8:11 That's the scary part: there's no sensation of radiation, only the consequences

@Sylonce

2 ай бұрын

When you start coughing blood you know it's too late ;D

@V3RTIGO222

2 ай бұрын

Well, you can have acute radiation burns which actually feels like burning, and you can feel 'heat' or 'tingling' coming off of radiation sources. Generally though, the danger is hard to evaluate as sustained exposure causes the most problems for lower dose sources (you'll slowly get sick without an obvious source), whereas a sufficiently high immediate dose can immediately cause a highly unpleasant sensation that results in sickness but then a slight recovery before it goes downhill.

@AngryKittens

2 ай бұрын

*ionizing radiation You can feel other wavelengths of EM radiation just fine by going outside on a sunny day.

@LuisEdGm

2 ай бұрын

You can feel it, but if you do, you already took lethal levels of rads

@Cananatra

2 ай бұрын

@@LuisEdGm Ye, if i recall correctly an interview with one of the lads who was in chernobyl with a shovel just after the accident. He was picking up pieces of irradiated ceramic from the reactor and tossing it back into the hole. Apparently he could feel the radiation in the bones of his hand when he held the pieces through the lead lined gloves he'd been given.

I'm calling it now the person on the other end of the emergency line is actually an alter that had no choice but to strand himself on the planet so that he could fulfill the loop that brings about his own creation.

@AaronC.

Ай бұрын

Definitely. Ouroboros trope. I was thinking that, maybe in the end, the MC will return to Earth... just to wake up by another version of himself still stranded on the planet who saw that he scaped.

@alexblake5369

Ай бұрын

He could be the original. Just because the MC woke up near the crashed escape pod doesn't mean he's the original Jan. Perhaps the original Jan realized that he would need a lot of alters to work the crash site, and that it would be dangerous if he does it himself. So he created one alter, a leader Jan, placed him by the crash site so he would think he was the original Jan, and then hid away and pretended to be on comms so he could guide the mission from a safe place.

@elanasilverman4468

Ай бұрын

$10 says it's also going to specifically have to do with saving the universe... but yeah, I think you nailed it!

@CRemy-pk1fh

Ай бұрын

​@@alexblake5369Whoaaa, that's a good theory

When Neil Armstrong was on the moon he said when he closed his eyes he could see streaking and blinking lights. They were solar and galactic particles firing his eye nerves as they ripped through his body. Fun to think about.

@mrnice4434

2 ай бұрын

Astronouts in the ISS also get this.

@korunick

2 ай бұрын

It's not technically (mostly) the particles themselves hitting the nerves. While some cosmic rays might directly excite the nerves, the nerves themselves are small, with too little cross-section to have a large effect. Direct excitation of the retina cells by cosmic rays would also probably do damage. What's mostly happening is that the vitreous humor (the goo that fills most of your eyeball) is acting like a cloud chamber, and those cosmic rays are colliding with the liquid inside the eye (mostly harmlessly) and emitting photons your retina can pick up.

@Rowland4825

2 ай бұрын

also if its bad enough you can taste pennies

@Nitidus

2 ай бұрын

​@@korunick nice

@taticuskillgore5543

2 ай бұрын

Sounds hot

Death coming in 8 days. Splat: "8-5 seems like a good work day." Ah, unionized hours even in the face of imminent death.

@vforwombat9915

2 ай бұрын

well, they don't wanna work you to death

@Gollvieg

2 ай бұрын

Well, it's an enforced 8-5 since the radiation wave always comes around toward nighttime. Plus, you have to factor in basic survival maintenance like cooking food, cleaning, and operating the base.

@williamlove6876

2 ай бұрын

after reading the post about radiation, I read "Union-ized" as "Un-ionized"

@nate_d376

2 ай бұрын

Definitely has Hazard Pay, too....

@GoodEggGuy

2 ай бұрын

@@williamlove6876 That's rad.

The first ever cloned sheep was named Dolly! Naming this one Molly is definitely a reference. Also, if you sense radiation it has already killed you. Most of the victims of Chernobyl did not know they had received lethal doses of radiation till a week afterward when their insides turned to goop.

@leeellis47

2 ай бұрын

Haha you beat me to the comment, I started typing it out but I was like I know there has to be some other nerd in here that already mentioned Dolly.

@Nitidus

2 ай бұрын

Wait... So there's no crackling noise in your ear? No flickering or noisy vision? No spontaneous suffocation? ... ;) Metro and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. lied to us. Who would've thought!

@lucascastro2802

2 ай бұрын

@@Nitidus The noise happens to cameras, not our eyes

@myleswillis

2 ай бұрын

48:39 It says Project Dolly on the back of his shirt.

@fuzzyfuzzyfungus

2 ай бұрын

The "Project Dolly" jacket on the cloned tech also suggests that they had that sheep in mind.

I see Splattercat decided to build his womb high up on his base. I guess he likes to have a womb with a view! .... I'll see myself out.... ;)

New splattercat lore: he has geology powers but is weak to wooden weapons

@kylemackinnon5696

2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of that joke about how one would kill a geologist. Hypothetically of course

@mikhaelgribkov4117

2 ай бұрын

Man has original Green Lantern weakness.

@MachJacob343

2 ай бұрын

He can only perceive rocks and minerals.

@olegoleg258

2 ай бұрын

In order to kill a geologist, you have to use an obsidian knife. When they see It, they will instinctively be drawn towards the material and start explaining it's lore Now, the geologist is paying too much attention to the obsidian knife to be killed with it, so you'll just do it with a wooden stake instead

@AaronC.

Ай бұрын

@@kylemackinnon5696 with an obsidian knife, of course.

I just started watching but I would like to add... they made Frostpunk too. Not just This War Of Mine. I watch these guys like a hawk. One of the best game makers.

@dudebromanguy

Ай бұрын

Got their whole collection awhile back. South of the Circle is also a fantastic game. If you enjoy story-driven games with not much gameplay, it's an auto-recommend.

@bulasev

Ай бұрын

@@dudebromanguy I will check it out. Thanks

@SoulWhite

Ай бұрын

Well, frost punk was shit, this one seems to be another annoying uninspired story game. This war of mine was unique, the rest of their story "games" are lame.

@ChristoffRevan

Ай бұрын

​@@SoulWhiteoh stuff it, go back to your corner...child

@ilarinikkarikoski4765

Ай бұрын

@@SoulWhite Frostpunk shit? Elaborate.

WOW - that timeline thing is REALLY well done! Like WTF seriously this is better than 9/10 AAA titles! Insane!

Clone: "What is my purpose?" Splat: "You fix the lever."

@banaman7746

2 ай бұрын

Splat (later): "I need you to fix comms" Clone: "no. you make me to fix lever, I fix lever. You made me for one job, I did my job. now go away"

That's not a clone, that's the you that never was, created here out of necessity. Neither of you is any less real than the other. Wow, great concept.

@Varadiio

Ай бұрын

I think it parallels the semantics of reality and true artificial general intelligences. Assuming that such an entity is a fully realized being with free will, what actually defines their existence as artificial? Is the intentional creation of another entity through science actually distinct from organic reproduction according to science? I think the intent is to highlight that the Darwinistic evolutionary method of human learning from birth to adulthood, or "natural method" of development into intelligence, is the default. All others from sci-fi quantum computer-infused, rapidium-accelerated, artificially incubated humans, to dataset-trained digital beings, are "unnatural" and therefore artificial as in "not real". This is no no way a new concept, of course, and philosophers since Descarte, if not before, provide the necessary arguments to assert that one mind has no capacity to affirm or deny the existence of another similarly thinking mind. So many terms, reality, artifical, clone, intelligence, and so on, really only have definitions as shortcuts for everyday discussion, I think, rather than real meaning in any concrete way. It's such a wild topic, I hope the game continues with good exploration of consciousness.

Lol, "19 year old me was a terrible person..." Right there with you.

OMG you had me rolling once the Highlander clone paranoia kicked in, “There can be only one” 😂😂😂

“Let’s break one off in the quantum computer” I laughed way too much at that 😂

My dude, I have seen all I need from the name and thumbnail...... Yes, I will buy this game, please take my money! Oh by the way Splatt, if you see tadpoles in your vision or white streaks like in the game, then you're in trouble. That's literally the radiation particles hitting your optical cones within the eye.

@vforwombat9915

2 ай бұрын

ok, give me your money. i will leave you w enough to buy the game.

There is no direct sensation to being irradiated, no. However many people(not all) report a metallic taste when in an irradiated environment. you cna see this hinted at in the chernobyl miniseries where both the control room operators, and the firefighters talk about a metallic taste.

@amergingiles

2 ай бұрын

There is one other tell. White spots. As the particles hit your eyes, they are processed as dots of pure light. Not helpful if you get blasted all at once, and if you see enough spots to notice instantly, you're probably already too far gone. Edit: yeah, there's a vignette of the phenomenon when the player character is irradiated, and Abiotic Factor does the same thing.

@V3RTIGO222

2 ай бұрын

Lots of radioactive sources feel like they emit heat like from a fire, but those are often acutely radioactive. Lower dose sources of radiation are practically imperceptible, and specifically breathing in or carrying radioactive particulates does the most damage from sustained exposure (if you scrub off said particles you will avoid that danger however)

"Oh nonononono don't you go all fuzzy on me" as the video also starts artifacting because of the static

Game is gorgeous, and from the bit of dialogue, it looks like it's set in the Gliese system, which is a Red Dwarf Star, Gliese 12b is an earthlike exoplanet (which I am presuming was/is the aim of the mission). Pretty nifty take on the sci-fi survival genre.

I've been playin the demo for this, and honestly my only real gripe is that you can't walk/jump over small rocks/debris forcing you to walk all the way around sometimes; otherwise it's pretty solid

@Nitidus

2 ай бұрын

It looks very nice. But basic things like this absolutely kill my immersion. This should really not be a thing anymore in the finished version.

Dude this is what death stranding wish it could be, def on my wishlist now.

@Varadiio

Ай бұрын

I made the Kojima connection as well. It seems a lot like if Kojima wrote "The Martian". Perhaps a bit of "Interstellar" influence, as well.

@nicknevco215

Ай бұрын

Felt same

A very cool idea, although I would certainly end up murdering my clones at some point. One of me is enough to deal with.

@raidermaxx2324

2 ай бұрын

for sure dude, you are annoying AF

This is a fascinating take on these survival games in a sci-fi setting. The idea that computers advance so far that we are able to not just simulate entire alternative paths in life, but reliably create a body for you flash-imprint that simulation into a viable living body. What a trip! It really asks questions about identity, how personalities form, etc. Then we get to see these "mind records" interact with one another? That is so freaking cool! Definitely going onto my wishlist. This plot would make an excellent film or novel.

@Sam_Graves

Ай бұрын

It's a bit different, but you might enjoy "Moon" with Sam Rockwell.

This deserves a full walkthrough series!!

11 bit studios always makes fun and interesting games, and this one definitely looks the part too

@jackcoleman1784

25 күн бұрын

Agreed. Quite possibly my favorite studio of the last ten years.

wauw they put in a real life easter egg in the game. the sheep called Molly is the first ever cloned animal and it was a sheep.

@vforwombat9915

2 ай бұрын

thought it was Dolly, not Molly, so i checked: On February 14, 2003, Dolly was euthanized by veterinarians after being found to suffer from progressive lung disease. Her body was preserved and displayed at the National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh i guess molly would be dolly's quantum alter.

@m4x1mus2155

Ай бұрын

@@vforwombat9915 sorry, you are correct. I did it from memory. The alternate quantum timeline sound correct.

23:14 "A sheep! I'm not alone anymore! I'm gonna name her.. Eve."

@ineedbettername

2 ай бұрын

Scotland NO!

man, this is nearly an hour. I know the algorithms bone you unless you cater to them so this is a treat :D I do miss the longer running content and the lets plays from the good old days :) Game looks dope too. I kinda get Death Strandring vibes from the art work in a way, like the suits on the wall inside the base. Very nicely done and looks pretty intriguing. Looking forward to see what happens with this one. Thanks for doing what you do Splatty.

@23:37 Good name, Dolly was the first cloned mammal

A geologist? Splat, my large igneous province’s ignimbrites are thoroughly rustled

The Jan we start as definitely isn't even the original! What a story :)

4:45 they aren’t actually painted, if you look closely, they’re just rock of a different color.

8:30 from my understanding theres no sensation until the radiation sickness sets in and by then its far too late. Though UV radiation will give you a bad sunburn (arc flash from a welder)

@HankShaws

2 ай бұрын

Basically unusual bleeding from mucus membranes, and diarrhea. Nonetheless once these symptoms are present, you have already been irradiated.

@EleaRevils

2 ай бұрын

Ionisation from rads should be detectable by taste. It's been witnessed as a metallic taste.

@Sam_Graves

Ай бұрын

My first experience with learning how to weld, my fucking boss didn't warn me and I had a really pale complexion. I went a good couple hours at it and ended up with blisters on my arms. All in all they weren't bad bosses, but that was a real "man, fuck you" moment.

@kylemackinnon5696

Ай бұрын

@@Sam_Graves ouch i feel for ya man thats some nasty radiation burns, definatly want to be fully shielded when welding

For those who don't know, you can have acute radiation burns which during exposure actually feels like burning, and you can generally feel 'heat' or 'tingling' coming off of radiation sources of all wavelengths. Generally though, the danger is hard to evaluate as sustained exposure from most sources, particularly gamma radiation causes the most problems being far less overt (you'll slowly get sick without an obvious indicator), whereas a sufficiently high immediate dose can immediately cause a highly unpleasant sensation that results in sickness but then a slight recovery before it goes downhill... much like the Demon Core experiment where all involved were hit with a massive burst of radiation which they could physically feel and see, but belied the inevitable danger and suffering they'd experience later on. Generally speaking you can sustain many hours of lower doses of radiation and even become sick from it, but have a full recovery given proper medical care and removal of the radiation source.

This is kinda amazing cause you would get the idea that you should know how each of the different Jans would react based off of your main Jan character... except they probably all lived drastically different lives so they would react completely differently from how you may think they would react.

8:12 The sensation and giveaway of being in a highly radiated area is puking your guts out and coughing blood ☢🤢🤮🩸

This was possibly the most impressive demo I have ever tried. Definitely buying the game. Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn and Enotria: The Last Song were pretty good too. And Goblin Cleanup was a sort of cute DnD themed Viscera Cleanup Detail.

@Raulikien

2 ай бұрын

For me, every demo I tried from my wishlisted games in the Next Fest sucked ass except for The Alters, 1 day buy for sure.

I was hooked ever since that first, cryptic trailer with 'Black and White' blasting. Gameplay is not exactly what I expected, but if there's actual management and stuff, then it's a welcome surprise, because I thought it would be a fancy walking simulator. Definitely jumping on that one when it releases.

"...I'm a force of entropy that somehow accidentally stumbled his way into a "stable" life..." I feel ya bro...

I live near the Columbia plateau, lots of basalt flows. So there are spots where you get plenty of columnar jointing. Cool stuff.

I heard this from a guy who worked at Chernobyl "Uranium radiation tastes like metal. Plutonium is sweet"

At least with this scenario, you have a bit of an advantage over your clone in 2 ways: 1) You're the one who gets a sneak peak at the other guy's life before waking them up, so you know a little more about them than they know about you. 2) They're pretty sedated (and possibly helpless?) when they first wake up.

Thank you for adding "columnar jointing" to my lexicon.

38:10 That was excruciatingly funny, now my entire body hurts from laughing

Played the demo. Instantly became one of my favorite gaming experiences this year. It looks, plays and sound amazing and the creativity is crazy.

Should have named it "This Mind of Mine"

This game demo blew my mind. I'm not very sure about the survival part, even though survival is my most favorite genre, but the story plot of this game is amazing. I wouldn't be surprised, if this also comes out as a TV series, in which each episode introduces a new Alter, and end up having tons of clones at the end for an ultimate plot twist. Glad this will come out on Xbox Game pass, but otherwise it would have been an instant buy for me.

I would take DNA samples of the dead crewmates and bring them back.

@42:00 good thing they had already anticipated your overwhelming desire to kill your clone. 😆

I've bought so many games and wish-listed so many more based on the excellent coverage you provide; you really do a fantastic job. Let's face it; Indie's where it's at for ideas, creativity and value - this one looks really promising: a big step up from TWoM in fidelity terms.

i am pretty sure that by the time you feel the sensations that mean you've been hanging out in too much ionizing radiation, you have been ionized too much and are soon to be very ill, if not dead (especially if hanging out near things like the Elephant's Foot). this is why Geiger developed his Counter.

Bruh this is like a quantum version of death stranding, and I'm totally here for it

You ask about being able to tell if you're being irradiated while the game is showing you what you would experience. All those little dashes of white light that were cluttering the screen? That's the Cherenkov radiation that happens inside your eyes if you're exposed to ionizing radiation. So the game was being pretty realistic while you're wondering if you could smell it instead. Note that not all forms of harmful radiation are actually going to produce the Little white flashes in your vision.

Having done some pretty extensive NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) training in the military there's no physical or tactile signs of radiation, just the beeping of the geiger counter.

I absolutely love the innovation in this - totally immersive sci fi survival. Excellent! Thanks for introducing it to us with your signature lol comments Splattercat!

@spaceman9599

Ай бұрын

Huge kudos to 11bit for doing a bang-up job of a serious sci-fi story INSIDE an already cool-looking survival.

8:13 The scariest part about radiation is that there is no sensation telling you that it's there. Even extremely high amounts. You don't know until you start to fall apart.

This looks like a really creative reimagining of Mr. Prepper.

That static at 9:40 absolutely decimated the bitrate and video quality haha

Don't know why this reminds me of an old indie game called The Swapper. Because both have similarities in space/alien planets, and both can clone each other. I know they are incredibly different from each other, one being 2D while this one is full 3D and certainly different mechanics and objectives.

That mechanic of the station zooming in and out is freaking crazy cool.

This was probably my favorite game from the nextfest demo

Almost an Hour Long Splatt-Video :O This is amazing, the game is amazing! Thank you so much!

This game is really mind blowing. The inter personal reactions are going to be insane.

You know it's good if Splatty has nearly an hour of it 😁

"There's got to be some kind of sensation that lets you know you're in an irradiated area right?" Nope. That's the problem with radiation by the time you experience physical symptoms most likely it's too late.

Filing this under "good studios have bad days, too"

I keep seeing Pedro Pascal every time this guy takes his helmet off :)

50:59 No, you live in a series of interconnected lunches boxes in a wheel.

I appreciate how you noticed the geology, I saw it and immeditely thought "Lazy game designers" Cliche "cool rock formation"

Nope, there is no sensation of being irradiated just like there is no sensation of inhaling carbon monoxide.

@gregholley7579

2 ай бұрын

Correct, being on an airplane in the sky doses with radiation. Unfortunately once you do feel something it's too late. You are being turned into a chicken nugget from the inside.

@V3RTIGO222

2 ай бұрын

Depends on the dose, higher doses of radiation you can feel (being close to a source feeling kind of like the heat off a fire) and "see" as the radiation can activate your cone/rod cells through your body.

@chrisstokoe3169

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I get radiated on a monthly basis and u defo know after 24 h but b4 that u just peachy

The game looks fascinating, the only thing that bothered me was how & when they introduced the sleeping mechanic. If someone had just told me, "You're in immense danger and if you don't complete these tasks in 8 days, you will die", I sure as hell wouldn't be wasting time sleeping. It would be more believable if Jan stayed awake for 3 days, working nonstop, and then crashed and at that point the game told you "you need to sleep each day to maintain health and efficiency".

Don't worry about having enough Rage to be the IT guy. The Rage builds as part of working with Carbon, day in, day out... for 30 years :P

this concept is insane .... much to keep in mind and many ways for story to go...

It's funny how people are all like, "I'm killing my clones" Me and my clones will be like, "okay, are we... gonna try it or what? We might all die soon anyway."

How could you have missed this one, its Demo is indeed phenomenal. Can't wait.

holy shit. what a great idea to mix with base/colony building. I'll need to wishlist this game.

Some astronauts have mentioned they could see flashes of light while their eyes are closed at night. They speculate it could be from high energy particles.

This is a cool concept. And looks really impressive so far.

The beginning of this game reminds me The Solus Project a lot!

Molly is a ref to the first sheep (Dolly) that was successfully cloned :) Wee easter egg hahah

Yay! Glad you're reviewing this. I have been looking forward to this game for a year.

Love how splat plays a game for once with gorgeous graphics and doesn’t make a comment on it, if it was 8 bit ugly graphics we’d have to hear about 1/3rd of the video about how great the pixelart is.

You sold me with the Mushmeal jingle dude

Damn this game has so much potential. If they lean a little on rpg elements in a way with the whole stranded/alternate realities, which seems they are going to. Also dealing with the Alters personalities, they could raise/lower the difficulty of pacifying/recruiting them depending on how much you know about them or how much they differ from you. So, say to need a captain or scientist version, but this is the complete opposite from the original you, you'd need to improve respective stat prior to branching or study the alternate life, which could add other dialog/action options. If they tap into personal improvement with the MC experimenting with all the other alternative lifes he could've had, or just outright learn from them it would also be awesome. That or they revolt and kill the MC, which is probably what is going to revolt around to. Btw, the quantum computer seems to also have life info on the rest of the crew, MC could probably fetch DNA from the escape pods. Why not branch/revive them? I know this is more work with voice actors and models, but it makes sense MC would eventually resort to help from the crew, instead of just himself. Unless they mention the radiation has cracked the crew DNA enought that it is useless, although the corporation could easily have this on the computer, like, much easier than to store lifetimes of memories.

Next person you need to pull from the timeline and clone is a therapist Jan :P

I see this becoming a "We are Bob" situation sooner or later

Wow, I was not aware 11 Bit is making another game apart from upcoming Frostpunk2. Huge thanks to you Splat for keeping the lights on.

the scary thing about radiation is that human body doesn't feel it at all, you only start noticing it when it's already eating you from inside out. Need electronic devices to measure it's scale, who knows what they are using for further research

New words of the day “columnar joining”.

Tried the demo, and while it's not really up my alley, I've got nothing but admiration for the devs and their willingness to try some off the wall stuff.

Apparently a sudden metallic taste can be a sign of intense radiation poisoning. Distinctly remember that from any variety of radiation themed videos I've watched. Particularly the incidents of course.

I always had the opposite view, I'd be like Agent Smith, all of us working together. We may have the power to change the world.

This one looks super interesting. Appearance is good, movement good, level of mystery super high, which is good. Have to keep an eye out in the future.

Man, just look at what indie video games look like in 2024. Not only can they look unusual and different, these days (and with the right studio) they can show more production value than most AAA releases. Pretty incredible.

This is like Moon. The movie with Sam Rockwell. Good flick.

8:40 AFAIK, nope. Human body cannot feel the radiation. But the electronics totally can. The get statiky instantly.

Felt immersive from the start surprisingly well for me, wow! Looks amazing!!

This looks super cool! Definitely one I’ll be interested in checking out when it releases.

@lucidnonsense942

2 ай бұрын

c'mon we need to know that we shouldn't bring up the fact, that he never washes his shins, till after he turns 30... Just in case we end up travelling back in time to 90s California.

Dead Space remake was amazing I loved my time with that game.

From what I learned in the military radiation feels like raindrops on the skin.

They Pedro Pascal’d the main character..(I love it)