RIP David. Extremely sad we lost a genuinely talented and witty person. You'll be sorely missed David! God bless.

David was a true gentleman, a wise and thoughtful practitioner of photography who gave honest and well considered reviews of gear that he actually used. His voice will be missed. I do hope you keep this channel alive.

RIP David. I keep coming back to your videos.

I will never give up the hope that we are after dead in a peaceful area… thanks David for all the wonderful videos… rest in peace… !

Thank you so much David for everything. You changed my view of photography and my life. If the David Attenborough of photography is indeed resting may he rest in peace.

RIP from a Brazilian fan. Watched many of your videos when I started working with Micro 4/3. You introduced me to great unkown Chinese lenses like the Laowas ultra wides. Hope you get great photos from up there in the sky. You will be missed, JP

RIP David. Thanks for the lessons and wisdom

After reading David's review, I bought it and love it. Thank you David for all of your videos. You have been a bright spot in mine and many others lives. Take care of yourself. I wish you the best.

Excellent video as always and so good to hear from you again, always informative

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Martyn.

Good video! Always enjoy your thoughts on equipment. Hope you and loved ones are well. Thanks for the video.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Kent. And may I return the good wishes!

Love your VLOGs David. You’re a great champion for MFT so please keep up your good work 👍

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I hope to, Petet. Thank you.

Another in a long line of first-rate reviews, David. After grabbing an early copy of this one, I wound up in the said 10-25-45 prime situation which forced yet another kit adjustment. I unfortunately parted ways with a sharp 15mm 1.7 due to a growing addiction to this Laowa (and a good mobile phone) as a solid lower-light, wide complement to a new 14-140 II (replacing P14-42 II + 45-150). Thanks for your practical, real-world reviews that encourage us to go out and take pictures instead of getting wrapped-around-the-axle in tech specs.

Excellent review. I’m glad you’ve brought this lens to my attention, it’s made my list on lenses to consider once i have the funds available.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jon. Alaways good to have something to look forward to.

Thank you David for all your work! I hope you get well soon!

@leonardkeanu8379

2 жыл бұрын

i guess im asking the wrong place but does anyone know a method to get back into an instagram account? I was dumb lost my account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me

@carterandy7202

2 жыл бұрын

@Leonard Keanu Instablaster :)

I love your reviews and think i might have watched all of them. I might just be one of your biggest fans. I highly respect your opinion and see it as very trustworthy and helps me making a decision. Thank you for everything you do for us!

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I can only count myself lucky to have viewers like you - thank you!

Thank you David, you have inspired me to be a better photographer.

I always get a lot from your videos. Going to order this one.

Strongly considering this lens among a few options to extend my current focal range beyond 14mm. Your assessment is very helpful. Thanks!

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that, thanks.

David! It’s great when a professional like yourself talks about non-OEM lenses for m43. I always wonder about them and their actual quality and performance. Well done 🥇

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ricardo. It's often the non OEMs who make the most intersting lenses, oes not financially viable for the big boys.

Life is fleeting. Enjoy it and absorb it like David did

Another nice review, thanks David. I’ve never seen a Laowa lens but it looks well made. It’s great what is being produced. Great you didn’t chuck the box out! It didn’t look like it had any barrel distortion which is great.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I think that any barrel distortion is dialled out automatically in software. Wahtevr, there is none to speak of, as you say. Glad you liked the review, thanks, Malcolm.

God bless David Thorp!

Great video David! Interesting Lens!

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thinking Aloud...Thinking ALaowa...Great Find and demo...! Thank You David.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Jacob!

Ah, I was hoping you'd review this! :)

Nice one , and F2 makes such a big difference video grain wise in dimly lit rooms on mft compared to 2.8 . great unboxing David and great info about sharp at 2.2 , thanks very much and so glad you still have the G9 . enjoy the spring .

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all that MinorRhoad's!

@minorrhoads5318

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT cheers 👍

I bought this lens and rushed out to try it on my Panasonic GX9. When I arrived at the building mural I wanted to photograph, I was surprised not to see the GX9 ask me its focal length to set stabilization. Then I looked for the aperture ring and realized it was gone as well. The mural shoot went very well and I pixel peeped my photos and was pleasantly surprised at the details revealed by this lens. This is a gem. Yes I would also like autofocus, but this kind of lens, manual focus-auto everything else, seems to be a new category. I like this category and want to see more. Nice review.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Your experience is exactly the same as mine, John. I'm glad you liked the review but especially pleased that you agree with it.

If I could write a comment as neat as you do content, can "perfect" say it all for me. Thank you David.

We miss you David. Hope your family is doing well.

Just learn David passed away. RIP David, you will be missed.

I bought one for airborne and landscape shots.. very happy with it. Mine came in a nice leather satchel. M43 contacts allow me to run it in AF on my OM5 mk3. Please post more on your take on this lens. Thank you!

Hi David-- Thanks for keeping us up to date on what's going on in the MFT world. I just bought the Panasonic 8-18,,but,,,I can already see where these small ,wide primes could easily burrow themselves into your heart ,,,and your camera bag. While watching this, I was just thinking how cool it would be if they would step up and make it an AF--Just as you suggested it in the video... Still,, I appreciate how companies continue to support this "dead" (sarcasm intended) sensor format....Best to you...

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Small primes do have a charm but zooms like the 8-18 are just so practical. All the best to you too, Clint.

Rest in peace David. You will be missed.

A perfect focal length for landscape and more.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

Hi David, this is what happens when you decided to do one of those “awful unboxing videos” a short while ago ... the next lens hides itself! 😎 Great to see you posting again, Rich

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Rich! After the drama of the act of unboxing I feel the testing of the lens is unnecessary. a bit of an anti-climax so in future will feature the box opening only. My next video of, say, a Panasonic GH6, will feature me being pulled across the Sahara Desert in an open topped wagon by a camel train at sunrise. 1000 white horses will thunder by raising a sandstory and there, in the heart of the sand storm in my wagon, I will be there, backlit, unboxing the camera.

@JeevesTCW

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT :-))))

@JeevesTCW

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT well David the GH6 is finally released. How I wish you were still with us and we could here your voice again. You have been in my thoughts on many occasions this last year. RIP.

Hit the nail on the head. Have been trying to make a 20-40-75 equivalent set. Sony has all three, as does Pentax with the limited series. Fuji has the 75, but then 35, which means the zeiss 18(12) would be needed for spacing. Am in mft now, would totally pick this one up if it has autofocus.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Practically speaking, I doubt that Laowa are considering autofocus. But who know?

Your videos are always a charm to watch. You wouldn't have to but you go the extra mile with the stopmotion cut scenes and they make a world of difference. Ever since finding your channel i have hoped you would take a spin at voigtländers mft f0.95 lenses. They are lenses you don't use for performance but rather character. I believe you would enjoy one. I have the 17,5mm and absolutely love it

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I'll try speaking to Voigtlander. Interesting lenses, that's for sure.

This might be the perfect lens for my walking tours.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

It's certainly a good candidate for the job.

I don't shoot micro four thirds anymore, but I always enjoy your reviews. I just wanted to mention there is a typo in your title, and it might affect your seo. Have a great day.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

The typo is corrected! Thanks for pointing that out, much appreciated. Glad you enjoy the reviews still.

I like every one of your you tube videos. With the Panasonic GH5 and GH5S, can I change frame rates WHILE I'm recording video? Thank You

Hmmmm, that would fit nicely between my 3.5 and 7.5 and my 15, and 16mm primes :-) I had a few opportunities for the 7.5mm Laowa in the last few days, but the 14mm end of the super zoom was close enough that I didn't bother. Today my 75mm Olympus got a GH5 slamming it into some carpet from above. The plastic lens cap was 50% embedded on one side, but I forced it out and it still works, as does the lens itself. Can't see any damage and it's still sharp and fast to get there. Lucky break!

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

That was lucky! Mind you the modern lenses are pretty tough and sustain a drop better than the old film days of all metal construction. 10mm is a usful focal lnth, very iwde but no extreme.

When I got my 5D (mk1) ten or so years ago, I got a trifecta of primes as well: 20mm / f1.8 50mm / f1.8 85mm / f1.8 Cannot go slower than f1.8 ever since :D. f2 would do, I suppose. Wanna get a M43 kit soon. Thanks for your work.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, K M. I agree about f/1.8, though I generally stop down to f/2. It's a small step but especially with Micro Four Thirds lenses it brings them to or near to best performance. With the quality of today's lenses, Micro Four Thirds or FF you can use them wide open without qualms, though. It was not always so!

Good video. I’m debating between the Laowa 10mm or the 9mm for MFT. Your voice sounds exactly like a guy named Ian Craig who does microphone reviews on KZread. I thought you were him. 😀

The video thumbnail looked like a front end shot of the Enterprise from StarTrek 😄😎

It's always nice to see Feathers McGraw doing his thing.. but it makes me think of that never-ending song that rattles around your brain. :)

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I don't really want McGraw in my videos but he threatens my lighting man, camera op, focus puller, sound man, all my crew if i don't script him in. Just plain evil and a disgrace to chickens everywhere. Or should that be penguins?

@Clickumentary

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT haha only to penguins wearing rubber glove disguise 😊

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

@@Clickumentary 😀😀

I've been wondering about this one! I rarely shoot wide since I find the 24-equivalent on my 12-40 2.8 too boring/"normal" (in the age of phone cameras having about that focal length), and ultra wide doesn't really appeal to me - 20mm looks like a very interesting middle ground, more novel than a 24 without the obscene perspective of an ultrawide. Much like taking a lens out and about to test, it's also a bit hard to go in to test one in a store right now.. that'll just have to wait a bit.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I like 10mm for the reasons you say. Not so wide as to render totally exaggerated results but wide enough to be interesting. Yes, alwaya a proble with thje non OEM makers to get a test example.

I find myself distracted by the beautifully clear video quality.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

That's nice to hear - not that you were distracted but that you thought it was good. My head is a little bigger now!

Why take the aperture ring off the lens. Aperture on the lens is always easier than changing aperture on the body. Especially in street photography where you want to stealthily set aperture and zone focus on the lens before bringing the camera to eye level.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I think, though, that most will prefer to control aperture via the camera body. For street work, I usually set aperture to f/4 or 5.6 on my 17mm and siatance to 2m or so and don't alter it, essentially I don''t mind whether the control is on the camera or the body. You make a good point, thopugh.

@artistjoh

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT This is why the modern practice of putting an A setting on an aperture ring is a good thing - those who prefer to use body control can, and those who prefer to use the ring are also kept happy.

Just picked up a lumix-g 25mm f1.7 asph last january and im really liking it so far, great depth of field, my wide angle is the meike 12mm f2.8, for some reason when i do an amazon search for venus laowa 10mm f/2 it doesent show up at all, the closest one is the 9mm f/2.8 zero-d for m43

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

There are all kinds of supply problems with the UK due to Brexit but I think you are in the USA. I'll see if I can find anything out.

@ArcticGator

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT i thought maybe they have it described differently or something for the us market as opposed to uk

@david, i ran into problems with this Laowa 10mm using BMPCC4k. If i take videos or pictures from >2 ft, i can't focus sharp (it's not just soft in the center, but blurry). I tested it with Lumix GH5 with no issue, using similar settings (ISO 1600, f2), and also using each permutated aperture setting. I reported to Laowa support with test videos (@ as proof. They don't think it's their lens issue, but it's with BMPCC4K. If I use this lens for close-up, either indoors or outdoors videos / photos, or Do you encounter a similar sharpness issue? thanks

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

No, I came across nothing like that, Ray. If the lens works properly on one Micro Four Thirds mount it should work on any other. It sounds like a problem with the flange distance, maybe?

HI David - Great review. I also just got a copy of this 10mm and I agree with everything you said. I got it to convert my G85 into a deluxe GoPro and to always have everything in focus. The lens works great on my G9 and my daughters GX80, but wow -- it makes my G85 hang whenever I start/stop video (hangs for 10 seconds). Perhaps semi-manual has a downside and it has electrical issues?. I am trying to get a fix from the supplier in china......... apart from that its a very nice lens, but I am bummed it seems not to work properly with the G85.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't got a G85 but the lens works as expected on my E-M10 Mark IV , GX9 and G9. In theory, if it works on one camera, it ought to wok on all, Micro Four Thirds being a standard. Whatever, the supplier should sort it out.

@rwillia2001

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT As an update to my comment -- after some email bumping Laowa customer support got back to me and set me up for an RMA'd update. The lens went from firmware 0.4 to 0.5 and now it works great on my cameras. So Thanks to Laowa for sorting me out, and it is a fantastic little lens. Finally, I add my voice to say I will really miss David and his inspiring channel. A rare oasis of charm and solid gold pro quality,

Run chicken Run Wallace and Gromit are extremely jealous

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

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I reckon go up in 5mm at a time: 10mm 15mm 20mm 25mm Then jump to double: 42.5mm 90mm our 100mm 100-400mm zoom

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

That's an awful lot of lenses to carry, Brian!

What's better for the price? This or the Olympus 12mm?

@alang253

3 жыл бұрын

the difference between 10 and 12 is pretty big and hard to compare

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

@@alang253 I agree. Most photographers will have a 12mm in the form of a standard zoom so the 10mm is better. I had the Olympus 12 mm for some time but given the choice....it'd have to be the 10mm. But, as ever with modern lenses, no bad choice possible.

@alang253

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT Yes I had been shooting normal focal lengths from 12-100 for the past 5+ years. Recently picked up a 8-18 and that 8-11mm is an entire world apart from my 12-35. Whereas going from 300 to 400 hardly makes much of a difference on the long end.

🤣🤣 great intro

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Photography can get get a bit po faces so I do like to lighten things with a bit of humour. Glad you liked it!

@unbroken1010

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT I'm trying to decide between OMD EM1 Mark II maybe a G9 or a GH4 but I do like the Fuji xs10 trying to figure out a nice light walk around for photography and video definitely want headphone and Mic jack

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

@@unbroken1010 For lightness, the Olympus. For all round video capability, the G9. The Fuji I don't really know so I'm not much help. If you intend to have a range of lenses, Micro Four Thirds is outstanding for choice, unmatched outside FF. The lens system is as important as the body, more so, some would say.

@unbroken1010

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidThorpeMFT thanks for replying I don't think it's that much difference in weight the price drop both the Olympus m1 mark 2 and G9 seem to be in the same price range. About a grand. It's the only one GH4 is on sale open box for I think five or six hundred. I have the Leica Panasonic 25 mm and 50mm. I also own plenty of vintage glass that can be adopted. I have the old OMD 10 Mark II but it doesn't do 4K and no mic port. Out of the Olympus and the G9 which one was more user-friendly? Which had a edge on film like colors for stills especially portraits and documentary? Watching a few videos as usual seems like everybody's pushing sales gear and not honest opinions.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

@@unbroken1010 The G9 is the more user friendly in terms of the menus. On colours, for video they are a little different but I wouldn't say better or worse and most users would want to tweak them a bit anyway. For stills, the Olympus's jpg output is very pleasing, especially for landscapes but otherwise it's a matter of taste. The fact is that given either camera to use, you would not find either lacking. Both are great cameras in their own right. Personally, for video, I see the Olympus as having video added on while the G9 is a true hybrid and that would be my choice.

Short lens = short video?

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

Something in that, I think, Gordon!

Lol, you missed the lens tucked in a corner of the box! Pretty sloppy packaging if you ask me. This is the perfect lens for those who covet the Olympus 12mm f/2 but can't quite bring themselves to blow that kind of cash when you already have a perfectly good 12mm on your 12-40... I think I may get one to replace my 9-18.

@DavidThorpeMFT

3 жыл бұрын

If you are like me with my Panasonic 8-18, I tend to use it at widest nearly all the time. The 10mm f/2. would be a great substitute if you prefer a prime.

Now I'm confused from choosing this lens or 7.5mm one, despite knowing what I want to shoot, lol

@paulplus3830

3 жыл бұрын

I got the 7.5 already, so this video was just entertainment. :)

@8thom00

3 жыл бұрын

Well, the field of view is VERY different, and the 7.5mm has quite a lot of barrel distortion, so it depends on use and whether you want to post-process afterwards (in case you're shooting for instance architectures). I had the 7.5mm and was happy with that, but I eventually sold it because in urban scenarios (for what I do) I couldn't bear non-straight lines.

@Durio_zibethinus

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulplus3830 woah, good for you then

@Durio_zibethinus

3 жыл бұрын

@@8thom00 I may use it for landscape or astro, but since I'm a city folk and we're still in a hard time for picnic, lowkey I just want to push m43 sensor to its widest capability haha

@paulplus3830

3 жыл бұрын

@@Durio_zibethinus Yes, me too, and I don't mind the distortion, it makes the pictures rather interesting. And if it's not fitting, you can correct it. But it's so wide, you need to watch your fingers and the lens hood. Once I screwed the lens hood not properly on and it showed up in the pics. I enjoy the little thing. :)

Why?? The so called 'good' of the 7.5mm is wide!

Interesting review, but boring presentation. The 'voice over' needs to be a bit brighter and less of a monotone.

@erictaada6967

3 жыл бұрын

2 score and more years shooting, 7 years promoting M43, understated but with wit. Comments noted but not highly valued.