Every call-in ever: Matt: Do you have evidence for God? Caller: Yes Matt: What is it? Caller: Let me ask _you_ a question... Matt: So no then? Caller: Well, the thing is Matt: Next!

@TovChapaev

4 жыл бұрын

I am amazed Matt is not sick of this nonsense yet. There are no arguments for the existence of god and hardly anyone who is a believer ever got there because of a convincing argument either.

@OfficialSapphirePhoenix

2 жыл бұрын

This...this guy was soooo pretentious and yet couldn't answer the simple question...he called just to hear himself talk and to try and argue with Matt about what HE believes and HOW to use words lol...Matt said it plainly...if God was real and we had evidence...we wouldn't be having these discussions for years about I'd he's real and yes it WOULD make headlines if we had irrefutable evidence

@dmclegg66

2 жыл бұрын

Twilight Sparkle is life boom proof.

A solid argument for the existence of God would be on every news channel 24/7

@davidross5593

10 ай бұрын

We humans refuse to believe God could be real. It is fascinating the primary outright says the top apologists dont use the best arguments for God. So Frank Turek, Jason Lisle, Kent Hovind are not top apologists using the best arguments for the existence of God? I argue they are. It is the atheists that do not accept those arguments and that is the issue. What is the best evidence for the existence of God? I would say it is a tie between the existence of earth and the existence of all humans who have all or nothing unity. Why don't we hear about this in the news? Because the news is largely liberal and anti-God. Of course a liberal anti-God news station is not gonna broadcast an argument for the existence of God, not only they don't believe in such, but they would have to admit they are wrong themselves to believe there is no God. Also, is it really a coincidence the Bible is banned, restricted or illegal in select countries? It's not a coincidence. The same principle applies. People suppress the truth. People suppress the truth because they don't want others to know the smartest people alive are suppressing this.

@darkestfenex2274

9 ай бұрын

At the very least it would be all over TBN and CBN and all other god stations 😂😂

@IRGeamer

6 ай бұрын

@@iamsalaya "We would have to be able to locate said god." I don't think you understand what a valid and sound argument is... There was no mention in this comment or in the call of "evidence" or "observation".

@gattaca5911

2 ай бұрын

yes, even vapid arguments are on 24/7

@steveyuhas9278

Ай бұрын

​​​@@iamsalayaI agree with you, the argument itself wouldn't be enough for me. It's in two parts. The argument...and supporting evidence/confirmation. Because I have zero confidence in theists ability to not miss something in their reasoning given that their reasoning is heavily motivated. So yes, argument and confirmation in reality. We didn't just theorize about black holes and stop there. We had GREAT arguments and evidence that they existed first. Then we went out and confirmed they do in fact exist. Similarly with dark matter, we have very good reasons to think it exists but science isn't pompous enough to close the issue there. We are doing everything we can to observe and interact with whatever "it" is. And that's with the most unbiased method to come to truth humans have ever come up with. When it comes to god, I'm gonna need a bit more than just a solid deductive argument. I'll believe it's likely at that point... But I won't jump on board until we observe evidence of it because the motivated reasoning alone is enough to convince me that some small flaw may have been overlooked. We are not infallible thinkers. It's why observation is such a huge part of science and why we don't do it from our armchairs like theists.

Man..these hosts have so much patience.

@GTNover

3 жыл бұрын

Matt is a very intelligent man. I would not say he is patient

@ApocryphalDude

3 жыл бұрын

So many obtuse callers

@sternwheeler

3 жыл бұрын

Not anymore.

@YleneP

2 жыл бұрын

@@GTNover listening to to idiot theists for 20 years would make me lose my patience as well

@christianblevins1870

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps he can see where the argument is going and skip some of the bs in the first place

Getting regularly laughed at means you are a good Christian.

@Nathstersyd

Жыл бұрын

Depends on your community. If you have more theists then no, more athiests or other religions, then maybe yes. For Athiests, rather than being laughed at, they are looked down upon or judged as belonging to the devil, or judged as having no morals. Everyone is a victim if you want to be a victim.

@ssj4gogeta130

9 ай бұрын

*”rEmeMBeR iF ThE WoRlD HatEd YoU JuSt KnOw ThEy HatEd Me FirSt!”* - christian jackasses who use that verse as an excuse to be a dick or when they have retarded silly notions!

Someone took a freshman critical thinking course and though he was the smartest person on earth.

@thricerocks

6 жыл бұрын

No, not about Matt, I'm talking about the caller. Yeah, the university I went to (actually one Matt came to to give a talk about morality iirc) had one, I took it to fulfill some elective requirement. The course was mainly just teaching about logical fallacies and how to structure an argument.

@suzannahdarcy6903

4 жыл бұрын

@meaturama Of course universities have critical thinking courses. Look at the Philosophy dept of probably every university out there. You can also find courses online or in library books.

@Charlie_Loves

Жыл бұрын

He isn’t utilizing critical thinking.

I'm so glad comments are not disabled.

@sporehux8344

6 жыл бұрын

Where only at TOXICON level 4 ,

@JackHives

6 жыл бұрын

because you recognize an equal?

@anamf247

6 жыл бұрын

meaturama breh.

@itsJPhere

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, why do they disable comments on these videos? It's bizarre if the point of the show is to open up the discussion.

@spiralentree737

6 жыл бұрын

J P it is but probably lots of religious people going to talk shit on them

It must be really difficult to breath, let alone speak, when your head's that far up your own arse. Respect to the caller for positioning his microphone so well.

@joelonsdale

3 жыл бұрын

At least he's in a good position to check himself for colorectal cancers and catch them good and early. Just trying to see the positive...

@DipankarBhattacherjee

3 жыл бұрын

Someone pl take to a 100 likes. I can only contribute 1

Ah yes, yet again, we get that caller who is in week 3 of Philosophy 101

@KeyFrame11Media

3 жыл бұрын

@NonCaptatMuscas 94 His intent on being heard as intellectually competent and being capable of maintaining "some" semblance of cogent thought process, illustrates that he is likely working towards learning in some capacity.

@thickerconstrictor9037

2 жыл бұрын

@@KeyFrame11Media and he got dismantled at every turn and didn't even realize it

@Samir-pd5hq

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@Samir-pd5hq

2 жыл бұрын

@@KeyFrame11Media he’s a glass-completely-full kind of philosophy 101 student

My dog actually presented a sound argument for the existence of god that I couldn't refute. The problem is, I seem to be the only one who can understand what my dog is saying. To everyone else, it just sounds like WOOF WOOF WOOF, which is why it isn't on the news yet. That's basically what this guy is saying.

@silentotto5099

6 жыл бұрын

K31TH3R Perhaps you could write your dog's argument down? That worked for Mohamed and Joseph Smith. You could be the next prophet if you play your cards right! :)

@sheezamann2724

6 жыл бұрын

K31TH3R-----TOO FUNNY.....i won't forget this

@K31TH3R

6 жыл бұрын

SilentOtto Good plan. Right now it's laying on my back lawn. I'm waiting for just the right moment when it's not too moist, but isn't so dry to the point it crumbles into dust when I pick it up.

@paulstewart7529

6 жыл бұрын

woof woof woof your dog is truly the son of god let us bow wow the the doggod

@henrikbger4111

6 жыл бұрын

actually, you had me after WOOF WOOF

He's trying so hard for a "got ya"

@mrcurly1147

5 жыл бұрын

He's trying to catch a fart with a butterfly net.

@Nickelini

5 жыл бұрын

trying sooooo hard

@fxsrider

5 жыл бұрын

Even if he did it would make no difference. He just gets to sport a church approved regulation sized boner. It is a consolation prize for best effort. Show it off for a day. Then start climbing the hill again.

@Berbs73

5 жыл бұрын

Saying OMG is a gotcha for these assholes. Smh...

@aliceIMF

5 жыл бұрын

@@Nickelini and failing equally as hard...

People like him actually help us to contrast between rational honest behavior and delusional irrational dishonest discourse. He actually serves a purpose.

Just a word salad of nothingness. I just wasted 20 mins for him to make a point that never came.

@rodprops

4 жыл бұрын

WORD

@beeinthehive

2 жыл бұрын

Basically; The demonstration of the conclusion is the denial about the system in which the argument of naturalism... wait... what was I babbling about again?

I have been saying this for a long time. I have watched hundreds of hours of videos such as this and debates. I have never ever heard a reasonable, rational argument for a deity. Zip Zero

@nosuchthing8

5 жыл бұрын

True enough. But if you have a personal faith then that is enough. No need to trot out arguments that don't work.

@johnlopperman2161

5 жыл бұрын

Mike That's because there is none.

@jakeem07

5 жыл бұрын

Mike, you’ve blown all of them off. They’ve been here all along

@mrcurly1147

5 жыл бұрын

@@jakeem07 Pretty sure he said " I have never ever heard a reasonable, rational argument for a deity. Zip Zero"". You may notice the words reasonable and rational...... Those are key.

@jakeem07

5 жыл бұрын

Mr Curly it’s reasonable and rational just simply to think there may be a deity bc of the beauty you see all around you. I didn’t say man in the clouds did I? We could be a simulation, which means there’s still someone driving the ship. That’s just one little reason to think there may be a deity. But you’ve pushed it away bc you don’t want to have to believe in it. You’ll never prove there isn’t a god and I’ll never prove there is one so we’re left with that choice

Usually I like to listen to these callers but this guy is exhausting.

@robertcartier5088

6 жыл бұрын

I don't know how Matt can still do this after so many years... When's the last time he got a really fruitful argument from any of the callers to this show? I haven't watched them all, but I still have not seen any. He always ends up having to make the same arguments, and getting the same dumb silence at the other end. It must be so frustrating... As evidenced by Matt giving in to just tuning this guy out completely. I guess I must be one of those annoying atheists who doesn't suffer fools very well. I use to think Matt was a little dismissive, and even insulting with some callers, but now I kind of understand... It takes a special kind of patience to do this all the time! I'm glad someone is doing it. Funny to me how they can make any argument they want and yet they still insist on using the same old crap logic to justify giving up rational thought. Makes me want to yell and scream, and pull my hair out... (But it scares the other patients, so I try not to. lol)

@gusgrizzel8397

5 жыл бұрын

It's unbelievable how they call, and have no debating skills, no idea why they think anything, nothing to back anything up, totally unprepared. They think they can just wing it, and some of them say they've watched the show before.

@MrDwicker

5 жыл бұрын

acg smith No he is not exhausting he is just plain stupid..

@paulbuswell6566

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrDwicker He is exhausting, but not completely stupid. He is a skilled sophist. He is trying to use fallacious 'logic' to get Matt to trip up on trivial tautologies. Which he will then use as an excuse for Gods existance. He basically just burnt up 20 mins saying that there 'could' be an argument for the existance of God , but we just haven't discovered it yet. Matt agrees, but says that until such evidence appears, he will continue to be skeptical. This isn't good enough for caller though. Because he has a confirmation bias (possibly due to his upbringing), that if it's possible that God 'could' exist, he will continue to believe. All the rest is bullshit and window dressing.

@bronxcheer1484

5 жыл бұрын

acg smith - listening to this, I’ve lost the will to live.

scientists ask: "where's your evidence?" theists ask: "what's evidence? what's an argument? what's real?"

@aaaaaaaaaa7699

4 жыл бұрын

What is real?

@aaaaaaaaaa7699

4 жыл бұрын

@Fatram Fatram I guess it depends on your definition of real

@pidayrocks2235

4 жыл бұрын

@TrainerblueTube "If you ask hard enough" truly being the operative terms! Remarkable that they suggest that all the evidence is right in front of you if you just stop to "think/reflect" or "let yourself see", as though appealing to nothing but your thoughts is a logical or sound means of acquiring evidence and developing truths... might as well get enlightened by my hallucinations while we're at it.

@ralfhaggstrom9862

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaaaaaaaaa7699 Not any Magical Fairies .............

@teamatfort444

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaaaaaaaaa7699 *morpheous intensifies*

Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."

@donmiller2908

3 жыл бұрын

You stole that from Tim Minchin. I use quotes all the time because those people said it much better than I ever could, but I also give them the credit.

@JD-fx1np

3 жыл бұрын

@@donmiller2908 it's cool you give credit where credit is due but it's not like HeathenDog owes him royalties.

The caller is full pseudo-intellectualism. So painful.

@boejiden6587

5 жыл бұрын

Matt is full of "pseudo-intellectiualism", as you call it..

@unit0033

5 жыл бұрын

caller doesnt even amount to that! he never proves his sky daddy either

@boejiden6587

5 жыл бұрын

@@tomg7489 Hey thanks! Atheism is an intellectually bankrupt and indefensible position. Thats why hosts on this show continually hang up on callers.

@mrcurly1147

5 жыл бұрын

@@boejiden6587 So how is the non belief of a cosmic wizard intellectually bankrupt and indefensible?? I mean, other than the fact that it is the default position. You converted to belief at some point in your religion addled journey. And without any evidence!!! So in reality, where I like to dwell, you are in the indefensible position. That is by definition, intellectually bankrupt. Your mind is writing cheques that reality can't cash!! Besides, you guys must be used to having someone at the other end hang up on you all the time, or at the very least, never answer so as to make it seem as if no one is ever home.

@dungeon-wn4gw

5 жыл бұрын

@@boejiden6587 call in then.

"I'm just concerned you're being irrational and hurting your cause", then wastes 20 minutes tap-dancing. Textbook concern trolling.

@Salomane

5 жыл бұрын

Meaturama he’s not retarded it even has a definition: con·cern trol·ling nounINFORMAL•DEROGATORY the action or practice of disingenuously expressing concern about an issue in order to undermine or derail genuine discussion.

@milossenzala

5 жыл бұрын

@1999 Oh but he is trolling , his entire life is about trolling . Him and his girlfriends are knows stalkers , doc droppers and human pieces of shit .

@jasonbourne8556

5 жыл бұрын

Southpaw Σ:3

@luciferdiablo2509

4 жыл бұрын

@@milossenzala everybody focus on the enemy

@patzchan1900

4 жыл бұрын

@Elon Musk You use fuckin tap shoes

I can almost feel their pain. Jens face is priceless.

Thank you Matt for being an absolute powerhouse

This caller had nothing to say. All he did was nitpick Matt's wording. I suppose if you don't have any opinions you can't be proven wrong.

@nicadi2005

6 жыл бұрын

+Christopher Pratt "I suppose if you don't have any opinions you can't be proven wrong." - BINGO! Although, I suppose the biggest drawback of that approach would be that you can't be right either...

@DQvigstad

6 жыл бұрын

You are right when you reject stupid arguments.

@boejiden6587

5 жыл бұрын

Matt nitpicks theists words, so matt can but callers can't? More one sided atheist BS

@unit0033

5 жыл бұрын

dont watch the show then! lol

@AGrayPhantom

5 жыл бұрын

I loved you in Guardians of the Galaxy.

Derek sums up every argument for the existence of god, groundless waffle.

@GlossRabban

4 жыл бұрын

Now I want waffels :('

@Mike-os3pt

2 жыл бұрын

But what if I like waffles? :(

@JayJay-two

2 жыл бұрын

"can we have waffles ? 😁"-John Malkovich RED (Retired Extremely Dangerous)

Derek's droning voice reminds me that Father Ted episode where all the priests are lost in a lingerie department and Ted calls for a priest with a boring voice to make an announcement and one priest says "that would be me. I have a very boring voice. I have the most boring voice you ever heard." Derek is that guy.

"I still got YOU to call ME!" The smackdown heard around the world.

@victorhoisington5603

8 ай бұрын

Boom!❤

Derak is a dishonest time waster.

@ralfhaggstrom9862

5 жыл бұрын

Like most "believers" ...................

@sebastianfeuerstein9306

4 жыл бұрын

@@ralfhaggstrom9862 Yep

@destronia123

4 жыл бұрын

He sounds like Nephilim Free

@kjustkses

4 жыл бұрын

Why?

@kjustkses

4 жыл бұрын

Urrcreavesh Just because someone does not agree with you does not mean that they are dishonest. That is quite a childish way of thinking.

Amazing how many times Dunning Kruger calls the show

The more I learn about critical thinking and how to function daily with it, the more my jaw drops about realities or truths people walk around blindly accepting... We have work to do people, for the people!

Holy shit! I think Derek (caller) is in the middle of some Psychology class and trying to show off what he's learning. So cute. The big words he thinks he's gonna confuse Matt with. He doesn't even understand the words Matt is speaking. And I love hearing the crew in back laughing!

If you were God would you have people killed for not believing in you, not worshipping you, drawing pictures of you, expect people to pray to you, worship you? I wouldn't

@AdmiralBison

6 жыл бұрын

no because if I was omnipotent I wouldn't be so insecure, but the Bible god is written down for saying he is a jealous and vengeful god. the writers of the Bible who came up with that this fictional crap where probably quite authoritarian.

@Arkloyd

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not as self-centered and selfish as yahweh. That happened to me the moment I stopped believing that said god made me because it desired a relationship with me.

@alkestos

5 жыл бұрын

It's the people that believe doing all that stuff as far as I'm aware tho.

@julietrae8665

5 жыл бұрын

YES!.INDEED!! if i made you to serve and worship me, my will would be the only will that mattered. i would definitely not show myself but pick a select a few monkeys to tell others to believe, and if they didn't, i'd flood the world of all those without respect for me..i'd produce dimensions and make worthy adversaries to have challenge me, and if any of them rebelled because i win all the time, i'd cast them down to the monkeys, of which for their half-wit powers could mess with the monkeys, and if they saw their halfwit powers and turned to them? They'd be attached eternally to each other resulting in them half-wits, giving them the knowledge to evolve, and give them a system of their own beliefs, resulting in another and another and another instance where my powers would destroy them all who rebelled with their rebellious minds and actions. if these newly made monkeys, which now had a half-wit brain, would turn to me and beg til they either repented back and obeyed or would be banished from all of the glorious creations i had made in the first place was MIIINE, and I let them have a choice, to play on the beautiful garden i had worked 1,000 years on, since my watch is different. My day, is your thousand years and vice-versa ..Since the half wits taught them some things, and they thought they could stand a chance with me? When their halfwit created magical beings that i gave that power to, gave them some magic..and rebelled even more, i'd say ok monkeys..You now..have a soul, and I would corrupt it. I'd then cast the halfwits out into another realm. And could go on and on, til the ones who through the prophets would obey or not and have them (write this all down, warning others to worship me in tradition or die a terrible death. (pt 1)

@pappapinskie5883

5 жыл бұрын

Right, but that's the epitome of "love" according to thiests. Lmao

Derek, you can't win by grinding smart people down with gibberish.

The defination of what this caller is doing is: WORD SALAD!

@troelsvestergaard6644

4 жыл бұрын

Jane Doe Without dressing

"Well, Ah mean, okay, but like, y'know, right, so Ah mean, well it's kinda like, er, sorta, Ah jus' kinda wanna, er, yeah, but but but...." The most convincing thing that Derek said was: "I'm a bit confused". The least convincing thing was: "I think".

@Mewse1203

3 жыл бұрын

I lol'd so hard

Jesus christmas with these semantics GET TO THE POINT, MAN!

@marinaproger2324

5 жыл бұрын

Took years of my life ..

@AlexWardi

4 жыл бұрын

He shows his hand for a moment. Around 9:43, he says "all he has to do" is falsify a previous hypothesis that Matt stated. However, to your point, this would still NOT be a good argument for the existence of god, which was the premise he gave for the call. Disingenuous motives from the get-go, unfortunately.

@dadaseyi

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh....

I like to make subjective arguments on objective subjects, subjecting Objectivism, subjectively objecting to objective subjectivity. Or did I objectively misinterpret your subjective definition of objectivity?

@kirkchase5048

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaaa...the subjective truth of objectivity is objective, subjectively

@javiersmith8618

5 жыл бұрын

Princess Carolyn, is that you? :)

@thomasjefferson7655

5 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I'm hearing from the caller 😂😂

@paxmule

5 жыл бұрын

🤔

@Lucas_Tulic

5 жыл бұрын

@@hillbilly2065 What a weird way for you to come out of the closet. But hey... I don't judge.

Caller is the quintessential example of someone who has done sufficient research to justify their beliefs to themselves, but who refuses to continue his study to the point where he can falsify them.

@HarbingerOfBattle

9 ай бұрын

Dunning Kruger?

Much respect for your patience and intellect Matt! Cheers

The Best argument against Derek is Derek !

@youfilin

5 жыл бұрын

"okay Google! I'm Derek". Breaking news: today all good servers are down.

@jw2897

5 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure derek is quite a bit smarter than you.

@jilliansmith7123

4 жыл бұрын

j w : we have no evidence that Derek is smarter than a newborn elephant.

@mykehog6646

3 жыл бұрын

@@jw2897 dewek is not smarter than ewe...

@HarbingerOfBattle

9 ай бұрын

If I may respectfully disagree, my opinion is that the best argument against Derek is Dalek.

Matt Dillahunty is my hero, & a champion for all atheists! You deserve a cape my brother.

@brucebaker810

Жыл бұрын

And gauntlets. And his cowboy boots. And a big snake over his shoulders. The eye patch too much? Or consistent with the snake?

@webius502

Жыл бұрын

@Bruce Baker I'm good with the eye patch. When he was wearing one, it made him look regal AF.

@timgallagher9229

10 ай бұрын

Eh, matts alright...kinda full of himself imo. He's often on point, just kinda arrogant there in.

@ApatheticFish3667

9 ай бұрын

@@timgallagher9229 Nah, the Christians are the arrogant ones.

@Casual_Lifestyle

8 ай бұрын

@@timgallagher9229 Intelligent people tend to be a bit arrogant, I think that’s a given, he can be harsh at times though I agree.

I wonder if this guy is a flat earth, sovereign citizen also.

@at6686

3 жыл бұрын

Only when he’s traveling...

I told myself I'd wait to grab lunch until Derek made an actual point......and now I'm dead from starvation

This caller seems not to subscribe to the idea that it is better to stay silent and be thought of as a fool than to open his mouth and have that idea confirmed.

@ericsbuds

6 жыл бұрын

...open his mouth and remove all doubt! my dad always said that :D

@petereuk52

6 жыл бұрын

You could well be right. Either way I think the point is made but thanks for the correction.

@ericsbuds

6 жыл бұрын

im sorry i wasnt trying to correct you, per se, i just like that quote. i thumbed you up!

@petereuk52

6 жыл бұрын

It's ok, your version sounds better. I just always loved this quote too.

@nicadi2005

6 жыл бұрын

+petereuk52 "This caller seems not to subscribe to the idea that it is better to stay silent and be thought of as a fool than to open his mouth and have that idea confirmed. [open his mouth and remove all doubt]" - You really haven't got ANY IDEA just how many people are working in the Doubt Removal industry, now do you!? ;-)

This is hard to watch. This caller is a joke.

@3MrNiceGuy15

4 жыл бұрын

@Gods Servant username checks out

@mitchhaelann9215

4 жыл бұрын

Jokes are supposed to be funny.......

@nosuchthing8

4 жыл бұрын

They all are

I’m continually amazed at the absurd nonsense theists come up with in order to justify their delusion that a god exists without ever presenting a definition of their god let alone a shred of verifiable data and experimental based evidence of their given definition.

It sounds like he’s trying to take simple arguments and make them complex again.

why is it that virtually every caller that claims to have proof of God will do anything but actually give the proof of God, they will argue definitions of words and morality and try to get the host to admit something that contradicts what they said previously. At some point at about 14 minutes Matt says do you have evidence of the existence of God and the man says yes I do but, and then goes into this lengthy debate about something that said to the previous caller instead of Simply presenting his proof. I was 34 years old when I figured out that atheist weren't people who didn't want to worship God nor people who chose of their own free will to not believe in God, but we're inside people who had determined that there was no good reason to believe in God. To prove one of my brothers wrong I started studying the Bible and history to prove the Bible was true and within a couple of months I was agnostic Within a couple of years I was an atheist. I do not choose not to believe and when somebody actually presents real evidence that a God exists by the definition of an all-powerful being I will admit a God exist and begin to examine which God it is and what he expects of us. During my agnostic days I'd come to this conclusion if God was benevolent then good people who exercised compassion and empathy wood have a blessed afterlife and those who did not would simply be destroyed or allowed to die. if God was going to punish anyone by means of torture then he was menevolent and not Worthy of any kind of recognition or worship. Once I added Evolution and science to my studies and no I'm neither and evolutionist or a biologist but I am smart enough to understand what I read I came to the conclusion that we evolved the state we're in and that biologically everything of who we are is stored in our brains and when we die, our brain will be dead and there will be nothing left to move on to another plane of existence. that being said I live my life according to the moral code that I first bring no harm people or animals, I'm not a vegetarian and I do empathize with the treatment of animals but changing my diet will not save them. the second part of my morality is to do the best I can to respect others property to help those that I can and to care for my friends and Neighbors to the best of my ability because I believe that I will be surrounded with good people who will in turn help protect and provide for me in the same capacity.

@blackhat4206

3 жыл бұрын

@John Rich It has been three years, so perhaps you missed your window on this one?

@blackhat4206

3 жыл бұрын

@John Rich I meant that for all you know, the one your comment was directed toward may no longer even hold that position. My mistake, though, I didn't realize you were just looking for a soap box to preach your virtues at others. I wouldn't have bothered to point out your necromancy, if I had known that's what you were going for, mate. Best of luck changing the world! One KZread thread at a time!

Matt and jenn and stacie. your way with words and your way of explaining these complex and difficult concepts in a manner that SHOULD be easy to grasp truly inspires me. I've been watching this show (KZread clips mainly) for years and I just want you guys, and the rest of the cast there, to know that I love the work that you do and the message behind it. You guys have reinforced my perception of this world and have assisted in relieving me from the burden of regret and constant worry that religion cursed me with. Please do not stop doing everything you can do to help spread the concept of sanity and logical reasoning. Your team is making the world a better place MANY steps at a time.

"I have a proof that God exists which I believe is the most important thing in the entire universe, but before that, let's be clear on a definition that isn't even remotely related to whether a god exists or not."

In response to every question the hosts ask him "Well we can talk about that but first let me distract you with this futile point."

He complains about the fact that there might be a valid, sound argument for God that is simply not known publicly, yet he doesn't share it. Gee, I wonder why that argument is not publicly known. It's a shame, because the caller didn't seem like an idiot, at all, in fact he seemed to be quite eloquent and a fast thinker. Yet he wastes that potential by not being able to detach himself from bias.

@brucerojas24

5 жыл бұрын

You can be a pretty fast thinker if you run around in circles. He had the same come-backs over and over again, dood. But yeah, he can't cut to the chase

Love how even the live audiences can't believe this guy.

I can definitely relate to what Matt says at the end. Too many people try to argue semantics, not realizing that the primary reason to even talk about semantics is just so people understand what each other is saying. Even if the usage is "idiosyncratic" it shouldn't matter too much as long as the meaning is clear.

Turns out this is actually an atheist. He had no argument, and was being dishonest to get through. There are actually buds of his that maintain that Matt and Jen were "owned" during this call.. even though at nearly every point of criticism he was refuted. His name is The Realistic Nihilist. What a joke.

@davidstarks3308

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Red What a shit head if that's true...

@Cyba_IT

4 жыл бұрын

I thought he said "I'm an atheist" right at the start. Either way he's a f'n douchetard.

@ARoll925

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, that's so sad for his friends that they think he won this conversation, he is really bad at this, he makes no sense and is so damn arrogant and so smug about his bullshit it is painful

@WillPhil290

3 жыл бұрын

That's some serious detective work... Lol

@DaviniaHill

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cyba_IT he said the opposite

Jeez that guy was tough to listen to!

@ryanhill8886

5 жыл бұрын

I think they should rename the book in the bible "The Book of Matt" instead of "..Job", because clearly Matt's patience here was pushed to the nth limit. It took Matt nearly 20 minutes of tolerating that monotone before he hung up. I would have been "Next caller!" after the first five minutes …..

he talks about rationality and believes in a god with zero good evidence

@midnightghoul2236

5 жыл бұрын

@OAKMEGA JOESEPH And Harry Potter was a wizard that always fought for good. Oh and it's real cuz a book said so. Oh and Christians make billions of dollars every year by teaching fantasies to the masses.

@azhadial7396

5 жыл бұрын

@OAKMEGA JOESEPH There is no missing link. Species slowly evolve. And obviously, we don't have a fossil of each and every generation of the individuals we would consider a "transitional" form between our ape ancestor and the modern human (which is also an ape), so yeah we have gaps, but they are smaller than you think, and even having gaps won't invalidate the theory of evolution (although the bigger the gaps, the less we have proofs of our evolutionary history). Every species is transitional, the chimpanzee of todays are the transitional form between the chimpazees of yesterday and the chimpanzees of tomorrow. A transitional species is just a species that we identify as a species that is genetically inbetween an older species and one of its descendant species, but that means it is relative to the species you first choose as ancestor and descendant (you could choose the "transitional" species as the ancestor species, the starting species, meaning it would not make sense to say it is transitional in this context, and then choose a more modern form of the descendant species: that is a descendant of the descendant species, and bam! our initial descendant species is now considered a transitional species if we take those two others species as points of reference because it is historically and genetically inbetween the species we used as a reference). Evolutionnists change their mind, because they corrected themselves. And it is normal for a science in its early ages to make mistakes. But we are now completely sure that birds are descendants of dinosaurs. But it's weird to think that God made the human such that it shares 50% of its DNA (including a DNA that serves no or few purpose) with a freaking banana! It's weird to think that God just made transitional forms (genetically inbetween an ancient species and a modern one) of many species if they are not related. It's weird to think that plants were created before the sun according the genesis when they need photosynthesis to survive. It is weird to think that even Christians agree that the mechanisms of evolution do work when it comes to breeding dog, but these same Christians cannot consider for one second that there are no reason that those mechanism could work with all species at a much larger scale with enough time.

@Alex-tq4uo

5 жыл бұрын

@OAKMEGA JOESEPH You sound like the ape from futurama lol. There will always be a "missing link". That is how evolution works ha. Doesn't happen over night. And you do realize how rare it is for animals to fossilize?? There are some species that would never have been in a situation were they would ever fossilize. You seem to want evidence for evolution but even when presented evidence you reject it outright. Yet you believe in a religion that has ZERO verifiable evidence lol!!

@BT3701

4 жыл бұрын

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" Carl Sagan

@larjkok1184

4 жыл бұрын

BT3701 Sure it is.

“That’s actually exactly the definition of soundness. Do you have a valid and sound argument? Mostly I’d like to hear one here.” The co-hosts only 3 lines so far. She killed it!! Haha.

Waiter: Excuse me, Sir, did you order more word salad?? Derek: No man, I'm full with the first one.

Derek tries so hard. I wonder how many times he has called.

@davewilliams5102

4 жыл бұрын

badtz Qucik answer: Too many!

OMG. Derek just won't listen.

Derek: “LOOK WHAT I LEARNED IN MY PHILOSOPHY CLASS!!”

"What is your argument?" "(deflect...deflect...deflect) You said..." "No, I didn't. What's your argument?" "(Deflect...deflect...deflect) and you said..."

@GlossRabban

4 жыл бұрын

This is honestly poetry. :)

Starving children! Morality "Does your god see those children starving?" "Yes." "Does he have the power to feed them?" "Let me change the subject before I realize how evil my god would be if it existed." Answer this one question.. Please.. "If god exists yet he cannot protect children from being sexually abused in his own place of worship then what good is he?"

@jimwhitman2963

4 жыл бұрын

Great point!!!

@joecoolioness6399

2 жыл бұрын

What god would need DNA? What god would need disease to control population? What is the possible purpose of infants getting and dying from cancer? The last one is literally the only one I bring up when someone tries to convince me that some god created everything and is running the show.

Applause for the comment about this guy ringing Matt. Absolutely brilliant!

Remember in Stepbrothers when Dale punched the one called Derek? Where’s Dale when you need him?

Derek, like so many callers, claims to be marching under the flag of 'Clarification' and yet, intentionally or not, ends up fighting for "Obfuscation', resulting in zero useful exchange of ideas.

i enjoy this show. glad you make these.

Such a well deserved hangup on that chatterbox Derek

This dude wants to just hear his self talks.

@wendyfaulkner40

4 жыл бұрын

"Himself" not "his self"

@davewilliams5102

4 жыл бұрын

A. d. Derek has found a cure for insomnia!

"Why assume that the winning argument for god would be known everywhere?" Because I'm not a moron.

When does his point actually start? So much time spent effectively trying to say "You use X phrase wrong" to win a point. Saying absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.

i wouldnt have the patience for this..

Give it up, Derek 😂

It’s so exhausting when a caller thinks they know they’re talking about but doesn’t have a clue.

You guys are doing valuable work... and it seems you have a lot of work to do!

Daym! This guy is the best tap dancer I've ever heard!

@pincheositofeo6020

6 жыл бұрын

Bjorn Heath lmao

@indrasreincarnation205

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed lol

@TheBornagainheathen

6 жыл бұрын

Your one-upmanship is impeccable! We are not worthy. Remind me never to compete with you.

@silentotto5099

6 жыл бұрын

Bjorn Heath He's tap dancing for sure, but I don't think he's especially good at it. He's no Fred Astaire.

@meriksson3140

6 жыл бұрын

Mark from Canada is good too to tap dance

"Demonstrably" = Matt's favorite word.

@calebmauer1751

5 жыл бұрын

You have to agree that's demonstrably true, and I'm putting you on hold.

Does Derek maybe has this hidden sound argument which he never seems to arrive at? Spit it out then Derek, for your god's sake!

Those goalposts sure can get heavy if you carry them around for too long.

This is so fascinating! Good conversation!

@AdmiralBison

6 жыл бұрын

No, it wasn't. Derek didn't even present his argument for a god in nearly the whole 20 minutes.

I really enjoy this, thank you guys

The more I hear guys like Derek, the more I look to the sky for a big mf asteroid. I try to be optimistic about people but it gets harder by the day.

If gods really existed, you wouldn't need an argument for their existence any more than you need an argument for the existence of spiders because they would just show up and all you would have to do is point to them and say, "There they are." But no, you have to make believe that gods exist. What boggles my mind is how much time and energy so many people waste making believe and worshipping something that clearly isn't there. And to what end? A couple of weeks ago my aunt wanted some of the family to meet for lunch at 1 PM, then changed it to a late lunch/early dinner at 4 PM. When I showed up, I told her that I was glad she had changed the time to 4 PM because I would not have made it at 1 PM. She very earnestly said, "I know you don't believe it, but God has a way of making things work out." I just shrugged because I know that's how she believes. At the same time I'm amazed at this kind of thinking. If God can take time out of his busy schedule just to make our little lunch date work out, why can't God ever just show up? My aunt is so indoctrinated that without giving it any thought, she almost automatically makes believe that God somehow magically causes even the most mundane things to happen. What a mover that God, hè?

@OCDustin

5 жыл бұрын

Dude, i deal with the exact same thoughts regarding my own mother. She’s the same way, anything positive is attributed to god and his “grace” yet anything negative she usually says something like “well that’s life honey” I’m always thinking “well if we’re gonna give him credit can’t we blame him as well?” You know, from 18 to 30 years old i was an active addict, real bad off toward the end. MANY times, before i woke up 7 years ago, i would cry and pray for help. Hoping and waiting for intervention. Nothing, kept getting worse. At 30 years old i finally found a rehab that saved my life, but after i left the program (been clean ever since btw, 5+ years now) my family seems to give “all the glory to god” Where the FUCK was he before i lost my career, before i made several enemies and burned many bridges. The 14 months i was in rehab I AM THE ONE who went through it, learned and bettered myself. Why the absolute fuck do i have to suffer, then give credit to god for learning and bettering myself? I ended up telling her once “NO, he wasn’t there learning and growing. I was, give me the damn credit because y’all didn’t hesitate to crucify me for every mistake”. Needless to say we’re close, but we don’t discuss spirituality. Just my two cents

@colinjava8447

5 жыл бұрын

But if god can do mundane shit then he can also do good things, like preventing the holocaust. I suppose it at least proves god is evil if he is all powerful (and exists of course). David Hume sums it up better though "If God is omnipotent, omniscient and wholly good, whence evil? If God wills to prevent evil but cannot, then He is not omnipotent. If He can prevent evil but does not, then he is not good. In either case he is not God."

@colinjava8447

5 жыл бұрын

@Chris Stols seems you just made all that up. Gods existence hasn't even been proven yet, but you claim to know so much about god. Prove existence first then take it from there.

@colinjava8447

5 жыл бұрын

@Chris Stols in fact, atheists tend to know the bible better than theists do. Many people turn athiest after reading the bible. Don't you think Matt dillahunty knows the bible better than you, and he's an athiest. Your comment was not thought out well. There is no proof in the bible that god exists.

@colinjava8447

5 жыл бұрын

@Chris Stols what For, how does that show a god exists

Forgive me, but "oh God!!"

@davidstarks3308

5 жыл бұрын

Stanley Klein For what??

An argument that convinces no one isn't a good one.

Derek keeps pouring concrete...because he keeps moving the goalposts.

Unlike every god, ever, Derek has a good argument for the existence of gods. ...Nop, just like every god, ever.

Lol I love how feeble he looks trying to tear down Matt's position instead of establishing his own credible argument. Wonderful.

Note to all callers: please put down the bong before calling!

He had a sound argument---his argument made sound.

Hurts my head to listen to the callers, even basic common sense doesn’t reside in the brain

@diddleidle7174

6 жыл бұрын

Embrace the cringe.

@Metalheadz-xk5gi

6 жыл бұрын

Gordon Torney No shit

@nin_ten_do_yo

5 жыл бұрын

Clearly Jesus was speaking through him

"I'm not presenting evidence for the existence of God. I'm presenting the possibility that a good argument for the existence of God...might exist." -- Derek. (This caller. Or the Gervais character.)

@Cyba_IT

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on Bruce, good summation.

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cyba_IT Thanks. Please wait a year to reply, if at all. This post establishes that increment. And this frequency suits me.

It’s great when Matt exposes people who aren’t nearly as clever as they’d like to think. It’s so funny when some when can act so haughty taught, like they’re the intellectual one, whilst believing in the supernatural.

Gotta love the ending. Keep kicking ass Matt!!

This guy has a hard-on for Matt. He just wants to refute Matt's argument no matter how silly an argument Matt has made. Ridiculous.

Boy! The tap dancing is strong in this one! 😏

I appreciate that the titles of the recordings the topic discussed instead of "Atheist destroys [redundant adjective] Theist". Thank you for being respectful, TAE.

Love the show Matt!

Matt is awesome!

Mat, you have the patience of a saint

11:18 I love how the camera pans in on matt saying "if we're not aware of it, It doesn't exist"

Always callers, that I'm so grateful I don't know them. Imagine they are a relative, co-worker or boss, that you can't escape. Now that's hell.