A Disney Villains Retrospective Part 1: The Early Shorts
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In a major revamp of an older series I started, we're looking at the lasting legacy of Disney's wickedest characters! I'm really excited for this one. This first volume will feature:
Peg-Leg Pete
Kat Nipp
Beppo the Gorilla
The Mad Doctor
Frankenollie & Julius
0:00 Intro
1:20 Peg-Leg Pete
11:18 Kat Nipp
12:47 Beppo
14:29 The Mad Doctor
16:55 Frankenollie and Julius
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Who thinks that it was more than a pun when Pete's wife was named "Peg"?
@JumbleJammyJokes
4 жыл бұрын
And his daughter Pistol after his early cowboy appearances ... the penny just dropped for me too
@michaelhill1256
Жыл бұрын
Wow…I never thought of any of that til now…😮
@MagillanicaLouM
Жыл бұрын
I thought you were referencing just the leg but soon realized there might be more lol
@fizzy69o.0
9 ай бұрын
Coincidence? I think not
@daniexists6
2 ай бұрын
Same with the daughter being named Pistol. Clever, really.
It'll never not be weird to me that Pete is older than both Mickey AND Oswald.
@robbiewalker2831
Жыл бұрын
Externally, yes; historically, yes.
Gotta admit, as twisted as Pete could get in Goof Troop, there was no denial that he had some love for his family. The facial expressions and sobs he gives when he sees what he believes to be a vision of his kids becoming crooks and gunned down by the cops are honestly a little heart wrenching.
With the Disney villains, you could say it all started with a bear that was later turned into a cat.
@robbiewalker2831
Жыл бұрын
Too bad, no one wanted to use that as a headliner for the Disney Company. Although there was that one time in Mickey Mouse Clubhouse where they made an allusion to Pete’s origin as a different species: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kadksZeKp5CcqZs.html
It's amazing that, for a character that's been utilized as much and even predates Disney's studio, Pete is somehow underrated as far as those characters go. He did get some of the harder to find Goof Troop merchandise, and then absolutely no marketing presence until Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and Kingdom Hearts. Even today, most Pete based merch is KH based. He's truly a fascinating character and it's just strange that he's used so much, yet somehow just doesn't seem to carry a presence like the main 5 characters.
@icecreamhero2375
4 жыл бұрын
I guess because Mickey is firnedly and Pete is mean.
@mightyfilm
4 жыл бұрын
Disney has a line of merchandise specifically of villains. Actually, sometimes you can find Pete in there, but usually it's just the big names like Cruella, Maleficent, and Captain Hook. Then again, there are loads of Mickey and CO Disney characters that rarely get featured as merchandise if at all. I'm just happy with the Ducktales reboot, we've seen Scrooge McDuck a lot more recently, even in his older form. Lego Scrooge? You already know that's the first one I bought.
@daniexists6
3 жыл бұрын
Domestically, yes. Outside of the US, more specifically in Japan, Pete's on tons of stuff!
@mightyfilm
3 жыл бұрын
I'd also say that for the longest time until Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, you'd have been hard pressed to find merchandising with Mickey and Co stateside. Much as I'm not a fan of that show or the edutainment model it followed, it did see a massive resurgence of Mickey and Co merch all around, including Pete. But no doubt Japan would have more Pete stuff. They apparently have (or had) pop up boutiques that sell merchandise based on Snoopy's relatives. I barely ever saw any Spike merchandise over here, and they have stuff with Olaf on it. Olaf, Snoopy's brother who barely appeared in anything.
@annieskywalker9290
2 жыл бұрын
That's probably why he ended up in the Wasteland from Epic Mickey
Pete's portrayal in the 3DS game Disney Magical World really caught me off-guard. I assume they decided to tone him down due to the fact that the game was family friendly and little kids would likely play it as well, but Pete was a straight up friend to Mickey and the protagonist, rather than a villain.
@robbiewalker2831
Жыл бұрын
It’s probably the same way he’s portrayed in the “Mickey Mouse Clubhouse” edutainment series. Speaking of which, I think this would be considered an in-joke: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kadksZeKp5CcqZs.html
Jim Cummings is a voice legend
3:18 The 'moustache-twirling villain' archetype actually goes all the way back to the Melodrama plays of the 19th century, many of the tropes and story beats of which influenced aspects of early silent cinema (the Perils of Pauline would be a famous example).
Fun fact: In the spanish dub for "Donald and the Gorilla" Ajax was named "Beppito" (Little Beppo).
i honestly had no idea pete technically existed before steamboat willie
@2Years2Farm
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@jerodallen
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@jonahmaddox2885
2 жыл бұрын
Your not alone. I thought that cat with the girl was Flixe!
@ChickenCoop82
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people don’t, I only knew from a few years ago around when Mickey turned 90, there was a youtuber who went over the design evolution of all of the Mickey Mouse characters
@Gosh..
9 ай бұрын
I did
Fun note: because of his association with Oswald, Pete is technically also a universal character, since he was a part of the Oswald univers, and was used in the new Oswald cartoons
Thank you for starting with the alice comidies!!! they are not talked about enough!!!
@bradjames891
Жыл бұрын
They're all over the Walt Disney biography.
@cameussmith
Жыл бұрын
They're *old* .
The italian comics gave Pete a bunch of relatives aside from Trudy. First came his cousin Plottigat, a mad scientist who often conceived complicated schemes. Then even came two identical nephews, Pierino and Pieretto.
@Ender10zCyanOcto95
Жыл бұрын
Those even canon?
Poor PJ. Kid needs therapy, and a hug
I always thought Pete was a Bulldog. Julius sure does look like Felix. When they had Honey & Bosco guest star on Tiny Toons, they made Bosco look like Oswald instead.
@lisanettles2731
3 жыл бұрын
Pete is not a bulldog. bulldogs don't chase mice. it wouldn't make sense if he chased Mickey as a bulldog.
@christopherwall2121
3 жыл бұрын
Because Bosko just wouldn't fly these days.
@robbiewalker2831
3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherwall2121 I hope it’s not gonna get me in trouble, but given the circumstances of redesigning Honey and Bosco, wouldn’t it make more sense if Bosco was seen as a Monkey? They could’ve retconned his design to include a monkey tail.
@marktrigg467
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought he was a bulldog too
@marktrigg467
2 жыл бұрын
@@lisanettles2731 to be fair, there are certain breeds of dogs that can kill rodents. Jack Russells are often used to get rid of rats
4:44 I like how very happy Pete looks about his prostetic leg, straight up jolly
Wait...Pete had a girlfriend before "Goof Troop"? Well, no wonder why Peg didn't take PJ with her, he was mothered by someone else. On the bright side, at least PJ ended up with that awesome Beret Girl. Come to think of it, we had never seen her interactions with Pete which is a shame. I would've loved to see Beret Girl stand up for PJ whenever Pete's being a jerk to him.
@robbiewalker2831
Жыл бұрын
As much as I want to not have Extremely Goofy Movie be canon for reasons on how they botched the Goofy/Max subplot (making it feel like that ending from the first movie never happened), I will admit, PJ’s subplot in the sequel was the only thing I liked… that and Brad Garrett was in it. On a different note, I did bring up that PJ (short for Pete Jr, BTW) was around since Bellboy Donald, but he behaved differently back then, being more like his father. Maybe PJ has changed his attitude after getting on Donald’s bad side. The thought of Trudy being PJ’s birth mother doesn’t sound like a bad idea, though.
@Ender10zCyanOcto95
Жыл бұрын
I feel like Pete married Trudy and then had pj aka Pete Jr and they divorced and married peg
Cat Nip honestly sounds like the villain persona name taken on by a younger character who's suffered a series of tragic heartbreaking losses and was eventually bullied so much by those around him that he became of a super edgy masquerade mercenary who frequently battles the other iconic Disney characters. But ultimately ended up being pushed to the dark side by the main cast unintentionally or carelessly treating him badly only for him to come back to haunt them as an actual threat working under a main villain. But who eventually sees himself and his own pain within those he's hurt and realizes he's become the very Monsterous person he despised. And then he ends up defying the main villains, teams up with the main cast in defeating them, and then goes on to atoning for his misdeeds by saving people in the most badass and edgy ways possible while occasionally running into the same heros from before and teaming up with them on different adventures. And his real name and reason for being bullied so much is probably something real personally awkward he still doesn't like talking about to anyone else except the main cast. Like Katelyn Izabelle Prescott or something because his parents were expecting a girl or something that deals with his tragic backstory or something. Just an idea.😅
"You can't fool me! I was a fool way before you were born!"
I love Pete and The MAD Doctor! Your channel is truly fantastic! I also love hearing about Disney theme park and movie secrets lore! I’m very glad to join your subscribers!
Well this looks like an interesting video series. You really went through those older Disney villains thoroughly 😁👍. I’m excited to see you tackle the TV Disney villains in this series, since I watched more Disney shows than movies when I was a child. But I guess I should wait for that 😅, since there are a good amount of the big baddies in the movies. Nice educational video still 😁👍.
Both the X's and that Professor actually has made a few appearances afterwards. One of them had the X's use pal tones and relaxing gas to make everyone nice, all as part of a sinister plan to take over the world. In the end they got a taste of their own medicine and became nice themselves, revaling how to reverse the effects. In another the trio actually were inacting a take over the world scheme at the same time as the Phantom Blot had a similar plan, which lead to Mickey initally thinking they were working together, and also allowing Mickey to effect the computers of both villains with each other's virus, foiling both of them at the same time.
In the comics, Pete also has a cousin called Portis who is a genius scientist often working with Pete.
So technically, “it all started with a bear”
@jackhamilton9604
3 жыл бұрын
that later became a cat
Showing my age here, but the footage of Pete reminds me of the "Nasty Boys" segment of the "Totally Minnie" special
@ColinLooksBack
4 жыл бұрын
Totally Minnie probably deserves its own episode, LOL, there's a lot to unpack with that special.
@TylerCharlesFisher
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. You just made me feel old as well.
Mickey Mouse's "Mechanical Man" looked something like the Tin Man in "The Wizard Of Oz."
@RingoandCarlin
4 жыл бұрын
I always thought that was the tin wood man when I was little.
@TheAnchorArmsChad
4 жыл бұрын
If he crossbred with the FEROCITY of Little Mac and the Creative Genius of Wile E Coyote
Did anyone notice how in his first appearance, the Mad Doctor is briefly seen clad in a black cloak that looks near-identical to the Phantom Blot's iconic costume?
happy 100th anniversary disney!!! :3 like how pete's dynamic with mickey mouse is like mario with bowser(funny bowser's a better parent to jr. than pete is to pj/while a blessing to him pete didn't go with him would've been really funny if from goofy's hijink's he somehow got pete to go with him too.). ,prince and the pauper/three musketeers is probably him at his most threatening though loved him in kingdom hearts & would love to see his family appear in it alongside max/roxanne. also loved the mad doctor in epic mickey(compared to the short felt like if "dr. wily/eggman was in a disney game.)/franken ollie should've gotten another appearance though his death was rather grisly(wouldn't be surprised if that alone was enough to get it banned alongside mickey basically turning into a precursor of the werehog for sonic.).
I'm glad pete is finally coming to the parks
Thank you for also remembering/knowing about the comics. I never even get my hopes up that they're remembered anymore, so thank you for doing that!
I am going to love this series! I love the Disney villains! Thank you!
I love how Beppo does an impression of King Kong in that short.
from what im aware, petes costume never actually walked around but was just used in a car in the early parades, because his costume didn't properly represent his size in the cartoons compared to everyone else, and only just now got an official walk around costume.
I wish Epic Mickey 3 wasn’t canceled😭
Donald was definitely a badass back then not afraid to thrash Pete around
Honestly it's crazy that Pete might actually be more well known fot Kindom Hearts than anything else at this point.
ngl, I like how Pete in the preschool show is more like a fat pet cat that screams "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!" before swatting something off the fireplace mantel instead of malicious for no reason.
1:20 Peg Leg Pete 11:18 Cat Nipp 12:47 Beppo 14:29 The Mad Doctor 16:55 Frankenollie and Julius
I freaking love Pete so much. For me, Goof Troop is where he really shines. You get to see every side of him, his crookedness, his evilness, his manliness, as well as his stupidity, his loving side, his silliness, and the way he works off of Goofy and Peg is just a blast to watch. Even despite all the awful stuff he does there you can’t help but love him. I really really love Peg too, she’s such a well written character. She is the PERFECT way to give Pete a wife in the way that she’s the only person who’s strong enough to put up with and stand up to him, and the way that she’s the only person who can truly frighten him. Man I wish Disney would use her more… the more Goof Troop I watch the more I’m disappointed she didn’t appear in the movie. (By the way, it was confirmed Peg didn’t divorce him by the creators, she just never showed up) I really love the point you made about him being a perfect rival to Mickey in the way that he’s so flexible and can be put into any situation. I never thought of it like that and it gives me an even bigger appreciation for him.
9:05 "Rowdy Rumble," excellent choice of song, you sly duck.
Episode on THE BEAGLE BOYS would be awsome :)
I can't wait to see the next episode! This was great
After this video, 10 Classic Looney Tunes Evolutions.
So glad to see Pete finally in the parks
Awesome video. Very well researched. Thanks for sharing!
Your research skills are astounding!
Major props for the _DKC3_ music during Beppo's segment 👍
That you have music from The Magical Quest in the background brought so much nostalgic joy to my soul. I love that game! Subscribed!
Wow. Thank you! This was very cool to watch.
I personally see Pete as a sort of Disney version of Wario. He's big, brutish, antagonistic, versatile, greedy, funny, and all around just plain mean, but he's more of a goofy cartoonish bad guy, as opposed to the serious, murders-your-whole-family type of bad guy. He wears overalls (Most of the time), has a thriving career as a video game villain, played an oft forgotten role in comics, and is the original basis for the goofy antagonist stereotype. They're also both my favorite characters of their respective franchises, but that's just bias.
Fun fact, the three comic doctors have appeared recently in a IDW Disney Comics and Stories, 3X renamed as Professor Z while X and 2X are now Doctors H and K.
*CLASSIC FANS REJOICE, PETE IS FINALLY HERE AT THE PARKS!*
I can not wait for you to cover the king of disney villians : Scar
Kelsy Grammer also voiced Sideshow Bob from The Simpsons. he was the original sidekick of Krusty the Clown before framing him for robing the Kwiki Mart. it was Bart that got him in jail and now in every appearance, he plans to kill Bart for revenge.
This is a great idea for a retrospective. I cannot wait for you to talk about Jafar, Hook and Maleficent.
The fact that pete is the first Disney villain and he never dies like other Disney Villains.....(they should take notes)
Honestly I think he better as bear because it’s go with his personality more.
@lisanettles2731
3 жыл бұрын
But they had change Pete to a cat, because it wouldn't make sense for him to chase Mickey Mouse if he was still a bear, because "bears don't chase mice".
@lisanettles2731
3 жыл бұрын
but I have to admit, I like him both as a bear and a cat.
@ilovecats3795
3 жыл бұрын
Lisa Nettles Doesn’t make logical sense that we have a normal dog and talking dog.
@lisanettles2731
3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovecats3795 you mean Pluto and Goofy?
@nicholassims9837
2 жыл бұрын
Plus how many evil bears are there ? The only ones that don't act like wild animals Lotso and Vincin
Thanks .
Pete’s Disneyland costume just debuted! But obviously having him looking more “friendly”
When you get to the other villains soon, would you briefly compare them to what the villains were like in the novels or stories they came from?
@ColinLooksBack
4 жыл бұрын
That's the plan! :)
@TylerRakstis
4 жыл бұрын
@@ColinLooksBack Thank you.
@robbiewalker2831
Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLooksBack 4:34: I remember in a Character Commentary for Mickey’s Three Musketeers, they gave us the reverse explanation. Pete said that during his role as the villain in that story, he required a funnel to make it work, which can hurt at times. Taking the commentary into context, I can’t help but feel he had to go through the process of inserting replacement peglegs whenever one of them gets chopped during filming; and he’d probably say “Oh no, a chopped-off pegleg? I don’t want to go through this again.”
The comics in where Trudy appears is often very cute, Pete is still a thief, but he cares alot about Trudy and she for him too, she is also a thief but feom those comics I've read, it is not very often shown, but she always supports Pete.
7:37 That more serious take idea was going to be emphasized by having Bill Farmer, Goofy's VA, do the lines in his natural voice instead of Goofy's. This was a decision by Katzenberg that the rest of the staff vetoed after recording a few sessions.
I used to think the Goof Troop series was a prequel because I saw the movie first. So I believed Peg and Pistol weren't in the movie because they hadn't been created yet.
7:30 - 7:55 I wish that someone could make top 10 saddest characters in Disney. Nuka being one of them. Heck. I wish some video with saddest characters would exist.
Csnt wait for the next video.
I also find it a little ironic that in the manga-adpt. of 'Kingdom Hearts', Pete is portrayed as asomewhat sympathetic flunky who clearly has a crush on Maleficent. (Seriously, he almost confesses a few times.) He even rescues her from her castle when it is collapsing, and it's implied that he's reluctant, but going along with the plan out of fear and respect. =)
Great video! Pete truly is your classic villan! Even when I watched Good Troop as a kid, I questioned why Peg was still married to Pete! LOL!
All these years, and I never knew Pete was supposed to be a cat.
You forgot Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas and House of Villains Pete being the only Mickey Mouse villain who appears in all of these movies
I like the idea that Pete is Mickey Mouse bad guy.
This is a bit off-topic, but if you're still doing videos on mascots, Ronald McDonald, the California Raisins and Jollibee have some shows and movies you can look into. Especially Ronald who has more than the "Wacky Adventures".
@ColinLooksBack
4 жыл бұрын
I've had a Ronald/McDonald's episode on the backburner for a while, but it will probably take some time to gather all the clips and put together a proper episode.
@jenneacubero1036
4 жыл бұрын
@@ColinLooksBack Sweet!! But just so you know, somoe stuff has been found recently like "McDonaldland Loch", "The Adventure Machine", "McDonaldland Family Theatre" and "McKids Adventures".
Nazi spy pete has to be my favorite factoid in this video
@Kiiriminna
2 жыл бұрын
Later comics from cold war era Pete claimed that he was only pretending to be nazi and was actually a communist the whole time. Keeping up with times, this kitty-cat...
Bro. These videos are incredible and very interesting but I cannot believe you didn't mention three musketeers for Pete! That was the most defining thing he's been in, least for me as a y2k baby. He even had a badass song!! 🤣 Great video though
Wow, I had a few VHS tapes as a kid that had old cartoons on them (never truly realized how old until now) and it had the Mad Doctor short on it amongst a ton of others. Lot of Popeye on there. Edit: Holy crap I always had a memory of Mickey getting his brain put in Pete's body and now I know what the hell that was from!
I hope one of your exceptions will be some Disney afternoon villains like Negaduck, Don Karange, and Magica De Spell.
Most entertaining video ever 👌keep up the good work 👍
cant believe you just up and admitted you find peg attractive like that
11:19 wait a sec, is the music used here “Voldemort” by John Williams from the Harry Potter Children’s Suite?
Ah yes, Pete was the reason why I used to be scared of the police when I was a kid. Bear with me. It was from the 1936 Mickey Mouse cartoon "Moving Day" where Pete was a sheriff. Pete didn't even have gun holstered in that cartoon and he still came across as intimidating, personifying police brutality in the 1930's. Billy Bletcher's delivery on lines like "Open the door!" and him laughing after having struck a match under Donald Duck's bill drove that home. Thankfully I learned that it was something of a caricature from the 1930's.
Pete's can easily play the role of John Wayne Gacy in a cartoon version, they are similar!
You mentioned that talk that Peg divorced Pete. Honestly I would love to see a continuation where Pete wants to put his family back together and *attempts* to be a better man.
I just wanted hug pj for a rough childhood he had😢
13:17 the fourth wall cannot protect you
Now i wondering why there there isn't a Mickey Mouse short, where Pete is stealling a jigsaw puzzle piece. XD
EYYY a fellow DCP alumni
I just now realized the music was the fight theme from KH2 and BBS
it was rly interesting with the Treasure Island adaptation they did with Mickey in the european comics, because you had Pete as Long John Silver which made his relationship with Mickey(as Jim Hopkins, naturally) a bit more complicated in that comic
Ghost town villains
Very nice video, it is intresting to see the history involving the short films too, a lot of people seems to forget them. Those were cinema too at the time. Funny thing about the gorilla, I saw those cartoons in reverse order, the Gorilla Mystery being dead last when I could find it on youtube. Pete is a intresting character, so many versions and I have never really read any comic, those old ones seems quite intresting. I will enjoy this serie.
Maybe his peg leg was on his right leg?
PETE IS BACK! i think
am Glad that Pete is still stand The test of time ⭐👍🏿⭐👍🏿⭐👍🏿⭐👍🏿⭐👍🏿⭐
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Question: who has seen the super Mario bros super show Follow up qustion: what would you say if Disney made a Mickey and friends version of the super Mario bros super show with Pete taking on different costumes just like King Koopa
A PegLeg Pete retrospective
I like your description of Pete when compared to Mickey Mouse; just like how Mickey can be placed in just about any situation, whether it be a normal Everyman or an action adventurer or hero, Pete can also be placed i just about any bad guy role, whether it be a minor thug, a scheming mastermind, or just a regular jerk. They truly are the best foils for each other, so it's only fitting that Pete would be Mickey's arch-enemy over the years.
Julius(cat)+ Bootleg(bear)= Pete
In the 2013 Mickey Mouse series Pete got jealous over Mortimer being Mickey's enemy and it's treat like a break up , like how Gumball git jealous when Rob choice Banana Joe to be his arch enemy
I love Pete he's number one of my favourite Disney villains.
ok so the black cloak disguise the mad doctor was wearing in the beginning super reminded me of Phantom Blot