I have the Sennelier Paynes grey and the Winsor Newton. Sennelier is more neutral, but I do like the WN, it's more bluish tone mixes really good dark greens with Cad or Indian yellow and great dropped wet in wet into green foliage to create smooth darker tone and shadows. Senelier tends to brown out with Cad yellow, creating dull olive greens . Placed wet in wet to a transparent green like Sap, Senelier PG appears to show up its black content more, just like dropping in say an ivory black. I have now moved on to Perylene green for this function and appreciate the Sennelier Paynes grey as a general purpose neutral - sometimes with a touch of Burnt Sienna to vary its warmth.

I think Payne‘s grey is one of my favorites... recently it started to remind me a lot of indigo. Today i tried to do a little comparison of two of them, but I should probably use more brands for a nice comparison. Also Schmincke has a super bluish Payne‘s grey, which is just lovely. Some call Payne’s grey the devil, but I completely love it.

ahhh, more greys.... thank you Teoh. Out of these three my favourite is the DS one, it has such a nice indigo touch. I'll put it on my wishlist ~sigh~ Before I buy even more colours I firstly need to practice my drawing, uhm, skills ;) I'm a big fan of being confident on basics before moving on ;) But gosh, this colour is really gorgeous....

I love Payne's Grey. I had no idea there were so many variations! Thanks for another helpful video.

Love Paynes grey. Funny you came out with this video today as I just got done mixing paynes grey with all my blue paints. Doing a color swatchbook and I came up with some very interesting shades of blues using paynes grey.

Would love to see a video on color mixing with payne's gray! That blue undertone is really interesting.

I adore Payne's Grey!! It is phenomenal to work with & compliments so many colors! Thx for sharing!!🖤✔🖤💙🖤

Thanks a lot for this video. It came at the right time when I was looking for Payne's gray recipe.

Thank you for all your videos Teoh. You have been extremely helpful.

@teohyc

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome 😁

its amazing how the different paints have different effects once put on paper, I also like the textures that have more of rock like formation. the payne's gray with blue tones is very nice.

Thanks for yet another wonderful video! The first watercolor tube I ever bought was the W&N (professional) Paynes Grey, as it is one of my favourite colors!

Wow the Senellier's one is beautiful!

Really enjoyed this. I knew Blockx had a great reputation in oils, glad not to add it to my watercolor wish list. Love seeing the DS painting. Really beautiful. So many graceful notes compared to black.

I have QoR's and it's incredibly pigmented which took me a long time to get used to! Lots of unintentional dark spots. It looks similar to Daniel Smith's.

Thanks Teoh, this comparison is very interesting. I use this mini Waterbox when I paint on a trip and I love french brand Sennelier very much. Honey - based pigments make the colors more bright. I find the gray of Payne of your example a good proof of the quality.

Beautiful sketch🌟

I love using payne's grey,sometimes i use it for black. The senellier grey looks like the kind of payne's grey i look to use,but comparing the daniel smith (in relation to the screen of my tablet because the colors may appear differntly in reality) looks similar to my holbein one.i might purchase the senellier one.thanks teoh!Very well thought out and informative video. :3

youtube is freaking me out!!! it knows my favorite color!

I like that the sennelier doesn't granulate. I don't want texture in my sky. Paynes Grey is such a perfect colour for skies.

Teoh, I watched your video on 4k for the first time and enjoyed it so f****** much!!!! :D loved the granulation the Blockx had, I think its my favorite:) beautiful sketch as always:)

@teohyc

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😁

It's lovely to know you are not using sable brush, but a cruelty free one... They are very good these days!

I like Daniel Smith's version of Payne's Gray the best. 😄 It's a very beautiful color indeed. Thanks for the comparison Teoh. 👍

One of my all time favourite colours! Have you tried the Schmincke ones? I really like them!

Good video. I did not know that many paynes gray tubes included black pigments

I like the Schmincke : Horadam Watercolour Paynes Grey (Blue)

Thanks for this comparison, Teoh, and for letting us download your photo reference for our own value study. What do you think about neutral tint? Just wondering how it compares with Payne's grey, because it looks grey to me. Thank you!

@LilDivette

5 жыл бұрын

Esther Sugai I have the same question for Teoh: what's the difference or situations in which you would use Payne's Grey versus Neutral tint? Both mix to create similar muted colors. I'd like to learn more about how these two colors compare so I can decide which to include in a palette. TIA!

I think that some paint manufacturers have now come out with a Payne's Gray, blue shade. I wondered whether all Bloxx colors are that hard to activate? Would warm/hot water help? I guess that might wreck your brushes though.

@teohyc

5 жыл бұрын

Some Blockx colours dry hard. But thanks for the tip, I'll try warm water and see what happens

I get a great warmish concrete-like gray color when I mix Payne's Gray with Sepia (both W&N prof). Too bad I can't post a picture example here! I want to recreate the color with Daniel Smith paint, but first I have to do some pigment research, I think ;-)

The Daniel Smith one is my favorite. I have trouble finding a Paynes Grey in gouache. Any recommendations?

Thank you for sharing this. It's amazing I have been working on a Daniel Smith palette this August. Tomorrow morning (the 31st) is my last run to get colors. I was totally on the fence about getting the Paynes gray, because I have moon glow and bloodstone as well as, the neutral tint from DS. After seeing this, I really want the DS Paynes Gray. Thank your for such a timely (for me) and educational demonstration to Payne's Gray. Since you did the painting in DS Payne's Gray can we assume that you prefer DS's? lol

@teohyc

6 жыл бұрын

I do prefer DS version because it looks "more true" to what I have in mind for Payne's Gray

@katf3836

6 жыл бұрын

Teoh Yi Chie I agree. That's why I am getting it this afternoon, (since it is already tomorrow) lol

Mind making a video about the basics of taking care of fountain pens? I'm interested in them but am worried about not taking good care of them.

@teohyc

5 жыл бұрын

The general tip is to wash them if you don't plan on using them for a long time. If you use fountain pens frequently, you can wash them every couple of weeks, maybe 3-4 weeks.

Since Daniel Smith's Payne's Gray is Black+Ultramarine, and Sepia is Black+Burnt Umber, will mixing them make an interesting black/gray?

What's the gorgeous pink color at 6:40?

The blocke one would be great for rocks a d stonework on buildings

How to paint over Payne’s fray

I prefer W&N professional