

@@President-Nixon that's what I heard as well. A modern 5906 would be so expensive it wouldn't be competitive in today's market.

@chrisrogers6131

Ай бұрын

I wish!

I wanted it as a collector but after the price tag nevermind. I paid less for my legions.

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

It's insane

I like that it malfunctions right on camera. Modern Sig

I'm down for this. I hope it's affordable. Shouldn't be more than $700 street, right Sig? Edit: Fuck me, Sig. $1200? Thanks. A CA compliant P226 Nitron is only $850 right now. Damn, I wanted one of these.

Coming back? It never went away 😉

@SomeKidFromBritain

Ай бұрын

Rail-less though

@Sig_P229

Ай бұрын

@@SomeKidFromBritaintrue but they have the M11

@SomeKidFromBritain

Ай бұрын

@@Sig_P229 longer slide than that though

@HighSpeedNoDrag

Ай бұрын

@@SomeKidFromBritain Who needs Rails?

Bring the SIG 556 back!!

P226: gun that built the reputation of Sig. P320: gun that ruined the reputation of Sig.

@libertylivesin1776

Ай бұрын

P320s are fine.

@ferrumchnop6617

Ай бұрын

But their reputation isn't. Lol

@RCGB31

Ай бұрын

LMAO...so true !

@731trident

Ай бұрын

@@Adam-zi5se if you ever get the chance, shoot an old-school P225, and an old-school P220. They are excellent weapons.

@erickawesome5191

Ай бұрын

The M-16 had a shit reputation at one time too

I see used 220s and 226s for 750 or less all the time. They are the elite versions too whatever the difference is

The 226 Tac ops was awesome, and 40 to 357 sig was brilliant!

Needs a stamped and welded slide

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

Yep, otherwise there's basically nothing retro about this P226. They didn't even recreate the German mag release and takedown lever

@ButteredToast81

Ай бұрын

Then it would cost $2000

@btfup

Ай бұрын

Actually, the solid stainless is more durable. That being said, I will pick up a classic sheet metal slide 225 when I find it.

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

@@btfup Of course it's more durable, but it also results in the price being doubled. It's also not a "retro" SIG if it's modern in every aspect sans rail

Price tag has the comments ready to size the means of projection

Bring back the P227!

@ElTejon47901

Ай бұрын

Still here in Indiana.

@nikik5567

Ай бұрын

In 10mm as well

@nikik5567

Ай бұрын

@@ElTejon47901then those are old stock. Sig discontinued them a few years back.

@ElTejon47901

Ай бұрын

@nikik5567 LOL, no, still made for ISP. SIG stopped COTS but I don't buy COTS shlock.

@user-jv4ic8rh4d

Ай бұрын

The most underrated 45 ever. P227 tactical elite. Came with 4-14 round mags. Try to find one of the mags, $180-250 if you can find one. Mine runs suppressed like a champ.

They really shot themselves in the foot with this one. No wait, that's the P320 😬

I adore seeing more guns and styling from this era brought back. Peak aesthetics, and they look much prettier without the rail up front IMO. And I do love it when they go the extra mile and recreate older packaging too.

Had a chance to buy a leo surplus one back in the 90s from a neighbor. He wanted $ 300 , thought that was too f- in high. Kickin myself for that one..

Wait, this is what they went with instead of a proper Sig Sauer 550 release in the US?

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

Pathetic!

I still have my retro sig P228 and the box. In my opinion it looks so much better than the ones with a rail.

$1200 for this is way too high. $800 would be more appropriate. The same people who thought the carry version of the Sig 210 was going to be big success probably thought this one up.

@oskar6661

Ай бұрын

Sig barely sells a single handgun under $1,000...

Just find a pre owned P226 Legion for around $950 like I did. People trade DA/SA semi autos all the time.

I have 2 JJ code P226's that are my all time favorite pistols, will be ordering this baby ASAP!

Supposingly the most elegant, classic looking, gentlemen SIG ever made. Love It. An icon. And a corner stone of SIGs company history. A collectors item. Reliable, durable, robust, precise, overbuilt, beautiful. My German stainless, black coated P226SL now has gone through about 40.000 rounds in 20 years and looks still like new. Just frequently changed the springs. Some Navy SEAL P226 may have gone through 250.000 to 500.000 rounds. What does somebody want more?

P226, best lefty gun making a comeback

They need to bring back the Tacops P226 with the Magwell grips and an optics cut

@kellyBorgman

Ай бұрын

I have a used one. Can't recall what it cost. It's a very nice pistol!!

finally, a new sig I want! it's about time.

The original stamped versions go for over $1200, but the milled stainless ones can be found for much less. It was the stamped slide that gave the original p225, p226, and p228 their great balanced feel. I have a handful of the pre-rail milled stainless Sigs and they really don't compare to the stamped predecessors' balance feel.

Next to the 210, the 226 is the best Sig ever made. Excelsior!

I always think of trading my P226 nitro in on something newer or cooler. But James 226 love videos always make me glad i bought it, and the fact i cant justify a staccato

This is really cool bro!!

I hadn’t realized how expensive new 226s have become. Last one I bought new was like a decade ago when I found a close out 226 tacops for just over $700.

No rail either :) brilliant!!!

Glad to hear this. I had a 1991 PreOwned 226 about 10 years ago and it was great. Has better balance than the one with the rail

I literally bough 2 P226 never issued LEO in .40 cal for 499 a piece. Came with night sites, 3 mags, new in the box. And you want 1200? 😂 I have a P226 legion DA/SA I paid 1100 for....

In 1995, I bought a brand new Sig P226 for a decent price and the slide has "West Germany" imprinted on it. It has a very smooth double action pull, compared to my much newer P226 Legion. This pistol is something I will keep forever and pass it on to my heirs. The price for the Retro P226, I am sure would be astronomical and probably only a few would buy it.

100% getting one

I’ve bought all of my West German Sigs (226,228, and 220) for $600 or less within the last couple years, and I still see them show up in LGS’s for around those prices. $1200 seems kind of silly.

If the slide is milled it is an imposter and a total fail. I also have one of the original West German guns with the folded and welded slide which to me is the best one ever made. I appreciate the effort and I am not mad, just disappointed. ;-)

CDNN in two years: $399

THERE we go. That’s more like it!

I have always wanted an Sig P226 , I have a Texas Ranger Sig P320 , n I have a P365 as my Derringer type piece , also love my Canik Rival n Mete n still Love my Glocks !!!! Guns are a Beautiful Thing !!! 💥🔫 from Commy Ct.🇺🇸

I still have an '85 226, w. German made. It's still head and shoulders above in quality than my new 226 elite.

Great handgun. I carried the SIG P228 for 19 years as my plainclothes duty handgun. It never let me down. I still have and still shoot it frequently. I love a DA/SA (or DAO) hammer fired handgun with NO safety, just a hammer drop feature like the P226/228. Best carry gun ever made!

@DavidLLambertmobile

Ай бұрын

DAK or DA only guns are +. I saw a few trade in LE DAK guns in .40, .357sig, 9mm. FAMs ✈️ used P229Rs for many years. State agency troopers like DE, VA had .357sig pistols too. Many years. Texas DPS; troopers went between P220Rs and P226Rs in .45, .357sig.

NEXT From Sig.. A Pistol from 45 years ago... Yeahh

@marlowek1936

Ай бұрын

At least you get: A basic 226 that doesn't have the OG Sig pedigree for way too much.

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

The pistols from 45 years ago were far better. I'd be ECSTATIC if this was a West German quality SIG

@john7m7usa

Ай бұрын

I bought my west German P220 in excellent shape for wayyyyy less than $1,200. Don’t get robbed people!

Bring it!

I wish it had the OG stamped slide for that price hike

I'm not a pistol guy. But I want one. Used them in the military as well as the M9, Glock 19, M1911 and M15 revolvers.

for a Base P226 the price should be around $749.. I"d just get the Mk25 and save a few hundred

The p226 is legitimately my favorite pistol, but even then I've always felt there was a needless premium on the price tag. I don't see how it's twice as expensive as a Beretta 92 series. If this was closer to $700 I'd be all about it, but not $1200.

Oh thank God! Now I'm going to find a new 1967 Mustang...

Here’s a sig I can like.

Bring back the caliber exchange kits for the p200 series handguns and this might actually sell

Ok make it available in 357 Sig like the 226 was

So you’re telling me I could get this or a legion? What is sig smoking?

@oskar6661

Ай бұрын

Government contract money, mostly.

I was really hoping for the rolled steel slide. I have a West German P220 with the rolled steel slide and heal release magazines. It was imported by Browning as the BDA and is in .45 ACP. It is a fine pistol.

BRING BACK THE 556 PLS & THANK YOU

@jackbauer4186

Ай бұрын

Sig is an Ar18 company now... No room for those pesky impingement systems.

@LinzRobo

Ай бұрын

@@jackbauer4186 The Sig 556 is long stroke like an AK lmao

I wonder if it has the same slight slide to frame rattle that made them so reliable back in the day.

So, does it rust like the classic as well? I had this as my sidearm over in Angola in the early 1990s and it was a rust magnet.

I like the classic sigs myself, in fact I do carry a vintage P226 in 40 myself. But I don’t see this as a next purchase since you can still get vintage sigs for cheap still (relatively). This isn’t a stamped steel slide like the originals and not from Germany. If a Sig without a rail is what you are looking for you can still go on the used market

I am carrying an old German frame P220 without a rail and an SAO Legion slide on it, so I am down with this for sure.

Yall had me at p226

@mauricemaurice123

Ай бұрын

P229 is better

@heiner71

Ай бұрын

@@mauricemaurice123 P210-6 is even better.

@williammatthews2948

Ай бұрын

@@mauricemaurice123 I own a MK25 and a 229 Legion. They're both excellent pistols.

@thegobblerproject2363

Ай бұрын

@@mauricemaurice123 in what way ?

@sleigh4019

Ай бұрын

Ill sell you as many as you want used if you'll send me 1200$ lol ..unreal

I have two west german sigs. Sig definitely used to make a more quality product than they do now, and for a better price back then. Quality has gone down while prices have gone up. I guarantee you can find many used german P226s for significantly less than $1200.

Will magazines and slides be exchangeable with regular sig p226?

But will it be as good as my MK25?

@kellyBorgman

Ай бұрын

I bought brand new a Mk 25. Great pistol!

Cool

That super high bore axis... Whao..

is this what i should get to complete my Michael Westen cosplay? i know he uses a 228 but what's really the difference when I'm a burned spy looking for whoever did me wrong?

Bring back the P225.

I have two 228 made in west Germany sig 9mm STRAIGHT OG. My pops gave it to me

Bring back the P226 combat

You can find West German Sigs @ Bass Pro / Cabela's online.. Fair prices as well

lol SIG USA saw there was a market for old Sigs (gee I wonder why) so they decided to make a new/ old Sig to cash in. "Yeah stop buying that old stuff. What do you want that for anyway? You want our new old stuff ..." Sig is dead. Long live Sig. Seeth harder Sig USA.

Oh man, I'm a sucker for 80's and 90's service pistols, and I love my West German 226, but I regularly see nice police trade-in's from Europe and Israel for half or a 1/3rd of that price.

Fair price since the box and all The retro stuff u get

But does it come with the P320’s surprise discharge feature?

Does the frame crack?

$1200 for a basic version of a 40 year old gun is insane.

This is what we wanted.

I own a W German 226 and wish it had a light mount.

Mmm retro MIM

I have an AREX Zero1 (P226 clone). 5000+ rounds through it and not a single misfeed or failure of any kind. The gun is extremely accurate and pleasant to shoot. I did add a set of new Hogue grips for $10 which helped. $Paid 349 for it brand new. $1200 bucks....meh.

Want a retro P225 (has a huge trigger guard for use with heavy gloves) with a lighter folded slide (lighter is better) and a heel magazine release (far less prone to accidental activation and more easily operated while wearing heavy gloves).

P239 🤤

That's great but it doesn't say "Made In West Germany" on the rollmarks

@burmiester1

Ай бұрын

That's the least of their problems. Aside from having the old frame style, grips and box virtually none of the features on this gun are built to the original specs.

@DocMitchell69

Ай бұрын

I’ve had three W Germans. They aren’t that good.

I guess im gonna pick up that used p226 at my local fudd shop for $650 now lol

Very cool. Now please bring back the classic Sig two-tone!!!! Would be wonderful to get it a two-tone SAO Legion. Just saying.

What happened to the P225 relaunch?

For that price they should include a dvd copy of point break!