I did the exact same thing. Love it. Can get to wires, add what ever you want. I've added eye bolts to add climbing wall, hand holds, trx bands, hammocks and outdoor playground gear. On carabiners and move them around as needed. Add chase pipes for networking into other rooms, or up to the next floor. Then you have super easy access. Can lights can be added even with this type of ceiling too. Or use the wafer lights with no can.

I love the tiles, they needed them to look that good decades ago.

Thanks for the video Andrew! I've been following your videos for the last year while refinishing my basement. Currently installing the drop ceiling and your video provided some clarity.

Wow Andrew! Your talent, artistry and craftsmanship will pay off highly if you ever rent/sell this property. Your before/after views are the most dramatic and memorable. Everyone will want to do to their home what you have accomplished in yours. Thanks again for a great show.

@AndrewThronImprovements

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, Patrick! Should hopefully be a rental soon...I am running out of projects haha. Thanks again for the continued support of the channel!

@patricksmith3135

Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewThronImprovements Hmmm. I am thinking of all the great new projects, product upgrades since you started, and the greatest new series of videos. Also, the rental idea should provide you an income to finance the new house. Will you live there while you upgrade? Is all your equipment up to the task? Need upgrades (portable table saw)! 😇😊

I have really enjoyed watching this 'series'! The basement is really coming together! The ceiling panels are just beautiful! From drab and deary to absolutely fabulous. Looking forward to the final reveal! Lol you've give us tidbits along the way but it's not the same.

@AndrewThronImprovements

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate you watching!! Final reveal will be coming soon! I also added a bathroom to the basement that I need to make a few videos on as well. Thanks for the support!

Definitely better than other drop ceilings but Drywall still looks better.

@Botanical4038

6 ай бұрын

"I installed plastic plates on my ceiling! It definitely looks better than that stupid old drywall!" ffs

@abacab87

6 ай бұрын

Yea, whenever I see suspended ceilings in a house, I wonder what they are hiding behind it. It's okay in a basement it's just that most can't afford to lose 3-4".

@vincentjoly9230

6 ай бұрын

Looks like it’s coming straight from the 80s. No way I would put this in my $1M home that was worth $80k in the 80s.

@ronnietruman7296

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, any drop ceiling that aligns with the top of the door jam is not ideal. I have a walkout with full height ceiling and am removing the existing tiles to reclaim the height.

@danholtbk7008

5 ай бұрын

@@vincentjoly9230If my house was only worth $1M dollars I would bulldoze it.

Great video on installing drop ceiling, I'm going to attempt my kitchen and bath !

Absolutely awesome! I can't wait to do me basement ceiling with this! Thank you!!!!

Nice job the panels look classier than the flat ones

I know finished ceilings look better but I’m so happy I went with drop ceiling. I’ve had 2 plumbing issues that resulted in me replaced 2 drop ceilings. That job would’ve been such a pain if it was sheet rock.

Very nice, and easy to understand

I just came across this channel and just wanna say I wish I was as talented as you are!!

When you do your boarder, divide your demanding space by 2 then add back half the materials dimension to get the largest piece. It looks nicer in the end

Fantastic video, I have a 1600 sqft Rec room, I will be doing and this helped greatly Thanks

Great video! Short and to the point.

Nice job Andrew. Looks Great!

@AndrewThronImprovements

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Diane! Appreciate it!

the detail. i love it.

@AndrewThronImprovements

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, Niko! Thanks for watching!

Thank you

I did the same to my basement 15 years ago. I love the easy access to the subfloor. I can’t tell how many times I was in there running Ethernet, speaker cables, or repairing broken water pipes over the years - all would have required major ceiling repair if it had been drywall.

@JasonEllingsworth

6 ай бұрын

I would rather paint the open joists black, than put in an acoustical ceiling. Maybe it's because I have done commercial construction for 20+ years, but I can't stand seeing them in any home.

good choice going with rockwool.

Hello my fellow Andrew!! You are a freakin' God sent! Bless you brother

@AndrewThronImprovements

10 ай бұрын

Glad the video helped!

Like it and will be using it

Very well done 👍

@AndrewThronImprovements

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Yakub! Appreciate it!

These panels are great! I applied them directly to an ugly popcorn ceiling using silicone.

Omg awesome video

Looks good

I would do this in a heartbeat if I had an unfinished basement. I wish I had one now, so many little HVAC and builder issues I could fix cheaply or just my time, if I didnt have a drywalled ceiling. Or if you need to pull wire for an upgrade, or get to plumbing etc. if we ever have something that requires tearing down the drywall, I will replace it with this for future access

1 did that 40 years ago the lower level of my split level house I also added coax cable and need it when adding electrical switches and outlets so I had a bathroom bedroom utility room washer and dryer and finally a recreation room

I always wanted to replace our rectangle panels (classroom/office style) with these but they cost alot more. Having a drop ceiling in general is so much better than drywall. I can't recall how many time in the last 15 years we had to remove the panels to pass some wires or make some changes to it ( new electric wires, new network cables, new tv cables, new this and that) . For our EV car we had to run a 50A wire and i can't image how expensive and time consuming it would have been to fish a 75 feet of 50A through a dry ceiling. I say for basement, always use panel.. not to mention water flooding above.. those panels can be replaced easily if wet. Not drywall. But the rectangle old dusty office style is alot cheaper..

Thanks for the video. I am working on a similar project and checked out the drop ceiling at Armstrong, but a lot of their options are out of stock. They seem to only have the standard tiles in stock while all the more interesting pattern ones are out of stock with no info of when they'll be back in stock.. guess I'll go check around for other drop ceiling brands. Would have bought from them after seeing your video if they had stock.

I like the idea of it. Expensive sure, but compared to replacing sections of dry wall from water damage it beats that. Easier access for utilities and future utility installs would shave hours of time off and that time would add up to the cost of the whole ceiling all over again.

Looks great. Does Armstrong have info on required minimum space between panels and joists? My ceiling is about 7' maybe +2", so I don't want to go too low. Thank you.

Did you have any problems later tucking the wall molding in the corners? Good bud. 👍🏻

Do you need to plan out and run the wires for the recessed lighting before you install your drywall?

💥 Thank you for all of this great info. I’ve never seen a ceiling that had two completely different styles of panels in it. Are those thin PVC panels strong enough to support recessed lighting for a length of time?

@lordgarth1

Жыл бұрын

Those are flat led panels don’t weigh but a few ozs

You can actually buy corner fasteners for the outside edges for a nice clean finished look. Also, for inside corners, you can notch a single length of edging & bend one over the other onto 90 degrees.

@YAWN....

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Dad...

Nice where do I get the recessed lights?

What recessed lighting did you use?

I can barely draw a straight line with a ruler. I have to appreciate your talent

I live right beside a track track that shakes the house multiple times a day for the last 80 years when a train goes by… could I still do this or will it mess everything up from the shaking

thanks brotha we have a huge building to do all drop ceiling with cement walls 😮‍💨

@AndrewThronImprovements

Жыл бұрын

Good luck!

Nice drop ceiling….❤😊

That is amazing! I can only hope to do as good of a job..lol Can you tell me what grid system/brand you used, and where purchased? I'm having so much trouble finding anything local that is PVC and "in store"...everything is online and there are so many options...SMH.. I just want to be able to do this semi-easily, if that is such a thing! That never happens..lol That said, are you in New York per chance? Do you do side jobs? I am planning on attempting myself, but if I can get someone who knows what they're doing, that would be a lot better of course! LOL! Thanks! I see that this was posted about 7 months ago so I doubt I'll get a reply, but here's hoping! Thanks!!!

Thought it was "planned" properly using the armstrong website but when you have a can light in a drop ceiling and it ends up right on a wall, zero planning or forethought was involved. Did the panels end up evenly spaced in the room?

I have a ceiling that is angled from one side of the room to another, the drop is about 1' and the wide of the room is 12'. Overall the room is about 12'x28', Will this work where the ceiling will not be level?

How's gonna stop moisture from getting into the ceiling panels?

Andrew, the basement has turned out great! So where do you go from here? How about a new roof? HaHa! Cheers! Thomas!

@AndrewThronImprovements

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, Thomas! And I think you nailed it - hopefully a new roof coming this spring 👍

I followed your instructions and ended up with a problem. You called for installing all the main beams and then check for square. That will be a problem if you don't have square walls which I didn't and I think that is not uncommon. After installing all the main beams and putting in the first cross "T's", I checked for square and was off 3/8" on the diagonals. Now I had a choice to make: redo all the main beams or go ahead and suffer the consequences. I chose to suffer rather than the expense of wasting the main beams that I already cut and installed. BIG MISTAKE! If I ever do a ceiling again, I will install 2 main beams and then attach 2 cross "T's" and check for square. That way, I only waste one main beam - hopefully! I didn't have a laser level - maybe that would have been better.

What is the STC rating of the drop ceiling panel system?

It's nice

@AndrewThronImprovements

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice video. Installed a large drop ceiling in my previous home by myself. Would recommend putting pop rivets through the wall corners where drop ceiling aluminum track sections meet to hold them together. I also overlapped inside corner edges as well and pop riveted those so they had a nice finished appearance. While it's more work wire tying with installed eye lag screws is best and most secure way to have drop ceiling installed. Inspectors at my last house told me i needed to teach all the contractors in the area how to install a drop ceiling lol.

How a simple piece of foam cost this much per SF is beyond me. But install is great!

@silverbackag9790

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it’s mineral wool. Most are. Some are MDF or a mixture.

It looks good for drop. But it still looks bad because it’s drop; drywall always looks better. I’m currently just spraying the ceiling of my basement with black paint and that’s the best way to go. Maximum height, maximum accessibility, least work and cost.

Looks great. What insulation do you used ?

@AndrewThronImprovements

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! It’s “Safe N Sound” insulation

And now it's time to turn on the subwoofer to hear the beautiful music those panels make.

gewd jaub on da sealing pannels. :)

@AndrewThronImprovements

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

How much headroom did you lose in your basement?

Why would you want to bend the wire and not cut it if you have an obstruction?

how do you install a suspended ceiling around windows?

How much lower than the joists are your tiles? Looking to do this with my basement but I don’t want to lose as much ceiling height as it looks like you were able to afford here.

@Eugene_Connor

10 ай бұрын

Look at the video starting around 7:00 and you can see how far below the joists the bottom of the main beams lie. The panels will rest on the bottom of the main beams, and maybe come down below it a little bit. Looks like you'll lose 2.0 to 2.5 inches in ceiling height.

@StevenPfeiffer

9 ай бұрын

I’m in the same boat. Most manufacturers say it should be 4” from the joist. I’m going to hug the ceiling as close as I can

If its good for 60 years then its excellent.

Cheers to the future renovators removing this ceiling.

Is it affordable?

My ocd couldn’t handle the second title not being the exact same color or design of the main tiles. This is a no go for me

@GiganticAntics

7 ай бұрын

Your OCD won't be able to handle holes in your drywall when you have a pipe leak and you have to bust it out instead of just remove 1 tile and replace.

@Conradlovesjoy

7 ай бұрын

Could easily build a soffit around the edge instead of that small tile.

@xenidus

6 ай бұрын

That's insane that they don't have a color matched option...

How much did this project cost you

Could you tell us how much you spent on doing the whole basement? And how much you potentially saved by doing it yourself

@Eugene_Connor

10 ай бұрын

Can't beat the price of light sheetrock for the ceiling: right now at Home Depot it's $14 for a 1/2 inch x 4' x 8' (= 32-sq. ft.) USG sheetrock panel. That's $0.44 per sq ft.

What is your length of screws and size you used on the Border walls ?

@AndrewThronImprovements

10 ай бұрын

I believe 1.25”

Looks great, awesome video dude!

@AndrewThronImprovements

6 ай бұрын

I appreciate it! Thanks for watching

Drop ceilings allow easier access to any associated cabling / pipes instead of having to take a section of sheetrock out.

My ocd can not handle no mitre to the internal corner 🙈🤔

What did you use to cut that?

@theeguyman

Жыл бұрын

snips

drywall looooks sooooo much better... this looks like a Honda covered in Vynil graphixs, sure looks great 😮

And it's probably way more expensive too! 😄

I don’t own a house with a basement but I watched this all the way through

@AndrewThronImprovements

4 ай бұрын

I appreciate you, Jay 🙏

@jaysmith6013

4 ай бұрын

@@AndrewThronImprovements And I appreciate your incredible talent and putting it out for us to learn from! I’m house shopping now and my mind is consumed with all the diy projects I’ll be taking on soon

Curreact

What is your distance between joist and ceiling?

@AndrewThronImprovements

24 күн бұрын

Around 4”

@melvinbeboso1656

24 күн бұрын

Why did you choose drop instead of drywall?I'm finishing my basement I already did sidewall but I have extra drywall so I'm planning to use it for ceiling,but what I've read is that ceiling first before sidewall, you think can I still do drywall?

It amazes me that this is cheaper to have done than drywall.

Those panels seems a lot better than the one I have here which are the usual flat rectangle ones that makes tons of dust, especially when you dare moving one to look at anything.

@AndrewThronImprovements

10 ай бұрын

These are PVC - most of the others are mineral fiber

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Just because something is easier doesn’t mean it looks better. Drywall for the win

I will admit it looks nice in other homes😁 nothing beats drywall IMO

@AndrewThronImprovements

8 ай бұрын

haha I hear ya. Thanks for watching!

Those border pieces would be better if they were each 12” larger,

nice product but the borders kills it!!!!

Those busy tiles look ridiculous in a room with 7-foot ceilings.

ya no. this just looks like slightly nicer drop grid ceiling. It still looks way cheaper that drywall wherever it's installed. BUT for access purposes especially in basements it's a better choice than drywall if you feel you will need access to what's up there.

This has got to be the dummest comment section I’ve been to in a long time. I think the tiles look great for being a drop ceiling, and the whole point is to access things easily for repairs etc! I’m pretty handy so I think I would just go with drywall and deal with any water damage if that ever became an issue. I redid my camper with PEX, and though it didn’t leak without caulk, I did add it to all the pipe joints as an added layer of protection, because of the whole process to redo everything was a big project. Been using it since 2021 with no issues. I would do the same for any plumbing in a house for peace of mind, especially if it’s buried in a wall or ceiling

The ceiling looks better than I expected, but I think I would still have preferred a drywall ceiling.

@AndrewThronImprovements

8 ай бұрын

I hear ya! Thanks for watching!

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, indeed. Fake-ass beveled panels and suspended ceiling beams just don't do it for me unless I'm in a hospital, cheap office or some lame-ass basement.

What what warped ceiling tiles

I still prefer Drywall, is more uniform and modern, and you get the extra few inches of ceiling

i don't like the border panels it totally ruins it for me.

Now drop the arm workout.

definitely rather have drywall

Almost anything looks better than drywall. Even beadboard. I’ll take it any day over drywall.

Tuck inside corner BUT NOT outside corner????? uhhhhh

I don’t understand all the negativity. The whole point of drop ceiling in a basement is to be able to access the wires and pipes. Which you can’t do with drywall…

@AndrewThronImprovements

3 күн бұрын

Agreed!

Fuk what Armstrong recommends, I say cut the end of the panels to fit in those smaller space to make look like the coffer design continues

looks nice, but WAY too much work, Id rather do drywall and put moulding on it for design

No it doesn't look better than drywall. No matter what you do, drop ceilings look like garbage. It isn't difficult to do painted flat black open joists which look WAY better, or go with drywall and include a couple decorative access panels in key areas so you can still run cables where needed.

Not a good idea if you want a movie setup. Tons of rattles