I think I may have a new favourite boat on my wish list. As Toby (might) say, "ticks a lot of boxes". The hull & sheer are stunning, interior looks really well set up. Can't wait for a performance update.

I LOVE this boat. The lines make it look very fast when sitting still. Interior is modern, light and bright. Just LOVE IT!!

Toby rarely disappoints 5 stars

Great forward visibility for the solo sailor when in the galley, looks like a fast boat with clean bright interior.

Great setup and config for a long distance cruiser. She looks like she’d be comfy bobbing around an anchorage or sailing offshore👍

I would love to see it on the water with a bit of a breeze, it looks like fun.

You had me up to the "twin keel" part. Think id be doing a runner over to the J stand and ordering a J45 after that

@wackytheshaggy

Жыл бұрын

RM build the best twin keel yachts. That’s their thing. If you have several meters of tide, it’s a good option.

I’ve sailed the 890. Goes like the clappers. Fantastic fun boats. Looked into buying the 1270 last year. Just be aware the build quality can be a bit patchy.

Love the twin keel option.

Lovely boat, thanks.

Very nice boat

How quick are these boats really, i love to see some footage of it charging along

my opinion only is that long term going to be a lot of repair of wheels and rudders, and 2 more hole's through the hull, a Orca will love those.. I prefer 2 rudders on the stern with tillers and simple autopilot and connection between 2 tillers

Many good features, but can't understand these semi-raised saloon boats without raised seating where you still can't see out. I'd rather have one or the other, low and sleek or a real pilot house / raised saloon.

@TheFosterJourney

Жыл бұрын

I agree. But I was under the impression that you could see forward when standing. 🤷‍♂️

Beautiful design, gorgeous interior. I guess she needs to be sailed with speed to make her movements comfortable. Is she set up to be sailed with speed by a cruising couple, would cruisers not prefer some shelter from wind and waves from behind when not on full speed ? Are the winches to be made electric? How about the anchoring and storage of a dinghy ? Or she not intended for cruising but for racing ?

I wonder what that cast iron grid will look like in 20 years?

@TheFosterJourney

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it'd be shreds of red metal dust. I'm even wondering 5-10 years.

@Panoramix0874

Жыл бұрын

AFAIK the grid is made out of galvanised steel...

@catothecensor

11 ай бұрын

I have an X-35 from 2007 and she has the same cast iron galvanised grid.. still pristine conditions. It is a quite common concept for fast boats.

A modern performance monohul build in plywood? I know, that some gulets (Turkish motor sailors) are build in plywood epoxy or wood and epoxy, so it is solid. Does it not make a rather heavy hull? I love the interior of this boat. My only complaint is the lack of a deck space, where you can be protected from the weather and sun really.

Didn't RM yachts go bankrupt leaving a bunch of customers with several 100's of thousands of dollars in down payments with nothing? Then when Grand Large bought RM they didn't honor those previous down payments and contracts. Instead they jacked up the prices... It is a nice boat though.

She's pretty - how does having equal square footage (main v jib) affect performance? And a plywood hull? Seems to be an outlier for modern boats.

@skaraborgcraft

Жыл бұрын

For a given weight, plywood is stronger than steel. Split sail area can be better for balance than having 130% of the mainsail area on a rolled genoa.

@PN_48

Жыл бұрын

It’s no different to a balsa core. Ply epoxy boats have multiple coats of glass internally and externally, so are very watertight.

@skaraborgcraft

Жыл бұрын

@@PN_48 Far, far superior to a balsa core, needs no reinforcement put in for deck hardware, even though this boat has a glass deck. Sheathing is only needed for surface protection, the glass up schedule is not "strucural" like a typical "core" boat, or the boat will lose the benefit of the plywood construction and actually be heavier.

@PN_48

Жыл бұрын

@@skaraborgcraft Oh absolutely! My point was that ply/epoxy boats get a bad rap when actually they’re no different (from a water ingress perspective) than a standard GRP boat. For my sins, I’m on my second ply/epoxy boat and far prefer them to GRP. Lightweight, strong and the ply provides an element of sound deadening.

Did I understand correct RM 1380 has hull grp ply core but solid grp deck? If so why?

@wackytheshaggy

Жыл бұрын

No, it’s a wooden hull. No grp Deck is foam grp sandwich. Gives a light stiff boat.

❤ love it! But...why cast iron? 😢 It's going to rust to shreds asap. I'd think aluminum grid and lead ballast would do the job.

@Panoramix0874

Жыл бұрын

it is not cast iron but galvanised steel...

@TheFosterJourney

Жыл бұрын

@@Panoramix0874 That's a step better. The video said cast iron. But still, galvanized steel rusts just as much. Is it really the material to use for 10, 20, or 30 years down the road? Or do they expect the boats to be thrown away in a decade? If so, they should definitely market them as disposable to help buyers have apples to apples comparisons with boats built to last.

@Panoramix0874

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFosterJourney Not convinced that aluminium is such a great choice for a piece that is going to be in contact with steel keel bolts (galvanic corrosion) and will be subject to cycle loading! Steel is ductile and galvanisation will protect it. These boats are definitely not disposable, plywood boats built in the 60s with lesser resins are outlasting GRP boats which tend to eventually delaminate! Here in France 30 years old RM are still selling at a premium... if all grids were rusted, they would be going for peanuts!

@catothecensor

11 ай бұрын

I have an X-35 from 2007 and she has the same cast iron galvanised grid.. still pristine conditions. It is a quite common concept for fast boats. Aluminium CAN'T touch the steel bolts of the keel, as the steel would dissolve it.

Perfect

@c.a.mcneil7599

Жыл бұрын

Weight?

@jeremyparsons5379

Жыл бұрын

@@c.a.mcneil7599 well yes I could do with losing a pound or two

This or a JPK 45 ? - I still think the JPK edges it slightly.

@dgib1694

Жыл бұрын

The JPK can sleep 8m but it weight 9.5 tons. I wonder how light is this one?

@dgib1694

Жыл бұрын

I checked, it's about the same as the JPK, 9.8 tons

@ukpitts

Жыл бұрын

@@dgib1694 - interesting - I think the JPK would be the better ‘all rounder’ & very much more comfortable offshore, although the RM does have a much more wife freindly / boat show seductive interior !

Why are the wheels so far back? Seems dangerously unsafe and uncomfortable to me. It’s not a race Imoca. So why be something it’s not?

I went cruising for a few years and crossed the Atlantic in a 42 year old plywood boat, as that was the only thing i could afford. Half a million Euros is a different market. Wheres the sub 30ft plywood boats? Yeah, no money in it........

What’s the point of a fast cruiser, cruising is not about speed it’s about enjoying the journey, if you want to get there fast buy a performance yacht, on saying that it looks like a good boat especially the twin keel version

Does the hull have designed in wavyness or is that just a construction method artifact? Probably need sunglasses on while in the interior.

Now why can't they do hulls that clean in aluminum?

@angela1984a

Жыл бұрын

I guess someone could if you paid them enough...

This would be a great coastal cruiser but I would not call it a blue water boat by any means.

i was there and i could not figure out which was more beautiful ,the girl with the curly hair host the boat or the boat :)

I hate the helm almost at the end of the boat and water right behind me

no handholds inside, refrigerator drawers... I think it'd be a stretch to call it a bluewater sailing yacht.

maybe in Alu. But in plywood? No way.

the polish is excellent, but the body is crooked, ironed and in a hurry

Last I read about RM they went bankrupt and left some people with a half built boat and without their money.

@bruceklein9008

Жыл бұрын

interestingsailboats.blogspot.com/2020/03/rm-yachts-bankruptcy-and-shameful.html

This is definitely not a ocean crossing boat.

@skaraborgcraft

Жыл бұрын

I sailed a 42 year old 25ft plywood boat across the Atlantic, and people like you had the same opinion.......wrong.

@spahrticis5755

Жыл бұрын

@@skaraborgcraft I’m sure that 42 year old boat was built much better

@skaraborgcraft

Жыл бұрын

@@spahrticis5755 Not really, no epoxy resin encapsulation or sheathing. RM are well engineered. I think open transom boats are dumb though.

@PN_48

Жыл бұрын

@Spahrticis Because??? LWL - good for ocean crossing. Cockpit setup - good for ocean crossing. Strong ply hull - good for ocean crossing.

@Panoramix0874

Жыл бұрын

Why not ? Lot of RMs have crossed oceans...

Nice niche concept, but too expensive, and cast iron in the bilge creates irreversible corrosion problems. It is a pain in the neck trying to ineffectively treat it after about 10 years or less.

@catothecensor

11 ай бұрын

I have an X-35 from 2007 and she has the same cast iron galvanised grid.. still pristine conditions. It is a quite common concept for fast boats.