A new way to look at disc golf Flight numbers | Disc golf lessons

In this video I am going to try to help give you an idea of how the last two numbers in the flight numbers affect the disc flght. This will not be a perfectly accurate scientific method, but it will help you be able to visualize the angle needed to shape your shots more easily. Just trying to help anyone who gets confused by the numbers.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:44 Studio: helping visualize the numbers
01:32 Throwing a -2 turn disc
07:32 Throwing with flight tracking
09:43 Look at where they land
10:22 Counteract the stability with angles
12:02 Uplink on hyzer and then hyzer flip example
13:30 Bonus footage and some babbling :D
14:29 Room for flex shots vs hyzer flip
15:39 Throwing a few more shots
18:16 Studio: wrap up
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  • @dcus55
    @dcus55 Жыл бұрын

    Well done, wish I’d had someone explain turn and fade like this when I started!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching, glad it makes sense.

  • @myke0287
    @myke0287Ай бұрын

    So im new to this. Ive seen hundreds of videos on disc golf. This is by far the most informative and easiest to understand when it comes to numbers. THANK YOU!!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for saying that!

  • @zoskinso3420
    @zoskinso3420 Жыл бұрын

    Equating the flight numbers to angles. Brilliant! Very useful. Thanks.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the kind words! Thanks

  • @elgilberto4506
    @elgilberto4506 Жыл бұрын

    WTF?!? I've never had someone explain this so simply. It's 2am and I have my bag out figuring all kinds of new flight patterns I never thought of. Thank you so much and great advice to end your video with.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    First off... go to bed! :D I am so glad this is helping! Thank you for watching!

  • @sunnyside832
    @sunnyside832 Жыл бұрын

    Great way of explaining the numbers. Makes a lot more sense now.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    So glad it helps

  • @Haganbodkins
    @Haganbodkins6 ай бұрын

    It has taken me a good 2 years to understand Stability and flight numbers, and I believe this just changed everything for me. Thank you so much for this!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    6 ай бұрын

    I really hope it helps!

  • @dgshivler
    @dgshivler5 ай бұрын

    This is a great way to think about flight numbers. I'll be playing with the angles on my next field practice.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    5 ай бұрын

    so glad you like it!

  • @magnusgranlund3138
    @magnusgranlund3138 Жыл бұрын

    Verry nice vid for new players or players like Simon that never cared about flight numbers and now needs them when they have to change the comlete bag!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    That was both an encouraging comment and a nice little zinger at Simon. :D Made me laugh. thanks

  • @MatthewRogers13
    @MatthewRogers132 ай бұрын

    I'm really loving these videos!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad! Thanks!

  • @jrswo1337
    @jrswo1337 Жыл бұрын

    I needed this so much, such an underrated video. Earned my sub, this guy can teach.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    I am so glad this helped! Thank you for the kind words… just remember to be gracious when I say something stupid in the future! Thanks for watching!

  • @jrswo1337

    @jrswo1337

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ogdiscgolfer No judgement from my side! I’m all ears to improve at this game and a word slip up or two doesn’t change how impactful your knowledge is! Already binged a good bit of videos haha

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jrswo1337 That is great… if you can remember that most of the time I am being both sarcastic and smiling while typing, then you will understand my heart. I just want folks to get better and overcome the mental, physical and emotional blocks that can beat us up. Thanks

  • @jrswo1337

    @jrswo1337

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ogdiscgolfer love how genuine you consistently are, a true mentor with solid morals.. we love the sense of humor! It’s all lighthearted and a part of any competitive sport, all love for your Chanel and content Pete ❤️

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks... I just figured out a new setting on KZread to see a slew of comments I missed. I appreciate your encouragement and I am sorry for the delay in seeing this! Take care!

  • @chainedoutdiscgolf7985
    @chainedoutdiscgolf7985 Жыл бұрын

    Recently discovered your channel. Loving the content! Great video, very informative

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much! Just trying to give back to the sport I love! :D

  • @aurejones9546
    @aurejones95463 ай бұрын

    Greta Video! That really helped to understand how to use these numbers work. Thanks.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @inthekitchenwithdane
    @inthekitchenwithdane Жыл бұрын

    This is the best way anyone has ever explained flight numbers to me. Thank you. ⛳ - 🏃‍♂️

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    First off… bonus points for disc golf dude avatar in the comments. Secondly, I am so glad that helps. Different brains pick up things differently and it looks like you have a brain similar to mine… and that could be a scary proposition. :D Thanks so much for the kind words.

  • @smc9108
    @smc9108 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video my man👍 definitely makes more sense to me now!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    So glad this helps! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

  • @voncorndog8942
    @voncorndog8942 Жыл бұрын

    Some of the best advice you can get about disc golf. Well done!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for that comment!

  • @FarsansTorraOrdvitsar
    @FarsansTorraOrdvitsar28 күн бұрын

    Thanks alot for the explanations!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    27 күн бұрын

    My pleasure! Glad it was helpful

  • @maxmotors9497
    @maxmotors9497 Жыл бұрын

    This might really help my dad understand flight numbers more, thanks!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped! Thanks for watching

  • @SquirtHoliday
    @SquirtHoliday Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation. I feel like all beginners should watch this.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so! I really appreciate you saying that! thanks

  • @patrickgriffith303
    @patrickgriffith303 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! Thanks for the information!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    You bet! So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!

  • @a.mielbye
    @a.mielbye Жыл бұрын

    glad I found your channel! good insight with the flight #s and angles, and your consistent throws really showed the difference between the discs. You also have a bit of the Bob Ross vibe going on which is great! thx for the vid

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok, you get the LOL response from me with the Bob Ross comment. I have a full sized stand up poster of Bob right here in my office. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Happy Little Trees!

  • @diverdown81
    @diverdown81 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Best description of the angles and flips I have seen. I feel like I actually understand now.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to let me know this helped!

  • @dougieefreshiee
    @dougieefreshiee Жыл бұрын

    This is great!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like it! Thanks for watching.

  • @soeunyuos8403
    @soeunyuos8403 Жыл бұрын

    Recently discovered your channel, great content !!!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @stefandomagalski3722
    @stefandomagalski37226 ай бұрын

    This is the best explanation I've heard so far on how to hyzer flip a disc. I can't wait to try out this information tomorrow with my Uplink and Genius!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    6 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Hope it works for you!

  • @KarmicPatina
    @KarmicPatina Жыл бұрын

    Great content. I like your style.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much I never really knew I had a style :-) my kids might argue with you over that one :-) appreciate you watching

  • @coolbananaboy5075
    @coolbananaboy5075 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching

  • @randallkornholio2971
    @randallkornholio2971 Жыл бұрын

    This is good information if you are just starting, also the first number, the speed, cal almost be thought of a minimum speed, of you can't throw that speed, you will only experience the tail end of the flight characteristics, meaning the turn before the fade will be smaller to non-existent.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! To be honest I wish the numbers were speed, turn, glide then fade to more closely represent the flight action… but hey things are much better than the old days before numbers. :D thanks for watching and taking time to comment.

  • @taylorbrown5764
    @taylorbrown5764 Жыл бұрын

    great information

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching and the comment

  • @plugprod
    @plugprod Жыл бұрын

    I love this. Thx and subbed.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @DiscVik
    @DiscVik Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff Pete!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching.

  • @andyfessler8992
    @andyfessler8992 Жыл бұрын

    Great job

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time to comment… I appreciate it.

  • @lecosmique
    @lecosmique Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I really liked your approach to explaining this. Subscribed!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you! I really appreciate it!

  • @LilColDog
    @LilColDog Жыл бұрын

    Nice work brotha!

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words. Peace.

  • @VictorVictor-nq4bz
    @VictorVictor-nq4bz22 күн бұрын

    Hi Pete,im Victor from Moldova

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    22 күн бұрын

    Great meeting you today!

  • @VictorVictor-nq4bz

    @VictorVictor-nq4bz

    22 күн бұрын

    @@ogdiscgolfer me too

  • @BillionFires
    @BillionFires5 ай бұрын

    I've been thinking about another reason Hyzer shots tend to be more accurate. They are somewhat self-correcting. If you hit your line, then great. If you release a bit late, the throw will be too far right (for a right-handed backhand shot). But it will ALSO be higher than intended (since a Hyzer swing plane isn't flat). The extra height will help to counteract the pull to the right, with the disc having more time to get back to the intended target. The later the release, the higher the shot will be, helping to correct for the error. Just don't release early, as there is no self-correction there! 😆

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    5 ай бұрын

    You are spot on... unless the tree on the early side decides to help out! Thanks

  • @barryfischer8608
    @barryfischer8608 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent description of the numbers - I like to add weight into the description of flight. How a heavier Uplink vs 5/8gms lighter. I carry 3 different Reactors - diff weights for different shape shots. Again - You did a super job of describing turn and fade - those last VITAL numbers. #706

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! Yes weight is another factor that could be a video all by itself… I always threw max weight for most of my time, and am having to expand my horizons with lighter discs and how to cycle those into the bag. Thanks again for watching.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    P.S. great number! Honored you took time to watch. :D

  • @mitchbguitars3433
    @mitchbguitars34337 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this video. I use it for memory lol Cause I always forget the dang minus turn which way it goes. Eventhough I know it I always forget it lol

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    7 ай бұрын

    I totally get it... I can't unscrew anything without saying righty tighty - lefty loosey! How can our brains remember such useless stuff and forget the essentials! Thanks for watching!

  • @mitchbguitars3433

    @mitchbguitars3433

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ogdiscgolfer 🤣🤣🤣so true 😉👍🏼

  • @A.Snipes
    @A.Snipes Жыл бұрын

    This is the exact way I tell people. You can make any disc go straight by basically putting the opposite angle of its stability.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad this makes sense! Thanks for watching

  • @ChristopherMurphy1
    @ChristopherMurphy1 Жыл бұрын

    Been throwing 20 years and this finally clicked.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    I am so glad... to be honest, I never really thought about flight numbers much until last year, so I get it. Of course back in the day it was easier...Aviar, Roc... Viper. :D Thanks for watching!

  • @micahsouder4729
    @micahsouder4729 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid but wind is also a big factor when considering angles

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Very true! But trying to add wind to the beginning equation for folks getting into the game would add a layer of complexity that could overwhelm and need another longer video to deal with. And I already talk too much! :D Thanks so much for watching.

  • @user-lt3df8ss4x
    @user-lt3df8ss4x2 ай бұрын

    the basic scribble drawings help more than anything during the explanation. For example the word Flippy, that always throws me off. A disc has the option of being able to flip two different directions but everyone uses the work as if it's understood easily which direction is being implied... It gives me fits when others I play with use the word. Is a "flippy disc" considered a disc that flips up from Hyzer to flat or from Anhyzer to flat or both?

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    2 ай бұрын

    Great question! That is the struggle when being involved with something for a while, we tend to take words for granted. I try to remember that when I do my videos... but I forget often. I don't know the full scientific reason behind the word flippy... but most of the guys who played disc golf back in the day were pretty mellow and made up terms that just kind of stuck. You can think of flippy as reacting opposite of fade or fighting hyzer... it is tied into being understable or wanting to turn. If I throw a right handed backhand, the disc is spinning clockwise and will always try to fade or finish to the left. The "flippiness" or understability of a disc is usually represented by the third number as a negative: -1= slight flip, -2= a little more flip, -3= more flip, -5 is probably a roller... if you throw it fast enough. Most folks don't realize when learning the game that speed matters when we talk about flipping a disc. A slower speed thrower may have a flippy disc not flip much at all, because it needs speed/spin to counteract fade. For example: If I throw my flippy Valkyrie (it has hit a lot of trees) at say 35mph, you won't think it is flippy because it hasn't reached enough speed/spin that causes it to turn or flip and it will fly straight and fade left at the end... its flight would look very similar to a teebird at that speed. But, if I throw the same disc at 50mph it will start to turn and maybe even look like it wants to become a roller and it will fly more like a Road Runner. (A stable or overstable disc can become "flippy" if they get beat up enough.) What make it confusing is when someone like Calvin will throw a very overstable disc so hard and fast that it will flip up to flat, but that disc would never be considered flippy... unless you are a cyborg like Calvin. :D If a regular person threw that disc, it would be so "beefy" (overstable) that it would crash hard to the ground fading right. So Calvin's idea of a flippy disc and a mere mortal's idea of flippy are very different due to how we throw. (may be too much info... sorry!) So a real flippy disc is one that even if you throw it will a lot of hyzer will flip over to flat and if it is "flippy" enough turn into a roller. It is not flippy if it goes from Anhyzer to flat... that is fade... doing what the disc naturally wants to do with that direction of spin. Let me know if that makes sense. A lot of these terms came about when all we had were DX (base) plastic which meant that sometimes it only took a couple of good tree hits for that overstable disc (wants to fade hard) to turn into a flippy disc (understable). We would say "Dang it! That new Viper just turned "flippy!" It happened quickly due to the less durable plastic and also because the speed threshhold was much lower on those discs (We thought 5 speed discs were so fast! :D). It is also why older players like Michael Johansen and James Conrad are used to playing mainly backhand shots and throwing flip hyzer shots. DX plastic got beat up so quick and didn't handle the torque resistance to handle the pressure that forehands put on the disc, so it made more sense to learn to play with more understable discs because they lasted longer. (The good news was that most discs will only beat up to a certain level and not keep getting beat up forever, but that level tends to be on the understable side. But when they settle down they stay predictable for a long time... that is why you see the older players with 10 year old rocs etc... they have beat in to a sweet level and now stay true to that flippiness.) Sorry, once again, probably too much random info. Let me know if I helped out at all. :D

  • @dougtowery5889
    @dougtowery5889 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I think most people understand but could be confusing to some people how in your visual of showing turn at 2:10 you have the disc angled right side down. (From viewers angle) but then when u explain the uplinks turn @ 3:15 You show it the opposite way.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for that... yes I tried to make sure that when I explained an angle I either pushed the disc towards the camera or pulled it towards myself to represent the flight direction. Not a perfect system, especially since I tend to talk a lot, but I am hoping my audience is smart enough to pick up the difference. I will definitely keep that in mind and work on it in future videos... but no promises because... oh look a Squirrel! :D

  • @Dopey313
    @Dopey313 Жыл бұрын

    Kind of makes me curious as to how beating in a disc effects these numbers. i.e. does a beat in disc have a higher turn or less fade Similar with different plastics. Does a premium plastic make a disc more over stable because it gives less turn or does it give more fade.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    I think someone did a video on that somewhere... I will try to find it if I remember. As for beating the discs, I think some of it comes down to how it changes the parting line, but also the rougher surface affects the air flow sort of like the dimples on a golf ball???? So I think it affects the turn more which will have a lingering affect on the fade... of course I could be lying and just making all this up. :D As for plastics, I think it is more about the parting line being higher in the cooling process with certain plastics, but it could also just be magic. :D I know enough to pretend I know more, but you really shouldn't listen to me. :D Thank you for watching.

  • @wilfredoriverajr.
    @wilfredoriverajr. Жыл бұрын

    what direction?

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    I tried to be consistent when showing the flights, but if you will see if I am pulling the disc towards my body, that would represent the disc being thrown from your perspective, and if I am pushing the disc forward, it would represent being thrown from my perspective. I hope that helps.

  • @brianb6969
    @brianb6969 Жыл бұрын

    Everything comes out of My Hand comes out with some Hyzer..... I Wish I knew how to Throw Flat like Simon..

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    My default miss is always hyzer so I completely understand... I think we all wish we threw like Simon :D thanks for watching

  • @jeffasmi11
    @jeffasmi11 Жыл бұрын

    I can't tell if you're turning right or left.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    I know it gets a little confusing a couple of times, if you will watch whether I pull the disc away from the camera - that means you are throwing, if I push to the camera - I am throwing. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.

  • @davejoseph5615
    @davejoseph561511 ай бұрын

    It looks like a soccer field is a better place to learn disc golf than going to a disc golf course.

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    11 ай бұрын

    A field can be a great place to learn and work on form. You just have to time it right during soccer season. :D I think of it like a driving range for golf. Thanks for watching!

  • @Corrigan65_
    @Corrigan65_ Жыл бұрын

    I bought the glitch with the hope that it would fly like a frisby. It failed, I know how a frisby flies and it doesn't pull it off. The unicorn doesn't exist yet

  • @ogdiscgolfer

    @ogdiscgolfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, the Glitch is a good disc, just not the one disc to rule them all. :D thanks for watching!