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@karenhouser4123

Жыл бұрын

Q to,

@rosemarysongco4025

Жыл бұрын

Great verdict

@NKFoss

Жыл бұрын

@@karenhouser4123 Add

@danielflores7724

Жыл бұрын

#1 He was a teacher and she was a student # 2 He was a teacher and she was a student

@troyjanise9051

Жыл бұрын

I wasnt sure how this one was goin to turn out. I believe the worst thing he had going for him were the internet searches. His interrogation didn't help him much either. So many killers mess up by not asking how their victims died when the police inform them of the deaths. Not quite as smart as they think they are.

Anyone else addicted to these real life crime docs?? It's eating up my time but I can't stop 😶

@JessicaBlaze89

Жыл бұрын

I watch these while cleaning my house, doing the laundry, when I'm in line to pick up the kids from school, even in the background when I take a hot relaxing bath😂😂😂

@kimbershark

Жыл бұрын

​@@JessicaBlaze89Same! I can't get started on the chores until I find a good episode to listen to 😂

@oregoncountrygirl

Жыл бұрын

Oh definitely

@drsamuelk

Жыл бұрын

I can't sleep without watching one 😵

@vtorialyn

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been addicted to true crime for absolute years! Especially serial killers. That’s all I watch. I told my husband he better never cheat on me, or God help him 😂

Narcissists always think they're the smartest person in the room. It's very satisfying when they're proved wrong.

@SidewaysInTraffic

Жыл бұрын

She's the one who had an affair. Not only an affair, but wanted to take the daughter away. Not even the family had bad things to saw about him.

@ParadiseAndGin

Жыл бұрын

@@SidewaysInTraffic braindead buffoon lmao I bet you worship Andrew Tate

@PaperMario64

Жыл бұрын

@@SidewaysInTraffic You do know both things can be true, right? He can be a narcissist and she cheated. Cheating happens for many reasons. Many times it’s because a spouse refuses to acknowledge and address a problem in the relationship. Humans always want to make this a black and white, one-sided problem. Marriage is way too complicated for that. You never know who people are behind closed doors.

@brettvv7475

Жыл бұрын

​@@SidewaysInTraffic What's your point?

@SidewaysInTraffic

Жыл бұрын

@geeneebear By far, the stupidest comment I've read in a long time. Either you cheat or you don't, that's black and white. She told her parents, "Have you ever looked at someone in their eyes and felt like they're the one?" . What excuse for cheating is that lmao.

The fact that he wanted nothing to do with the child until she was leaving makes me so mad. So many parents like that, making it so much harder on the other parent and the child!

@brandyyolidio4213

6 ай бұрын

He still did not gis daughter, it was a form of control for her mother, that seems obvious to me.

@Wally-pu2hh

6 ай бұрын

Lawd have mercy you are beautiful 😍

@Mazebarber5353

6 ай бұрын

This was filmed in 08, the production of the episode seemed biased towards the victims family. Compared to the new episodes aired

@JayTheDodo

6 ай бұрын

We only hear one side and it's alway skewed towards the victim.

@flingonber

4 ай бұрын

@@Mazebarber5353 Agreed, she's still the victim and of course didn't deserve to be murdered, but she was a pretty terrible person. She had a baby her husband didn't really want and then immediately started cheating on him and decided she wanted a divorce so she could be with her New Age boyfriend from her pseudoscience cult...not really a good look.

I will NEVER understand people who talk to the police without an attorney. If you're innocent you need a lawyer and if you're guilty you definitely need a lawyer.

@naptime7053

Жыл бұрын

Or agree to take a polygraph. Guilty or not those things are like contacting a psychic.

@Trey-gl5rg

Жыл бұрын

@@naptime7053 never agree to take a polygraph if your guilty.

@SandyWolf-

Жыл бұрын

Cops play that mind game and most people terrified but I agree 👍🏻

@Pauly421

11 ай бұрын

@@naptime7053 Polygraphs are bunkum. But yeah always have legal rep before saying a word.

@glamdolly30

11 ай бұрын

It is typically arrogant narcissists like this killer Tom Murray who will talk to police without a lawyer, believing themselves smarter than everyone else - including seasoned detectives! Thankfully it usually gets them caught faster.

The first huge red flag.. he never even asked about Carmen’s demise.

@cheyennescottage

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! It could have been a car wreck or suicide but he didn't ask!

@nitogg7529

Жыл бұрын

definitely

@phillipsmom6252

Жыл бұрын

First red flag…… he wouldn’t shut his mouth.

@tessaducek5601

Жыл бұрын

@@phillipsmom6252 Second .. Those clothes!!

@phillipsmom6252

Жыл бұрын

@@tessaducek5601 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

He actually said He was “ Tickled to death” to help the police a few hours after he learns his ex has been BRUTALLY murdered. That’s not too much of a red flag.

@granny58

Жыл бұрын

I had the same reaction

@heavenbound3665

Жыл бұрын

Really odd choice of words. An immediate red flag to me

@BBB-rd2qi

Жыл бұрын

Very odd choice of words. He was a linguistics professor. Unnerving!

@SUN-it6rf

Жыл бұрын

Very cold person ! 😡😡

@ariloves10

Жыл бұрын

Recipe for disaster from the start. He married his student. Power tripper. He broke 'rules' from the start. Who wouldn't get tired of being controlled? Look at her pics with her professor husband verses her new fiance. She looked like 2 different people. She looked stifled with the husband, and looked loved and free with the fiance. The smallest detail of his pink sweatshirt and purple sweats was so odd..

Reminds me of my ex. That's a no. The eyes, the smile.... My ex was the first person to teach me that not everyone feels empathy or has a conscience.

@Miracle-333

2 ай бұрын

Narcissists do walk this earth. HARD lesson I had to learn. They are almost not even human.

He didn't want her dead. He just wanted her "reasonable." Creepy line! He also had the creepiest eyes in all of the photos!

@dw3403

5 ай бұрын

crazy eyes.

@zakariafarah1101

4 ай бұрын

I thought that line was an admission of guilt. The police overlooked that statement. In his mind, Carmin was not reasonable so the logical conclusion is death

@PsychoKupcake

3 ай бұрын

And creepy smile

@Wandering841

2 ай бұрын

The two men she chose were too creepv.

@ricktandron3669

2 ай бұрын

“I will never let you go, do you hear me? No matter how long it takes, I will keep you safe. And I will find a way for us to be together.” ― Wendy Ownes

If someone informed me that my Ex partner was dead, the first thing out of my mouth would be 'how, what happened?', during his 10 hour interview with the police, not once did he ask how she died. No wonder he was the number one suspect right from the start!...

@TomikaKelly

Жыл бұрын

The first thing that would come out of my mouth is silence. My EX is none of my business.

@arcdave2735

Жыл бұрын

First thing that would pop of my head would be "okay" so🤷

@bautistalover

Жыл бұрын

I mean as messed up as it is, he wasn’t going to pretend to care. In all honesty if my ex was being “inappropriate” while we were married than asked for a divorce so they can be with the person they were inappropriate with and then wanted to take our child out of the state I wouldn’t have warm and fuzzy feelings for that person either. She was either naive or stupid to think they would eventually be friends.

@user-mv7kh5sv9z

Жыл бұрын

This is not about how you would feel if your ex died given the experience you'll once had together but it's pretty common sense to at least inquire as to how she died. It's not normal not to bring up that question up at least once

@bautistalover

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mv7kh5sv9z it’s actually not normal especially if they were not on good terms with each other. There are some people who just don’t care about people anymore once the relationship is over. Not asking about an ex doesn’t make you guilty, it just means you don’t care. That’s what common sense tells you.

I kept being late with my house chores watching this kinds of crime documentaries 😵 is it just me or most of us who are hooked? 🥴😵

@GingerNinja1

Жыл бұрын

You should listen to podcasts during chore time 😂 that way there's no need to watch the screen. It's a win win! 😉

@irvinalewis

Жыл бұрын

@@GingerNinja1 great idea. My problem is night time when I should be sleeping. I say "one more episode" but it goes on and on.

@Mslulunieves

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the club 😂

@puppy2haley

Жыл бұрын

You are not alone.

@periel

Жыл бұрын

You are not alone! I try and watch WHILE I’m cleaning but often find myself too riveted.

Amen on what the dad said in the beginning. “This case will be solved….I will spend every last penny!” I would do the same!!!!

I’m not a person who likes drama but give me anything with science and I’m all about it. 48 Hours has been one of my favorite crime shows. This guy is a nutter. RIP Carmen 🙏🏼🕊️🙏🏼

@noahmclaughlin2251

Жыл бұрын

There is no science in this case.

Larry volunteering with victims of domestic violence absolutely sent me over the edge 😢

@pamelafrye4667

Жыл бұрын

Me too, he is/was honoring her memory by doing that, very touching & shows that he is/was a very GOOD MAN!!!!! May they BOTH be Resting In Heaven surrounded by the Angels 😇 ✨️ 🙏 ❤️....

@ivermectin1974

Жыл бұрын

Such a good man he’s willing to date a married woman with a family. Wish we all could be as good as him.

@krisquigley4497

Жыл бұрын

@@furball192 I think you did.

@brettvv7475

Жыл бұрын

​@@furball192 Gr8 b8 m8

@granny58

Жыл бұрын

@ivermectin1974 yes. It's called adultery. They were both dishonest.

His eyes are wild and frightening. And the hatred in his eyes when holding his daughter. Wow.

@sofie1065

Жыл бұрын

A very intruiging face. Hardly ever seen anything like it.

@AndyWitmyer

2 ай бұрын

​@@sofie1065 He looks like David Bowie to me.

@Miracle-333

2 ай бұрын

And the fact that the daughter looks JUST LIKE her mom I’m sure didn’t help😢

@user-hi6ou1gm6f

Ай бұрын

A monster

@hollyhope7227

7 күн бұрын

I have seen it too. Real hatred! I do not understand why they fight for their kids. Must be about power. Creepy narcissists.

I loved when her dad said “I would hurt him right then badly” 👍🏻👏🏻 she was daddy’s little girl for sure , bless them all 🙏🏻

@anneperry9014

10 ай бұрын

So would I have!!🙄🙄🤬🤬

I've been watching Unsolved Cases, Cold Cases and 48 hours for YEARS. I have also cried many many tears. In this life we as humans have choices and decisions we ourselves alone get to make, and brutally killing a loved one should NEVER EVER be good choice . My heart goes out to the family, to Kiara, and also to Larry.

@TNT-km2eg

3 ай бұрын

Wow !

" I am tickled to death to participate in this.." couldnt hide the glee

@McPierogiPazza

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't get over the phrasing! "Glad to help" ok, but tickled? To death?

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

Yrs! That was a very telling and creepy thing to say! Also never asked what had happened before and cuts and bruises on both BOTH hands. Guilty!!!

@LittleLouieLagazza

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that's all kinds of messed up. That guy is sinister to the bone.

The fact that Tom didn’t ask “how did she die?” pretty much proves he did it, for me. If Tom was innocent, he might have thought she died from natural causes, like a heart attack.

@redacted2275

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he discovered *she was cheating on him since forever before ending things* and he just didn't care anymore. tHe fAcT tHaT she cheated on him is disgusting, no failed marriage give you the right to do that.

@j.akelly9775

Жыл бұрын

So having actual evidence doesn’t really matter? Good grief that’s a ridiculous statement.

@itsemeinin

Жыл бұрын

That is a common thing that murderers somehow seem to forget.

@itsemeinin

Жыл бұрын

@@j.akelly9775 well she isn’t on the jury so i think she can express her opinion.

@j.akelly9775

Жыл бұрын

@@itsemeinin that isn’t evidence. Not at all.

Anyone else find themselves struggling to hold back tears by the end of these ?😩 RIP Carmen & Larry Lima 🤍 & to the rookie prosecutor for absolutely CRUSHING that case 👏 Amazing

@mochimochi7669

Жыл бұрын

Yea, usually after a few episodes I need to pet my cats or watch cute animal videos. Take care of yourself 😊

@Darin.Pearson

Жыл бұрын

Me

@dinuxplay8003

Жыл бұрын

Lmao, calling that a "absolutely CRUSHING that case" is extremely embarrassing. She was choking, stuttering, and being over dramatic. The only reason that she won the case was not necessarily because of how "she presented herself", it was literally below par btw. But because of the computer forensics and the emotional/biased jury and people involved in it. Saying that she "absolutely CRUSHED that case" is worse than an over-exaggeration.

@Lunit30

11 ай бұрын

@@dinuxplay8003exactly lmao

@i3mell

9 ай бұрын

they died?

This is such an incredibly heartbreaking case! 3 things that I took away despite the horror: 1. Ciara will grow up in a family of love despite losing BOTH parents 2. Angela - you're a rock star! You fought as a NEW prosecutor and won 🙌 3. Larry - turned his tremendous loss into the gift of helping others and asking nothing in return by volunteering. NOTHING can bring a loved one back, but the cycle of moving forward in grace and stewardship will definitely make an impact on the world.

@dudemusstinkmeyer9843

9 ай бұрын

So true

@brandyyolidio4213

6 ай бұрын

Kiara not Ciara, and you are correct.

@SLOTWIZARD

6 ай бұрын

@@brandyyolidio4213 no she’s actually correct it is with a C pay attention to the video “ciara”

I've noticed one thing from watching these types of shows , the guilty never ask how the victim died.

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes the innocent don't ask because they don't care I wouldn't have asked

@lulu-iz7bv

Жыл бұрын

If my spouse cheated on me and then tried to take my child... I wouldn't care if or how he died. I wouldn't ask. I would not want to be bothered to go to the police station. I would probably say, "He isn't my problem any longer. Go ask his lover..."

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

@@lulu-iz7bv exactly not my monkeys not my circus

@ariloves10

Жыл бұрын

Keen observation. Spot on.

@obsidiansea

Жыл бұрын

The few times I've seen it happen, they come across as very fishy. Maybe that's one reason why they avoid asking.

Found it impressive that the entire extended family from across the country attended court. One lucky little lady despite the horrible circumstances.

@blazefairchild465

Жыл бұрын

I also liked the Law they have in Kansas ,where the family can privately hire a special helper prosecutor . I would have done the same as her parents did. I think this couple were married way too long before adding a child to their lives. Larry was at retirement age & she quit her income so he was looking on not being able to retire until the child is grown. Had they thought things through they should have broke up when she decided she wanted to be a mom. She could have found a man who was young enough to commit to supporting her & child while she quit her job. It also easy to wait for the divorce is over with before you find a new person to allow around the child and family. This was a older man enraged he was loosing his wife & child. Not because he wanted to love them ,but he is enraged because they are HIS in his mind. This dear child has lost both her parents , this is a terrible crime.

@redacted2275

Жыл бұрын

One lucky little cheater.

@JuditaHoffman.

Жыл бұрын

She is terribly lucky, except for the breathing problems. There's none.

@robjj5373

Жыл бұрын

She's dead

@lisawentworth6831

Жыл бұрын

@@redacted2275 they were referring to the child! Great for you to be so nasty! I hope someday you get into a relationship that becomes abusive with a narcissist, and face violence...then maybe you won't be so judgemental.

He is probably guilty but It is extremely scary to see that you can get convicted without a shred of convincing physical evidence when there are plenty of other possible conclusions by 12 amateurs without any qualifications because they feel you are guilty.

@lebohanganesubingwa5474

11 ай бұрын

True. That's scary

@T4KE_A_BREATH

11 ай бұрын

I was wondering if I was going to see this comment.. because I’m not convinced he did it.. it was a violent crime, and he didn’t leave not one drop of sweat, blood, one strand of hair, and eyelash? C’mon…

@seraphale

11 ай бұрын

I have a family member who got sentenced to almost 50 years by this very method. There was ZERO forensic evidence, the flawed testimony of one "expert" whose opinion was that it was "possible", and testimony by someone who had been coerced. It is my belief that no crime actually ever took place at all, and that this was just a witch hunt in a country backwater. Before all of this, I thought gross mistakes were an anomaly. Now my eyes are open.

@frank1903

11 ай бұрын

You have a gross misunderstanding about the law. Circumstantial evidence is equally as relevant as physical evidence. So to say that the Prosecution brought a case against this man without a shred of evidence is totally inaccurate.

@everyoneisonsteroids2720

11 ай бұрын

@@frank1903 it is self evident and goes without saying that circumstantial evidence can be extremely relevant and the case proves just that. Maybe instead of of being rude just think about what I meant by real evidence. I am sure you can figure this out as plenty of people have before you. Maybe writing “convincing physical evidence beyond a reasonable doubt” would have kept you from writing your little lecture.

The moment he talked to police for hours and "wanted her to be reasonable" were two huge red flags. And his first reaction of being inconvenienced. Even if you hate your ex you would at least ask about your child and their safety. And about what happened.

Tom eyes look crazy,I don’t care how nice he want to portray himself,he’s eyes says otherwise

@foxibot

Жыл бұрын

I always look at the eyes. Some people just have that unhinged look. I remember I said that about a guy with dark eyes and got attacked in the comments that I said his eyes look crazy and dark, that it was some kind of prejudiced comment because he was middle eastern. I say that about light colored eyes too. Crazy eyes are crazy eyes. Alex Murdaugh the guy that just killed his son and wife, had dark looking eyes like a shark I didn’t even realize they were blue until they showed a close up of him when he was more calm. It was amazing how a red headed light eyed person eyes go dark like that when he was angry. When he would get angry in court his eyes looked dark. I have seen nice looking people but when they get close enough I then see their eyes and say uh oh, crazy psycho eyes! I saw a good looking guy one night at this Restaurant bar place and when he got close to me and a friend, I said psycho eyes, and some girl sitting next to me said oh my God how did you know that, he is crazy. She has gone out with him and found out he was nuts. I said I just looked at his crazy eyes. He looks unhinged.

@meatavoreNana

Жыл бұрын

Serial killer eyes😮

@elh1977

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe nobody in her family ever saw through his nice guy persona.

@AlhamdulilJesus

Жыл бұрын

@Elvia L. Hernandez maybe he was really a nice guy that was broken by his cheating wife who wanted to take his child away. She broke his heart so he stopped hers. All is fair in love and war

@zellyu8559

Жыл бұрын

That's what jm saying!! Every picture is terrifying!! It would be so hard tk look into those eyes. How did he fool her family so well?

I’m glad he acknowledged that his daughter was with a family that loved her.

Rest in peace, Larry, you are now with the woman you loved. ❤️ My sincere condolences to the families involved and especially her beautiful little girl. 🙏🙌

@auntyshakira747

4 ай бұрын

Oh, has Larry passed away. He sounded like a beautiful caring Man.

@JadedBelle

4 ай бұрын

​​@@auntyshakira747Larry seemed like a great person. I agree. Yes, Larry passed in 2011.

@vickysears8946

2 ай бұрын

I truly believe, he passed of a broken heart... " soul mates " 😔😔 Once her k!ller was brought to justice, he was able to join her. 🕊🕊

@helencheung2537

11 күн бұрын

@@auntyshakira747 His obituary (2011) says he is survived by his 2 daughters amd describes him as a loving family man, so he must have married, though it doesn't mention a wife. The obit was clearly written by those who loved him.

Isn’t amazing how Carmen’s family was united and there for the entire trial! You didn’t see a soul representing or supporting Tom. Other than his highly paid lawyers. Of course! That alone says a lot about the type of man he is. Narcissist tend to alienate people.

@ABC-ed8cg

15 сағат бұрын

Her whole family supported her cheating on Tom. Says a lot about them. Instead of divorcing him first, she went out and date some other guy under his nose. Tell me which married man won’t feel insulted and upset?! Would you if your spouse acted in this manner?? Who’s the narcissistic one here?

The poor Lady's Father said "Tom couldn't have done this, he doesn't have the GUTS!! Never underestimate what people are capable of.

@SidewaysInTraffic

Жыл бұрын

When the fam said Tom doesn't drink excessive or smoke or had any bad things to say over a period of what 8 years? Hmm something doesn't seem right.

@pamelafrye4667

Жыл бұрын

​@SidewaysInTraffic As soon as her father said "he was too good to be true", THAT WAS A RED FLAG RIGHT THERE!!!!!! That IS EXACTLY WHAT & WHEN everyone SHOULD be weary & watchful of & for!!!!!!

@greyman0000

Жыл бұрын

it's exactly the gutless who are capable of doing horrible things to those physically weaker than themselves

@marvinabigby5509

Жыл бұрын

@@SidewaysInTraffic There are people that we just never really know who they truly are

@juliem3987

Жыл бұрын

That’s right.. sad when you can’t trust the people that supposedly love you 😢

"I never wanted Carmen dead, I wanted her reasonable." That sounds like a confession to me.

@Lkmsundastood

Жыл бұрын

Yup!

@laurayarbrough4646

Жыл бұрын

Me, too. Like, wtf?!

@ivydickson7596

Жыл бұрын

Coercive control.

@laurayarbrough4646

Жыл бұрын

@@ivydickson7596 sounds like it.

@thecoldglassofwatershow

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Also sadly sounds like something my ex would say.

I have an abusive ex husband too..and one thing I learned is to put hidden cameras inside and outside my home..and got my gun license..learned how to shoot at a shooting range and purchased my first gun for safety...Never let your guard down from anyone.. especially an abusive ex

@Nick2bad4u

9 ай бұрын

Did you cheat on your ex and take ur kids far away to live with ur new husband too?

@emmalouise7884

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nick2bad4ualthough that's morally wrong it doesn't matter, the ex was a controlling narcissist and I'm not surprised she cheated. She should have left before started a new relationship but often when with an abusive partner a new one is an escape. I'm not condoning cheating but I understand it.

@ABC-ed8cg

15 сағат бұрын

Well if you don’t cheat, you’ll have nothing much to worry about.. Tom isn’t abusive. Carmen cheated right under his nose. Tom wanting to get back at her is par for the course. Her family painted her as an angel. She’s not. She’s also not a looker. Would you feel insulted and upset if your husband is happily dating someone else while still married to you?!!

@emmalouise7884

7 сағат бұрын

@@ABC-ed8cg currently no because his snoring keeps me awake every night I'd gladly give him to another woman!

To hear this father talks about his daughter is heartbreaking. His pain is palpable. RIP.

@terrytownsend5583

5 ай бұрын

Eye roll

It was great to see a rookie prosecutor, Angela Wilson, cut her teeth on a case she cared so deeply about and WIN against seasoned defense attorneys. Good for her! This case was surely fantastic for her career. Tom was the perfect image of a narcissist; gloating from the very start during his interrogation and thinking he was so much smarter than everyone else. It was honestly so gross. I’m glad Carmin’s family got justice for her and can find some closure knowing that their granddaughter and niece won’t be raised by the man who took her away from them prematurely in a most grisly and cruel manner. That search history from his computer sure did prove that he’s a literature professor and not a computer scientist! HA!

@LilyBecca

Жыл бұрын

For how smart these narcissists always think they are, they sure are stupid when it comes to searching the internet. It seems to get them every time.

@jayr3635

Жыл бұрын

You're happy a man was convicted and not a single peice of evidence placed him there!? Lord what a scary world we live in if we're celebrating convictions without a single peice of evidence!!

@deannamarshall8894

Жыл бұрын

​@@jayr3635 Thank you! Someone with a Brain. So many people jump on the band wagon.

@deannamarshall8894

Жыл бұрын

​@Rebecca Malone I've searched the internet for things like he did. Doesn't mean anything.

@mollielambert9501

Жыл бұрын

👍

My heart breaks for Carmen’s parents. I agree with them that an affair only worsens an unhappy situation. Her husband was a psychopath.

@sacredcoaching7332

Жыл бұрын

I am a parent who’s daughter was murdered, brutally and dismembered. She was 23 in 2010. I don’t say this for sympathy, but because I 💯 understand.

@radioog6945

11 ай бұрын

So what else is new

@atanasna4ev277

9 ай бұрын

@@sacredcoaching7332 I am so sorry for your louse! May her soul be in peace!

@daCubanaqt

9 ай бұрын

This story is the second one I’ve seen where the wife had a baby with a narcissist who didn’t want the child in the first place, but when it came to custody all they cared about was winning. I cannot understand why anyone would want a child with someone who doesn’t want children. Do they think that once the child arrives their mind would change?

This is a classic example of prosecuting someone when you don’t actually have a case. Lord have mercy on any of us if we ever stand before a jury because they don’t really care about actual evidence and they will convict you based on what they think.

@joseeduardotschen9186

Жыл бұрын

It’s scary! Many innocent are behind bars because of this.

@bladefiresc59

Жыл бұрын

I think he's guilty, but I agree ... the case was too weak

@lisachurchill1185

Жыл бұрын

oh my gosh... they couldn't even prove he was there; none of his blood, no fingerprints, no one saw his car there etc. but yet... guilty. wow! I was so shocked at the verdict

@Autumn-Mist

Жыл бұрын

@@bladefiresc59 but the motive was exceedingly strong. Moreover, the searches found on his computer in relation to when the crime occurred was damning. Also the bloody shoe prints should have been taken into consideration. There are enough precedented cases were people have used shoes either to large or too small to throw off investigators.

@glamdolly30

Жыл бұрын

You're obviously one of those people who expects a criminal case to be handed to you on a silver platter, all wrapped with with a bow. That's not how evidence works - there is rarely ever a photograph taken at the moment the killer commits the crime! And every case is judged to the standard 'Beyond a reasonable doubt' NOT simply 'Beyond a doubt'. Legal language is very precise for good reason! You no doubt have total faith in DNA evidence and forensics generally, and make the rookie mistake of thinking circumstantial evidence is somehow inferior. It isn't. Circumstantial evidence IS evidence, and a circumstantial case, given the right amount and quality of evidence, can be even more compelling than a forensic one. This was actually a VERY strong case - so strong, that the killer Tom Murray's 2008 appeal was dismissed! The only potential problem with primarily circumstantial cases, is they require jurors with the ability to join the dots and do some work to put the puzzle pieces together and recognise the big picture. As your post demonstrates, that is sadly beyond the intellectual abilities of some!

What a lucky little girl to have such amazing extended family.

As terrible as her death was, don't have an affair ever. Affairs are narcissistic and nothing good comes from them. Don't listen to your pals telling you how happy you look either. Get a divorce, take time to heal, and then proceed with your life.

@dcc-randomstorieswithmel7424

Жыл бұрын

Affairs are bad but that's not narcissistic, you people need to understand that disorder,don't confuse selfishness with narcissism

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

I got 4 great kids from an affair they aren't biologically mine but they're mine I got sole custody of all my kids and raised them by myself in 6 years tha youngest will graduate

@WideAwakeHuman

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwoermansr haha that’s like saying you feel off a 3 story building and didn’t break any bones - just cuz something may have turned out better than expected doesn’t mean it’s a good idea

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

@@WideAwakeHuman it was a great idea in fact the only reason I married the second time was to adopt the kids divorce her and get the kids safe that was her parents idea and they paid for it all

@dantanna3161

Жыл бұрын

Cheating is never acceptable. She should have left her husband, got divorced first, then started seeing this other guy. When u take a person's world away, you don't know what they are capable of!

Having a psychopath in my family I know all about the “facade” they create to look good and normal. Thank God they found him guilty.

@Irish-Triplet

Жыл бұрын

Amen to your comment. I have to remind myself that "Mercy doesn't rob justice", either in this life or the next.

@cleopatraoatcake7364

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@christo3635

Жыл бұрын

They are chameleons ,you'll never see a psychopath coming ,until the damage is done .

@jodeeps2287

Жыл бұрын

@@christo3635 very true, I was married to one, my life was a mess when I was with him. I didn't realize how bad of a mess until I was able to get away from him.

@christo3635

Жыл бұрын

@@jodeeps2287 I completely understand! Most people don't realize they are tangled up with a predator like that until it's to late.. These psychopaths have a way of mimicking normalcy to get past your radar , and they tend to go after empaths ,who are beautiful inside and out.. 😊

Thank you for uploading all these old episodes! They're old, but new to me. I've already watched all the new ones from the past few years.

These videos have the perfect tile, because I put one on to watch, fall sleep and I swear another 48 hours worth play while I sleep! 😂 I got back to my history to find where I left off and loads have played without me knowing 😂

The fact that he never asked what happened to her when they told him she died and took him to the police station, tells me he is definitely guilty

@quickchris10

Жыл бұрын

Well they could've edited it out; this show is about making him look guilty, since he was convicted.

@Stephie84488

Жыл бұрын

​@c m yeah I'm watching this and they make her sound like a Saint. She was all messed up. Couldn't settle on a career, changing her mind about kids so late in life and cheating on her husband. Everything was all about her according to this show. And they call the killer the narcissist.

@quickchris10

Жыл бұрын

@@Stephie84488 they were two narcissists in a narcissistic society. She may have been a saint, IDK, and she may have been a good mother and housewife and him too but they omit so much info that it's deceptive. I mean, all her family can say about her is a list of words and cliche's, like they didn't really know her. If I eulogize a family member, I would also have to say all the things that made them mad, that they didn't like, and tell some specific stories. Since she kept herself apart from her family, everything they are saying is cast into doubt, and this is their story. Although they do interview his students and they liked him. What excuse do the producers have for not interviewing his family, I wonder. They don't offer a disclaimer, like, ``we tried to interview his parents but couldn't.'' Very unjournalistic/deceptive.

@mihirengg19

7 ай бұрын

@@quickchris10 this show is all about making men look guilty and hailing messed up, adulterer women. The people blindly believe the women. Like in this case, where was the DV? Proof? I replied to a comment on Barry Morphew which called him evil, lacking morality, that wasn't his wife the one who lacked character since she cheated? As Barry is yet to be found guilty, how can you be so sure? And I invited a ton of women giving me the same treatment they gave Barry. Calling me judgmental, psycho, murderer for pointing out that a man is not those evil traits at least until he's proven guilty without doubt.

@Justice-ef9sk

6 ай бұрын

This guy is innocent, I don’t think he did it. That’s the problem with shows like this- viewers THINK they are seeing the entire case unfold before them, lol when in fact, you are only seeing tiny scraps of the real case. In reality--You’re seeing what the producers of the show want you to see

Theres no one home behind the professors eyes, even when they were supposedly happy. That sold me.

Ms. Carmen made a lot of poor decisions; nevertheless, she certainly did not deserve her fate💔

@stumack9755

6 ай бұрын

"a lot"?

Obviously, this guy is the most likely culprit and I do think he's the murderer, but I'm not sure if his guilt is proven beyond reasonable doubt. Sketchy search histories and an enemy's death alone aren't enough to imprison someone for the rest of their life in my honest opinion. I do believe they've got the right man in this case, but this kind of trial seems very dangerous; sooner or later someone innocent is gonna end up in a prison cell.

@theresabarker3522

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure there are already innocent people sitting in prison for crimes they didn’t commit. Some have already been proven innocent years later. Although this man might have been guilty….I don’t think there was any evidence to prove without a doubt that he committed this crime.

@Brandon-a-writer

Жыл бұрын

@@theresabarker3522 As a lawyer with 12 years of experience litigating cases, this is a nightmare. There is nothing to say … This is almost terrifying that it was prosecuted at all. Nothing puts him at the crime scene, all they have is him spending as much time as possible to talk to them without a lawyer … There are plenty of reasonable doubts. This is a horrifying case, even if it is most likely the husband did it. Too many unknowns, and once again, the only thing to say is that this is the kind of case that puts innocent people in jail. The defense put on a better case, too. They just had an unlikeable client with a questionable internet search history (that, in my opinion, was reasonably explained). He is a professor of language and he talks a lot, has searched the internet for CSI type materials, it's not about what the prosecution thinks; it is about what they can prove. One of the worst convictions I've ever seen and when I clerked I did tons of appellate work. This is unlikely to be a conviction that holds up on appeal. I could tear this to pieces … A seasoned appellate worker is going to tear this conviction to pieces. Life in prison over internet searches in an age where all our internet searches would hang us… especially for true crime fans. This is terrifying.

@michellegodwin6567

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. A whole lot of reasonable doubt was going on here - the prosecution should not have gone to trial when they did, because if I was in that jury box I would've had to vote innocent, even though I also think he did it.

@orvil9223

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, and all of you who replied to this comment, also, for restoring my faith that not everyone is so easily swayed by simple finger-pointing! I have no idea how this case even went to trial.

@merrymeditation

Жыл бұрын

@@Brandon-a-writer I came here to find out if there was an appeal, and what was the outcome if so. I too believe he ought to have had a better jury, however, he has no one but himself to blame for saying anything other than " LAWYER PLEASE" from the moment police had contact with him. Without his big dumb mouth, he almost certainly would have walked. I bet he is kicking himself in prison. As an aside, couldn't bear the Father saying " she was trying SO hard to save the marriage"--when we already know she was seeing that Lima dude, lol. People are strange. Still, a tragic case all round, really felt for her sisters and how much they clearly adored Tom. Having to digest him doing what he did must be surreal.

I worked with family courts and custody disputes for YEARS.. People change at this point. They're not the same spouse you married. Things get dirty and rough it's very sad.

@junehalog024

Жыл бұрын

Well, for one, custody disputes reach down to the pride of each individuals. Aside from having custody of the child, it makes the losing parent suffer by being away from their child. Nothing hurts a parent than their own offspring hating them.

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

@@junehalog024 my ex-wife doesn't seem bothered by my kids hating her

@junehalog024

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwoermansr Well... There are people who are like that but we have to consider 3 things here... One, how old are the children. 2, how old you are and three... How much they hate your wife, their step mom...

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

@@junehalog024 1 the kids are now all adults the youngest 2 just turned 18 not long ago 2 my age has nothing to do with it and 3 it's their egg donar not their step mother and the oldest 2 were 10 the youngest 2 not yet 6 months when she dumped them at my parents while I was in a coma not expected to live after a horrible accident and said I can't do this and walked away for the last time they'd ever see her or hear from her by her choice her and her new hubby live less than 5 miles from me in a camper on 5 acres I had no use for so I gave her so she could be close to the kids and be in their lives she made the choice

@junehalog024

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwoermansr Well, I'm just looking out for any possible problems that may arise for you and your family. But looks like things are still in better shape than most who maybe in a situation where the kids don't like their step mother. Your situation is different since the woman is the egg donor so she is, in all shape or form, their biological mother. As a footnote, I'm glad for you that you got better after that incident. I may not know what you went thru to get into a coma but alas, here you are and so, I, for one, am glad for you, sir. ,👍

Professor falling for his student will always be a scarlet red flag.

@granny58

Жыл бұрын

Well he was omly 27 at the time.

@thomasgentry6201

Жыл бұрын

Student was a pain in the rear end.

@lunatic5162

Жыл бұрын

​@@granny58 it's not about age hello. It's about power dynamic ffs

@LittleLouieLagazza

Жыл бұрын

Be fair. A girl with daddy issues falling for a 27 year old man is a scarlet red flag, too. Just sad.

@thomasgentry6201

Жыл бұрын

Yea correct that whole situation seems like something left out. Any teacher married to student weird. Hate to think or reply about deceased she was not all in reality what were those jobs after lawyer. Now Tom was a murderer no doubt. It was strange seems like everyone trying to cover up unknown.

This is a difficult one. The guy was extremely unlikeable, but he seems to have been convicted and sentenced to life based upon very little.

Larry is a super nice guy and he honoring her memory by helping victims of domestic violence. Thank you Larry.

If one person wants kids and the other doesn’t, the relationship is over. Period. There is no compromise in that situation. It’s too bad she didn’t walk away and find happiness the minute she decided she wanted to be a mother instead of staying with the scumbag she chose for fatherhood. 💔

@longwong8311

Жыл бұрын

But she didn't stay with him?

@uhsaywhatnow

Жыл бұрын

@@longwong8311 she definitely had a kid with him though.

@drewasciutto8547

Жыл бұрын

@@uhsaywhatnow Had a kid, then cheated on him at some fantasy healing convention. Then tried to take his daughter away to live with the man she destroyed their family with. What a woman.

@Rebecca-hc5ju

Жыл бұрын

​@@drewasciutto8547 the daughter who he clearly did not want otherwise *parents* would have never had custody!! Nor would he had been at the police station voluntarily for 10 hours!! Don't you think any halfway decent father would want to be consoling his daughter after her mother was brutally murdered?!!

@mirror0images

Жыл бұрын

he wanted kids in the beginning when it seems she didn't, but after thirteen years and being older I also wouldn't suddenly want children

As I continue watching these true crime documentaries, I realize 2 things: 1) horrible/ tragic murders happen to the most nicest, wonderful people 2) it’s always the people closest to you that commit the horrible act. It’s scary…..

@diaryofarealmom3264

Жыл бұрын

It’s not always people closest to you. I would say half and half. Also, a lot of those people are innocent… every single one of us should be scared to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, or just happen to be mad at someone and they god forbid get killed.

@aruglaempire2518

Жыл бұрын

@@diaryofarealmom3264 Sure, be a convicted murderer apologist. Make you feel better???

@commonsense5892

Жыл бұрын

A cheater is a nice person?

@adathomas8604

Жыл бұрын

3) If a person seems to good to be true, he/she probably is...

@BubbyBold

Жыл бұрын

How was she a good person?

By the way how's OJ doing with his search for the real killer? I remember him vowing to never rest until they are found and he'll do everything he can to find them and bring them to justice.

Wow this was a tough one! I’ve no doubt that he’s guilty. He had cuts to his hand, very strong motive, her injuries were very personal but was the evidence there? I’d hate to be on that jury.

@jillplatte6370

8 ай бұрын

A life sentence with no evidence besides circumstantial? It's outrageous really. They never pursued any other leads either.

@StofStuiver

28 күн бұрын

Theres no evidence at all. So the only outcome should be to set him free.

Just want to say you guys do a wonderful documentary. I don’t get to watch them but as a truck driver, I listen to them and truly wonderful job ❤

@miranda13c

Жыл бұрын

Stay safe on the roads! ❤

@laswan5

Жыл бұрын

Stiles C ~ My dad was a trucker. He was born in 1927. He knew every inch of his rig and exactly where it was. That always impressed me. I wonder...do they still talk on CB radios? 🛻🚚 but I didn't see a semi. No US flag either.

@joez.2794

Жыл бұрын

Shows like this where you don't necessarily need to see the screen (and no commercials!) are the only thing I can fall asleep to. Stay safe indeed! 🙂

@brielliott04

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! It’s nice to be able to see when they read the guilty verdicts, but simply listening is more than engrossing. And by they way, thanks for safely listening while driving out there, too often your line of work is under appreciated especially as consumer expectations for immediate delivery grows. Stay safe out there and thanks for your hard work!

@Truckerstiles

Жыл бұрын

@@laswan5 oh yeah people still use CB radios out here

The ex-husband is insufferable in that police interview. I don't know how Carmen even stood him for a moment to date and marry him. I hope her daughter is doing well now.

@hands-to-work1601

Жыл бұрын

Narcissists can be very charming when they want to be. It's easy to fall for them and not realize what's going on on the inside. At first.

@Purplenpinkk

Жыл бұрын

@@hands-to-work1601 I don't know - I mean he has to be a narcissist, but not charming, at all.

@nicolaxoxo1

Жыл бұрын

There’s many comments saying the daughter, Ciara, killed herself at age 16 y😢

@Purplenpinkk

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolaxoxo1 No?! Really? That is so sad. Poor child.

It's obvious how kind Larry was. He had kind eyes!

He's so full of it. He didn't even want his daughter. How terrible for her.

@geennaam4576

Жыл бұрын

So bc HER family. The family of the cheater, daid that. It means its true?

@ABC-ed8cg

15 сағат бұрын

Let’s be reasonable here. She also shouldn’t have cheated. Tom was just getting back at her.. Would you feel angry if your spouse cheats on you? Don’t act like you’re holier than thou & won’t try to get back at him/her..

The murderous husband's grandiosity in the interview is something else!

The way he is staring in the camera and smirking in all the wrong moments gives me the creeps.

Thank you 48 hours , so much to cover, and yet 48 hours has allways delivered true fact and clear speaking journalist!

I remember watching this episode years ago, a very long time ago. And what immediately stood out to me were his creepy eyes. He had an incredibly creepy, very cold look in his eyes, just look at him at 1:30 - 1:35. I'd be afraid to be with him from the get-go. Some of us just have an intuition.

@El_.5794

Жыл бұрын

The eyes is the window/ mirror to the soul.

@jodybobo

9 ай бұрын

I agree.

I knew he was guilty when he broke his mask and smirked when the fiancé said he was about to move to town to be with her. It was like he was saying “haha and now you can’t”. The fiancé was ready to drop everything for her like she truly deserved and honestly that’s what got to that loser. He was losing her, possibly his daughter and control he wishes he still had. She was so brave to move on and find happiness away from a man like that because he probably tried to break her down for years and you can just tell from his interrogation he gets off on feeling like he is intellectually superior. He loves to gaslight and run circles for hours feeling like he’s a cat with a mouse on the run. No matter what he thinks he did to her she is and always will be free from him while he rots in prison because guess what. Now that basket case can’t do to his daughter what he tried to do to his wife. She will always be her butterfly and flying angel 💜

@invisigal007

Жыл бұрын

Not asking how she died, or ask for any details, when the police informed him of her death.

@pamelafrye4667

Жыл бұрын

AMEN 🙏 🙏 🤲 🙏 🤲 🙏 🤲 🙏 🤲

@NiecieSavo

Жыл бұрын

That's just editing film to fit the narrative. I'm not convinced with zero physical evidence. I think they had tunnel vision and locked him up so they wouldn't have to bother looking for whose blood and shoe print at the crime scene that was.

@jennypockets

Жыл бұрын

Seemed to me that he wanted his daughter just to thumb his nose at the family. I've known people like that, more interested in spite than what's right.

@krisquigley4497

Жыл бұрын

@@NiecieSavo Bruised wrists from cutting a pineapple?

Tom loved the sound of his own voice! a good respectful upload, I hope Carmen's child is doing well and the family are healing. Rip Carmen

@pinkpugginz

Жыл бұрын

his interrogation made me sick

@fredajordan5704

Жыл бұрын

@@pinkpugginz me too. and then this sweater.....

@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Larry did it 100%

@cyankirkpatrick5194

Жыл бұрын

I actually know several people like this.

@fastinbulvis2223

Жыл бұрын

It's so sick and invasive how they film off of this. US is such a sick country.

Carmen came from a beautiful family. Wow! Carmen and Larry looked like soulmates. Horrible situation. It's always best to leave without warning. Sad

scary to think you could be convicted on so little evidence.

Very sad. What a loving family to raise her daughter.

@DMEseter

Жыл бұрын

She killed herself at 16 rip

@JoannaZhang-fi9wu

Жыл бұрын

@@DMEseter It's shocking and sad.

@molliemae6855

Жыл бұрын

🙄

@camillegray8108

Жыл бұрын

@@DMEseter this is very sad! Thank you for this information. Just wondering on how did you find out.

Dude had nerve to say, “I am tickled to death…”

The worst thing that can happen to a mother is to bury their child. I speak from experience.

@thegreatselkie6009

10 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry… 💔

That’s a messed up verdict . Scares me for my “justice”

What a scary point in any womans life. So very sad. Any relationship started before the previous one is over is a bad situation.

@cleopatraoatcake7364

Жыл бұрын

Except that it happens all the time.

@Terot856

Жыл бұрын

If only there was a thing called accountability or something 😂

@carolyn6001

Жыл бұрын

@@Terot856 truth. I neglected to mention.. leaving a relationship is the scary point. Personally i have never left my husband nor even had a point i even thought to, but in a bad relationship the leaving point is the bad part.

@voyaristika5673

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it isn't wise.

@lulu-iz7bv

Жыл бұрын

Yes, yes, yes! I just don't understand how otherwise smart women do something so dumb. When you cheat and then rub salt into the wound by moving the child away--and then you move the boyfriend you cheated with and dumped the husband for into the home with the child... It is like swimming in the shark tank with a bloody finger.

The cuts and bruises on his hands and wrists says everything

@wa2k99

2 ай бұрын

No DNA or fingerprints

Wow! I feel like he did it but there was so much reasonable doubt!

When after the verdict, he chose the words "I remain nonplussed" to describe his feelings at that moment, says so much about his personality. Yes, he is an English prof, but it came across so academic and arrogant. 😣

I'll never understand why folks can't just move on. You didn't even want the child in the first place. Now look!

@EJ-74

Жыл бұрын

He never wanted a child before or after he just wanted to torture Carmen once they split up!!!

@Terot856

Жыл бұрын

Men are told to do the right thing all their lives. Just because u dont want a child doesnt change ur duty once one is born.

@LittleLouieLagazza

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@carolinaamnell5577

Жыл бұрын

It is a matter of control. Many people end up killing their partners even without having kids on their own. "If you arent mine, nobody will have you" line of thought

@dogbsas

Жыл бұрын

what if he later loved the kid? whats the problem with that?

How could anyone even buy the excuse that those hand wounds were caused by "slicing a pineapple"?? Bruised wrists? Carmen was likely grabbing them to keep him from striking her. I am glad the jury did the right thing. Justice was served.

@pamelafrye4667

Жыл бұрын

IKR???!!!! The detectives SHOULD have arrested him IMMEDIATELY right then & there!!!!!! SMDH....

@cerealrakist7360

Жыл бұрын

Then how come there was none of his dna found there? If he sliced himself during the crime then his dna would had been left behind , or did he magically Manage to not bleed out despite being cut ?

@seekingtruth1110

Жыл бұрын

@@cerealrakist7360 yeah that part for sure is a mystery. I'm not convinced he did it but I do think he may have hired someone to. I don't know how he could have done it and them not find any dna whatsoever or even under her fingernails.

@carmensaify

Жыл бұрын

I have cut up many pineapples-and generally they do not fight back...so how would uncut yourself?!

@thomasgentry6201

Жыл бұрын

We know he did it. But he was being used by Carmen she was a horrible person.

I honestly would of said not guilty! There is enough reasonable doubt!

It’s funny how parents refuse to see their children for who they truly are because we love our children so very much There’s good, bad and ugly in most everyone and everything.

Tom said he cut his fingers and bruised his wrists cutting up a pineapple. That's enough for me.

Not the first time we've heard the murderer was googling stuff like that for a book!!😂 Just Saying. 😮😳🤔🤦‍♂️🤷‍♀️

@lindseyyoung9149

Жыл бұрын

I immediately thought of Nancy Brophy. Haha. She was something else!

@McPierogiPazza

Жыл бұрын

And surely he's never published fiction before or we would have heard about it

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

Seems to be a theme in real crime

@hands-to-work1601

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't prove anything without additional evidence.

God bless the prosecutor for her very hard work. God bless the family and blessing on them for being able to raise the victims daughter. Rip Carmen

Thank you for sharing! So glad they got justice!!

When her Dad said, ' Tom, you're too good to be true,' - that was the FIRST red flag 💯 of the narcissist he was.

When Angela hugged Carmen’s family, I cried. Great job!

The most important thing. Is the victim received justice. Her precious child will be taken care of. By her loving family together. The victim's lover seems like an up standing guy. Very tragic that they didn't get the chance. To establish their union.

After 2 hours, he could have said, "I'm not answering anymore questions. I want a lawyer". He might be a free man right now.

I've watched a metric ton of true crime documentaries. Some have taken place in places I lived or very close to where I live currently. This is the first to actually occur where I was, when I was there. Strange feeling, knowing you may have sat in a booth across from them at the local diner or given them a polite smile in the grocery store. I hope Carmen is able to rest peacefully, knowing her beautiful daughter is being raised by her loving and dedicated family.

@alicenelson8657

Жыл бұрын

Aaraar😢@4xfeqqq 41:31 41:31 41:31

@pamelafrye4667

Жыл бұрын

AMEN 🙏 🙏 🤲 🙏 🤲 🙏 🤲

@NiecieSavo

Жыл бұрын

Her family just wanted the kid and they didn't care who they locked up to meet that end. This case was flimsy at best.

@Little_Red_Riding_Hoodlum

Жыл бұрын

@Niecie Even if you're correct, it doesn't negate the fact that they love their daughter/sister and granddaughter. Also, if you notice, I at no time mentioned guilt or innocence. Your position/opinion may be valid. Your comment is misplaced.

@hectorherbert6585

Жыл бұрын

1000 kilogrammes.

Just started watching, but I'm recognising Tom's narcissism already. (Once a person seems too good to be true, then they are. ) That's a huge red flag!! Covert narcissists seem charismatic and charming, but in fact, they are very manipulative and vindictive. I get it that the family finds it confusing, but narcissism generally is. May Carmen RIP. 🙏

@margaretwhittaker2291

Жыл бұрын

I concur!! Also, made me think of the saying; "Still waters run deep". For me, I felt uneasy at the coldness in his eyes, even in photos taken as a young man, like there was something missing.

@Sckvictor

Жыл бұрын

@Margaret Whittaker yes, that's one of the giveaways - their eyes are cold, which mirrors their soul. Very sad!

@davidwoermansr

Жыл бұрын

If being good and treating someone right in a relationship is a red flag what's the point in treating them right

@BBB-rd2qi

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwoermansr - You might be a narcissist. You don’t know her treated her right! You only know what he chose to show the world. After working with victims of narcissistic abuse for ten years, it is a easy to spot the cold dead eyes.

@donbirkholz6842

Жыл бұрын

In his sentencing he talks about the daughter "I" brought into this world.

This case is absolutely devastating. I couldn't and pray i never have to sit and look at pictures of a loved one brutally murdered. I am beyond impressed.. that all the family came. Stopped their whole life to be there for this sweet woman. Imagine the type of woman and family she had to have had to have such support in death. Let alone while living. It is a family relationship ive never had and pray for in life. ❤ prayers for her family and that baby girl. 😢😢😢

There's definitely reasonable Doubt. We are missing tons of information

Do I feel like he did it? Yes. Was there enough evidence for a conviction, absolutely not.

@girlygal098

Жыл бұрын

Computer searches will get you every time.

OG the woman gets stabbed and the ex-husband has bandages on his hand. How stupid does he think investigators are

@ariloves10

Жыл бұрын

Intellectuals think they are smarter than everyone else, hence, 'the pride before the fall'

@bautistalover

Жыл бұрын

The only problem was no dna at the scene at all. So those cuts can’t be related. If he was hurt enough to require bandages they must’ve been some blood or skin cells left behind and there wasn’t. More likely he hired someone and hurt his hands doing something else.

@user-es9tj4xw5t

Жыл бұрын

@@bautistalover incorrect

@bautistalover

Жыл бұрын

@@user-es9tj4xw5t not incorrect. DNA doesn’t lie.

I cant believe they actually find him guilty without no evidence at all. Wow. This is injustice.

what a phenomenal job by the prosecuting attorneys, especially the assistant DA. she was so passionate, and her caring is what won that case.

@haydn-db8z

10 ай бұрын

Because it sure wasn't the evidence. 😀

"I never wanted Carmen dead. I wanted her reasonable." Probably didn't intend on killing her, but when she told him her bf was moving in with her & their daughter that to him wasn't reasonable. Multiple cuts on his right hand & both wrists were bruised...tells me they absolutely have the right man in prison. He had the means, the motive & the opportunity & who else would've had that, but him!

@emilymulcahy

Жыл бұрын

The two foot prints at the crime scene that don't match him give me pause though

@patrinajasso5689

Жыл бұрын

No teacher should be looking or being with their students. That's Red Flag number 1. Number 2 just being that nice. There's no way anyone's that nice. its called the mask. Its what they want u to see than behind closed doors u have no idea how they really are. its to trick u so when they do bad u wont think they did it. I don't get how no one can understand that. of course its the guy u don't think can do it. wake up people.

@ivydickson7596

Жыл бұрын

I want her reasonable, meaning, I want her to do what I want.

@grandmarkdc6298

Жыл бұрын

YES -- that and he did not ask anything about how she died! He said "do we have to do this now" --- he is either insane, or that shows he did it or hired someone to do it.

@sharpedge3355

Жыл бұрын

I truly appreciate the saying that "an absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence".

I hope you all have a wonderful day ❤️. Thank you 48 for being the voice for all the victim's 🕊️🕯️

@NennieC123

Жыл бұрын

☀️ ❤

@9sheri9

Жыл бұрын

@Meranda Smith I hope you have a wonderful day as well 💕🤗

@sheilae.9670

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dear, you too! Have a great day ❤❤

@rlynnstaab4456

Жыл бұрын

You all as well 😊

@reyannecopus6624

Жыл бұрын

I hope you have a beautiful day ❤ and 48 is a voice for all

Feel happy that I came across these documentaries. The narratives are more investigative, than gory. More mind than brazen brawn. Addiction that I love . For sure.

Man, I dont know why, but I cried with this family.

Tom has such crazy eyes.

@margaretwhittaker2291

Жыл бұрын

my very first thought.

@girlygal098

Жыл бұрын

Narcissist's eyes.

@Lady_Angela1

Жыл бұрын

🤪

GUILTY! GOOD JOB JURY

Absolutely no evidence yet 12 people “regular people” get to say your guilty just because they feel your guilty (that’s scary) he may of killed her but he may of not also,imo he should of been found NOT guilty till they came up with some evidence