A Domestic Failure That Became An International Success | Curtiss P-36 Hawk [Aircraft Overview #33]

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In the early 1930s the biplane was giving way to the monoplane, and one of the first all-metal fighters to be produced in the United States was the Curtiss P-36 Hawk.
It did not have an easy birth, in fact its time in the U.S was plagued with mechanical problems, delays, and general development issues. However it redeemed itself overseas where it served with a variety of nations (sometimes unwillingly). It was one of the planes operated by both the allies and the axis during WW2, and although it was obsolete by 1940, it played a vital role during the Battle of France.
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  • @RexsHangar
    @RexsHangar2 жыл бұрын

    I Made some slight creative changes to the thumbnail and video editing, hope you like it :) F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible. Feel free to leave you questions below - I may not be able to answer all of them, but I will keep my eyes open :)

  • @cxcgamer1603

    @cxcgamer1603

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please take look at favorite aircraft the fw190 a1-a5 cause it just like me heavy and not very maneuverable but fast cant give a hit and take hit

  • @redpandawithbandana5092

    @redpandawithbandana5092

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like the new thumbnail! Very clean :)

  • @jakes1999

    @jakes1999

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another awesome video! How about one on the Fiat CR.20?

  • @lloydrmc

    @lloydrmc

    2 жыл бұрын

    I found out from a video about the Battle of Britain including, (of course), the Spitfire/Hurricane pilots that the North American T6 Texan was used by the RAF as an advanced trainer for those pilots. There seems to be almost no KZread content about the T6 Texan itself

  • @mikepette4422

    @mikepette4422

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think you can't talk about the P-36 without talking about how well they did in Finnish hands and for an otherwise good video well I'd say its the lone failing

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan24272 жыл бұрын

    for an already obsolete plane, the fact that they were still able to not only take on superior fighters in larger numbers than the P36 but was able to secure kills and damage to those superior fighters shows that they could have been good but was simply superseded by newer fighters

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've always thought, 'With a little more power...' but that's how we got the P-40, which IMO didn't look nearly as good.

  • @echodelta2172

    @echodelta2172

    2 жыл бұрын

    The P-36 had a very respectable KDR against "superior" aircraft in the Battle of France, especially considering it was flown at a disadvantage most of the time.

  • @ImpendingJoker

    @ImpendingJoker

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@petesheppard1709 Well the part I find funny is that the prototype with the Allison V-1710 was "too expensive" and yet that was exactly what the P-40 was. About the only difference between them was the cockpit placement and the undercarriage.

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ImpendingJoker Good points

  • @bluetopguitar1104

    @bluetopguitar1104

    2 жыл бұрын

    Technology was moving so fast in that period.

  • @Chilly_Billy
    @Chilly_Billy2 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite WW2 fighters. The one displayed at the Museum of the United States Air Force depicts Lt. Philip Rasmussen climbing into his P-36 during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. He was wearing his striped pajamas, having been awakened by the Japanese bombs. That was him shown at 7:33.

  • @lindycorgey2743

    @lindycorgey2743

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lt Rasmussen retired in 1964 a Lt Colonel. It was reported that he was a much better Pilot without much diplomacy in his thinking.

  • @aaronsanborn4291

    @aaronsanborn4291

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can get Rasmussen's P-36 on the game War Thunder lol

  • @z3r0_35

    @z3r0_35

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronsanborn4291 Yep, but it's exclusive to the Steam version of the game.

  • @rolliepollie94

    @rolliepollie94

    2 жыл бұрын

    From the head volunteer during orientation, those pajamas were his actual pajamas donated to the museum lol (I work there).

  • @kantaikessen3289

    @kantaikessen3289

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@z3r0_35 no it's not, you can get it on the gaijin store in the us starter pack.

  • @jif.6821
    @jif.68212 жыл бұрын

    I am always amazed at the Finnish pilot's ability to produce outstanding results using what many considered mediocre obsolete aircraft (P-36, Buffalos, Fokker D-21).

  • @LouAlvis

    @LouAlvis

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Suomi, ( Finns) were wizards of fighting against the odds. this plane and buffalo, tho oft maligned in Finnish hands and with Finnish re tooling both airframes were astonishingly effective. Take note Ukraine of the tactics of the winter war

  • @assessor1276

    @assessor1276

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those Finns - they're tough people and they don’t screw around.

  • @michaeltelson9798

    @michaeltelson9798

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LouAlvis With the Buffalo, the Finns stripped the aircraft of equipment that was meaningful for a carrier based aircraft but useless in their environment. The lightened aircraft was then better able to fight the lesser trained Soviet pilots.

  • @Vladymir_Putin

    @Vladymir_Putin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LouAlvis it's because enemy's aircrafts were same obsolete like I-152, I-153 or I-16

  • @timoterava7108

    @timoterava7108

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Vladymir_Putin Incorrect.

  • @marcconyard5024
    @marcconyard50242 жыл бұрын

    It has always impressed me how Curtis basically took a sound airframe, altered the geometry to fit an Alison V12 and morphed the P36 into the P40 which arguably became one of the most robust fighters ever built. The P40 was to my knowledge the only single-seat fighter capable of high speed turns without damage to the wing spar, something the Spitfire and Zero could not do.

  • @RatPfink66

    @RatPfink66

    Жыл бұрын

    Curtiss had an early turn at it with the P-37, whose cockpit was far back to make room for the Allison and a bulky early supercharger. The pilot couldn't see ahead on the ground and the cockpit got very hot. But they did get more speed out of the airplane. The Army took a test squadron of P-37s, and development continued.

  • @dukecraig2402

    @dukecraig2402

    Жыл бұрын

    The P47 had an even stronger wing, it had 2 spars in it with each one strong enough to do the job itself. That's why you can see photos of a P47 that came back from a ground attack mission with the top 3 feet of a telephone pole imbedded in the leading edge of it's right wing, the P40's wing was stronger than the P51's and other fighter's but even it would have had it's wing ripped off clipping the top of a telephone pole at 300 MPH. The P47 had the strongest of everything of any fighter, that's why it's fat ass weighed 6 tons even without bombs strapped on it.

  • @MediumRareOpinions

    @MediumRareOpinions

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dukecraig2402 she's not fat, she's just big boned

  • @cheesesniper473

    @cheesesniper473

    6 ай бұрын

    She really was big boned. So big boned she was designed around a monstrous radial engine.

  • @kringe700
    @kringe7002 жыл бұрын

    "A Domestic Failure That Became An International Success" That's basically almost every Curtiss-Wright planes during this era, save for some oddballs like SB2C or XP-55 that were just a failure.

  • @clawyraptor9029

    @clawyraptor9029

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Hartley_Hare That was because of how difficult it's handling characteristics are.

  • @Miles26545

    @Miles26545

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clawyraptor9029 in video games they are insane

  • @Zawmbbeh

    @Zawmbbeh

    2 жыл бұрын

    I forget why the XP-55 failed. At least it looks pretty.

  • @kringe700

    @kringe700

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zawmbbeh The XP-55 was designed to be faster than any fighters at that time, as indicated by its sweep wings. However, the engine is not strong enough to harness the sweep wings' potential except in a dive. Thus making its top level speed slightly slower than most of the frontline fighters by the time it rolled out in 1944. However, the XP-55's worst problem is its stability and controllability issue. While the plane is quite manoverable at high speeds, it suffers from uncontrollability issue in a dive as well as unable to do vertical manovers (as doing so has a risk of stalling it). In fact, 2 out of 3 prototypes crashed due to both of the aforementioned issue before the army cancelled the project and put the remaining aircraft into a museum.

  • @Zawmbbeh

    @Zawmbbeh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kringe700 that's a shame, but looking at the design i can understand why it would be unstable.

  • @jonathansteadman7935
    @jonathansteadman79352 жыл бұрын

    On first encountering Focke Wulf 190s, RAF pilots were told they were probably P36s from the French delivery now being used by the Luftwaffe. The pilots reply was ' really, any chance we could get some '!

  • @bluetopguitar1104
    @bluetopguitar11042 жыл бұрын

    Considering the fact that it led to the P40 and the various forces that used it, the P36 did ok. The weirdest thing was the vichy French P36 fighting Wildcats.

  • @olsmokey

    @olsmokey

    2 жыл бұрын

    The P-40 was essentially a P-36 fitted with the Allison 1710 V-12.

  • @bluetopguitar1104

    @bluetopguitar1104

    2 жыл бұрын

    With enough wing area to carry a decent load of bombs. And many attested to the strength and ability to absorb damage. The P40 was there in numbers when it was desperately needed. The inline engine added enough speed to keep it somewhat competative.

  • @Bialy_1

    @Bialy_1

    2 жыл бұрын

    The weirdest thing was the claim by French that they scored first allied air victory... How you can score air victory when you pretending during september 1939 campaign that you are not an ally of Poland and that you have no soldiers, tank or planes to actualy help Poland?! At the morning of 1 september 1939 Polish pilot W. Gnyś scored first allied air victory in P.11c.... P-36 max speed was 150% of P.11c speed... So French were working hard to claim that they were not able to do anythung when Poland claimed over 100 air victories in september 1939.

  • @przemog88

    @przemog88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Bialy_1 Learn something about history before making stupid comments. Poland promised that they will conduct organised defense for 2-3 months. Do you remember what happened? After merely two weeks our defence failed and France was forced to cancel their offensive. But nice try with repeating old and debunked myths.

  • @Balrog2005

    @Balrog2005

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Bialy_1 Another stupid nationalist comment First is not the French that claim anything is the documentary, I think that the french air victory was the first one on the western front because even before the declaration of war there was air missions on both sides in the western front...surprise... Do you know what General Mobilization is ? Do you know it took at least two to four weeks for the french army to totally mobilize and take civilians trucks and horses for their logistics ? A part from that everybody knew, even the Poles, that the French didn't want another ''all out offensives'' like the bloody ones in WW1 since the construction of the Maginot Line and they have a defensive mentality. Still even not fully mobilized they did make an offensive in the Saar. A part from that Poland make everything to ignore their old post WW1 alliances until the german wolf was a the frontiers in 1939...

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk44942 жыл бұрын

    Always loved this warplane. Love the lines the looks and just everything. A video on Sikorsky P-35 would be cool. I use to hate it but as I grew up and read more I realize it wasn't a terrible fighter just out dated and caught on the ground alot. But in the hands of the Fins it did ok.

  • @mikearmstrong8483

    @mikearmstrong8483

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you on both. But the P-35 was built by Seversky, not Sikorsky. It's designer, Alexander Kartveli, later went to Republic and designed the P-47. Amazing to consider that the P-35 first flew the same year as the Messerschmitt Bf-109 and the Hawker Hurricane. What a difference. Shows that the US (an ardently neutral and isolationist nation) was way behind in fighter design at that time.

  • @warhawk4494

    @warhawk4494

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mikearmstrong8483 I forgot how to spell his name lol. But yeah we were behind what was being built in Europe and in Japan. But we caught up. Lol

  • @jessfrankel5212

    @jessfrankel5212

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mikearmstrong8483 Agree with your points. I'd add that the US, while far behind everyone else during the late 1930's up until 1941 or so, caught up very quickly. The Buffalo was a truly dire aircraft (except for the Finns who used it against really lousy Russian planes at the outset of their war), but the Grumman F4F Wildcat became the first real fighter the Americans had. After that, the Mustang, Corsair, and the P-47 (my personal favorite) took over. As for the P-36, it was outdated by the start of the war, but I always liked the way it looked. It just needed a more powerful engine, along with armor and upgraded firepower. Even without the latter two, had the engine been stronger, it could have become a much better fighter in the hands of the US Armed Forces. But, as with all things, its relative failure paved the way for better planes.

  • @Rickinsf

    @Rickinsf

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just like the "look" of this plane.

  • @glennpettersson9002

    @glennpettersson9002

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was just a god awful time to be a designer, you'd finish Friday and then first thing Monday morning you'd have to bin last week's work because things had moved on🙁

  • @ethanmckinney203
    @ethanmckinney2032 жыл бұрын

    The Chinese Hawks suffered severely from the lack of an effective early warning system. At the time, this meant ground observers with a reliable telephone system, although radios were good enough and small enough to be possible. The lack of warning and ground control mean that it was hard for the Chinese Hawks to make intercepts. They seldom had enough time to take off, climb, and fly to the bombers before the bombers hit their target. Even if they had enough time, they were groping around trying to find the Japanese with no help--a radically different situation from the RAF over southern England. Imagine if the Spitfires had been going into battle with no one guiding them to the Nazi bomber formations. Late takeoffs also meant that they were far more likely to find Japanese fighters diving on them from above, which is a bad situation for anyone.

  • @michaeltelson9798

    @michaeltelson9798

    2 жыл бұрын

    There were two basic types for foreign sales, most sold to China didn’t have retractable landing gear which was a slower version. French and British sales were with retractable landing gear. After the initial attack on Hawaii, the P-36’s weren’t destroyed. “Gabby” Gabreski of P-47 fame flew patrols after the initial raid but didn’t sight any enemy aircraft.

  • @ethanmckinney203

    @ethanmckinney203

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaeltelson9798 Ummm, not sure why there's discussion of the P-35 in a reply to my post. 🤔

  • @palerider7708

    @palerider7708

    2 жыл бұрын

    That lack of early warning and ground control was the same problem the RAF & Commonwealth Air Forces had in Malaya & Singapore in 1941/42. Having the Buffalo as the main fighter didn’t help matters.

  • @z3r0_35

    @z3r0_35

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaeltelson9798 The most common Japanese fighter in the area at the time, the Ki-27, was fairly comparable to the Hawk 75M in many respects, the difference was in pilot skill (both training and experience) and doctrine, as Japan had been building their air doctrine since before World War I whereas China was a bit too busy collapsing into feuding warlords to even have an air force for a while. Better stuff like the A6M and Ki-43 didn't begin to appear until 1940 and 1941 respectively (and in the former case actually wasn't very common in the CBI Theater, most reported sightings of A6Ms were really Ki-43s, although in some ways the Ki-43 was the more dangerous opponent when flown by a skilled pilot).

  • @rimshot2270

    @rimshot2270

    2 жыл бұрын

    An early warning system using radios was developed later and was very useful in making the Flying Tigers (AVG) an effective force.

  • @testtest6169
    @testtest61692 жыл бұрын

    On it's maiden flight, the Northrup 3A took off, headed over the Pacific, and promptly disappeared. That is actually wild. If that happened today it would be front page news. The military industrial complex of the time just considered it a write off.

  • @cymond

    @cymond

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious about the story there.

  • @lufasumafalu5069

    @lufasumafalu5069

    2 жыл бұрын

    planes disappeared all the time when crossing the large oceans.. even today.. that wont make any news

  • @adrhynnes

    @adrhynnes

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cymond" 30 July The prototype Northrop 3A, (XP-948) c/n 44,[13] intended for the 1935 U.S. Army Air Corps competition for a new single-seat fighter, is lost over Santa Monica Bay, California, out of Jack Northrop Field, Hawthorne, California, during spin stall trials. Pilot killed.[14] No trace of the pilot, 1st Lt. Frank Scare,[15] or wreckage was found. Design rights sold in 1936 to Vought, becoming the V-141."

  • @gregedmand9939
    @gregedmand99392 жыл бұрын

    Immensely enjoyable! Anything with a radial engine really turns my crank. Especially the beloved P&W 1830, an engine I was still happily rebuilding into the 1980's.

  • @jarikinnunen1718
    @jarikinnunen17182 жыл бұрын

    Some modifications in finland. "The aircraft purchased in Finland were originally armed with four or six 7.5 mm machine guns, but in 1942-1943 the State Aircraft Factory replaced the machine guns with one or two 12.7 mm Colt machine guns and installed two 7.7 mm Browning machine guns on each wing. Some 12.7 mm Berez UB war machine guns or LKk / 42 machine guns developed in Finland on the basis of the Colt machine gun were also fitted to some aircraft. The German Revi 3D or C / 12D reflector sight or a copy made by Vaisala in Finland was installed on the machines. Bomb hangers and light bomb tanks were removed as unnecessary. In December 1943, seat armor was ordered to be removed because bullets up to 7.7 mm fired at close range would pass through them." wikipedia. translated from finnish. Engines was changed to Twin Wasp, because lack of spare parts. Performance was good compared to many others fighters.

  • @mgbrv8
    @mgbrv82 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed that you included a little bit about some of the survivors I wish more historians would do that with aircraft and add a little history about each aircraft. It would’ve been nice if you could have mentioned a few more of the survivors.

  • @tomjustis7237
    @tomjustis72372 жыл бұрын

    Just a piece of related trivia. Claire Chennault went to China to serve as Chiang Kai-shek's chief air advisor and commander of the American Volunteer Group (the Flying Tigers) early in the war (before the U.S. was even "officially" involved). Although the "Tigers" flew the P-40, Madam Chiang (Chiang Kai-shek's wife) presented Chennault with a P-36 Hawk as a gift. For the rest of his time in China he used that P-36 as his "personnel transportation" to visit the various bases under his command and all reports indicate he loved the plane!

  • @RatPfink66
    @RatPfink66 Жыл бұрын

    It was a time when _obsolete_ meant a year or so old, and also meant it could kill you in an aerial engagement. Warplanes went from gaily painted, streamlined, and covered in heraldry to grimly functional things that looked every bit the weapon.

  • @AdamMGTF
    @AdamMGTF2 жыл бұрын

    Finally. I have stumbled upon an aviation version of Drachinifel. A gentleman with knowledge and who can use the English language without making Mr Johnson turn in his grave. I have liked and subscribed. I'd share on the social media. But I don't have any of them. Perhaps I shall recommend this channel in my local Television Guide. ,🤔

  • @washguy5982
    @washguy59822 жыл бұрын

    Love it! I asked for the P-36 and you delivered, a truly underrated aircraft with real chops

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue69172 жыл бұрын

    The P-36 may have had some advantages over the Spitfire. But getting out of trouble as fast as you got into in wins hands down.

  • @milferdjones2573

    @milferdjones2573

    2 жыл бұрын

    And that only over the one model of the Spit. British probably kicking selves in Battle of Britain they sent them off. Production of any plane not keeping up. Fighters getting scarce. Luckily the Germans accidentally bombed London, British bombed Berlin and Hitler ordered the focus to change to bombing London instead of airfields and attacking British planes.

  • @bigblue6917

    @bigblue6917

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@milferdjones2573 Actually production aircraft was not problem as they increased production throughout the Battle of Britain. It was the lack of pilots which was the problem. Germans were the ones with problems. Muddled thinking with their tactics and a marked lack of replacements were two of the biggest problems. Attacking London in daylight was a massive blunder as Me-109s could only support the bombers for more than 20 minutes before they has to leave. Many German fighter pilots ran out of fuel on the way home. And the Luftwaffe's military intelligence was useless. The Luftwaffe attacked one airfield claiming all three squadrons were wiped out on the ground. Not only were they not wiped out, they were in the air, one of the squadrons wiping out the bombers which did the attack.

  • @jonrolfson1686
    @jonrolfson16862 жыл бұрын

    Great video on P-36 / Hawk 75 development and use. Anticipate more of the story when your P-40 chapter outlines the developmental relationship and differences of the Curtis fighters.

  • @ethanmckinney203
    @ethanmckinney2032 жыл бұрын

    The Thai and Argentine Hawks are particularly interesting because of their armament. Possibly because of the Argentines, the Hawk was available with Madsen guns from rifle caliber, to heavy machine gun, to 20mm and 23mm autocannon in pods! The Argentine army used Madsens of many types, so their Hawks were armed with rife-caliber Madsens. In a very convoluted story, the Argentines ended up taking their 11.35mm tripod-mount Madsen heavy mchine guns, re-jigerring them, and mounting them in the noses of the Hawks (only one side of the nose could take a heavy gun, the other had to be rifle-caliber). Anyhow, the Argentines ended up with an unreasonably zippy heavy aircraft machine gun through a combination of skill and good luck. The Thais bought their Hawks with pod-mounted Madsen cannon, which made them probaby the most heavily-armed single seat fighters in the world at the time. However, the pods were so heavy that they degraded the performance of the Hawk so severely that the Thais removed them. They had the bad luck to end up fighting USAAF B-24s without their cannon pods, though at that point it hardly mattered.

  • @atskyrider1636

    @atskyrider1636

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thai Air Force used hawk 75n mostly during Franco-Thai wars tho

  • @ethanmckinney203

    @ethanmckinney203

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@atskyrider1636 "Mostly" may be too strong. From the limited record, the total number of sorties were spread over a wide period.

  • @patrickwentz8413
    @patrickwentz84132 жыл бұрын

    Nifty little plane. Surely the Marines on Midway and the British in Singapore would have appreciated them over the Brewster Buffalo fighter they fought in.

  • @martijn9568

    @martijn9568

    2 жыл бұрын

    It all depends on what equipment you put into the Buffalo. The Dutch Brewster B-339 Buffaloes seemed to get some relative succes with their Buffaloes in Southeast Asia. Most important of all their pilots didn't hate the plane compared to the British in Southeast Asia.

  • @davidbeattie4294
    @davidbeattie42942 жыл бұрын

    Best summary of the Hawk's history and use I have ever seen, Thanks for the great video.

  • @bret9741
    @bret9741 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this information. I’ve studied aviation and military aviation my entire 60 year life. I’m a medically retired airline pilot and miss flying but found a truth I didn’t completely understand when I flew for a living. I love aircraft and the incredible people who designed them (design them even today) as much if not more than flying the aircraft. To put aviation into my families history. My grandmother and grandfather (paternal) were born in 1892 and 1889 perspectively. They both saw the Wrights make headlines as young men and women. Grandma finished college and taught elementary and high school from 1922-1963. What’s amazing is their lives saw this nation go from horse and buggy to the US Space shuttle launch! I grew up with my dad flying super cubs, Piper Arrows and Cessna 150-172’s. I lived in Roswell NM when Boeing needed a large runway and open airspace to train the thousands of 747 crews that began taking delivery of that platform in last years of 1960’s and early years of 1970’s. It was such an exciting time to be a US citizen. Even with the problems we had it was truly amazing to see 747’s concords, etc for a young boy. Can you imagine what my grandparents thought? My grandfather lived almost 100 years. He left home at age 9 and traveled from Lincoln Texas to Silver City NM to work at the mines. He and 2 of his 18 siblings went with him, they walked! What’s amazing is this wasn’t unusual anywhere in the world at that time. It’s truly remarkable what influence Curtis and Wrights had on aviation.

  • @tomarmstrong1281
    @tomarmstrong12812 жыл бұрын

    Where on earth does Rex's hangar glean such encyclopaedic knowledge? Amazing and praiseworthy.

  • @williammorris584
    @williammorris5842 жыл бұрын

    The usual Curtiss virtues: robust, physically tough, harmonious controls, and maneuverable. My great-uncle flew both this and the P-40 and said that both had some virtues difficult to quantify: cockpit comfort and (for the day) visibility, as well as imparting the sense that it would and could do, and withstand, anything asked of it. He also said that it was very handy vs Japanese planes that the P-40 would dive, fast, and RIGHT NOW. He preferred it to anything he flew but said he would not have though twice about having to fight in a P-36 early in the war. He flew numerous later fighter types (mostly Army, only F4F and F4U of the navy) but was only genuinely impressed by the F4U.

  • @ridleymain9234
    @ridleymain92342 жыл бұрын

    Great video as usual, I always love the background you give to the plane and it’s development.

  • @redtomcat1725
    @redtomcat17252 жыл бұрын

    Very good!!! Glad to see more info on the Hawk. It did very well in hard times !!

  • @TalkingGIJoe
    @TalkingGIJoe2 жыл бұрын

    A really beautiful Aircraft... under rated and under appreciated by most.

  • @CentralPALocos
    @CentralPALocos Жыл бұрын

    This is probably my favorite WW2 fighter. I think it was just a little too early to be relevant, but as we have shown even later in the war it still had a decent record. I think it may have been written off a little too soon by the USAAC and RAF, it would have been interesting it see how it would have performed in those early operations

  • @danmcdonald9117
    @danmcdonald91172 жыл бұрын

    EXCELLENT video and narration! Thanks Rex!! 👍🇦🇺

  • @patjohnson3100
    @patjohnson31002 жыл бұрын

    Great video packed with information and context. Thank you for pointing out the two kills achieved at Pearl Harbor. Because so much emphasis is placed on discussion of fleet damage and the destruction of planes on the ground, it isnt really mentioned that some of the dispersed planes got airborne and shot down some of the attackers.

  • @charliemessenger6537
    @charliemessenger65372 жыл бұрын

    Love the more extensive content. Great vid on the Hawk.

  • @RichardGoth
    @RichardGoth2 жыл бұрын

    Another great video- thanks! Curtis seems to have suffered from a lot of management and QC issues later in the war I hope you find time to cover these in your P40 video. Between remaining wedded to the p40 design way past its obsolescence to a noted dislike of making competitors designs (the P47). That said the p40 was rugged and in the field, capable of being pushed to the limit if you radically exceeded recomended power settings

  • @robertdragoff6909
    @robertdragoff69092 жыл бұрын

    I’m looking forward to your video on the Curtis P40…. You can see the influence the P36 had on it… I loved the paint scheme of the Flying Tigers. Great video as usual

  • @martijn9568

    @martijn9568

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair the early P-40s (Hawk 81s) were almost just a P-36 Hawk with an Allison V1710 slapped onto it. Easily the best looking fighter of the entire Hawk line with its somewhat brute but still streamlined looking radiator.

  • @russkinter3000
    @russkinter30002 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating! Thanks for this!

  • @M60A3
    @M60A32 жыл бұрын

    In war thunder, I loved the p-36g, the one who had guns in the engine and 2 guns in each wing, used tracer bullets and destroyed a good bunch of planes

  • @MediumRareOpinions

    @MediumRareOpinions

    Жыл бұрын

    Early tiers where most of the interwar/early WW2 planes could be found are where I had most fun, the P36 and P40 were a source of much fun in game.

  • @jimskelton8197
    @jimskelton81972 жыл бұрын

    Another great video mate.

  • @Anlushac11
    @Anlushac112 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. My introduction to the P-36 was when I was a kid I built the Monogram 1/72 P-36 wondering why it looked so much like a P-40.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard17092 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a very informative video! To my eye, the Curtiss 75 was the best-looking fighter of the '30s; I'm glad to learn its history was a bit more than just another 'forgotten fighter'.

  • @bradcampbell7253

    @bradcampbell7253

    2 жыл бұрын

    I recall reading about p40 v mustang in a conversation on manuverability, and the unexpected comment was the p40 held the edge, while the mustang had the HP and speed. So we learn, the p40 was not obsolete, just saddled with inferior supercharger situation, brought on by US Army idiots who were not engine/hp freaks and did not fully appreciate the supercharging/ horsepower relationships. Same problem with the P39 too. For both of those models, they should have just gone turbo as the p47 did.

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradcampbell7253 An upgraded geared supercharger would have been more practical. A turbo is pretty bulky.

  • @bradcampbell7253

    @bradcampbell7253

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@petesheppard1709 turbo is not bulky in a p38.

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradcampbell7253 Look at how the turbos fill the booms behind the engines. Also, cooling ducts were routed along the wing leading edges in early models; later modified to all fuel tanks to be added there.

  • @AlexConnor_

    @AlexConnor_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradcampbell7253 P-40 was no match aerodynamically for the P-51, even with the same Allison engine the early P-51 could reach nearly 400mph. Mustang itself was not especially good in maneuverability with a distinctly average turn rate and a relatively poor rate of climb, however the P-51 had a decent roll rate and very good control at high speed which combined with the high top speed made it an effective dogfighter. Meanwhile the P-40 had a better rate of turn, similar roll rate and the same good control authority at high speed, however the P-40 had a lot more drag and would never have been able to achieve the same performance even with a 2 stage supercharged Merlin like the P-51. When you factor in the range difference P-51 was overall a much better aircraft.

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette44222 жыл бұрын

    a truly under appreciated fighter with a mere 1050 HP in the early versions you couldn't see the potential of the plane but add the 1200 HP Pratt & Whitney Double Wasp and suddenly you had a real combat plane. As the Germans found out over France and the Russians over Karelia.

  • @davidelliott5843

    @davidelliott5843

    2 жыл бұрын

    Merlins used in Spitfire and Hurricane used in Battle of Britain made around 1000 bhp. German engines of the time were much the same.

  • @topivaltanen4432

    @topivaltanen4432

    2 жыл бұрын

    Allready first model had top speed over 500km/h but I think it was not fully combat version as those Finland get didnt reach 500km/h.

  • @mikepette4422

    @mikepette4422

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidelliott5843 Inlines vs Radials much more drag on a radial engine

  • @echodelta2172
    @echodelta21722 жыл бұрын

    The P-36 was far from a domestic failure. The USAAC's initial contract for it was unprecedented at the time and it immediately spawned the P-40.

  • @BARelement
    @BARelement2 жыл бұрын

    A masterpiece documentary. Loved it.

  • @JoshuaC923
    @JoshuaC9232 жыл бұрын

    Great video Rex!

  • @vapsa56
    @vapsa562 жыл бұрын

    This was one of my favorite 1:72 scale models that I built when I was younger.

  • @mbryson2899

    @mbryson2899

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here, I think mine was a Monogram kit.

  • @paintnamer6403

    @paintnamer6403

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mbryson2899 I had the Monogram P-36 kit too, I had dog fights and strafed my bed room floor many times with that model.

  • @jjohnsonTX
    @jjohnsonTX2 жыл бұрын

    Very well presented. Had no idea the P-36 saw service in so many countries.

  • @davidvaughn7752
    @davidvaughn77522 жыл бұрын

    Quite an illustrious histroy for an aircraft with hardly any recognition - until now. Very interesting.

  • @geofftimm2291
    @geofftimm22912 жыл бұрын

    Excellent as always

  • @garethjones9371
    @garethjones93712 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant and fascinating video. Great interesting narration. Good stuff.

  • @garyolivier792
    @garyolivier7922 жыл бұрын

    Great video !1 Very informative. Thank you!!

  • @ianbell5611
    @ianbell56112 жыл бұрын

    Thank You again. Crazy that I'd never heard of this aircraft before

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 Жыл бұрын

    Another outstanding factual and entertaining video.

  • @jessehamm3573
    @jessehamm35732 жыл бұрын

    I remember reading about a few aerial skirmishes transpired during the course of the brief French-Thai conflict in 1940/41, during which Thai Hawk 75As shot down a few Moraine Saulnier MS 406s.

  • @Phoenix-xn3sf
    @Phoenix-xn3sf2 жыл бұрын

    That early silver P-40 @ 7:28 though... Gorgeous!

  • @toomanyhobbies2011
    @toomanyhobbies20112 жыл бұрын

    Very nice, most enjoyable. Thank you.

  • @guaporeturns9472
    @guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын

    Love the obscure color schemes at 8:18

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz77882 жыл бұрын

    Awesome work Sir thank you

  • @technologyinnovationandwar7583
    @technologyinnovationandwar75832 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks!

  • @Ob1sdarkside
    @Ob1sdarkside2 жыл бұрын

    Great vid, an excellent look at this plane.

  • @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan
    @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan2 жыл бұрын

    Hawk. Aircraft history thats fun! Bless this KZread artist.

  • @fs2000
    @fs20002 жыл бұрын

    Loving these overview videos. Could you do one on the Curtiss F9C Sparrowhawk?

  • @thinkingbill1304
    @thinkingbill13042 жыл бұрын

    I always liked the clean classic lines of the P-36.

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work

  • @HootOwl513
    @HootOwl5132 жыл бұрын

    The astonishing similarity in lines between the Seversky P-35 and the Italian Reggiane Re-2000 would be an interesting study. Seversky had been selling his fighter abroad, with a big contract to neutral Sweden. The US Congress killed the deal [and all others like it] with the Neutrality Act of 1939. With the loss of revenue, the Seversky board of directors threw Seversky out and became Republic Aircraft. Swedes, stiffed out of a fighter wing, turned to Italy. Reggiane built a fighter for Sweden but also stole the better landing gear design from the P-36 Mohawk, and came up with the Re-2000 [radial powerplant], Re-2001 [DB601 inline] and Re-2002 divebomber [bigger radial]. An Re-2004 with a 24 cyl X-type motor was never built, but the Re-2005 ,,Veltro'' [DB605] was a winner, but came too little and too late. In the Western Hemisphere, Republic produced the P-43 Lancer, a marginal improvement over the 'passenger pigeon' of the P-35 -- but went big on the P-47 -- a worldbeater with an R2800 [previously considered a bomber engine]. Interesting to note that Re-2005s of the RSI could have been dogfighting USAAF Thunderbolts over Northern Italy. Alexander Kartvelli's legitimate offspring vs his stolen bastard design.

  • @martijn9568

    @martijn9568

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe I once heard a story that one of the designers of the Seversky P-35 returned to Italy as he got a job over at Reggiane. Not sure how accurate it is though. It's for sure not a 1 to 1 copy since the Reggiane 2000 looks much better than the P-35.

  • @HootOwl513

    @HootOwl513

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@martijn9568 I had never heard of a designer defecting to Fascist Italy. Not impossible, I guess, but I'm sceptical. Alexander Kartvelli designed the aircraft. He stayed in the USA. He was not Italian, Kartvelli was born in Tblisi, Georgia in the Russian Empire. His name was originally Kartvelishvilli. Emigrated to the US in 1922. He later designed the Republic P-47, XF-12 Rainbow, F-84 Thunderjet, F-105 Thunderchief, and some later aerospace projects 10 years prior to NASA's Space Shuttle. With the ..Falco,'' Reggiane improved the lines and copied the P-36's Curtiss-Wright landing gear for a sleeker aerodynamic profile. But you can see Kartvelli's wing plan in the Guardsman, the Falco, Veltro and Thunderbolt.

  • @karisaarinen2746
    @karisaarinen27462 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the interesting and entertaining content

  • @robertoeduardoquintela4192
    @robertoeduardoquintela41922 жыл бұрын

    thanks for this excellent video.

  • @jamesbugbee6812
    @jamesbugbee68122 жыл бұрын

    Great video; great a/c selection 💙💙.

  • @anttimustonen9033
    @anttimustonen90332 жыл бұрын

    Sussu oli ihan hyvä lentokone suomen ilmavoimissa, tunnettuja ässiä oli Kyösti "Kössi" Karhila 13 pudotusta ja Kalevi "Kale" Tervo 15,5 pudotusta.

  • @codycoyote6912
    @codycoyote69122 жыл бұрын

    Nice job. Typical of all your videos, well done, well researched.

  • @apollo4535
    @apollo45352 жыл бұрын

    The 50 Shades of Grey outro music... YES! LOVE IT

  • @SephirothRyu
    @SephirothRyu2 жыл бұрын

    Any chance the "Stearman"/Kaydet biplane is in your queue? They are an interesting one in that a rather large number of them still fly to this day in airshows and such. Meaning they are in the range of 80-90 years old now. Edit: The fact that about 1000 of them are still flying also means that it could be easier to get free/cheap video footage from random people at airshows or annual Stearman fly-ins (I know there are ones in Illinois and Kansas every year at least), which you had noted is difficult to find in some cases due to needing to get special permissions and such. I'm sure some of the pilots would even love to share some videos they took if you asked them.

  • @rimshot2270
    @rimshot22702 жыл бұрын

    There was another example too. The Brewster Buffalo was a miserable failure in US service but the Finns used it very effectively against Soviet aircraft.

  • @lufasumafalu5069

    @lufasumafalu5069

    2 жыл бұрын

    nonsense , finnish airforce ran away everytime they encounter soviet fightera

  • @thorstenwanoth6774
    @thorstenwanoth6774 Жыл бұрын

    Great story! thanks muchly.

  • @albertpatterson3675
    @albertpatterson3675 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative.

  • @NemoBlank
    @NemoBlank2 жыл бұрын

    It was a reasonably competitive plane. Good pilots and tactics make the difference and it was useful for many operators.

  • @donlove3741
    @donlove37412 жыл бұрын

    Love the Heresy! Brits crow about the Spitfire in Battle of Britain yet it was the Hurricane that did the work. Spit was a wonderful plane but not the end all.

  • @thatairplaneguy
    @thatairplaneguy2 жыл бұрын

    Incredible. I never knew this much about it!

  • @jasons44
    @jasons44 Жыл бұрын

    I love your documentaries,

  • @wulfmaer8919
    @wulfmaer89192 жыл бұрын

    Excellent documentary on the P36! Really great work! Thanks for taking the time to do this! Truly fascinating report on one of my favorite American fighters of all time!

  • @davidrivero7943
    @davidrivero79432 жыл бұрын

    Mr . Curtiss residence & Flying School, is/ was 2 miles away in Hialeah, Miami Springs across the Miami River, is his former Home.

  • @terrybunton2586
    @terrybunton25862 жыл бұрын

    Thank You Rex I thoroughly enjoy you're series ....my Father flew WW II, Korea etc. and I love flying and I soloed as a civilian in 1982 I'm sure you know about the Nice film titled..... "Spitfire" done during the very early war years of WW II the movie is a Gem it portrays Mr Mitchell the Genius and creator of the Spitfire This being the Spitfire fighter Plane that saved England In the Battle of Britain ..... Leslie Howard aka Ashley Wilks from Gone With The Wind portrays Mitchell's struggle to produce a miracle knowing he is dying. The irony and reality was that German intelligence had been tipped off on Mr Howard's visit. To Spain and had his plane shot down killing Howard. Nazis were exposed by this Patriotic movie but took Revenge as a result.

  • @tonyraheja1
    @tonyraheja17 күн бұрын

    Very interesting... Thanks

  • @luislealsantos
    @luislealsantos2 жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Thanks for sharing your hard work.

  • @kasuraga
    @kasuraga2 жыл бұрын

    it's cool seeing a video on this plane. In warthunder it's one of my favorites to fly. The p36g in warthunder handles so nibley

  • @ridleymain9234
    @ridleymain92342 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on the Henkel he 219? I think it’s a extremely interesting plane and I would love to know more about it

  • @TheRussianDachshund
    @TheRussianDachshund2 жыл бұрын

    Rex’s hangar, I will know listen to you. When i hop on my xbox, to play war thunder. Your videos are that educational :) i love aerospace history, including space.

  • @warleymerencio2902
    @warleymerencio29022 жыл бұрын

    🇧🇷 Great Video! here in Brazil we have a not flying model at the MUSAL (Air and Space Museum) in Rio de Janeiro

  • @markpatterson4917
    @markpatterson49172 жыл бұрын

    Great video impressive stat's against MK1 Spit.

  • @angry_zergling
    @angry_zergling2 жыл бұрын

    0:25 Daaaang that is a sick camo pattern in the center.

  • @williamkoppos7039
    @williamkoppos70392 жыл бұрын

    Good show.

  • @suburbangorilla5515
    @suburbangorilla55152 жыл бұрын

    Great accounting!

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson61452 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @ethanspaziani1070
    @ethanspaziani10702 жыл бұрын

    Loved your video very very nice you covered all the important points and you have a nice calming voice you did your research and you did it well very good video you made a subscriber out of me today

  • @Solsys2007
    @Solsys20072 жыл бұрын

    8:59 first time I see these "cow spots" camouflage patterns. Very interesting. Reminds me of the packaging of Gateway computers in the late 1990's ^^

  • @ncktbs
    @ncktbs2 жыл бұрын

    can wait for your p-40 vid its my favorite plane

  • @marioacevedo5077
    @marioacevedo50772 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Your scholarly attention to detail is much appreciated. How about videos on the Northrup A-17, the Dornier Do. 335, and the Heinkel He. 219? Also, a video on US Navy WW2 fighters in the European theater. I once read that US Navy pilots flew P51Cs during Operation Dragoon.

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    2 жыл бұрын

    US escort carriers were involved, and the F6Fs not only provided fighter support but actively helped with naval bombardment and brought down German transport planes. the navy never used the P51, their variant was canceled in favor of other fighters

  • @marioacevedo5077

    @marioacevedo5077

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bostonrailfan2427 I know the Navy was involved which is why I'd like to see a video giving details. The Navy transitioned scout floatplane pilots to fly Spitfires in support of the Normandy invasion and they did the same thing in Operation Dragoon only with P51Cs, which were AAF hand-me-downs, and flown from ground bases.

  • @jwrappuhn71
    @jwrappuhn712 жыл бұрын

    Good vid.

  • @deck614
    @deck6142 жыл бұрын

    This year 1935, the Messerschmitt 109, the Morane 405 and the Hawker Hurricane were also begining - just to have a global view of fighter-pursuit developments then. (It's said in some web pages that the Morane was outclassed by the Messerschmitt : as I know, only in speed, like the H75.)

  • @rudywoodcraft9553
    @rudywoodcraft95532 жыл бұрын

    I've been a student of ww2 aviation for decades and learned alot from this episode well done!

  • @Bialy_1

    @Bialy_1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do not believe in everything... For example French claims that they got first air victory in ww2...🤣 Władysław Gnyś on PZL P.11c scored first air victory by shoting down two German dorniers 6:30AM september 1, 1939...

  • @Bialy_1

    @Bialy_1

    2 жыл бұрын

    And someone with nick "Rudy" should be aware of it... 🙃

  • @theorangeninja6486
    @theorangeninja64862 жыл бұрын

    I adore the P-36, especially the unpainted silver models. Absolutely gorgeous plane

  • @lufasumafalu5069

    @lufasumafalu5069

    2 жыл бұрын

    it just a plane , try going out more instead of slobbering over model airplanes

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