Grab your PDF with both solos here▶️ www.getyoursaxtogether.com/latenightai

No one would suspect its AI hearing A alone. But on comparison, its obvious B's punches and articulations can only can only be this masterly achieved by a human.

@lonwoogmail

Жыл бұрын

I wish that were true. Sadly this is the crappiest ai will ever be. Its just hoing to get better and better.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

It will be interesting to see where it goes

@kinoglaz777

Жыл бұрын

I think there's absolutely NO need of comparison to understand that the A is an A...I. It's evidently not improvising and repeats a maths scheme even when It doesn't appears evident. The rhythmics and beats follow too much the line of the base if you listen them in relation. Absolutely no machine can have a Heart. A machine is always programmed. A man can play by hear even if you bend on some unexpected change and be artistic, creative. A machine does not have something to say... Even with one note only

As a (now retired) researcher in a closely related field to AI, I have two comments. First, and most important (unless you skipped some detail) you asked AI to add a MELODY to the backing track. I think any sax solo that simply played the melody of the song would be pretty boring. Second, learning a bank of licks is EXACTLY how other (more successful) AI tools work, from the chess playing programs of the 1980s that eventually could defeat a grand master, through Google translate (my own area of expertise) to other applications ... if someone had the time and inclination (or tools) to do that, you'd see a whole different result. Anyway thanks for the interesting experiment and thanks as ever for the great posts.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yeh it has some way to go but who knows in future! Thanks 🙏

I thought it was you on the first one until I heard the second. The growl and breathing pattern gave it away plus you got soul, bro.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

You got it!

Fun video!! To be honest, I was actually impressed how well the A.I. did. Obviously did not sound anything like you, but still. A.I. need to work on growl and split tones 😅

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yeh, it was not bad. Thanks

You're so fun, I look forward to Sundays!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 🙏

Fun video! Really informative to get to hear the two versions side by side. To me, A sounded quite close to what I would have been able to come up with myself on a good day. There were some nice bits in there, but it didn't really speak, and that becomes really obvious when you hear B.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yeh, there were some good bits.

B has your soul in it for sure! Thanks Jamie, this was really interesting!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

I knew that A was the A.I. solo, but only after hearing B. It sounded pretty uncomputerized to me. I enjoyed the video Jamie. Good work.😊

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ailish. Yeh, interesting how different people recognise

I have used 'Band In A Box' to generate quite usable solos many years ago. Although I found you have to generate several solos and cut'n'paste to make a musically sensible "ad lib".

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Phil. Sure it is a useable tool!

Thanks for this thoughtful experiment, Jamie. I got something different out of this: for me, both versions reinforced the concept that good pop and jazz solos are built from motifs that are repeated and developed, instead of being streams of continuous improv that doesn't relate back to itself. (If you're Keith Jarrett, you can string out incredible improv melody lines that just keep unrolling like a carpet, but most of us are not Keith Jarrett.)

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Glad you got something from it. Thanks 🙏

Very cool video!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Very entertaining episode, thanks.🙂

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 🙏

Thank you for this!

@GetYourSaxTogether

24 күн бұрын

You're welcome!

Definitely a good short term tool for a kid in jazz band who needs a solo but still has to add the bells and whistles to it

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

It certainly has it's uses.

I knew A.I wasn't as groovy as you 🔥

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Aw shucks! Thanks 😂

I guessed B for Jamie's It had to be B ... It sounded sooooo much better than A Love the fact you have done a sax solo on a more recent song in charts ... thanks again Jamie, going to have a go at this one 🎷🎷🎷🎷

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Great. Thanks so much! 🙏

Beautiful solo Jamie!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

That was a super video. Your version was obvious due to the creativity differences 👏. Your summary of what would make AI much better was perfect. AI uses machine learning and requires training on the context of the data as well as ingesting every known recordings of Sax solos! IBM’s Watson AI platform was used to create a successful pop hit in 2018.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Neil! It was interesting to do.

I can identify the Jaime sound anywhere. B embodies a smoothly articulated improvisation feeling. 😊

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I never would have expected AI to create music like that. Great idea Jamie!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Interesting eh! Thanks 🙏

For me it was obvious that A was AI & B was Jamie! On another side of AI vs musician; Brent, from "Learning Jazz Standards" asked ChatGPT "how to learn jazz in 4 steps" and the results were pretty impressive.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍 Thanks for that. One to check out

@robstevens9590

Жыл бұрын

@@GetYourSaxTogether It's actually AI's "how to learn jazz in 10 steps"

@Osnosis

Жыл бұрын

If you have long legs, it’s only 4😂

Starts here: 6:17

@GetYourSaxTogether

7 ай бұрын

👍🏻

A was so mechanical and B was so you Jamie. You put soul, feeling, and some typical saxy moments in there. Will AI ever do that? Not sure.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Who knows?

SO definitely B - And, after hearing YOUR version, I'm just going to say it - that song Should Have Had a Sax Solo!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It really shoulda 😂👍

I really appreciate how relaxed and open you are to the idea of AI generated music. For some musicians this seems to be a difficult/sensitive thing, some kind of denial.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yeh, I think we're safe, for now!

yr version was really, really good; i think ur as good as cannonball adderley - and i was able easily to spot which was which.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Ah you'll make me blush🙏

A- was nice,B- much nicer. I choose B immediately

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Klaus!

Fascinating episode! Until you started playing, the A.I was doing a fair job of it. Like you said, ‘it lacked the knowledge base to be able to select and format its piece. I think that’s true of A.I in a lot of sectors just now. It needs time to learn. Not time for John Connor to intervene just yet, haha! Great episode Jamie, thanks bud!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. Yeh, I'm sure A.I. will be back...

Great video Jamie and a pretty fair demo of how things stand right now, (or at least what is publically/commercially available now). But AI tools like Chat GPT4 have only been around a few months, and went from ChatGPT1 to 4 in just a few years (if that). ChatGPT10? And that 'bank of licks' you mentioned is only a matter of time. Band In A Box has really good sampling with great algorithms imagine Band In A Box AI. And the latest sampled saxes from Native Instruments are impressive. Its not clear what level of AI Musia is actually using. It seems to me not much more than an algorithm that parses the chord tones with rudimentary rhythms. Though there were some motivic elements which seemed to crop up at the same place on each attempt. It won't be long before this is much more sophisticated. The phrasing will be more convincing in the compositional element and the synthesis will be very realistic. There isn't any AI applied to that element (yet). And given the relatively musically primitive/basic nature of most pop music I would predict that unfortunately the future landcape for live musicians ain't good. Look what happened with Autotune, and for that matter all digital music production. It doesn't even need to be better, just cheaper!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

It will be interesting to see where it goes in future. I think for now, we're safe. Great comments thanks!

It's so obvious it's comical...even just looking at the notation I could tell that there's NO WAY our Jamie would play something like that. Your solo was dope FYI - expect a call from Harry very soon here 😆

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🙏

It did the best humanly possible!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

For the moment, the answer is fairly obvious. But given the speed at which AIs are evolving, it would be a good idea to repeat this test in a year's time, to see what happens.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

For sure!

I think A is the AI ... and the result is ... correct ! The second one is really amazing ! Good job Jamie ! AI is far from taking your job ... AI is not an artist.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

You got me! Thanks so much 🙏

Of course, all the notes are correct, as one would expect.. However, all I can say is, " Thank God for human sax players!" John.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yeh - I’ve still got a job! 😂

@gutbucket279

Жыл бұрын

@@GetYourSaxTogether Hi! I don't like where AI seems to be going. Without admitting to hubris, no machine has ever ,or will ever, play a solo as beautiful as what God Almighty allows me to play. John.

AI studied tv show theme songs for inspiration! I was waiting for Captain Scubing to appear in the room! 😁 It was just too smooth, but then again, so are some sax players!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣 Could be! Yeh, there are so who knows in future...

Great human solo by the way

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🙏

To be brutally honest, soon as I heard the first few bars of A, I thought I was in a lift🥴 Loved your take👍

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣 Thanks!

Hey, could u explain how to do cracking high notes on the Tenor sax? Like the f# G or a ?

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Hey, I've done a few videos on altissimo. Check this one for starters kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYmG3NqYlr2ceNI.html

Hey Jamie, Coco here. I’d love to hear it would do if you just let it go chromatic. Unless that’s what the mental thing in the middle was. See you in the “Blue Misty Hills of Tiree! That one will be my last ever gig so hope you’re coming. Cheers

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Hey coco! Thanks for the comment. I could t see a chromatic option actually. That would be truly mental. Sadly I’m not doing Tiree mate!! Boo 😒 Have a great one though and thanks for everything you e done for us. 😘

@okiwatashi2349

Жыл бұрын

@@GetYourSaxTogether you’re most welcome!

I thought A sounded pretty good till I heard B which seemed somehow freer and more creative, so I guessed B as the human, and was relieved I got it right, despite not knowing much about saxophone playing. I think even if it did "learn" the whole history of saxophone music, the problem is that an AI won't ever be creative, but will just be rehashing things it's "learnt" before. A true musician is always innovating, and that's what (IMO) an AI will never be able to do.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

I stopped the video to give my opinion on A or B. Must say when I heard A I thought yes that's the real sax lol but when I started playing the B comparison I said that's Jamie only because I recognised your style.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Good ear!

What AI hasn't learned YET, is that it isn't just about the notes It's the gaps between the notes too. Great video as always.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Thanks so much 🙏

For me, it was very easy - right from the start I could hear (and see) that the AI version was computer generated. It reminded me of bad computer games from the 80’s. 😂 Obviously it didn’t have the licks, the soul and the general solo structure (intro, climaxes and outro) - and most importantly it wasn’t very melodic, catchy and pleasant to listen to - it was very “mechanical” in lack of better words… Great solo by you though, Jamie! - Loved it! 😍😎🎷

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Great observations! Thanks so much 🙏

Clearly A was the machine and B was the great Jamie. No doubt about it

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

The first one was definitely better, for sure! My CPU was in flames, I had to reboot myself to keep functioning! Mr. Anderson tried his best but as expected was too flawed!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣

could you one day do a video on takeshi itoh ?he plays the sax with the band T-square and he sounds so cool

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Maybe! Thanks for the suggestion! 👍

the nuances in sound that a human player has can't be replicated by AI, however, the AI was not bad.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

B is surely you, so much more emotional.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

That's it!

I think A was the A.I and B was you playing 100%

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

That's right 👍

B is the Ja I (mie) version. A was passable but B was much more natural

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

You got it!

Interesting. Thanks Jamie. Yes I sussed out your human solo instantly. However the AI could be a starting point for those who lack imagination.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Certainly a tool that could be used yeh!

I thought I'd give AI a chance to defend itself so here's it's comment.... Jamie Anderson's "Get Your Sax Together" is a fantastic demonstration of the fusion between artificial intelligence and human creativity. The sax solo created by AI over Harry Styles' late-night talking adds a mesmerizing layer to the already captivating atmosphere. It's remarkable to witness how technology can seamlessly integrate with artistic expression, producing an innovative and immersive musical experience. The saxophone, known for its soulful and expressive nature, finds a perfect companion in the soothing cadence of Harry Styles' voice. The AI-generated solo manages to capture the essence of the late-night ambiance, effortlessly complementing Styles' vocals and enhancing the overall mood of the piece. This collaboration showcases the potential of AI to enhance musical collaborations, pushing the boundaries of what we thought was possible and creating a unique blend of human and technological artistry. "Get Your Sax Together" serves as a testament to the exciting future that lies ahead, where AI and human creativity can coexist harmoniously, elevating our musical experiences to new heights.

@timmytimster7840

Жыл бұрын

Just to add JAs solo was so clearly more emotional which is something that's gonna be hard for AI to replicate in my opinion

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Great! 🙏

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. For now at least

When I heard A, I was thinking that this AI could be great for the phone holding music composers. But when you go through the additional steps of replacing the midi music with writing out the part for a sax player to play, it seems to me it would be quicker and cheaper to have any decent sax player see and listen to the chord changes, then lay down a human solo in one take.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Interesting thoughts 👍

No competition!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yay! 🎉

Crazy how AI can do this! I thought your playing was more epic then AI though 🎷😎

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!! 🙏🏻

Robot Sax Thank You Jamie

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🙏

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

😎

A was played with the enthusiasm of a sample engine.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣

1 is Robbie robot 2 is Jamie, cool demo mate, its when the audience is AI ,we need start worrying . I know what version they will prefer

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Colin! There's a thought 😂

The human solo was the last one: Impressive start and the repetitions.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

So has no chance. 💯💥🎷

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

AI is not able to growl enough 😅 Great video, ty Jamie

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🙏

So, if I have this correct, Jamie played both solos, but one was composed by A.I. and the other was composed by him?

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

That's it. You got it!

I'm ashamed to admit, but I like the notes (note choices) of the AI. But I liked the articulation, expression, and rhythm of B. I think the A has some cool ideas to it, that later could be developed on by a really player adding articulation, accents, and feel to it, and making it work more.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong in that. Absolutely it could!

I thought B was easily identifiable as the human, the rhythmic interest was so much better, great solo.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy 🙏

I think you should have included the untweaked version but played it where humanly possible by you.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

The most important matter of real saxophone with it's player is the soul! No AI or any other electronic devices have soul in the sound, full stop

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

A.I. comment: Lately we've seen court cases which claim/defend copyright infringement on chord progressions. Will A.I. ever hace to defend itself? The creators of A.I. don't ask for permission on ANYTHING. Technology creates and then asks for forgiveness it seems. If A.I. can absorb like a sponge all you want it to absorb plus all of the parameters which need to limit it by instrument range and music theory should do's and don'ts, were likely to have some acceptable melodies and solos. I guess. Wouldn't one parameter be: "But don't copy anything already recorded and copyrighted!" Now that would be interesting because A. I. just might get some "writer's block." Just thinkin' publicly.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

Of course the second one is Jamie

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🙏

I could tell.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

A has got to be the AI. But it did some interesting intervallic leaps

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yeh! 👍

Very nice solo yours, and yes very obvious. AI is going to be a huge problem to music in the very near future.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. Interesting to see how it turns out

Try doing it in band in a box- think it is betterAI.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yeh, I'm sure different A.I. have their own nuances. Be interesting to try something else

Didn’t even have to hear any sound. Just from the sheet music, it was obvious to me what version was AI and not. The flow, articulation and finesse in part B is something I think AI will never be able to create. Atleast I hope so.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Good spot! Certainly not at the moment... who knows?

@garderiksen6126

Жыл бұрын

@@GetYourSaxTogether I think and sincerely hope, the emotions and creativity, along with experience a human musician possess, will never be artificially generated. That said, I allways enjoy you videos. Fun to watch and with lots of great content. Thank you👍🏻

OK, here's an equation for ya: JA> machine (2023); JA< AI (?)

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Ha! Who knows? 👍

I think the more we pay attention to so called AI and get excited, the more its creators (programmers) get motivated to move ahead. If thats the Path we choose, then one day AI will outperform humans in any arts, simply because it will be able to analyze all available data in music, arts, literature. Let's be honest, the music we love is a combination and sequence of patterns and phrases. Once AI knows it all and knows our secret weapon- pauses, its done)

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Interesting thoughts, thanks for this! 👍

Pretty obvious which one was yours! Interesting excercise though.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🙏

"(AI) hasn't learned the whole history of saxophone playing - it doesn't have a bank of licks played by the greats to fall back on". Yes it does, just that no-one has bothered to feed all that data into an AI yet. As soon as they do, we are in trouble!

@shirleyfrancis4515

Жыл бұрын

Quite agree.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yeh it doesn't have them yet. Be interesting to see in future if and when it does

Absolutely no match. You crushed the robot 6/0 6/0

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Josef!

I thought it was B. It was obvious.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

😎

Sax editing could become a new profession...

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣

The second one is your Jemei. ! can not match !

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

That AI alto doesn't sound anything like a saxophone.

@GetYourSaxTogether

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, luckily for us!

I guessed correctly Jamie, there was just more creativity in the human version

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Great! 🙏

Well it might not be to the standard of pro sax players like your good self Jamie, but the AI blows the socks off my dreadful solos as an intermediate player.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

It was a fun experiment. Definitely a tool that could be used!

🎷😎

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣

I wonder, will AI obsess over finding the perfect ligature?

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

AI was clearly A. The AI isn't there yet in this program, but if it follows what has been done with language AIs then it'll be there soon.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yet...! 👍

I guest most saxophone player can identify "B" is by human. The B sound has more color and depths

@GetYourSaxTogether

11 ай бұрын

👍🙏

I don't think that is AI. It sounds just like a program. AI learns from the internet and incorporates what it has learned from a central server. AI is being used as a marketing tool

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

I used A.I. to come up with this music A.I. video idea. That’s marketing. (I’m kidding).

The second one is obviously the human. The first one sounds like a tin flute!

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

👍

If you wasn't B you should be worried 🤣😂

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣

AI is a much better learner compared to a human. If such a model would be improved by an experienced human training it, the results could be game changing in a year or less. The problem would be to commercialise it as you can't hook up an AI with Spotify for training and later sell its capability whereas this is not a problem for a human musician. If people at some point will be alleviated their daily burden by AI, I reckon many will discover music as a hobby. A human teacher is probably much better than a computer interface and beyond that we really appreciate humans making art with each other rather than machines, don't we? I really hope that in an AI-age the demand and appreciation for artists and musicians will be way higher than it is today.

@GetYourSaxTogether

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the interesting comment! 👍

Don't really know why you call it AI when you were the one to program it It seemed obvious that the second solo was the human solo because it was less inhibited and played much freeer than the cautious solo taken by the computer "Never ever say Never"

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yeh, plugged in the parameters. Could you have spotted it without the comparison? 😊👍

I preferred the AI solo.

@TransformsIntoAGuitar

Жыл бұрын

I'm kidding, yours blew it away!

@xaviercoll

Жыл бұрын

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣

IMO we're going the wrong way with AI ability They are frickin machines.. AI should be focused on difficult & dangerous work that humans do & leaving humans free to pursue the arts & other interest.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

It provokes thought eh. Cheers! 🙏

AI don’t growl… haha. “B” all the way

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

🤣 Yeh!

AI needs a different mouthpiece and a sax with the lacquer stripped off.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Ha! 🤣

AI's IQ is currently 160 it will go up 10x for each new version.

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

😮

AI was A and Jamie was B

@GetYourSaxTogether

Жыл бұрын

Yep, spot on!