Dr. Paine was one of my professors at the NWC. She's delightfully funny and engaging with a super sharp mind about her. Awesome stuff.

@fredwerza3478

16 күн бұрын

She hates Crooked Donnie --- I respect her for taking a stand on that

@igornegovelov8854

14 күн бұрын

@@fredwerza3478 hating someone deserves respect now... how sad She is a liar or ignorant, telling people that Putin ruins Crimea tourist industry is lunacy. I was there and see that so called industry with my own eyes. Don't waste your time listening her, even if you will - better check facts twice

@ronaldbell7429

12 күн бұрын

@@igornegovelov8854 You in turn are also either a liar or ignorant. You were there and saw what? The revenue accounts showing how many tourists come to Crimea now, vs pre-2014? No. All you saw was that it's a pretty place and a lot of Russians visit. Countries where the people actually have a moral compass are avoiding the place. But because Russians are all you Russians actually care about - and because the idea of a moral compass is probably repugnant to you - I'm sure it seemed like paradise.

@ronaldbell7429

12 күн бұрын

@@fredwerza3478 She took a stand but not a reasoned one. It's the first thing I've heard her talk about that I thought was ignorant. Note that Putin didn't invade while Trump was in office. He waited until what he thought was going to be Obama-2 was in office. Obama wanted nothing more than to pretend Ukraine didn't exist, and Putin seems to have counted on Biden being the same.. Biden's inept performance in Afghanistan likely strengthened Putin's expectation as well, and the Democrats historically were the ones who were soft on military force. To Biden's credit, he stood strong and also built a coalition in the West to also resist the Russians. I disagree with a lot of what he's done elsewhere, but I applaud him for what he's done with Ukraine (he's not blameless though, if these reports about putting pressure on Ukraine not to target Russian oilfields is true). But this nonsense that Trump would have just rolled over and let it happen is just that - nonsense. The proof of that is that Putin waited. Now, of course, Trump's adolescent oppositional defiant disorder takes center stage, as it often does (and not just with him; with politicians on both sides of the aisle). He'd rather Biden fail in all things than ever agree with him; if Trump becomes president again, he might not change his stance, either. But if this invasion had happened on Trump's watch, the response would almost certainly have been much more dramatic, and it's silly to pretend otherwise. Trump would likely have had to act unilaterally, though, since a lot of EU nations are like you - and in that sense, really no different than Trump himself. All you really care about is your partisan hatred. You can't put it aside and look at a situation without first asking your red-flag-blue-flag question, and that ends up being how you decide right-vs-wrong.

@t147han

10 күн бұрын

@@igornegovelov8854 Shows how doomed we are in the west.if this is doctor and professor teaching students this nonesense.

I can listen to her all day every day.

@mkdy218

Ай бұрын

Copy that! She makes a lot of sense!

@Johnzen03

Ай бұрын

You shouldn’t.

@shroudedghosthunter8463

Ай бұрын

I could as well. Also, I love it when people try to say she's wrong without explaining why.

@mikegarcia8412

Ай бұрын

Well she is a professor, I call it the professor effect.

@mikegarcia8412

Ай бұрын

​@@markarmage3776While I recommend hearing other opinions. There is nothing wrong in listening to an expert in her field. Reminder, she is used to teach and even while expressing her opinions her tone goes to her default which is teaching, there is no counter argument other than whatever she presents.

I had never heard of the Maritime Order before. It appears to be the earliest form of international law on which stability and prosperity is based.

@charliesmith4072

13 күн бұрын

Yes. Admiralty law goes back to the 13th Century. Most of 13th Century admiralty law is still in effect.

@VancouverInvestor

13 күн бұрын

Their bad guys are pirates. Our bad guys are privateers.

@kaixiang5390

11 күн бұрын

All international law is fundamentally based in the ability for nations to trade with each other on equal terms. Because China evolved outside Western influence, they’ve always, always only dealt with their neighbors as a superior, imperial power. That’s why they have so many issues adapting to the Maritime Order

@marcusrose6620

7 күн бұрын

ah yes the famously non-brutal and non-murderous British Empire

@normanwells2755

7 күн бұрын

@@marcusrose6620 According to previous comments it predated the British Empire.

Russia is a prime example of what happens when a few Ultra wealthy individuals, I.e. Oligarchs, rule a country based on their own personal benefits.

@kareno7848

16 күн бұрын

Man! Couldn't have said it better myself. Ukraine needs to stop doing that. Heck let's get rid of Zucky, Bezos, Gates and Musk as well.

@Alexander_Kale

13 күн бұрын

Reminds me a bit of North Korea. YOu have the dude at the top, he says what goes, then a couple of fellow rich monsters who live comfy lives thanks to a gentleman's agreement with the monarch, and the rest of the country suffers.

@billdodd6723

13 күн бұрын

You are absolutely right, Russian Oligarchs like Jamie Dimondski, Larry Finkski, Jeff Bezoski, Charles Kochski. Thank god Oligarchs don't run our country.

@Dordord

13 күн бұрын

You mean the us right? 😂 how dare you

@FrankandCents28

13 күн бұрын

Sounds just like the US.

What a refreshingly logical dialogue and presentation!

@jim9930

12 күн бұрын

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And the base things of the world, and the things which are despised, hath God chosen, Yea, and the things which are not, to bring to nought the things that are: I Corinthians 1; 25-29 May 21, 2011 was the beginning of judgement day on the world { you were warned } Natural minded men are in big trouble, Babylon (world system) is fallen. The Lord Jesus Christ is now ruling the nations with a rod of iron ( NOT for their good). Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at not all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity, I will mock when your fear cometh. Proverbs 1; 24-26 And it shall come to pass in that day, a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor. Zechariah 14;13 'Tumult' = disbelief & confusion Division is the result for the destruction of mankind. ...have you followed world events lately? spoiler alert: 'last day' = 2033 ( 17th day of 1st month ?? ) I find that refreshingly true... tectonic shift! A good question to ask these days... where are God's 200 million elect ? Maybe a million or two in Europe, same in N America, similar in S America. Half the world's population lives within 1000 miles of Singapore. Probably more of God's people in China alone than the entire western world! Africa and India, middle eastern nations comprise the remainder. ...the moat ain't so deep & wide, eh? Mercer County Pennsylvania USA (lifelong resident)

Just discovered Ms. Paine, and as someone who has studied history for decades I am humbled by how little I know. Incredibly bright lady.

@herehegoesagainmain3499

26 күн бұрын

It’s edited

@Stakker

23 күн бұрын

She’s really enlightening

@jlvandat69

23 күн бұрын

@@Stakker A walking, talking encyclopedia on history.

@Silver_Prussian

12 күн бұрын

If you have studied history then you should know about the hundreds ot times people have been led astray to the wrong path by being blinded by fear of something that doesnt exist.

@user-ib9ky2jo9h

12 күн бұрын

⁠@@Silver_Prussianand the millions of times fools have thought themselves wise.

Fascinating and informative perspective from Sarah Paine - keep it coming!

@herehegoesagainmain3499

26 күн бұрын

It’s edited

@stevechance150

17 күн бұрын

She just showed up in my Google feed. Thanks algorithm! You got it right for once.

@ireminmon

11 күн бұрын

Fascinating is how people still fall for it lmao XD "US is not a hegemon, nobody wants a world with US as a hegemon, Russia should be brought back into the 'maritime rules based order' for trade like Japan and Germany (still occupied after 80 years lmao)"

Russian troops are in Belarus and Kaliningrad, so they are right in the Polish border right now

@99thTuesday

Ай бұрын

Pedantry is fun, but rarely helpful.

@solaireastora5394

Ай бұрын

Not in army sized numbers

@robertbaratheon8635

Ай бұрын

@@solaireastora5394 yes, Wagner is on the border, also there are Russian nukes in Belarus

@dinismantas7265

Ай бұрын

They are, but right now they can't do crap all with Ukraine in their backs. Besides, Russia doesn't even control access by land to Kaliningrad. With Sweden (who control Gottland) and Finland joining NATO, they don't control the Baltic. I am sure Putin would go for the Baltic States (at least Lithuania) if he: a) Is able to get control over Ukraine, b) Builds his forces once again, c) Sees strong enough signs of the weakening of NATO.

@crhu319

Ай бұрын

​@@dinismantas7265Lithuania literally signed a treaty staking its own independence on not interfering with Russia to Russia transit to Kaliningrad

This Lady Knows her Stuff....

@hereLiesThisTroper

29 күн бұрын

No she don't

@igornegovelov8854

29 күн бұрын

no she don't :) She is total ignorant in some cases

@lydieblog

25 күн бұрын

@@hereLiesThisTroper Three words, one giant mistake. She talks for 7 minutes and does not make one. :)

@aeiouaeiou100

20 күн бұрын

Oh really. Please give some examples and tell us why you know better.

@igornegovelov8854

20 күн бұрын

@@aeiouaeiou100 maybe because i live in Russia. How many times she was in Russia? (dont't think it could help her with such mind set) It's just unbelivable how many educated people lecturing total mess about our country. It's not about do they like us or hate or whatever, the main thing that lots of their words, thoughts and conclusions are too far from reality. You guys in the west made up some virtual model of Russia and bulding up all your knowledge and plans above this very shaky fundament. At some points and some cases your vurtual model is correct, but it doesn't help. Most things i hear in western media is ignorance, ignorance and one more time ignorance. And then we hear moaning "Oh.. sanctions doesn't work", "oh we underestimate this", "oh we underestimate that" Pathetic

I would love to hear her debate John Mearsheimer!

@dinismantas7265

Ай бұрын

I watched a two and half lecture on Mearsheimer branch of realism and I wasn't impressed. I have been watching several of her videos and I find that her reasoning has a lot more depth than Mearsheimer's. Off course, I still would have to learn a lot more about their work (not sure I have the time).

@justinbourgeois4685

Ай бұрын

John is a dork. He's a CCP shill

@ed1pk

Ай бұрын

Also would like to hear her opinion or speak with Peter Zeihan. 👍

@voight-kampff3611

Ай бұрын

​@@dinismantas7265Then read Ron Unz.

@inraid

Ай бұрын

Mearsheimer is nothing other than a broken jukebox!

Whether some in the US today "believe" it or not, we live in a very interconnected world. To say "I don't believe in that" to such a statement is equivalent to saying you don't believe in trees - this exists whether one "believes in" it or not. The question - if in your heart you truly think an interconnective world "sucks" - is this: 'What do you propose to stop 'it' from 'sucking?'" Some thoughts. We CAN give up buying windmills & solar panels from the 7th and 9th, respectively of the top 10 largest manufactures of those - China - because we have centuries of oil & natural gas reserves beneath our domestic Lower 48 feet as well as in the subsurface of allies on both our north & southern borders. We CANNOT in the immediate term give up buying cheap clothing & household goods/appliances from China or the plethora of other things we import from Western Europe and former Soviet bloc countries of Eastern Europe; we CAN jettison those imports someday DECADES from now, perhaps, if we set in motion today to re-onshore much of those nations' currently-imported industrial production, but we haven't the raw materials domestically to support those processes and would still be dependent on many other nations for such commodities . . . nations with whom we'd need cordial & mutually beneficial trade relations. And even if we did all that, we'd need a workforce educated to participate in that economy. In the century leading up to and 2-3 decades post-WWII, we emphasized basic math (arithmetic, geometry), reading comprehension & writing skills needed to produce a relatively literate manufacturing workforce along with a solid cadre of collegians learning skills directly applicable to the job market you envision (engineers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, and, yes, those who chose military service as a deliberate - not last resort - career path to protect our nation). We don't have that today . . . and it would likely take an entirely new generation of retrained educators at all levels, especially K-12, to produce the educational system required to yield that workforce. Likewise, it would require a massive re-education of our populace to understand that "compassion" is spelled "J-O-B" (the dignity of meaningful work, building skill sets, advancement and the attendant financial independence & personal sense of self-worth), and is not spelled "S-U-B-S-I-D-Y."

I highly recommend her book, _The Wars for Asia._

@jjhoughton2812

25 күн бұрын

To be brainwashed. Come on over to live here and see.

@Unknown-jy7ku

24 күн бұрын

​@@jjhoughton2812 are you asian ?

@RooTheGuy

12 күн бұрын

@@Unknown-jy7ku He's an immigrant who's loves Thai age of consent laws

@Unknown-jy7ku

12 күн бұрын

@@RooTheGuy 🥴

@JIlu46

12 күн бұрын

​​@@RooTheGuy💀😂😂😂

I usually avoid videos on politics because they tend to devolve into ambiguity, ignorance, and cognitive dissonance. This clip convinced me to give the full interview a chance, and it did not disappoint. Sarah Paine is exceptionally clear, knowledgeable, and grounded in everything she says, and you did a great job bringing out her talents.

@stihlnz

Ай бұрын

Chadwick. superbly summarised ..no reply necessary

@Chinfo32

Ай бұрын

Agreed!!!

@MrFnfal

Ай бұрын

Yet she s wrong about 50% of the time.

@solaireastora5394

Ай бұрын

​@@MrFnfalpoint out where she is wrong please

@voight-kampff3611

Ай бұрын

​​ Here you go. She forgot to mention Mackinder; the economic heartland theory. Mother of all conflicts. Global power in his essence. A free consultation for you.

The world isn’t only about land or economic strategy - there are profound psychological factors at work.

@charliesmith4072

13 күн бұрын

If you listen to her, she talks about that. Here she is talking about the psychology of security.

This misses a big consideration. Putin isn't motivated primarily by developing a wealthy country. Like fundamentalist Muslims, Putin believes that he is the keeper of Eastern Orthodox morality and doesn't want him and his country to live in a Western liberal world.

@michaelking9964

Ай бұрын

Yep

@fezzoggg5

Ай бұрын

True enough. However this ignores the hard fact that it’s money that makes the world go around. It’s one thing to defend something grand like morality but without the resources to defend it you are fighting a losing battle. Putin will fail because he’s destroying the living standards of the very people he is supposed to defend.

@ihabibrahim8902

Ай бұрын

This is a westernized look by people who know the conflict from far. Putin, like Stalin before him, wants to preserve the great Russian Empire and Soviet dream. Although I don't agree with Dr P about Trump letting Putin take over Ukraine (Trump is a partner of Kolomsky who is the oligarch behind Zelensky) I do agree that Putin isn't good for the general majority of Russian population (about half a million dead soldiers show that ) but he's , like Stalin before him, writing history and forging the past to make his time look a success

@whitescar2

Ай бұрын

He only wants a big Russia. And this is a fundamental problem, because the nations bordering Russia do not want to be part of Russia. Putin could have spent his effort building a strong and prosperous Russia, but he didn't. He has chosen a policy plan that inevitably leads to conflict with Russia's neighbors.

@YoY664

Ай бұрын

Riiight. A former Soviet trained Ex KGB officer who has publicly lamented the collapse of Soviet union is the patron saint of the Orthodox religious order. You people need to stop sniffing your own farts. Putin is corrupt and old but stupid he is not. Also If he were a religious fundamentalist like you so claim then why hasn't he initiated a 21st century reconquista on their southern holdings that are under their dominion with the same religious zealousness that you claim Putin possesses ? He is a competent statesman, to realise that you would have to stop drinking the sanctimonious propaganda that your own govts put out and learn to read between the lines. There was a Russia before Putin, you lot living your privileged lives fellating yourselves on winning elections are never going to recognise that ideological fetishes are subservient to security. Ironically the same reason the Ukrainians are fighting tooth and nail, western left liberals like to j3rk0ff to the fact that they are championing demookrazy, but self awareness and recognition of reality was never their strongsuit, Russia is your adversary and you want to see them fall, that's a plain and simple enough motivation, that's honest but wrapping yourself in insufferable propaganda just makes you blind to reality. I mean there was talks of Ukrainians beating back the Russians, sure the Ukrainians have overperformed surprising even most American analysts and observers but war fatigue is real and Russians have but forward to match.

I would love to hear she debating John Mearsheimer

@gregoryedwards9097

Ай бұрын

Would love this as well. This would be a battle of Wizards lol.

@grantwithers

16 күн бұрын

There would be no debate, they're of one mind on everything lolol.

First maritime power was Portugal which pushed Ottomans out of spice trade, and Dutch later kicked them till UK emerged as top dog, until they were replaced by USA in WWII..It was less bloody then fights between France and Germans but still hard from peaceful.

@grantwithers

16 күн бұрын

Pretty sure greece and rome and carthage etc. etc. have all been maritime powers.

The problem is not everyone follow this concept. Some are obsessed with power and territory.

I think with Russia, it's mostly about ego. They can't imagine the world where they join someone else's order. The world: "Come, Russia, join. Be prosperous." Russia: "I want to control it, otherwise it's foreign intervention."

@maartilium

28 күн бұрын

Yeah and now they're a chinese commodity colony

@veloboy1

26 күн бұрын

Putin asked if he'd be allowed to join nato, got rejected without formally applying. US now calls the shots

@maartilium

26 күн бұрын

@@veloboy1 that was never seriously proposed or considered. Stop painting russia as a victim lol

@JohnSmith-vy7ck

25 күн бұрын

@@veloboy1 He would have been required to give up the security of access to his their nuclear weapons. He was never going to do that. Deal ender right there.

@brianmead7556

22 күн бұрын

Russia tried to join. EU said NO. NATO said no. Trying to go western saw Russia lose HDI and GDP every single year 1988-2001, with TRILLIONS of dollars siphoned out into the West under the regime of western puppet Yeltsin who saw 3 civil wars in his term and shelled his own parliament with western counsel. Russia tried to join the West and the West exploited it to try to destroy and bankrupt the country. The West had its chance to prove to Russia it had changed. Russia has learned better.

In the last year of the Obama administration, the U.S. established the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which provided U.S. military equipment and training to help defend Ukraine against Russian aggression. From 2016 to 2019, Congress appropriated $850 million for this initiative. The Trump administration in 2017 agreed to provide lethal aid to Ukraine, later committing to sell $47 million in Javelins. - AP

@MarcoBonechi

Ай бұрын

That's when Putin was sure he would win easy. Clearly he knows he needs Trump back to undo all the help. You just proved the point that Trump will bring death and destruction to Ukraine but also to the world economy and inflation 3x what has been recently.

@montrelouisebohon-harris7023

Ай бұрын

Yes!! in the trump administration did not want Ukraine join NATO but they didn’t want them to be able to defend themselves because America in UK promised that when you can get rid of their nukes in 1991

@jtremblay100

Ай бұрын

Then trump tried to hold up 400 million dollar in aid. Trump was trying to use a mafia carrot and stick approach to get Ukraine to do what he wants. The man is an a-hole.

@dinismantas7265

Ай бұрын

Trump was pissed off because the Ukrainians didn't do what he wanted in that Biden son issue.

@EnterpriseKnight

Ай бұрын

Just 47 million in Javelins. You've got to be shitting me.

I get worried when a prof at the naval war College says a putin victory against Ukraine puts Russian troops on the polish border ?? Does poland and Russia not share a border ??

@godzillasmother

24 минут бұрын

Sort of - Kalingrad does, but it is disconnected from the rest of Russia - Russia cant use it as a base to attack

2:05:00 but to be honest, while she says the Chinese would be unsatisfactory strategists all the while repeatedly quoting Sun Tzu (death grounds). Quoting the greatest Chinese strategist of all time more than anyone else.

@ilovemuskoka

8 күн бұрын

@raplopez4258: Just because she quotes Sun Tzu doesn't imply that the Chinese leadership is somehow as smart as Sun Tzu. Sun Tzu was exceptionally brilliant, and dimwitted communist political hacks are no match for Sun Tzu's strategic ability, just because they are members of the same race. Consider Carl von Clausewitz, a brilliant Prussian strategist. He was every bit the equal of Sun Tzu despite a different era of history. But that connection didn't stop the terrible German strategies of the 1930s where they chased away the vast majority of their intellectuals and scientists and artists, leaving them a rump of the nation they once were. Nor did it stop their epic blunders of the 1940s where they destroyed themselves and most of Europe.

@robert-jason-king

7 күн бұрын

​@@ilovemuskoka not for nothing, but consider the hollowing out of the manufacturing industry over the last 30 years, with the increasing amounts of 😩🔫 due to economic despair and epidemic levels of 💉, those dimwitted communist political hacks basically instituted a one-child policy on the US. They're moving the pieces they can move, and they're buying all the oil they can drink from Russia.

this lady is fantastic. the wealth and glamor that developed societies provide can't be taken my force. game theory always proves being honest and trustworthy wins in the long run.

I like her presentations and she is obviously very bright and skilled. However, I think a continental outlook is one of necessity. If someone can drive tanks across your border you have a different view. The US (and for that matter the UK, Japan, etc) have the luxury of lots of water and/or very weak neighbors to insulate them from invasion.

@mikegarcia8412

Ай бұрын

Well, Russia has little ports or opportunities for maritime trade without crossing west controlled areas.

@fatal_error8397

Ай бұрын

All middle powers in Europe (France, Germany, Spain, Italy) have switched to the maritime concept.

@meanmachine99999

29 күн бұрын

Just funny to me how the “win-win” is exclusive to western/white powers and in the future when there’s less and less resources it’s gonna be China and India who will suffer the most…. The absolute extraction of resources out of China and India is the most masterful manipulation of a population in modern history that will be studied in the future

@Normally_aspirated

29 күн бұрын

She covers that- "if you look at europe as a peninsula"

@Rabiusa

12 күн бұрын

Yes, that's the historic origin of the difference and I'm sure Dr Paine meant it as well. However, fortunately the way history has played out, today you don't even have to have a coastline today to be more "maritime" - just have friendly neighbors that share the same view.

Thank you so much Mrs. Paine, I am so happy about the things you said, so clear and thoughtful.

What's the Monroe Doctrine, if not America's way of forbidding any threat from neighbouring territory/seaway? How is Putin portrayed as paranoid in not wanting NATO on his doorstep; when JFK is hailed - rightly so in my view - as the man who made sure the Soviets packed-up their missiles and sailed away?

How does collective sanctioning fit in?

@SamiNami

Ай бұрын

If you dont behave, you are not allowed to trade

@philognosis6409

Ай бұрын

​@@SamiNamiSo the United States should have been sanctioned for Iraq? No because it is my rules applied by me.

@olmostgudinaf8100

Ай бұрын

​@@philognosis6409 Maybe it should have, maybe not. But that is irrelevant. Every new case is a new chapter. "X should get away with it because Y got away with it in the past" is a terrible way of conducting affairs. It leads to an endless cycle of violence that never ends. (There are also differences in details. The US did not invade Iraq for territorial expansion.)

@SamiNami

Ай бұрын

@@philognosis6409 The US did not conquer any land in Iraq, it's different from Russia.

@rhoansuede7938

28 күн бұрын

@@philognosis6409 Whataboutism strikes again!!

Yes because in Europe there's a war every 20 years big ones so by joining NATO Europe hasn't been in a war or should I say 3 war's We found away to talk

Are maritime powers members of the Trade Federation in Star Wars?

The professor from my old Alma mater has an exceptionally US centric view on international affairs. On one note; US weakness in foreign policy, European dependency on Russian gas, the steep rise in oil price helped Putin make the decision to invade Ukraine.

Does Sarah have a Twitter account?

@GCarty80

7 күн бұрын

Or a Mastodon account?

Neocon

@nosheizer1294

Ай бұрын

Tell everyone you don’t actually know what the word means without telling everyone😝🤣😂🤡

She's absolutely right on her accessment. 👏👏👏 I've been exposing those delirious Imperial russian lies for 2 years, she's saying it beautifully! Sharing this.

Thank you Ms. Paine. INCREDIBLE.

good framework for discussion indeed: land power v sea power, might is right v rule of law...

@YoY664

Ай бұрын

Are you stupid or just trying hard to be so ? Sea power doens't automatically predispose one to pursue "rule of law". Sea power leads to maritime imperial holdings. UK, Spain, Portugal, Dutch, Belgians. They explicitly use might is right to serve their mercantilist interest, Nothing wrong with that. But framing your self as some how morally above the fray just makes you look stupid when the reality couldn't be further from the truth. Look up how many wars the brits had to win and how many negotiations and machinations they had to initiate to forge their empire. Might is Right is the Universal truth, the very foundation of anthropo supremacy over planet earth. Same reason why people sitting on the other ends of the planet can fight on a common platform with words.

Very interesting. Not the angle I'm used to hearing but she makes a lot of sense.

@brianmead7556

Ай бұрын

It’s exact same angle you hearevery time. Ha ha the west is the best. Ha ha Russia sucks, don’t forget Putin evil!

Another Condi Rice! There is a stratum of brilliant Americans that statistics cannot account for their existence: any other country or culture with far greater numbers do not produce such people. The best thing: they elevate the thinking of those who are fortunate enough to listen to them and reflect on what they say. The great American Masters of music, literature, thought, athletics, science....

She’s brilliant

How does national debt play into this formula? I’d love to understand how the speaker sees what we are doing as sustainable.

What a treat it was to hear your insight. Thank you!

What I wonder about is imbalance trade. For example, if country A does things to have more money out go than income it must use any means possible to evolve into more money coming in than going out. Country B experiences tariffs by A so A can off set its losses. Then country B has to figure out how to counter its new losses. Sometimes countries even resort to war to get what they want. Would it be possible for country C to think self sufficiency so it doesn't Need anything from any other country. Why isn't self sufficientcy a world wide goal; live with what you have? Otherwise there will never be peace!

Rehash of Brzezinski's "Grand Chessboard" from 1997.

@dkoz8321

Ай бұрын

Brez's Grand Chessboard was envisioned with regard to USSR and rising China, and india being intermediate power. Now USSR is gone, Russia is an intermediate , aggresive nuclear armed power, China is a continental superpower in Asia, India is on rise, and Islamic World in in disarray.

What a brilliant yet just simply pragmatic/historical view on geopolitics. You listen to her and you just think...obviously...why didn't I see it this clearly?

THIS WOMEN IS BRILLIANT!

Can PBS please give this woman a weekly show? Please?

Thanks!

Describing the British world order in the 18th century as win-win is ludicrous. Does she know how the Dutch and Brits enforced "free trade"? Does she know the Brits used piratery (aka breaking all sort of maritime rules) to catch up and then overcome the Spanish Empire? Does she know it wasn't free trade but it was monopolised by the East India Company and other companies? Has she ever heard of the world "colonialism" ?

@zmajooov

28 күн бұрын

She is a narrative parrot that only impresses the midwits and kids in elementary school, of course she doesn't, it's not her job to know those things.

@gyozop

28 күн бұрын

I think she is not as simple and stupid as her explanations. Well, maybe.

@9696sperry

28 күн бұрын

@@gyozop I think she deliberately simplifies history in order to fit the narrative of the "Holy West", but maybe she is an awful historian without any hidden agenda. Both are valid.

@jimbodimbo981

27 күн бұрын

In the era;y days before an Empire, yes Britain used privateers, but as time moved on it created international structures and moral frameworks such as abolition of world slavery at great cost to itself. You’re welcome.

@9696sperry

27 күн бұрын

@@jimbodimbo981 the abolition of slavery argument is bs: the development of industries required "free" workforce coming from rural areas. The conflict between the Southern Confederation and the North in the Civil War was based on this premise: thousands and thousands of free slaves moving to big cities to be employed in factories. It wasn't an act of good for good sake and to believe it was it's pure self-delusion. If it was slaves would have gotten reparations, not slave owners.

I’d love to see her question presidential candidates and be given some time to correct them. Would be some great tv

Fantastic discussion. Sheds a whole lot of sense on world order. Explains a lot.

If she has written any books that deal with the topics discussed here, I will buy them. If not - she needs to get right on that.

@Ken-fh4jc

Ай бұрын

She’s written several. A quick google search will show at least 6.

Smooth talker but she's certain of the unknowable

@hillbilly4895

Ай бұрын

No shit. She ignores that Putin invaded Crimea under Obama in '14. Waits for Biden in '22. Then, has the balls to say, "if Trump were President, Russia would be on Polands border" I'm no Trumper...but the facts are Putin gets aggressive when D's have the White House. If I were POTUS, I wouldn't let her near my NatSec apparatus.

I want to hear more of this lady.

I like how she prefaces her following statements at the start with, "My views." This is an important distinction vs trying to pass off her concepts as inarguable law. It really plays to the topics she talks about, about powers that work well with others and those that don't and the success thereof.

It's interesting that the ruzzian term for an oligarchs exclusive zone means "feeding area" Ukraine gives them more "feeding zones" to keep the elite support.

"Trump" was the first word out of her mouth. 'Nuff said.

@johndon762

29 күн бұрын

Interesting take on Trump. A more likely outcome had Trump been in office is that Putin would not have invaded. I like her discussion but I think she suffers a tad of TDS. Russia has attacked Ukraine openly twice in 2014 and then 2022. I don't recall Trump being in office during either event.

@valentinetarangojr.616

28 күн бұрын

Truth hurts, huh?

@Dabhach1

28 күн бұрын

@@valentinetarangojr.616 Not as much as TDS.

@valentinetarangojr.616

28 күн бұрын

@@Dabhach1 So you Trump Devotion Syndrome

@LHCper

15 күн бұрын

I listened to the clip and the first word was "You".

Imagine what would happen if we spent money on our infrastructure and electric grid instead of Iraq and Afghanistan? How much of would we be? How about money to develop a western supply channel for batteries and chips.

Does the US have no internal problems to resolve?

00:45 but there are Russian troops on the polish border....

You should read the Istanbul peace treaty before you tell us what peace without US involvment should look like in Ukraine. Its not that hard to go to the sources.

@star-gs9kh

Ай бұрын

She's saying nonsense

@nosheizer1294

Ай бұрын

@@star-gs9kh Says the expert at nonsense🤣😝🤡

Totally agree about Russia

Fully agree!!

Love her take on how we keep the peace, and why Russia doesn’t really work. Notable, is that America saw Communism as the world threat it was and is, and determined that Japan, near China, and Germany, near Russia, had to re-enter the world as democratic partners or it wouldn’t work. The Marshall Plan is a remarkable story of using America’s financial strength to influence a struggling Europe after WW II, in order to keep it out of Stalin’s clutches. The story of getting France and England to accept Germany as a partner is worth the read. I have also wondered why the oligarchs and Putin don’t see entering the Western world of treaties and financial gain as something that would benefit them. Yes, you might lose some power and total control, of course, but the benefits would be broad and significant over the long run. I guess cooperation with other nations means giving up absolute control over life and death, and he’s just not willing to do that.

Those walls are breached by our own country. Our country does not follow a lot of the Rules Based Order laws that we demand other nations to follow. Nations that are at a disadvantage. This is akin to Jeff Bezos reaching the wealth he has reached, and then afterwards intervening into government to place laws that make others unable to grow in the ways he did. We do this with free trade, advising other nations to do so for their 'benefit' based on Neoliberalism, when our own nation did not get to where it is by those same rules. This is the reason why the Global South is slowly separating itself from the US. In the 90s, those nations had trust in the US and truly believed in following the US and World Banks' advice in order to get to where first countries are. Now they're recognizing it has all been a lie, especially the seizure of Russian assets. She's insanely knowledgeable, and I've learned from her listening to her interview here (Everyone has their own bias so it's important to recognize that diving into these). But listen to Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. Staunch opposer of US Foreign Policy and someone who served high up in the ranks dating back from Reagan to the Bush administration. He is honest in his critique of the US, something I can't and don't expect from Sarah as she is currently teaching at the Naval War College. I would love for her to either speak to Lawrence Wilkerson or Andrei Martyonov. We need more discussions with opposing equals to really see where they agree and disagree.

@DSan-kl2yc

Ай бұрын

That's crap. I don't know where you're from but you don't know enough about the history. Not an insult. Like trust in the US? You've got it backwards. There was no trust and they've had to build it and maintain it. But that doesn't mean not trusting the order. Look at Mexico. I doubt any country sees seizure of Russian assets as some lie of the order system. Russia broke the rules. There's fundamentally something wrong with what it seems is you bringing up some old aspect of a country to where it's at in modern times.

People take action because it is in their emotional best interest. It is feeling over fact.

Imagine-if all countries used their resources to make life better for us all--Imagine

Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule This article is more than 2 years old George Robertson recalls Russian president did not want to wait in line with ‘countries that don’t matter’ - The Guardian

@crhu319

Ай бұрын

Yes well signing up everyone right up to the Russian border while Russia is in the queue, THEN refusing Russia, would start a war. Oh. Wait.

@daliborbenes5025

Ай бұрын

It's a sad symptom of the status-based Russian society. If Putin would lower himself to become only a peer of countries like Romania or Belgium, the Russian society would perceive him as a weak and therefore replaceable leader. Because Putin wants to stay being the leader of Russia, and the elites around want to maintain their status as well, he's locked himself into this 19th century 'great continental power' play.

@LancesArmorStriking

Ай бұрын

​@@daliborbenes5025 I don't think any country takes kindly to being humiliated. Case in point: Congress is seething about TikTok because it's a manifestation of China's success over America's economic darling: all the Silicon Valley companies which were displays of its advanced economy. America lost in the free market, so they want to push China out. They'll certainly try to.

@matsgustafsson46

28 күн бұрын

@@daliborbenes5025its a guess that most members in EU and NATO knew how much Putin had done to continue the diastrous corruption in Russia. Although he spent much on rebuild St Petersburg and Moscow.

Quite brilliant, Sarah Paine, and quintessentially American in the most positive way.

This woman could be Secretary of State

Imagine where the US could be if we didn’t spend all our $ on MIC

If Russia joined the "Europa Club", then its oligarchs would creep in to positions of power in the EU governing body and exert influence at that level.

@stan3070

Ай бұрын

Unlike every other country in Europe because the west never commits crimes no never lmao

@migram4190

Ай бұрын

Ooh just like the joo?

I don't agree that Trump would have sacrificed Ukraine. Reading someone's mind is fraught with leril

@nosheizer1294

Ай бұрын

What’s “leril”? 😝 By the way genius, Orange Jabba says he would encourage Russia to “do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough”. It’s very clear what the Orange Jabba would have done. 🤡

@fatal_error8397

Ай бұрын

Trump blocks any help to Ukraine right now, which shows that he is willing to sacrifice Ukraine. Judging by their action is a good way do read someones mind.

@dennisbrown5313

18 күн бұрын

Just listen to his words - LMAO

This woman is brilliant!

Great interview Dwarkesh! How about a next interview with someone specialized in articulation? So difficult to understand what you are saying. Love your work nonetheless.

Didn't hear anything post-western here

@FlashdogFul28

Ай бұрын

what would that look like ? What is there other than trying to find a way to slove an issue in a peaceful way ? War ?

@MitchellPorter2025

Ай бұрын

@@FlashdogFul28 Sarah Paine only talks about what she calls a "maritime order" of economic cooperation that is centered in the West. Her response to "continental" powers like Russia and China is that if they do bad things, they will be sanctioned and excluded indefinitely from this West-centered order, hurting their economic development, until they reform themselves. Well, those countries are building their own economic and security alliances (BRICS, SCO, etc) independent of the West. That's the most post-western thing happening but it wasn't mentioned at all.

@abhia1311

Ай бұрын

Because she doesn't know ?? Or not paid to speak on it. Or uncomfortable truths a propagandists avoid ?? Ask why suddenly this lady is all over the KZread. Somebody is propping her up from the dungeons of Academia. ​@@MitchellPorter2025

‘Rules based order’ 😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣

@JohnsJohnson-ns5xm

19 күн бұрын

Rules for thee not me. She just sounds a lot to me like another talking head who has not spent enough time in the real world.

@yellowwasprakija2869

18 күн бұрын

@@JohnsJohnson-ns5xm 100%

@TheAndroidNextDoor

18 күн бұрын

@@JohnsJohnson-ns5xm While I don't think what we have is a perfect "rules based order" by any means, the fact you have that opinion shows you've never travelled outside the castle walls she speaks of. Or even bothered to look over them. Things aren't perfect here by any means but you really have absolutely no idea just how hellish things can get and often are without even the flawed system we have here.

@JohnsJohnson-ns5xm

18 күн бұрын

@@TheAndroidNextDoor analysis. Traveled all over the world with the seventh and fifth fleet bombing people into submission and then visiting ports traveled European northern Africa extensively. The sad part is you want to compare the US to some of these shit hole place. What I’m saying is we are one of these shit hole places and we never used to be. I am 65. I’ve watched things go down the toilet extensively in my lifetime and for many cases there really doesn’t seem to be a real reason except the moral decay of our society and all the problems that go with it so yeah I have traveled extensively and I’m basing my views on my personal experiences, I’d say the only place I’ve traveled in the last 30 years that I’ve seen uplift itself would be Germany from the 80s when I was there extensively till now and I watched their society change from worst to better and specially Berlin.

@Allmotorzl1

17 күн бұрын

@@JohnsJohnson-ns5xmThanks for your analysis. If its worth anything i’m 26 and 100% agree with you. I study history and see the crap the west (specifically the US) has pulled and is doing especially now. It’s sad. We are doing exactly what we are accusing other countries of doing. And last i checked, us normal citizens have absolutely no say in our own (democratic) US government anymore. They literally do whatever they want and get away with it.

I want to see her debate with John Mearsheimer!

ABSOLUTE GOLD ! :) Greetings from Poland. ;)

I have never heard anyone who is this knowledgeable about geopolitics as ths lady.

She lectures how China brought millions out of poverty but doesn’t say that the US put millions of its own citizens into poverty and proceeds to lecture China in economics

@matthew8505

28 күн бұрын

U r dum

@user-cx4px3jh2f

28 күн бұрын

Can't be an expert in everything. They bought her in to talk ask about potential adversaries. Her field. That she spent a lifetime studying. Otherwise, yes. I do take your point. I too would think US has more to fear from internal issues.

@TheBarbarella76

14 күн бұрын

Many Amercians also got much richer due to trade with China and unemployemnt is overall low. I think the main issue is a change in the distribution of wealth and income. Traditional jobs do no longer pay out as much as in the past. This could be fixed but with good sytem for redistribution but this is against the core values of the US adn even those who would benefit reject the idea.

"Europeans as a group understand that it's important to have an impregnable border..." Give me a fucking break. The European contribution to NATO and even their own defense on the whole is laughable, with maybe Poland and Finland being the only obvious exceptions. They have been all too happy to pump money into entitlements and pet projects and leave the fighting and the dying and the defense spending to someone else. They did nothing and pivoted in no way when Crimea was taken, because they really thought they could appease Russia with trade and wine, the rich continued to get rich off not preparing for war. Wrong again. How do such smart people like Sarah come to such ridiculous points of view when its literally their life focus? They are all just way too rosy on the repeated utter failures of the west. Yeah, Bidens having a lot of meetings... what's the outlook on artillery shells, fighting age men, mines? Not in the short term but for the next 10 years? Where's the production? Silence. How amazing were the cluster bomb and mine ban treaties? Who did that really serve? Silence. No answers. No accountability.

Continental order actions like invasion and occupation are positive and visible, and thus can be framed as strength. However, maritime order actions like preventing disruption to commerce are invisible and appear by default to be ineffective or weak. Worse, the global maritime order has been framed as elite betrayal of true citizens, obscuring its security role. We need to recognise that the maritime order's natural PR deficit renders it vulnerable to uneducated public opinion. Otherwise, man, this interview is so much 'mind=blown'. I came here from her Hudson Institute speech c. 2018.

The rules based world order requires a honest world

Sarah Paine is what you get when you order Janice Stein on Wish.

A hint of TDS... can't take her sweeping assumptions and generalizations too seriously

@ThorIsBoss

Ай бұрын

That was where she lost me as well. Totally discredited herself.

@Rooseveltdunn

Ай бұрын

So any criticism of Trump is TDS for you? She is a professor at the U.S naval college, you are a nobody on KZread but somehow you think you know more 😂.

@ThorIsBoss

Ай бұрын

@@Rooseveltdunn This will be tough for a nobody on KZread like you, and a brainwashed one at that, to understand but she has ZERO to base her assumptions about Trump on and no reason to say it. The fact is, Trump gave Ukraine weapons, Obama did not. Putin would not have dared attack Ukraine while Trump was in office. Biden is weak. The whole word seas it. Putin saw the weakness and acted. She forgot to mention these facts in her baseless ad hominem on Trump.

@ThorIsBoss

Ай бұрын

@@Rooseveltdunn And a dyed in the wool liberal.

@wakyjedi

Ай бұрын

You are a 💯% correct

And may I add, there currently is no other system or alternative to the current system to provide people with at least the same lifestyle, including rights, freedoms and wealth or access to wealth. I get it that it is extremely hard nowadays to access wealth, and that big players are rigging the game, but still, there is no alternative to it.

3:00 - "Imagine if the Russian government wasn't Russian."

Well she should really look up the definition of hegemony, because she described it almost perfectly as Wallerstein does xD Hegemony is not the same as Empire. A Hegemony means that the important states stay independent but there is one state which is the leading economic power. Empire means everybody loses their independence and becomes a vassal to the dominant power. And well, all the states of the center revolve arround Wall Street, because they need that to be the case in order for trade to run smoothly. China wants their own hegemony, Russia wants an Empire with every nation being included into russia (allthough their policy in Africa seems a little more soft for now. I think the biggest problem was letting russia drown in the 90s without giving them a marshall plan. They did the same thing they did to Austria and Germany after world war one and they are surprised that there is a new Hitler in the east?

@tdn4773

Ай бұрын

China is an expansionist imperial power that wants to grow its empire.

@crhu319

Ай бұрын

Yes it's US fault and they're doubling down now with "break up Russia" talk.

@brianmead7556

Ай бұрын

The important difference between Putin and Hitler is Putin doesn’t have a grand plan that revolves around the extermination of everyone who isn’t ethnic Russian!

@LancesArmorStriking

Ай бұрын

Thank you. Paine here seems to have a massive blind spot regarding the end of the USSR and the chaos that followed- pretending like "everyone wanted Russia to be like Europe and just do business". The former Soviet Republics were all preyed upon by US-government-employed economic advisors, whose advice led to state firms being sold for pennies, hyperinflation, and a complete collapse of investment (even compared to Soviet standards). The US communicated very clearly to Russia what it does to countries that it deems too weak to be worthy of respect. Russia simply took that lesson and ran with it. Hence Georgia and Ukraine. Become strong in a conventional sense first, then work on business. You can't foster investments if foreign powers are constantly pushing your leaders to make poor decisions, on account of there being no military consequences (deterrent) for meddling in their domestic affairs. In fact the whole "maritime vs continental" idea is short-sighted: she is correct about which types of countries are on either side of that framework, but she doesn't realize the dynamic that fuels it. Those that have geographic security, and those who don't. All of the maritime powers are states which have geographically stable and protective borders. Australia, New Zealand, Britain- islands. Canada and US: virtually islands, surrounded by sparse lands or oceans. Western Europe: protected by distance and the Northern Plains. Europe was itself continental until coming under the US umbrella. All of these areas are insulated, instilling a natural sense of security. China and Russia are large and much less protected. China was for much of its history until its Pacific coast became a vector for states to use.

@simonmatuschek3609

23 күн бұрын

@@LancesArmorStriking I mostly agree. However there is something of a self fulfilling prophecy called "neo-realism" at play in Russian and somewhat in Chinese geopolitics. Of course those countries were suppressed by the currend hegemony. They could have very well be included without a big problem. I don't buy her story of "Putin could have entered, but chose not to". He actually wanted to be a part of the hegemony at first, but nobody in the west would let Russia be a central part as that would have demised US and German Power. However at the same time Nato was not planning on invading russia and didn't pose that much of a threat. But when Russia interpreted it as a beginning war, all they could plan for and enact was a war strategy, thereby making the war a reality. Don't get me wrong: Natos expansion in eastern Europe was never a part of the deal promised to Russia and the EUs expansion certainly also posed an economic threat to Russia, but this was only excelerated the more Russia became aggressive. So in short there was vicious cicle of misstrust and punishment going on on both sides, leading to the current situation. This however is no justification for starting a war. I still hope for a democratic Russia with free elections and at least proportional representation to keep the peace, but it wont be possible under Putin and it wont be possible if we in the West don't only rebuild Ucraine, but also Russia

Love you work.

Top shelf, and so interesting... she is captivating...

why is this woman not secretary of state?

"Anyone can join the maritime world order, it's win win." Why would the US allow countries as powerful as Russia or China to fully join, have a say in a system they built and control, and challenge the US power over it? Why would European countries want countries much bigger and powerful than they are join said system, and relegating them to irrelevance? Answer: the US and Europeans wouldn't.

@star-gs9kh

Ай бұрын

She's ignorant and talk nonsense.

@timmteller871

Ай бұрын

Russia is not powerful and China was part of it up until the CCP decided to centralize in a socialist system again and is thus now on their way out for very good reasons. China btw did only become powerful because they joined the maritime order.

@markarmage3776

Ай бұрын

@@timmteller871 It's very clear you have no idea what makes a country powerful, buddy. Maritime order just mean trading via sea routes that existed long before the existence of the US or even Britain. Get over yourself, trade via land routes, for example the silk road is a perfectly suitable alternative. What makes a country rich is the production of goods and services. The Chinese are just better at that compared to anyone on Earth.

@timmteller871

Ай бұрын

@@markarmage3776 The Chinese got rich because their switch to economically freemarket oriented institutionalism allowing them to use the potential of their vast resource of cheap labour to produce for western markets/demand. And that trade happened and happens almost exclusivly via sea. The silk road was made immediatly obsolete once trade routes via ship were established and the reasons are identical to why it is inferior today too. A. The costs of shipping are higher due to purely technical reasons. Sea/river need much much less capital to construct and maintain necessary infrastructure and marginal efficiency of ships is much higher then that of trucks/trains (ships can carry alot which is why we have cost degression). B. Lack of internal integration. The silk road routes have to navigate through many instable countries or regions that are not politically aligned or even either enemies of China or each other and thus inherently pose immense security risks which makes transport always risky. Sea routes do only have this problem in limited scale and can be much easier protected with a capable navy. Hence why the maritime based empires always won in history in comparison to the land based empires. Btw the silk road initiative is basically dead right now due to many many reasons alot of which are political. Internal connections via land routs only really work as efficiently in spaces that are politically integrated like the European Union for example.

@paulzikang

Ай бұрын

1. China's explosive economic and political growth was entirely due to their taking part in the Maritime order. China is an export economy, if they don't trade goods, their economy wouldn't have grown and their influence would have eventually diminished. The problem facing China now is their own handling of covid and their instance of remaining within the protection of the Maritime world order but not having those rule of the maritime order apply to them. 2. Russia was also taking part of the "Maritime World Order". How the heck do you think the Russian Oligarchs got so wealthy? Remember the gas pipelines to Europe? The hope was that Russia would get so wealthy from trade that they would willing join the Maritime World Order.

Ukraine wouldn't have been invaded if Trump had been president and I think Trump made it clear he would not have let Puttin do what ever he wanted.

@fatal_error8397

29 күн бұрын

What would Trump have done then?

@phoenixmodellingphotography

28 күн бұрын

​@@fatal_error8397 It wouldn't have happened

@fatal_error8397

27 күн бұрын

@@phoenixmodellingphotography Why not?

@crescent4996

26 күн бұрын

Putin didn't invade anyone during Trump's admin because he was afraid of what Trump might do. Trump threatened we would attack Moscow if Putin tried it. If Trump would have let him take over Ukraine as this woman claims, then why didn't Putin do it then, completely illogical. The world was more at peace than in decades under Trump, it is now in complete flames under Neo-Lib leadership.

@fatal_error8397

26 күн бұрын

@@crescent4996 Hous Reps block all military help to Ukraine now because Trump tells them to. How does that fit into your claim that Trump would have followed a hard line against Putin? It shows exactly the opposite. Putin didn't attack during Trumps reign because Zelensky only became president in Mai 2019 and it took some time for Putin to realize that Zelensky was leading Ukraine away from Russia and could not be stopped by diplomatic means. I would also like you to consider the absolutely devastating effect the American inaction in 2024 has on all American aligned countries around the world. Someting you Americans seem to be completely unaware of.

You’re on point!

All the stuff that NGOs and think tanks say should happen, happens and these people spin these just so stories.

Her Trump comment is perplexing Trump himself reiterated a conversation he had with putin regarding Ukraine. Putin asked him what his reaction would be if he invaded Ukraine, Trump responded by saying he would probably nuke Moscow

@cmleoj

12 күн бұрын

Have you considered Trump just made that conversation up for domestic consumption, ie, he said it to appease people like you?

@yzfool6639

11 күн бұрын

@@cmleoj JTrump doesn't lie to his believers.

@aloodena5196

9 күн бұрын

Pure BS. Trump is like Reek to Putin's Ramsey.

@cmleoj

9 күн бұрын

@@aloodena5196 But with no path to redemption!

Sarah Paine listen to her she gets it.

What about, and don’t bite my head off, I am a moderate, other countries being afraid of how Trump would react. That seems to be leaking out in press outside our country. That unpredictability was his strength. We sure look a lot weaker than we did.

We need to help Ukraine to fight Putin.

Really interesting. I look forward to listening to the whole interview.

yeah american is not a hegemon. its not like they destroyed scores of countries since end of WW2 who tried to get a better deal in the rules based order.

@robertdickson9319

20 күн бұрын

To have "destroyed" a country would mean that the US would have essentially crushed it - like we did with Japan & Germany during WW2. A "score" of things is 20. To have destroyed "scores of countries" would imply at least 40 countries were "destroyed" by the US since WW2. Saying that they tried to get a "better deal in the rules based order" would imply that those countries were already in the rules based order. I'm curious as to what 40+ countries, that were already in the rules based order after WW2, has the US "destroyed"?

@kurtlowder3276

20 күн бұрын

library.uniteddiversity.coop/More_Books_and_Reports/Noam_Chomsky-5_books.pdf@@robertdickson9319

@kurtlowder3276

20 күн бұрын

sorry wrote a long comment and lost it. libya, iraq twice, iran, yemen, somalia, syria,vietnam, laos, cambodia, indonesia, all of the western hemisphere we tried to make a banana republic.@@robertdickson9319