Really interested, but these guys take "champagne taste on a beer budget" to a whole new level. I know it is new, & cost drops per can in bulk, but $49 for a sixer is nuts! I could do ketogenic coke for that price. IT is a great idea, & I would love to try it, but as someone who loves to brew I drink for the flavor, & social aspects vs the buzz. I think for all those White Claw Crossfitters this will be a huge hit. I look forward to the day I can find it locally, & at a more reasonable price.

@mrnt1257

2 жыл бұрын

I pay more for a healthy energy drink. When it comes to health, that’s different than spending on something just for the taste, etc. I don’t carry a designer purse and never will, but I spend a lot on what I ingest.

@threestans9096

2 жыл бұрын

okay so, walmart has BHB PILLS about 800mg a serving for $20. i don’t know dosing on this stuff or anything, so take it with a. grain of salt. HOWEVER, for $20 you can test it out and see if BHB even works how you would like. Ima do some research, see if i can point you guys to a place to buy bulk powder. Finding weird chems online is sorta a hobby

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Larry, Frank here, CEO Hard Ketones. I realize it is pricey. Even though we charge a token $4 for shipping, the actual shipping price is up to $25 per 6 pack order. This is Fedex rates including 21 and over signature fees. So half of that price is shipping. That is why the larger orders are better on a per can price. Also this drink is actually half the cost of our other drinks, on a cost per gram of ketones. That stuff is used by 80% of the Tour De France teams. And taking coke won't mimic a 3 day fast in 15 minutes! Ha! Thanks for your comment! (DM me)

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@@threestans9096 This has very little to do with racemic ketone salt pills. Virtually nothing except the word "ketone" in it. This drink is an alcohol. The pills are ketone salts and a complete waste of money. So they are actually more expensive on a cost per value basis. Appreciate the comment! Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@Ultrajamz

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones really hope you guys can strike a deal with one or more of the big liquor chains or supermarkets. I feel like Target stores would love this since they already carry some health stuff

Just ordered a 6 pack... Thank u for the code, it saved me a stack of cash on shipping to Alaska!!

I am a videographer and a DEVOTED follower of your channel, I am loving the slider! Taking the production to whole other level... I see you Mike!

Now THIS is the info I've been waiting for haha. Very interesting. Gonna look into it.

Fantastic! I am in Ketosis and just tried one. I am happier, nicer, feel and little drunk but better(hard to explain) and have this Amazing Hyperfocus!I am sold. Thanks for the code and the good info!

Great to know! For those that don't drink very often and are super careful about what they want to put in their bodies, it might be worth the extra money now and then. For those of us that get bad hangovers, it's worth a lot to not feel horrible the next day!

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

And you might find that you will consume 50 to 75% less because it gives a more "full" feeling. So in the end it may cost about the same. And skip dinner and you will be ahead! Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Its still a refined product which will deplete vitamin storages in the body. Metabolism of anything requires nutrients and if they dont come with them then the body will use the stored nutrients. Hangovers are caused by the depletion of the same nutrients.

Do you have any links to studies that actually show it works like ethanol? The first link just shows its conversion into ketone bodies and the second link is just an abstract with a paper behind a paywall that talks about the effects when injected into the blood stream which bypasses the liver

Just ordered 1 can, glad to give a new company a chance with potentially a lifechanging product

@AnnaPinguin

2 жыл бұрын

HOW IS THE TASTE>>??? LIKE A BEER?? WINE??

@usmclongrangebrainsurgeon

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnnaPinguin just ordered it yesterday, don't imagine it will be here until next week

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@@usmclongrangebrainsurgeon We are trying to get it out ASAP. Our warehouse was hit by the ice storm last week, so it is slowed everything down. The goal is to taste like a cross between a flavored seltzer and a hard seltzer. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@kiachris76712

2 жыл бұрын

Oh it can be life changing for the consumers too. Wait and see won't be around long.

But what does it taste like? My immediate thought would be to make a product from a robustly flavoured red wine from which the ethanol has been removed, but maybe the taste of the 1,3,butanediol would ruin it. Mind you, when you consider the odd flavours of Retsina, or Georgian wines made in clay vessels, then maybe one could get used to it.

@shiftgood

2 жыл бұрын

It’s… ok. Kind of like a white claw. Much better when ice cold for sure.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

The problems with wine is the sugar, so sugar counteracts the benefits of ketones. Now, you can put in sucralose and artificial sweeteners, and it tastes super sweet, but we decided to stick with Monk fruit and Stevia. The goal was to be as little sweet as possible, like a flavored seltzer water. Thanks for commenting Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@pjkkerr

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones I'm on keto because I have Parkinson's, but I do allow myself 100ml of red wine a day as an indulgence: 3g of carbs, but all those nice polyphenols. The thing I do worry about is the inflamatory effect of the ethanol, since I otherwise steer clear of foods that might lead to inflamation. So a red wine with 1,3-butanediol replacing the ethanol would certainly suit me. Anyway, early days yet. Who knows how big this will get in future!

I’ve been drinking this for a couple of months. I’m a seasoned drinker ( 45 years ) and in my opinion, it’s ok. Just ok. The buzz is quite different than a regular alcohol drink. It has a very chemically smell and taste …. So I drown it with tons of ginger ale. I also couple it with a small dose CBD. It does the job for me. Once in a big while I crave the regular alcohol buzz and I have a few regular drinks. I don’t mix this stuff with regular alcohol.

Thanks Mike, I'm always looking for a healthier alternative to things like drinks and desserts.

This is very fascinating! I just placed an order. I wonder how long before they can get distribution to local stores.

@ladyesther

2 жыл бұрын

Okay, for my first taste test I didn't like it. I mean it tastes like a seltzer and the flavor is fruity and mild but it is definitely different that regular alcoholic beverages. I did not notice that much relaxation on my first try. But this evening as I skipped dinner and consumed one can I can definitely report back that it is very relaxing and calming. Maybe I will update this later again. I also went to the website and watched the video of that guy explaining the product. So I started to under a little bit better. It's very technical or scientific language. I just started keto so this is a strong factor when you don't want to get bumped out of ketosis.

What's its impact on the liver?

Great review, with one question-- you mentioned ethanol receptors. Do you mean similar or the same receptors? GABA receptors? I don't believe we have ethanol receptors. Much love and respect, thank you.

Hi guys, is it OK to work out from home, if your are recovering either from covid or the Flu? I'm asking if this is helpful or not because I only have body pain, similar to a hard work with weighs or high intensity training? ( I do 1 hour from Monday to Friday) Thanks for your help

I'm going to try this. I gave up all alcohol when Covid hit 2 years ago.

@Highintensityhealth

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you!!

I use it as a humectant in my serums as a replacement to other glycols

So yet another Star Trek technology 'art'--Synthehol--introduced into our real lives! Hmm, will a food replicator or warp drive be next?

@Jtbecool

2 жыл бұрын

Food Replicator is a fruit tree but unfortunately space is fake. No warp drives.

@cylon5741

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jtbecool Space is fake? Wow! What, pray tell, is on behind the false stars?

@skaterkraines2691

2 жыл бұрын

@@cylon5741 25000 years to fly to our closest star neighbor. Sounds pretty fake to me. Pray for worm holes.

@cylon5741

2 жыл бұрын

@@skaterkraines2691 Jtbecool wrote the "space is fake." Sounds like Flat Earth stuff: so what's behind the fake stars? Also, 300 years ago, travelling from London to Japan would have taken months. Flying from New York to London in a few hours would also have been unimaginable.

@skaterkraines2691

2 жыл бұрын

@@cylon5741 I just recalculated our nearest stellar neighbor of 4.2 light years and at 50,000 miles per hour it would take 57,077 years to travel there from Earth. 4.2 light years is 2.5x10e13 miles and divided by 50000 is 500,000,000 hours or 57,077 years. Like I said, pray for worm holes or humans are never leaving our solar system. I hope that is not too devastating for you.

Thanks for the heads up.

Does anyone know where i can get the active ingredient ?

Woah, this is awesome!! I don’t drink because of its negative affect on protein synthesis, so this sounds exciting! My girlfriend drinks so I wonder if she would give it a try. Really interested to see where this goes!

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@ElJake I also "don't drink" because it wrecks me. But I have changed it to "I don't drink ethanol". Because it is the ethanol that does the wrecking. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Awesome into just ordered some! Also I passed on this into to my father who owns a liquor store in Tennessee and he's super interested.

@Highintensityhealth

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea! I'm sure Frank will be all about it!

@invisablestatic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Highintensityhealth Just got my first batch of R 1,3 and its great. I don't drink that often but when I do ill be switching to this! Thanks!

i remember an amy berger video where i thought she cited a study, in certain contexts alcohol can increase ketones.

If you drink 1,3-butanediol in excess, can you black out from it?

as others have already said - 1,4 butanediol becomes GBL(which is a derivative of GHB) when ingested. aside from ALL the things that means(lol), i'm pretty sure you dont want to mix a cpl of these with a cpl of beers..our livers REALLY dont like mixing the two.. VERY interesting product, thats for sure!

@Highintensityhealth

2 жыл бұрын

1,3 is different than 1,4!

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@TimSim, as Mike said, 1,3 and 1,4 only have their proximity in numbers in common. This makes BHB not GHB. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@natalieerickson5519

Жыл бұрын

First, Mr. Unrealized Profits - thanks for looking out. Seriously. 🙏 to High Intensity Health and Frank, the CEO - God bless you for sharing, and creating this, respectively. I'm neurodivergent and have comorbidities that are highly exacerbated by alcohol - I grew up in Reno and now live in Vegas....alcohol is a massive centerpiece (and catalyst for destruction) and nearly every party, and I'm quite over it. What you have shared today is utterly world-changing - I'll be excited to try, and to share. Prayers for everyone's every happiness, healing and success.

@mothnflame1221

Жыл бұрын

​@@Highintensityhealth I'd be curious to try them side by side to see the difference. 1 4 gets a bad wrap since it's converted into GHB. GHB gets a bad wrap because its a date rape drug. But everything you said about this drink could also be said about GHB. "It's like alcohol without any of the side effetcs"

@High Intensity Health I've always wondered if being keto and fasting alot would affect breathalyzer test should I ever get pulled over. Do I need to refuse it? (Day 9 of 10 day fast)

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Fasting and high ketones won't show up on a ethanol based (all of them) breahalyzer. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Bit too pricey for me but hope it catches on so I can get it at local stores

@Highintensityhealth

2 жыл бұрын

Me too! That’s why I’m sharing it. With more volume and economies of scale I’d imagine the price will come down

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@Ultra, have the cost of the 6 pack is the Fedex shipping and 21 signature, at the larger sizes we get closer to $5 a can and if you use it to skip a meal or you take only 1 or 2 versus several other ethanol alternatives, you may find yourself ahead. Consider the 1 can trial (we lose $10 on each of those orders, ha!) Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@Ultrajamz

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones question: how does this product interact with breathalyzer? Edit: I just want to be sure drinking one or two cans wont result in a falsely high reading

Gonna give it a try. One six pack ordered

How does this relate to 1,4 butenediol? Which will knock you out and is related to GHB, and GLB? Wondering about its effect on dopamine receptors, downregulation, addiction, etc.

@KimcheeOnATaco

2 жыл бұрын

I'm also wondering about the effect on the liver compared with regular alcohol.

@henrytang2203

2 жыл бұрын

If you've studied organic chemistry; you'll know that 1,3-butanediol can be oxidised twice (by 2 oxygen atoms) to form Beta-hydroxybutyric acid; which is a 'ketone body fuel' our bodies produce and use. The chemistry is sound, the only question mark is the biochemistry. Our bodies always do things the complicated way with enzymes and intermediate molecules. Could have unexpected effects. 1,4-butanediol is likely to be treated differently by the body. Moving the -OH group one carbon atom across can have a huge effect.

@threestans9096

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrytang2203 it’s in the leucine metabolic pathway or whatever, and makes metabolites that occur during GHB metabolism. But it’s looking like any GHB relation is not very strong.. But I think that’s not totally correct, i need to dig more

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@s6y9l 1,3 bdo has nothing to do with 1,4 bdo. Completely different. Do not drink 1,4 please. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

In Australia we don't get much. The closest we have is still ethanol based even though it has less than 7g of carbs and sugar (pure blonde beer).

@Jammie75

2 жыл бұрын

Big head beer is 0 carbs. Very hoppy though

You read so many minds 🥂😎👍

Ethanol hits a bunch of different GABA a receptors. we haven’t even seen what specific subtypes or where on the receptor this compound binds, so I wouldn’t say that it is exactly the same, it could bind to any number of different allosteric binding pockets for the gaba a receptor, all of them having their own different and unique affects and properties. Also ethanol antagonizes Nmda activity and various other receptors besides working on gaba a. Although I’m assuming you’re talking about gaba a allosteric modulation when you talk about the “alcohol receptor”. Ethanol is a very “dirty” drug meaning it has many other aspects of his pharmacology besides Gaba a allosteric modulation. In fact even at the gabba receptor it modulates it in like three different places. And each of those places does a different thing. And each of those places also has specific sub types that do different things! It’s complicated shit bro. Also saying that this thing doesn’t have the same side effects is not something you should be saying at this point. The reason is that although I think this substance is probably worth researching for the normal public we don’t know much about it yet, from what I understand many users of this do report headaches! Acidosis is also something that is very possible! Probably more likely than with ethanol. This drug might even be more dangerous for some people because of its conversion to ketones. And if you know anything about ketones you should know what keto acidosis is.

My typical HR while asleep is 50-55. After drinking alcohol my HR does not fall below 70 and may stay as high as 80-90 through the night. I cant say exactly what’s happening there, but I can say it’s not good. Only quality sleep nearly a day later can alleviate my hangover.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Love to see the data after taking R 1,3. Many report better sleep. Better than even no alcohol. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

can this be tested in breathalyzer? since, its not ethanol.

Interested. Potassium sorbate preservative though... what are your thoughts on it? I avoid it along with sodium benzoate and sodium metabisulfate, etc. All 3 of those happen to be on the Whole Foods Unacceptable Ingredients list. I've found most of the N/A alternatives are using these preservatives since there is no ethanol. I would think they could control through pH or HPP (not sure if HPP can do cans).

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@Chris I hear you. Maybe one day we can remove it, but much more testing would be needed to see if it R 1,3 bd kills stuff the same way ethanol does. I didn't know whole foods banned it. Interesting. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@christophermckellar

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketonesFrank! Thank you for the reply. Would love to discuss further. I'm in the food & product development space and very much tuned into the world of metabolic health. DM me if you want to chat!

@KetoneAid

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophermckellar I don't know how to DM you. No contact info on KZread and nothing under your name under IG

Is it OK with liver.

Does it have the same damaging effects as regular alcohol?

@shiftgood

2 жыл бұрын

No

I see that it is half of a ketone Ester! Who knew drinking beer would be the key to defeating covid once and for all lol I've watched your podcast where the person you were interviewing was discussing how ketone esters and the benefits on our cells to battle covid successfully?

I wonder if this compound could be added to alcohol free wine, beer, whiskey and gins!! That would be AWESOME!!!!!

Looks like a really cool product. If it's complete safe and mimics ethanol, it would definitely be a game changer. What's the safety profile on 1,3-butanediol; and how is it metabolised?

@shawnmclean7707

2 жыл бұрын

An introduction to a new combination of molecules that we have not adapted to. This is the same as vaping vs cigarettes. The only difference is that one is observed and shown to be bad while the other has not yet been observed for that duration. These people cannot sincerely make these claims that one is better. This is how we got here in the first place, introduction of new variables. But the world is based on consumerism, people will always try to sell you something. Listen carefully to how he talks and you'll see him contradicting everything he tries to preach from this simple statement "This is a new product". I would try one though, for the reason that I was already putting a lot of garbage into my system, so whats another garbage?

@henrytang2203

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnmclean7707 If you've studied organic chemistry; you'll know that 1,3-butanediol can be oxidised twice (by 2 oxygen atoms) to form Beta-hydroxybutyric acid; which is a 'ketone body fuel' our bodies produce and use. The chemistry is sound, the only question mark is the biochemistry. Our bodies always do things the complicated way with enzymes and intermediate molecules. Could have unexpected effects.

@shawnmclean7707

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrytang2203 yep. We’re saying the same thing. Sound chemistry and even sound biochemistry is a form of inference. Looking at inference in isolation to all other variables got us in this mess. Even one on the weekend for 5 years can have an unforeseen effect. The human body is a processor that takes input from the environment, both the environment and body is a multidisciplinary field. Physics, chemistry and biology. The body has to adapt to any change it was not trained on, if it can’t adapt then we get sick. We’ve seen this same thing played out with processed foods such as vegetable oils and sugar. It’s just sad to see this man selling us on the general idea that we should reduce our modern variables and reintroduce the old (cold, hot, sunlight, Whole Foods, etc), but yet he’s now selling a processed item. This is a serious flaw in foundational understanding of first principles and root cause philosophy.

@Unsensitive

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnmclean7707 agreed. We really need to approach this with skepticism. A chemical we never encountered, or didn't encounter in such quantities, could have virtually innumerable effects. Beneficial, benign, or harmful, and could vary based on other factors. The example of vegetable oils is prime here. The harms are only now becoming known & understood.. still years off of reaching public awareness, if ever. I'll admit, the product is intriguing though.

@threestans9096

2 жыл бұрын

it follows the GHB and glutamate pathways im pretty sure. Wiki has a flow chart of it

They have a sale going currently. Just ordered a trial pack of 4 for $30. TY for the code. Trying different drinks for Ketones - anyone have a favorite to share?

Where do I get the shirt?

A 6-pack is $49? Kinda steep even with a coupon

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Hey @GailGowen, I hear you! Half of that cost is the actual Fedex $25 cost for shipping water and the 21+ signature requirement. The larger sets are better on a cost per can. You can also try the 1 can, but we lose $10 on those orders, ha!. Anyhow we guarantee it, especially if you say "Mike sent me, and it isn't for me". And we have done that. Some people find it too sweet, some find it not sweet enough, etc. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

I've never been a drinker of any kind, tho I may try 1 tho only if it come in glass as well. I've nothing to do with plastic, & aluminum. I'm suprized they being so health minded didn't trade that increased cost & those whose health it's being done for if it's truly about peoples health. Tho if it's offered in a bottle I'll have 1. 🙏

Will it be sold in Japan?

Wow it's WAY more expensive than a craft IPA! $49/six pack. But I'm going to try it because what an awesome idea. Coolest new food product I've seen.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan for giving it a try. For what it is worth, the actual shipping cost with 21 and over signature is about half of the $49. So if you like it, stick with the 25 pack. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@IVespidI

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones that makes sense. I'm really looking forward to getting it! Different people react VERY differently to ethanol. There are people I don't like drinking with because they can only take one or two drinks before becoming really belligerent. If 1,3BD provides a more positive, more predictable experience for people, it could be a truly great achievement.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@@IVespidI Good point and Mike didn't really get into that aspect. It is a very different buzz. More calming and not a college bar fight type drunk. And people tend to be able to stop after 1 or 2, unlike ethanol. People call it a clean buzz.

@IVespidI

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones hey, Frank. Just wanted to drop you an FYI about my experience. When I tried it, I was just getting over a covid infection. I hadn't tested negative yet, but my symptoms were really short lived. The next day I was feeling a little blue. The second day I was hit with a terrible bout of anxiety and depression. (47 yo with no history of this) The worst of it lasted only a few days, but I actually ended up going to a clinic because I had never felt anything like it before and I thought there was something really wrong. So I don't know if this episode was caused by some kind of post Covid brain inflammation, or the drink, or a combination, or something totally separate. But it was coincidental enough that I feel like I needed to let you know. I'm so sorry I can't report a great experience! I sincerely hope it was not actually related and you have success with this product.

I quit drinking 2 months ago. Will this somehow be "falling off the wagon"? I mean, is it just a different kind of alcohol or something? I realize ketones are chemically similar to ethanol, some more info in this regard would be appreciated. Ordered anyways, lol

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@TedVanSlyck, congratulations on quitting ethanol 2 months ago. This isn't ethanol. If you are doing great and have no regrets and no interest in going back, you might be better off just staying the course. In our experience, this drink has not triggered the ethanol addictions, and may help block ethanol cravings, but I respect what you have done! Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Ordered a 24 pack this morning. Review coming after I give it a try!

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Michael, hope you like it. If not, we will refund you! Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@jefftonder5286

2 жыл бұрын

So what did you think?

@eljones8672

Ай бұрын

I’m on the edge of my seat checking daily here Mike. Are you ok? Has it taken years to arrive? We need answers as promised! We’re still waiting!

Looks like you can just buy this chemical pure directly from chemical manufacturers for a lot cheaper.

@lavinder11

2 жыл бұрын

Please don't do that.

@robdoubleyou4918

2 жыл бұрын

@@lavinder11 why?

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@svperuzer what you are looking at it chemically made racemic 1,3 butanediol . What we use is R 1,3 butanediol. It is much cleaner and natural. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Forget the pub, I'm off to the Exxon chemical plant for Saturday night now.

@claremaidofthewave251

2 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂

awesome product idea! I have no Problem with alcohol itself, but Acetaldehyde always wrecks me the day after

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Even those that are allergic to Acetaldehyde are able to drink this with no issues. Even Asians don't get flushed. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Now I want to try it 🥺

Ya staying away from wine and gin on Keto has been brutal, might try this, thanks for the recommendation.

@sonarsphere

2 жыл бұрын

have some wine from time to time.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@paladis if it doesn't work for you, we will refund you! Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Awesome! Keep it up!

Stopped drinking in 2009, just said I'd leave a comment so you'd get the algorithms 😉

Interesting, I quit drinking years ago. I loved my homemade ales, but its terrible for you.

I do not see a coupon code.

@Julie_youtube_

2 жыл бұрын

HIH

Been keto for over 5 years and carnivore for a few months, I keep is stupid simple. Meat, eggs, butter, and repeat. I'm seeing more abs than ever 🤣🤓😃

@Highintensityhealth

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing!

@gitanodel69

2 жыл бұрын

No organs, skin, tendons or gelatin though?

Cant find the discount code in the show notes.

@Julie_youtube_

2 жыл бұрын

HIH

Is there anyone who should not drink this product? Thanks! :)

Regarding metabolizing to GHB: This is 1,3 butanediol, not 1,4 butanediol. I can find online that 1,4 butanediol metabolizes to GHB but I don't see anything about 1,3 doing that. In fact, I found one site that says that it does not. But it might though because the effects you describe seem similar to the effects of GHB. I bought a 6 pack and am really looking forward to trying it but I'm definitely not going to mix it with regular alcohol until I learn more about it! **Reposted without links after automatic removal Edit: changed "BHG" to "GHB"

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@Dan, correct, 1,4 bdo only has a similar number, but is completely different. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@IVespidI

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones Ok excellent. So do you know if 1,3 metabolizes at any level to BHG? I'm sure if it does then it would be in really small amounts, but I ask because I would like to be confident about mixing 1,3 with ethanol. Thank you and good luck!

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@@IVespidI Nothing to do with BHG or GHB.

@IVespidI

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones ah, yes, GHB, not BHG I'm embarrassed. thanks for the clarification.

I imagine this would fool a breath-a-lyzer test for what its worth. A bug or a bonus depending on one's perspective.

@DrJacopo

2 жыл бұрын

It would likely still be detectable by breathalyzer as it’s structurally related to ethanol

@CashMoneyMoore

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrJacopo nope, doesn't register on breathalyzer

Is ethanol bad for you?

Really interesting.

Many studies on this?

HOW IT TASTE??

Have you done a follow up interview with Ben Bikman?

I must say I have never slept to deeply - 2 cans and I was ready for bed lol just ordered another 25 cans.

Do you have a tea beverage you endorse?

@Highintensityhealth

2 жыл бұрын

Organic loose leaf green tea mate

Im from the uk would like to try it but it says usa only

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sorry for now it is just USA based. Overseas shipping is another beast. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Ordered 6 cans because When I ordered less from another company that gives relaxation I kicked myself for not having more. I am looking forward to trying a cocktail Of this and Botanin tonics together, did my research and looks like there is no contradiction of I were to combine the 2, besides I know its way better than drinking even hardcore organic vodka. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I can always use the supplement DHM to hack if I feel it’s too strong 👍

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Or you can just take half the can and put the rest in the fridge. It won't have the carbonation after a day, but it still tastes fine. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@lkpnda287

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones nixe! Thanks for the tip 🤙🏻 Def looking forward to trying this for sure! Hoping to replace Dry farms wines and completely get off of any alcohol 😁

Woooow that’s not cheap!! Very interested though!! 🥂

It's way to pricey 23.00 per can when I tried to order it in pa. Price point off for a trial Can. Thanks

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

That was for 1 can and without Mike's HIH code. For what it is worth we lose $10 when people try the trial can. The price drops to nearly $5 with bulk. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Low carb diet generates ketones which are analogues of ghb. 1.4 bdo is an analogue of ghb but tastes like shit. I wonder what the safety profile is of 1.3 BDO, doesn’t it downregulate any receptors, overdosing, addiction, how does it effect your stomach etc Ghb is also less toxic then alcohol but way more addictive.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

1,3bd and 1,4 bd is very different. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

What's the coupon code?

@pottymouthstarseed6315

2 жыл бұрын

HIH free shipping for high intensity health

$9-15 each? damn...that's rough....maybe try one to see how it is.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

More like $5 a can once you decide it works for you. The 6 pack is mostly the actual shipping costs baked in. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Like pljkerr, I would like to know how it tastes

Best of luck to them but way out of my price range. However, I do love this kind of innovation.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

We do offer a single can to try. And if you find it helps you drink less or skip dinner, it may save you money in the long run. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

I'll take 1,4 butaediol, thank you very much

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Please don't. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

What are the 'ketones' made from? Doesn't our body produce ketones?

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

The main ingredient is R 1,3 butanediol which is converted in the liver to ketones. So you will get a rise of about 1.5mm. Yes you can get that from a 3 day fast, but you won't get a buzz from the fast. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

There is some SERIOUS misinformation in this video. 1,3 butanediol will suppress REM sleep and result in withdrawal states just like any other GABA agonist. Similarly to alcohol, it also has diuretic properties and causes dehydration. The constellation of the above cause hangovers. The only accurate part of this video is that it is not metabolized into acetylaldehyde, which is highly hepatotoxic, but not the cause of hangovers. 1,3butanediol is metabolized into beta hydroxybuterate which is harmless. It seems like a much healthier alternative to ethanol and I hope to see it become mainstream and better studied.

@TheRawTimes

Жыл бұрын

1,4 butanediol, another alcohol, converts to GHB (GABA agonist), GHB is the only known drug that enhances REM sleep, there are two separate types of GABA , GABA-A and GABA-B, they have different effects I think 1,3 butanediol will need more studies to know for sure how it affects sleep

@SunRabbit

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRawTimes I would try mixing the 2. About 2.0 ml of 1,4 BND and 10.0 ml of 1,3 BND and see what happens.

wouldnt mix alcohol with 13 b

Coupon code?

@pottymouthstarseed6315

2 жыл бұрын

HIH

Wish you could get this in. .au ....

I've tried both the 'beer-style' and the 'gin & tonic' versions of this -- Taste: The 'beer version' tastes like an energy drink mixed with booze-water. The gin and tonic version is like hard tonic flavor, not too enjoyable, but can be covered with added monkfruit, etc Effects 'beer version' -- Not really any drunk feelings, but sort of a ketone buzz, which is kind of like a relaxed nicotine, higher blood-ketone feel 'G&T version' -- Again, not drunk, but i feel more talkative, less hungry, and a good energy buzz from ketones -- I feel like they're great for the work-day to relax, focus, etc -- and also would be great for exercise energy. Overall, they're fun, a bit pricey, but nice to drink when hungry and wanting to extend a 'fast' - and also for a relaxed-focus feel. Curious what other people feel

@natalieerickson5519

Жыл бұрын

Seriously thank you for your review! So helpful!

Trying it out

Wish it was cheaper 50 bucks for a 6 pack kinda steap

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

We offer a 1 can trial. or $5 a can with bulk. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Very very interesting. Way way too expensive.

$49 a six pack. LOL they're going to need to improve that price point drastically before I try it.

@DerrickLytlephoto

2 жыл бұрын

I can buy weed cheaper than this haha

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Hey David, I agree the 6 pack is super high, but half of that price is for Fedex and 21 and over signatures. The larger amounts drop to $5 a can. You can also try just 1 can (we lose $10 on that). Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerrickLytlephoto There are many drugs that may cost less, but what is the real cost in the end to your health? Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@davidplyler8173

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones I'll keep am eye out for it when y'all get it in the larger package stores and I'll for sure try it.

would it show up on a breathalyzer?

@pete9688

3 ай бұрын

No

@pete9688

3 ай бұрын

But be ready. The buzz you get from these are different than a regular alcoholic drink.

I'm good with my free water, thanks.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Water is best! Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

What about GABA?

@Highintensityhealth

2 жыл бұрын

Oral GABA, especially when paired with L-theanine seems to work quite well: myoxcience.com/products/myo-relax-calm-contains-myo-inositol-l-theanine-magnesium-gaba-supports-sleep-neurotransmitter-hormone-support?_pos=1&_sid=5335caf9e&_ss=r

I ordered a six pack the day of this video, I got mine today, so I really don’t drink but I’m excited to try this product. Thank you Mike for sharing this information.

@keantho1111

2 жыл бұрын

What did you think ? Was it strong?

@yamihami1

2 жыл бұрын

@@keantho1111 no , it’s not strong at all

@dramaversy6569

2 жыл бұрын

@@yamihami1 did it do anything? Curious if you tried more than one at once too. Thanks

ahahah. I don't what IPA's you're drinking, but a 6er of local craft beer here is about $15 tops. Ciders can be twenty-something. This is at least 3x more. I'll just drink some camomile and go to bed lol.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

The price is in the actual shipping costs and 21+ signatures. In bulk it drops to nearly $5. And if we go retail, you don't need to pay all the shipping. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

I’m trying to wean off alcohol mostly vodka.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect. Hope this helps. If it doesn't I will refund you! Nothing to lose. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

Mike: What’s the impact of this product on the liver? Does it still adversely affect the liver like regular alcoholic drinks?

@robert-vq7bd

Жыл бұрын

they never answer this question

I kind of need it now not in a couple of years ha.

I don’t think this will help anyone with a real alcohol abuse disorder or addiction. In fact it might actually hurt them and send them into keto acidosis from drinking too much... I really wouldn’t act like this is some great new thing. it has great potential though and we should not forget that, but we should not pretend that we know more than We actually do about it.

It’s basically a watered down GHB derivative.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

Don't confuse 1,3 bdo and 1,4 bdo. Huge difference. This makes BHB not GHB. Thanks for commenting. - Frank CEO Hard Ketones

@Jonnycerious

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones Good point! I am assuming BHP is still works on the gabba receptor? Similar feeling? Btw I love the idea and ordering some to try! I will be promoting to my friends. My comment wasn’t meant to be derogatory.

@hardketones

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jonnycerious Nope, didnt take it poorly, I would love a comment, good or bad over an unaddressed negative thought. You say BHP, I think you mean BHB, and yes GABA receptors. As for the feeling, I don't know of any gaba pills that give a buzz. If you don't like it, I will refund you. Frank

@Jonnycerious

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardketones awesome! Yes I meant BHB. If it works on the same receptor it should feel similar. Look forward to trying it!