A look inside a water powered LED shower head.
Well this turned out to be a bit destructive.
It appears that the current version of generic LED shower heads are glued shut and the electronics are potted in hard resin.
This is great from a reliability perspective, but makes a teardown just a little more violent.
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One of my favorite Clive moments in any video: "Now, I'm not sure how to get this piece off, so I'll go ahead and pause the video.." *Cuts to the object in a thousand, brutally ripped apart pieces*
@Asif19871
5 жыл бұрын
Alex Drayko just the comment I was looking for haha!
@Karroe
2 жыл бұрын
*Cuts to a wide shot, the house burnt to a crisp, destruction as far as the eye can see, a dark smog has set upon the land* Right, that's me in now, we have...
Clive, can we see the video where you put the shower head back together again?
@maicod
8 жыл бұрын
+Gribbo9999 LOL
@armanelgtron4533
8 жыл бұрын
+Gribbo9999 Just play it in reverse!
@Gribbo9999
8 жыл бұрын
+armanelgtron Why didn't I think of that? Doh!
@adamdnewman
3 жыл бұрын
LOL !!!!
loved the transition from "sorry guys" ......and then the sound from the dremel. Nice vids . Keep it up :)
I must thank you for taking the time to take these things apart and show us how they work!
6:56 "they also make them with thermal sensors so the led change color according to the temperature which i think is pretty pointless" thats not pointless, thats GENIUS! if you want to just look at your shower head and know if water flowing through is cold or not.
@paulbrookfield4133
5 жыл бұрын
They're pointless in that they usually set the temperature thresholds really widely so you'll never see the 'hot' colour until you're pretty much using boiling water.
@jakubgrzybek6181
5 жыл бұрын
@@paulbrookfield4133 yea, my friend has it his sink, you never get right temperature and it starts flickering if it's in between the thresholds.
@scottryan7796
4 жыл бұрын
I have one of those, it also shows the temperature numerically on it with the colour. It’s pretty useful as I can see when it has warmed up or if it is too hot .
@aloysiussnailchaser272
4 жыл бұрын
We have two of these. Love them.
You calm my need to tear apart things to learn. Now I just tear things apart for salvage. Thanks for the education you provide for the future EE's!
"I'll just pause this for a wee moment" - sound of drilling, hammering, and "Dremel-ing" in the background" - then "Well, that was a wee bit challenging - All in the Name of Science" :-D"VERY Addictive, hence the 140,000 subscribers . . . .
@Solocat1
5 жыл бұрын
523.000 in 2019
No camera and 3g sim inside it then lol
@1hdsquad
8 жыл бұрын
+thingyee1118 Does that exist?
@thingyee1118
8 жыл бұрын
na I was just having a laugh.
@1hdsquad
8 жыл бұрын
+thingyee1118 Well, I would not have been surprised ;)
@thingyee1118
8 жыл бұрын
yea haha :P
@rich1051414
4 жыл бұрын
No, but totally disassembling the led shower head looking for the spy camera sounds like something a paranoid meth head would do.
I never knew they had shower heads with LED temperature readout until this video got me searching eBay! Thanks!
I bought a smaller version of this for a faucet ($0.99 eBay purchase since I was getting something from the buyer anyway), and it was terrible! It seriously restricted the water flow, so not only did the water come out way weaker than it should have, but the turbine made a TON of noise! It had the "motor speeding past what it was made for" sound and it vibrated the whole sink. It did have one interesting feature (which you ended up mentioning). It switched to blue when the water was cold, green when warm, and red when hot using a temperature sensor. I think the idea was kids knew when it was okay to wash their hands.
Destructive is just how we like it and if we learn something in the process so much the better.
quote, unquote from big clive: sorry guys it's potted in *5 seconds later: buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz plastic everywhere* LOLOL
@dr666demento
6 жыл бұрын
You know he's getting serious when he brings in _two_ power tools :)
@pear7777
5 жыл бұрын
I knew it.
@kushfromhandsworth6601
4 жыл бұрын
That transition was amazing
@andrewradford6267
3 жыл бұрын
haha so true. :D
Some of those automatic motion sensing faucets are powered in a similar way, which charge a battery to store the power generated. Typically the failure mode for those is limescale building up on the turbine and housing, to the point where they bind against each other and the rotor will no longer turn to charge the battery.
"I'll be back in one moment!" Queue shot with drill
My very first thought was to spray it with compressed air and get it flying so fast that either the electrics let the pixies out or the whole thing flies apart.
Thanks for these videos Clive, they are really fun to watch, I love the fact that you even take the time to reply to comments!
your the only guy on youtube that does not see potting as a dead end
So much for the whole "that will last a long time" thing.
Neat! Thanks for explaining the 3-phase rectification - the diagrams help a lot in understanding what's going on.
Somehow I'm now imagining you trying to take a person apart and complaining about the difficulty
@shurdi3
8 жыл бұрын
big Clive in his new video "Hacking an appendix so it doesn't kill you anymore"
@SmolPotatowo
7 жыл бұрын
I'd hope he wouldn't have to use 'unreasonable force'...
@Shelek_Bearer
7 жыл бұрын
"At first I thought I'd be able to screw the ribcage open, then I tried the spudger, and then eventually I had to make a mess and use the hammer"
@jakubgrzybek6181
5 жыл бұрын
"This liver is in the way of right kidney, I hope I can get it without breaking it... I might pry it out in one piece, I don't know. Maybe if cut it in here and set the liver aside, so I can just connect it later."
@starlite556
5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a used one taken apart to see if there is a build up of mold in it which is why I clicked on the video.
For when you absolutely, positively HAVE to shower in the dark.
Clive, thank you for doing the lord's work. I wanna take apart so much in my house just to see how it works, but no way in hell can I afford to do that. Hoping to get a few tinkerer friends to add to your deserving sub count
"Where's my notepad?" Ahh, for every great KZreadr, a great tag line.
This is a man that NEVER give's up....Well done Clive.....I'm just wondering where they could put LED's next in something that moves....
omg thank you so much for doing this. this was exactly what I was looking for.
Amazing! I always wondered what would be inside such shower head or tap. Thanks!
Finally, someone who doesn't let a little goop intimidate him. :-)
Loved your determination! What a treat.
"Modest length of time and quite considerable violence later..." xD
The idea of a lawn sprinkler flashes through my head, or perhaps a fountain of some sort....
Recent sub, I thought of my dremel just when you transitioned to yours. Gotta love rotary tools :)
Clive, I am reminded of that great British statesman, Sir Winston Churchill. "We shall never give up!" Heh, heh... Great work, I have often pondered how those things work.
wow i just got 2 of these. ordered over a month ago could not pass them up for $3 a pop. installed one last night silent decently beight good flow. i hope i got the potted one like you have here as i really like it.
LMAO. I love when he censors his acts of violence then magically film cuts into the crime scene.
4:13 Why wasn't surprised Julian wasn't just going to let it go? Shards of plastic and the scream of dremel.
It works the same way the Garden LED Sprayers work. I bought 3 for fun, they had too much spread for my garden so I took them apart. Same thing, a magnet span round the coils hidden inside and rectified to drive a colour changing LED. I took them out and wired the tiny circuits in parallel to a 3 Ni-Mh battery pack for 3.6V and mounted them in square cable trunking. Now I have a funky colour changing light bar :D
Bet your trash bin is being closely watched by your local council :) Once again good video Clive
I love your determination
I've looked at those and wondered how they worked, thought they were battery powered or something, and now I know they're just a little water-turbine... :P
ya I bought the $75 one from Amazon 10" rain shower LED temp sensing unit. lasted for 9 months then the turbine broke. when I took it apart to remove the guts and keep the shower head it turned out the connecting rod with the plastic turbine on the end actually snapped clean off. not any of the electric parts LEDs are fine just the metal rod that runs into the motor broke. will be buying another one soon !!!
Bought a temperature indicating one, however it appears my (electric shower) restricts the water pressure too much. Would no doubt work excellently on either a pumped / combi-boiler system (tap) shower.
Why does anyone want or need an LED colour changing shower head? IDK but it was fun watching Big Clive tear one apart.
loved the taredown looks like it was well maid keep the vids comming following you all the time
been wondering how they work for some time now. & now I know. thanks..
Awesome, I didnt realise quite how destructive it would need to be, but you can always be relied upon to go the extra mile in the name of scientific investigations!! Nice description of the 3 phase circuit too. My unit from Aldi is still going strong after almost 6 weeks!! Not sure how long they will hold out in hard water areas though. When mine finally self destructs Im going to attack it with a hammer.
You are the Ashens for electronic devices.
Stick the LED bit onto a windmill for a pretty garden light :P
@jacesgarage658
8 жыл бұрын
It's not the led there's a dc moter in it which makes electity when it spins
@jacesgarage658
8 жыл бұрын
***** I READ IT WRONG opps caps I thaught he ment an old one
@georgeandrews4625
6 жыл бұрын
Omg this guy is too much!!!!!!
Hey do you have a video of the first one you opened? (or a picture of the type) Searched your page, didn't find one. I have one very similar but not this exact one, it's VERY difficult to open. I prefer not to crack it open if I don't have to. I'm curious if it is also a screw off. Thanks
0:32 guess I'll not have a heartbeat anymore
your experiments are great ,love electronics keep the tubes comming , "gaz wigan"
A very simple device that is explained in a very complicated and erratic way. What are all the plastic fragments supposed to represent?
Dear Clive , it seems that we sometimes forget that led can be use as retifiers , mostly in low voltage applications ...
Naaw , just at the point when I thought you were giving up and out comes the Dremel. :D
That small generator will produce square waves instead of sine waves. For generating sine wave, field coils should placed in an angle to the rotor.
"I'll be back in one mohment." ... /one mohment later/ Shower head is destroyed and various tools of destruction with bits of shower head entrails strewn about.
wonder if my faucet one is the same, payer 4$ for it and its still working after 8 months now
"that's me in now" yeah I have to say that as well...
I love the fake-out "well I guess that's the end of the road"....
I've got the thermo controlled ones, but the blue LEDs have stopped working when it's warm. Not completely as they flash a little just before red comes on, so they haven't blown. I think the controller is the problem, or maybe some part of the circuit has let water in. I have high pressure water and I'm guessing it found a weak spot after a year.
You had me going there for a second you. 😅
Thanks bro
I've been looking for one with a solid color Maybe warm or cold white
Actually every polymer absorbs water but such a simple circuit will take a lot of water before it will gives up.
thanks for the break-down XD
WHY YOU BREAK AWR ERECTRONICS!! YOU BAD!! I NO SEWR YOU NO MORE!! lol... i LOVE watching these, saves me from having to buy the junk just to deconstruct it myself :D
I just got one from Tiger. Its working now. Hopefully it'll last.
Thanks
Interesting breakdown. A bit like some washing machine drain pumps, but working in reverse as a generator. With its floating bearing/magnetic impellar & sealed electrics. The design should last very well with regular descaling. (Squirrel acid is a no no ha ha)
Hi Clive, is that an Edinburgh accent? I assume you are in the States by the type of mains plugs you show. Very easy listening!
You mentioned you had another LED shower head previously - what model was it?
I got a generator off ebay for 2.99 incl shipping claimed to be 10w .....yea with tap water pressure and very very clean water , one grain of dust in it and it gunked up and would no longer funtcion , so great for around 5mins ....thats how long it lasted. Exactly the same turbine as that one , very simple and works great but you might as well use it with di water.
maybe it's my eyes but sometimes I can't see your arm because of the color so it's interesting seeing your floating left hand work
@The1wsx10
7 жыл бұрын
i just looked because i never notice. i think its hard to see his sleeve if you don't have it full screen (as i typically do) because the bright white of the YT background contrasts so much that it makes it hard to see the sleeve. try full screen on the same frame and you can easily see his sleeve. edit: actually, it might be because of your monitor. LCD monitors image changes (very slightly in modern ones) depending on the angle you are looking at it from. its easier for me to see his sleeve if i sit up than if i slouch in my chair.
@mattshu
7 жыл бұрын
eeesh calling out my horrible posture ;)
@The1wsx10
7 жыл бұрын
heh
It should last quite well until Big Clive gets hold of it :-D
you could make a nice wind powered garden light with a little adaptation.
@bigclivedotcom
8 жыл бұрын
+christastic100 I've experimented with wind powered garden lights. But here the wind is either zero or 1000%. The device would either not be lit at night or it would be making loud siren noises before exploding.
@christastic100
8 жыл бұрын
Well your Dremel has replicated 1000% wind explosion 😁
It's great when right after a cut you see vises and powertools XD
tbh i like the concept
Amazon link???
In this video you mention having one that unscrewed. Which model was that. If I get one of these, I want one that can i screw so it can be cleaned. We get lots of calcium built up in our water here.
@bigclivedotcom
3 жыл бұрын
Many of the screw together, but it's a bit unpredictable which one you get.
Same as the led tap lights they last a year and then go phut when the potted resin stator wears out! Still great for the kitchen saves me putting the lights on at night and saves leccie - the tap led lights at 99p that is! lol Yip Scottish and tight as a gnats arse and proud!
i just bought one and it doesn't work at all! i am so disappointed. it said to take out the plastic seal and just hand tighten it on and will work... that's what i did and no lights when i turn on the shower. Paid $60. for it. Could it be a water pressure problem?? any help would be greatly appreciated~
mine stopped working. actually it worked for about 1 yr before it gave me problems. it would shine very dull. i tried to clean it and then it would work for about 2 seconds and stop. i opened it and found some brown stuff around the plastic where the magnet rotates and cleaned it off. it works like a charm. question is, will cleaning it with vinegar on a regular basis cause it to build up sooner?
@bigclivedotcom
8 жыл бұрын
+DemonLordOdin454 The brown stuff was probably just the usual goop that forms around sitting water. If it was easy to open then it might be worth just cleaning it inside every so often.
@VcArena
8 жыл бұрын
it wasnt that easy, and i glued it back pretty secure lol, not looking forward to that, but i dont want to spend another $15 either. darn hindsight, should have used silicone. but it was thin and wouldnt come off with just soapy water. i took a rough sponge and scrubbed it off. i also noticed that the magnet was coated with something black.
@bigclivedotcom
8 жыл бұрын
+DemonLordOdin454 If the electronics are potted, you might get away with a squirt of bleach into it and let it sit for a moment before rinsing it out again.
@VcArena
8 жыл бұрын
ill try that if it does stops working again. ill clean it every so often too.
@ken131
8 жыл бұрын
+DemonLordOdin454 I had one of these over a year and the pipe bit that screws into the shower cracked fell apart. But the head still works. I've kept it thinking I'll do something with it one day.
would it be possible to run a high lux LED indefinitely on a whole bunch of capacitors? like connect a AA battery for a few sec and run the light constantly?
@greenaum
7 жыл бұрын
What, you mean nothing to do with shower heads, just what you describe? In this case the capacitors would be acting like little rechargeable batteries. They'd charge up to the voltage of the battery, then discharge through the LED. I suppose if you had an utter ton of capacitors, it'd last a while. Of course you'd never get more energy out, or more light, than was in the battery to start with. The battery would provide a high current for a short period to charge your caps, then the caps would provide a lower current for a longer time. In general capacitors aren't good at storing large amounts of electricity, batteries are much better for that. So no, not indefinitely. It would be no better than just connecting the battery up directly.
Do these create the "Disko Piss" effect?
Do you ever take something to bits violently and end up liking the thing so much you wish you wouldn't have damaged it?
@bigclivedotcom
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that sometimes happens.
I've been wondering if it's possible to design a showerhead or an "in between device" capable of charging batteries. A showerhead hydro charger. Any ideas?
@bigclivedotcom
5 жыл бұрын
I've featured inline micro turbines in other videos. They all restrict water flow, and in the case of a showerhead you'd also have to consider the wet environment.
Ah these things.. safe? Like can they ever break, like a seal and water getting inside to cause shocks?
@bigclivedotcom
Ай бұрын
They are very low voltage.
the first drawing you made you mistaken on positif(+) and negatif(-), but we understand...diodes must have positif to go through it and not bump back against the wrong side.... but you know that...
Ooow i didnt know such toys existed :-D
4:06 "Sorry guys it's not really that much interesting it's potted in" *looks at the time, 3 minutes more to the video* Oh Well....
Is there a common turbine for half or 3/4in standard hookup???
@bigclivedotcom
8 жыл бұрын
Search my videos for turbine. There are at least two mini turbines on eBay.
5:54 Clive starts drawing a scary 3 eyed laughing monster wearing bifocals
It’s magnetic too
I didn't even know this was a thing. Now my inner 8 year old is throwing a tantrum because I don't have one! LOL
You took the shower head and the screwdriver that looks like a pen from Jumbo right? I have both of them :))
Well that was cool. Say, have you ever seen a PC fan hacked to be used as a generator?. I would imagine the blades would need to be extended so it would not require a full blown gale to drive the fan. As you pointed out these motors have a fixed winding and a rotating external field.
@bigclivedotcom
8 жыл бұрын
+Craig Nehring If you take the LED version of the PC fans outside on a very windy day you can make them light up if the wind spins them fast enough. It's not an ideal arrangement though. It dopes require a lot of wind and a good speed.
@craignehring
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was hoping to someday create some "urban lawn art" powered by the wind, sort of a solar LED thing but wind powered. I have, strangely enough, hundreds of case fans, most of them new and all of them ball bearing type. Hoarding can be dangerous thing ...
bigclive voids another warranty in the name of fun
second time you have drawn the diodes you put the signs inverse...
Little glue and it will be good as new!
Let's say an LED has 20mA forward current when given 2V to it. Will it still take only 20mA when connected to let's say a 10A 2V power supply? that kinda makes sense, doesn't it?
@bigclivedotcom
8 жыл бұрын
You can theoretically do that, but even a tiny voltage variation will result in a significant current variation. Especially with the older gallium arsenide style red LED technology.
@tennicktenstyl
8 жыл бұрын
bigclivedotcom thanks man, I get it. Seriously, don't bother responding to my comments, I'm kinda dumb lol.
Does that shower head decreases pressure much?
@bigclivedotcom
8 жыл бұрын
+Arek R. I'm not sure. My water pressure is so high it doesn't affect it.
@Arek_R.
8 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Arek_R.
8 жыл бұрын
Even if yes, its not a huge deal...
@SalahEddineH
8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Murarescu :D Love it. You should check out this: what-if.xkcd.com/91/ Powering your house on the faucet pressure :D. Plug your phone to your bathtub, to charge it while filling your bath :D