A Few Words On Tekken Tag's So Called "Balance"
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But he has a hat
@diddlenfiddle7311
4 жыл бұрын
Explains alot
@bendover2684
4 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty Rad actually
@jebaite525
3 жыл бұрын
So cool
@CoolDima09
3 жыл бұрын
reason enough to pick him
@alessandroguarrera2203
3 жыл бұрын
Malibu Jackie
P.jack = punishable jack
@Carsu12
5 жыл бұрын
Punished Jack Directed by Hideo Kojima
@dltking25
5 жыл бұрын
Rodmar Tekken Fan: “Boy, I can’t wait to play as P. Jack in this new game!” Harada: *This* Tekken Fan: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHZ9xdiNfsfWhKw.html
@ZINGERS-gt6pc
5 жыл бұрын
Punching bag Jack
@undeadwolf-1178
4 жыл бұрын
Freakin genius
@feraldynaufal
4 жыл бұрын
@@Carsu12 IIRC the original Snake (Big Boss) real name is Jack, right?
They wanted to have a character for everyone in their game, so they made one for masochists.
@MrDamojak
5 жыл бұрын
lmao
@rogerjr.6588
5 жыл бұрын
I am for gentlemen.
@mamamoolover2534
5 жыл бұрын
Good one
@joshuaxiong8377
5 жыл бұрын
How very progressive of Namco at the time.
@bamse7958
5 жыл бұрын
i n c l u s i v i t y
5:25 this part destroyed my sides omg xD "IT'S NOT A JOKE" makes me wanna think you did this before lmao
@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443
3 жыл бұрын
Of course he did
I mean it's in his name... He was just a “Prototype”
@bamse7958
5 жыл бұрын
That idea must have been the reason he was made so shit. If not, he's absurdly poorly balanced.
@herokiryu2652
5 жыл бұрын
So is gigas.. a prototype
@bamse7958
5 жыл бұрын
Godlike t8 gigas confirmed
@HACKshader
5 жыл бұрын
Gigas mirrror in T8 Evo finals inc
@bamse7958
5 жыл бұрын
@@HACKshader LOL
I miss Jin's bitcrushed voice from Tekken 3. Reminds me of when the VA played DIO in that one JoJo arcade game.
@rikyoh130
5 жыл бұрын
That voice was so cool
@sebastienhahn_tk5171
5 жыл бұрын
The true "Ora"
@meshifuari4882
5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure obe of jins voice actors also voiced the arcade dio
@JetJenkins
5 жыл бұрын
@@meshifuari4882 I know. I said it.
@meshifuari4882
5 жыл бұрын
Jet Jenkins oh I read your comment wrong my bad
Point of playing P.Jack: Prove that you are leagues better than your oponent at the game.
@Regdren
5 жыл бұрын
If you land the spank throw, it doesn't matter what the game says. You won that match.
Notice how the floor of the temple moves in relation to the background, what the hell...
@ldking5132
5 жыл бұрын
No walls man, now walls
@charlesd-wayne9449
4 жыл бұрын
You know this game out 1999 right?
We need prototype Jack in t7 as a meme
@JunKazamaFan
5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Barrera TTT1 or TTT2 version? I approve of either option.
At least the graphics looked nice in TTG on PS2. Lol
@kris24_lawson
5 жыл бұрын
It did, but I think this is the remastered version
@rid2148
5 жыл бұрын
@@kris24_lawson perhaps it's ps2 emulator? (hi-res etc.)
@kris24_lawson
5 жыл бұрын
@@rid2148 definitely not, he's playing tekken tag HD on the ps3. Even with the upscaling on the ps2 emulator, it would not look as good and run so cleanly, regardless of his machine.
@monkeyjesus3470
4 жыл бұрын
@@kris24_lawson that literally makes no sense my dude
@xkai84
4 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyjesus3470 he's not wrong, this is literally the remastered version for the PS3
Back in the day nobody cared about balancing those characters were just there for the aesthetic
@acydrayn73
5 жыл бұрын
That's just not true.
@yure3124
5 жыл бұрын
@@acydrayn73 It's true to me at least where i grew up no one cared about balance everyone just played who they liked
@acydrayn73
5 жыл бұрын
@@yure3124 yeah that's how fighting games are, people play who they like. But the pros have always and will always care about balance.
@DoubleBeast
5 жыл бұрын
I can understand making cool characters broken, but it's like they went out of their way to make P. Jack completely shit.
@yure3124
5 жыл бұрын
@@acydrayn73 i agree with that but I'm no pro so i really wouldn't care as long as i had my favourite character i would play
missing a few important things here: Jacks were heavy and class 4 launchers only gave float juggles against them. Tag had stamina classes. Jacks had more health than the average character. Devil had way more than Heihachi. Ling was terrible. I would love for Kuma to have higher health and the old weight back. Made the game more dynamic.
Stuff like that serves well to notice how things evolve, Harada himself stated on an interview that back in the T3/TTT1 days, those games cant even be considered fighting games and says literally "Idk what the hell we were thinking" but again is nice to see how Tekken has evolved.
@MrOzzification
5 жыл бұрын
Ye the balance in those games was terrible. Mishimas, Ogres & Changs reigned supreme in those games...& Jin was still head & shoulders above even them.
@pimpsonparade
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrOzzification really, as in Michelle and Julia? I never really imagined those two being that strong.
@alessandroguarrera2203
3 жыл бұрын
IDK, I'd say T3 was much better balanced than TTT1.
@mikehawk4477
3 жыл бұрын
Tekken 3 wasn’t that bad wtf lol
@Strizz484
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikehawk4477 yeah it was, game was broke af with Ogre, Jin, Hei & Lei above everyone with Law, Nina, Paul right behind them. Everyone has dirt but those characters are braindead / unbeatable in the right hands in T3
prototype jack was my favorite character because he had funny throws and sidestep 2
Aaaahhhh, Jin doing electrics........ Good memories
Try both Ogres... If I remeber correct in tourneys back in the days everybody used Mishimas & Ogres. I used King & Wang (King is my main. Wamg is secondary - both since Tekken 1). Oh you already did! XD
Only OG’s remember the Mohawk
Mainman's handwriting is damn good, easy to understand and stylish.
My favorite stage! I like how you explain P.Jack on the "Ramp-Romp" stage Kappa
Double D: "IT'S A PROTOTYPE!"
@XxhadoukenxX
5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@fabrizioarezzesse716
5 жыл бұрын
Ed, Edd n Eddy....Damn
This stage looks so like Howard Stage in T7.
@Bitterman97
5 жыл бұрын
This is honmaru know your lore...
@Enigmo1
5 жыл бұрын
@@Bitterman97 uh what? honmaru is a closed room with high ceilings. this is more like the tekken 6 stage Noh Theater
@sssgaming612
5 жыл бұрын
@@Enigmo1 i hope you are not serious with this comment
@shenelljohnson74
5 жыл бұрын
Y'all do realize this is Jin stages right, it tells you on the soundtrack. Not really but the stages play's his Tag theme on here. And it Says Jin theme or whatever.
@strykah92
5 жыл бұрын
Howard Estate? Honmaru? This is Tiger Dojo Tokyo. Get it right kids.
Yo TMM these legacy videos are awesome. Just so you know
Dude look at prototypes torso hahaha his upper body is looking like its sliding off 😂😂
@shenelljohnson74
5 жыл бұрын
Ok i thought i my eyes was playing tricks on me but it sure does👀
these older tekken videos are life
Man...in Tekken 2 he was a BEAST ! With 5 moves and you were dead!! In TTT it was just a compilation of all the games till then and of course things changed ! Still looks great and is nostalgia!
@tlrulebender2003
5 ай бұрын
According to a certain Japan KZreadr yeah no, he's pretty much sh'tty in Tekken 2 when I asked him about tier placement
Bad drum Dead drum Brum brum Hwoarang...
Why's KZread have Mortal Kombat in the description of this video? Is it confusing Tekken Tag 1 for Mortal Kombat?
I think Namco should update Jack 7 by introducin a new p Jack, who's slimmer, and faster.
TTT1 P.JACK FOR TEKKEN 7 HARADA
@JunKazamaFan
5 жыл бұрын
Zoltan Rostas-Secola Win an online match with him for your money back guaranteed!
Someone said Tekken 7 is balanced? Leroy has enter the chat.
Did you remember to tell everybody how the tag button magically turned all electrics into mids? Pepperidge farm remembers.
You know there's an issue just looking at P Jack's stance - what kind of stance do you call that? What's he doing with his hands for Pete's sake?
I fell like this is just another P. Jack video and not a tag 1 video lmao
Tekken Tag Tournament might’ve had balancing issues, but I still think it’s a great Tekken game! 😊
@jomerbongalos2065
5 жыл бұрын
most characters from tekken 3 got new tools, and the roster increased significantly. And it was arguably more interesting to play than 3
@hayabuzon8219
2 жыл бұрын
Filia
As a kid, Prototype Jack was my favorite character to use
@JunKazamaFan
3 жыл бұрын
He is still one of my favorites.
P. Jack looks much better than Jack though...
Leave Prototype Jack alone. leAVe hiM AlonE _!_
@JunKazamaFan
5 жыл бұрын
Darko Corp HE'S A HUMAN! ... Wait...
How many people used to lose matches to cpu jack
Back then people didn't have the internet to share and view each other's cheese. Those that could figure it out on their own were rewarded.
You might be able to win with Jin like that, but you'll never want to use that stick again.
Anyone Remember Tekken Bowling? That Mode is so Nostalgic to me.
Guess this is why P.Jack didn't make the cut in future Tekken games other than Tag 2 like his better counter part, Jack
5:24 pls show this close up on ph
Its like heroes in a kids cartoon fighting villains
2:40---3:29 When they buffed Lars on Tekken 7
Now do a story mode run with P.jack on max difficulty. Lol
Hello main man first of all its not my real name but setting that aside you are the best you tuber I have ever watched and I wait everyday for your vids absolutely love your vids. Can u make a mods showcase if you can of course?
any reason why don't you go pro? i mean with all the TWT stuff running
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
He can do PEWGFs 3 times in a row, uses every characters on every Tekken game, can you do that?
Bruce Irvin: TTT1 is the first game I had officially learned him in. #BruceRyuken
What a kickass stage
@stylesheetra9411
5 жыл бұрын
Yes it's wonderful
Always thought the P stood for private
Should have called him C Jack Comboed Jack
How to avoid it P Jack approach enemy on Tekken tag please make how to defeat on P Jack approach enemy
Yo TMM do u plan to open a tekken school..
@EraseTime
5 жыл бұрын
I can teach you I play at offline tournaments
I remember that Bruce in Tekken 2 could take off...I'd say aound 85% of your HP with just one throw chain? Some of the sub-bosses are harder than the actual bosses, that's all I'm gonna say.
I mained Julia in tag 1 I had more fun than most people :p
That Bruce combo on Prototype Jack is just the B's knees.
Such a beautiful game
on ttt1 bruce has 3,2,1 as a launcher he is also overpowered in that game. oncee 3 connects 1 will always launch.
5:25 LOOL
5:30 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
the only time picking p jack would be a good idea is vs devil since twin pistons can't launch him lol.
@Autoswitched
5 жыл бұрын
@@Leadblast wgf is still -10 lol and can be blocked in crouch anyway lol.
it is not about winning. every character had its unique perk.
I am sure they did this on purpose, Prototype Jack seems to be a joke character, intended to use in casual scenarios by decent players when they are playing against really awful players that don't have an idea of what they are doing or something.
Sry, 4 years late, but... It was difficult to execute, but against Jacks, Jin could also get: launch, b,f+2>1>2, b,f+2,1,2
P jack hands makes me uncomfortable
The P doesn’t stand for Prototype, it stands for Pitiful
You need Just to know that , this game in it Time was like just now Tekken 7 ! one of the best fighting games of late 90s and early 2000s no dobut !
Why would you ever pick pjack? Look at the hands. Look at the hat. How can you not play pjack?
@genzo454
4 жыл бұрын
So I can have attacks that aren't minus on hit
Did he really made a vid to beat Poor Jack
Here are the words. "There is none." Video over.
yay
I remember people acting like they know tekken disappointed how proto jack is not on tekken 7
Make a p.jack combo video but it's a black screen the entire video
He's like a crash dummy for combo videos
this reaches Melee levels of umbalanced
@lesleyblackvelvet5802
4 жыл бұрын
He's gonna try Melee next week. Can't wait to see his reaction XD
Ah yes. Balance
I think, it's just in his name, you know... PROTOTYPE. So they just tested new character, bigger etc. etc. "Hey! Let's make a PROTOTYPE Jack" Prototype? "Yea! Just for testing!" Ohhh ok, it will be something new. Kappa
I love TTT1 to death. It's super turbo for old school tekken-heads...but yeah, this game was not balanced AT ALL one thing to note about the damage thing: P.Jack did have some of the higher health in the game. Doesn't make up for how much more he took, ESPECIALLY with the hold tech roll/ground hitting system where you couldn't tech when you were low to the ground.
Give him a break TMM, he was just a prototype.
4:26
They Should bring P.Jack back to T7 and Buff the Hell out of him. His unique moves are so awesome. Does anyone else know about Dragon Jack???
@shenelljohnson74
5 жыл бұрын
There prototype Jack , gun Jack, and Jack 1 through 7, i Never heard of a dragon Jack but it well be sick if he exist.
@Jose-xm3tq
5 жыл бұрын
@@shenelljohnson74 Look it up
@strykah92
5 жыл бұрын
“Dragon Fighting Jack” is an urban myth.
@Jose-xm3tq
5 жыл бұрын
@@strykah92 Hahaha
@fabrizioarezzesse716
5 жыл бұрын
Is more than a myth. Namco was thinking to add a character with Jack damage potential and Law "speed" in Tekken 1 when it was only in Arcades. Then they abandoned the idea cause it would be too op (but they gave king a +93 move, ok).
I think that the developers thought that the people wont dig so deep into the game and will only play for fun. so who cares about balancing ? if your player base are casuals only it doesnt matter how unbalanced the characters are... p.jack just looked different and thats what make him interesting
TT1 in a nutshell: Balance? The hell does Balance mean?
Im laughing my ass of... Sticking the Controller in the ass and still winning, how funny is that!!! You are getting to an big entertainer MainMan and of course to an great Tekken player! Keep the wiwiwawy good work!
@rogerjr.6588
5 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@seywel9635
5 жыл бұрын
Fuck him while you're at it.
@shenelljohnson74
5 жыл бұрын
WTF.. did i just read?😐
That Bruce knee knee knee knee combo is super ugly.
i don't think that Tag 1 Devil could be higher as Devil Jin / Jin maybe he could be right under devil jin by 1 pixel tho
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
Devil only needs 2 moves, and then you are good to go, Devil Jin takes some executions.
@cank2111
2 жыл бұрын
@@Adam7180 same with t7 dj, hellsweep or uf4
Still bashing on my 4th favorite Tekken game lol
at least he is not french
Why does the camera move all the time in this game
@EthelonYT
5 жыл бұрын
But only with Bruce wtf
@stylesheetra9411
5 жыл бұрын
It's based around your characters movement, and some char move a lot during their idle stance
For me, it honestly feels good to know how terrible P-Jack is as a character. When I was younger, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 was my first Tekken game, and P-Jack absolutely terrified me, like to the point of shutting of my Wii U, and leaving the room whenever I had to play against him, I even have vivid memories of my Dad forcing me to sit down and play against P-Jack to help me get over my fear of him. Fast forward to present day, and I see this, and the 4th Grader inside me is screaming in joy.
TMM all those Jin combos can be done on all or most characters. Jin gets 2 laser scrapers on all jacks. but tbh the balancing is what makes this game so charming and fun to play.
Also P Jack was fan service for the most part, any of us that came from the Tekken 2 era remember him well. Tag was about stacking the roster high. And again before the huge KZread and social media many couldn't spread the imbalances that existed, at least widely.
Wtf this means that anyone can play with jin by one means to not play P. Jack!?
Yup! He's probably right. Tekken tag 1 is just so unbalanced. But this tekken is the one started the whole tekken tournament.
Devil or true ogre?
Why does everyone shit on Gigas? Every time I use him, I win.
@joshtq1912
4 жыл бұрын
You've never lost a match with gigas?
@Jetanium
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshtq1912 No. I rarely use him but when I do, people don't know what to expect and that helps a lot. No matchup knowledge. People wrote him off since day one and I'm the only Gigas I've seen online.
I feel offended. Prototype-Jack is my favourite character.
@marlonmontelhiggins8570
5 жыл бұрын
As do I. He's one of my favourites.
@mammoh
5 жыл бұрын
Ffs people! He's not saying that your character is shit in design or appeal or whatever. He's just describing on how weak the developers made him. My fking god, this shit is obvious
Rusty prototype shit 😂😂
I hope you go ober the f2p tekken fpr ps3 that got me into the series
@keeyon012
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's able to be played anymore.
@kiraangle2823
5 жыл бұрын
@@keeyon012 ah thats a shame
@justsomesmoldemoninabox5146
5 жыл бұрын
He could analyze his TR matches.