Dude, thanks for watching! The response to my video has been crazy. Huge fan of your work!

@Ziostorm

3 ай бұрын

Great video! Love these theories and hope you keep sharing them 🔥

@Vihbe-Chaan

3 ай бұрын

@@Ziostormher hand is burned and she talks about it too and the cocoon hand is also burned

@jamesbell8253

3 ай бұрын

What about Melina and Mesmer being the same person huh?

@T-Jack733

3 ай бұрын

I think Melina was burned by Mesmer a long time ago. That's why she's burned and has no body and why Mesmer was banished. And Merika brought Melina back as a memory at the foot of the Erdtree. A rebirth if you will and Melina has to go back and remember her purpose and it's to fully burn the Erdtree and bring about a new age something Mesmer tried to do a long time ago and now Merika set up the stage for it to be finished and for the new age to come.

@hassangames9134

3 ай бұрын

You COOKED PERFECTION

I've been holding this theory back from the world... Margit and Morgott are the same person. You're welcome.

@Practicallypreposterous

3 ай бұрын

If they're the same person, then why can Margit show up on the Leyndell battlefield after you killed Morgott? Smh

@fourdayz1414

3 ай бұрын

Margit and Morgott also start with the letter “M”. There might be something there

@Dpickles

3 ай бұрын

WHAT?!?🤯

@ASlopedRoof

3 ай бұрын

It's funny but that probably was the first mind blowing thing most people learn Edit- ya lol to explain, Margit uses a little of holy summoning magic, making it look like it's exactly morgott under his old anonymous name in leyndells army, when he defeated radahn in the opening cutscene. However the more likely explanation than it being a summon or a projection of holy magic, is unfinished content, with Margit maybe having been planned to be another brother, and at the last minute to explain the reuse of bosses, they tied the lore in and made the reused bosses implied to be remembrances or ashes of war themselves, explaining mohgs extra.

@kianhrenak

3 ай бұрын

Yeah.... ​@@Practicallypreposterous

I can’t wait for the dlc to answer none of my questions

@SonOfLum

3 ай бұрын

No, no, it'll leave you with more questions, lol

@bannedguysomebannedguy8309

3 ай бұрын

Lmao I know right?

@jonah11111

3 ай бұрын

And then for Vaati to answer them after all

@alanthe2

3 ай бұрын

@@jonah11111 As is tradition

@Karma-cs1mk

2 ай бұрын

😂

The real unanswered question of Elden Ring is "what will I do with my life after I finish the DLC"

@bobincognito

3 ай бұрын

7:49

@etinarcadiaego7424

3 ай бұрын

Go through every Soulsborne title again.

@sariathebrave5259

3 ай бұрын

Play the next soulslike title

@bluecat.

3 ай бұрын

Wait for sekiro 2

@Silvanohnerizz

3 ай бұрын

Replay it

The Snow White crane, Ranni’s teacher…. IS the Coral Ice Worm on Rubicon

@RecusantEcho

3 ай бұрын

Now this is the lore video we all need

@kylesprenkel680

3 ай бұрын

"Got a Job for you 621" Melina probably meme format

@adeoyesimeon3821

3 ай бұрын

Who let bro cook?

@xersrt

3 ай бұрын

That’s cannon

@dude_who_likes_3d_modeling

3 ай бұрын

Yes

Don't forget the crab that can put you to sleep. Clearly, that crab is also Miquella.

@l.o.v.e-sick5330

3 ай бұрын

A few days ago I shot a runebear with sleepbone bolts and it fell asleep. _You_ can put things to sleep. Rogier says that, quote, "people want to trust you". Who else is stated to be able to compel trust and affection of others very well, pray-tell? One of the keepsakes you can start with is Bewitching Branches, which are associated with who? That's it, boys. We cracked the code. You were Miquella all along!Which means that crab and Melina are also you, since they are Miquella, and Miquella is you.

@bretthake7713

2 ай бұрын

Miqrablla*

@ericwalker6477

2 ай бұрын

Not according to the 4 fingers

@Acesahn

Ай бұрын

Crab doesn't begin with an M so it can't be him.

I noticed that you made a major error in this vid. You said that, "ranni puts kale to sleep with the purple mist." ranni actually puts Kale and his donkey to sleep. I'm surprised and disappointed that you would miss something like this. Lolol love the vids!

@Ziostorm

3 ай бұрын

lol I’ve been exposed

@r3gret2079

3 ай бұрын

The donkey is St. Trina. Lol

@greathorn

3 ай бұрын

Actually the donkey is just pretending to be asleep. He didn’t want to embarrass Ranni

@melik1985

3 ай бұрын

Ah, the Furtive Donkey, so easily forgotten...

@dynamicflashy

3 ай бұрын

What donkey? All I saw was Kale and his dog.

You only see Melina when you REST at a site of grace. Rest = Sleep.

@edst8600

3 ай бұрын

but you can call her for battle with Morgott

@jefftheindianchief8279

3 ай бұрын

@@edst8600 The player character was sleep walking, obviously! Er...Sleep fighting.

@MercurialRaven

3 ай бұрын

​@@jefftheindianchief8279 the Tarnished is so GOATed they don't even need to be awake to spank Morgotts satyr ass

@Bhubnipz

3 ай бұрын

Rest does not equal sleep in any context other than Pokémon 😂

@l.o.v.e-sick5330

3 ай бұрын

Except that rest ≠ sleep. Sleep is rest, but rest is not necessarily sleep. And yes, as another guy already mentioned, you can summon Melina to fight Morgott. You see Melina, Morgott sees Melina, neither of you is asleep during that.

Funfact: Melina don't appear in the frenzied flame ending, if she burned herself at the giant's forge before you went to the three fingers.

@ChaoticUrges

3 ай бұрын

I knew my game wasn't bugged

@eclips_total2215

3 ай бұрын

"The good ending"-Shabiri problably

@nickgreenhow5513

3 ай бұрын

This is actually how I beat my second run, kinda just picked up the frenzied flame afterwards and I didn't have a BITCH in my ear telling me I can't have a fire or whatever.

@MrStarpeto

3 ай бұрын

Exactly my ending, couldn't be happier❤

@ninjack11

3 ай бұрын

truly maidenless

I wonder if Melina is similar to Millicent in the sense that she is the part of Miquella that he divested to enter the Land of Shadow. This would make her lack of memory and affinity with Torrent make more sense.

@swamp-yankee

3 ай бұрын

Here’s another skitzo idea. Could Mesmer also be a fragment of miquella then? He has another M name and melina burned her body prior to the events we participate in, and is opposed to the erdtree. Mesmer is also unknown to Gideon. Just an idea.

@Bhubnipz

3 ай бұрын

Millicent grew from a scarlet bloom so I’m not sure how you would consider them similar even in your own scenario

@echidnaburger02

3 ай бұрын

Millicent herself says that she embodies the dignity and pride that Malenia abandoned to match Radahn. Yes, her and Melina's possible origins are very different in nature, but Millicent definitely sets a precedent for separated aspects of godly beings being able to become their own people once separated from them. Even Radagon could be an example of this, if you subscribe to the idea that he was split from Marika to remove the curse of the fire giants from herself (I personally don't but I won't completely write it off)

@shira_yone

2 ай бұрын

@@Bhubnipz it could happen since Miquella divested his flesh and embedded himself into the Haligtree, waiting to _bloom_ into adulthood. Miquella wants to pursue his own goals, but his mother instilled in him her wishes; maybe Melina is that separated part of him that is still strictly loyal to Marika. In the DLC trailer we see an adult Miquella, so it's safe to say he succeeds in overcoming his curse, despite Mohg's intervention. Maybe nobody knows who Melina is because like Millicent, she exist relatively recently in the aftermath of the Shattering.

@justingabriel1765

2 ай бұрын

I would like that a lot more then them being the same person. More of her being a manifestation of his will or something, I even think it’s possible that Miquella himself could infact be Melenas parent, and instead of Marika it was Miquella.

One thing that is stil very strange is how Melina can know so much and even have the ability to teleport us to the Round table and Gideon Offnir to never drop a single word on her.

@pdamasco

3 ай бұрын

She would have tried to hide from him IMHO. She knew he wasn't the chosen tarnished because clearly Torrent took one sniff of Gideon and went. NOPE, he's not worthy. I see him being a pain in our butts actually. He's gonna try to off the chosen one cause he Jelly 😣

@justice999

2 ай бұрын

​@@pdamasco "ah, i knew you'd come, to talk shit about me in the comment section"

@RavenGamingOverLord

2 ай бұрын

@@justice999 Indeed we have

@alenezi989a3

Ай бұрын

I don't think the title "all knowing" is actual, as in its more of a brag. The player character actually knows way more than Gideon. And if anyone deserves that title it would be Miquilla tbh.

@jiangchen.

Ай бұрын

@@alenezi989a3 He technically still is All-Knowing from the fact that he mastered all mage spells and made the Academy look like a joke. The player knowing more doesn't really make him any less deserving of the title, he's just not the "best" all knowing out there.

I like that the three (Melina, Miquella, St Trina) would complete the tripartite being suggested in the prefix “tri” of “St Trina” (and otherwise reinforced by the 3 petaled lilies and other trinity references)

@caliaid

3 ай бұрын

…huh, re: divesting his flesh, Miquella’s corpse does look burnt, and all the bodies around the Mogh arena are burnt and bursting with fire…

@shaolinshefgaming400

3 ай бұрын

​@@caliaid That could be because blood in Elden Ring is tied to a type of flame, notice anytime you use a "bleed" weapon on anything that reacts to fire, they react in the same way

@puzzleheaded6195

3 ай бұрын

That’s super interesting. There’s an item in the game that’s directly states the “rule of three” is an omen. It reads: “Foot of a four-toed fowl. Material used for crafting items. In the Lands Between, **having three digits is seen as a bad omen.** As such, the rarer four-toed fowl's is a gift of great luck indeed.” Makes me wonder if it’s very intentional that many things regarding Miquella/Malenia have the rule of three. For example, triple rings of light, three butterflies, Malenia’s three blooms required for godhood, and even the Miquella/Trina Lilly’s have the three symbolism on them just like you said. Really gives triple goddess vibes don’t it? Mother, maiden, and the Crone Imo

@fourdayz1414

3 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@shaolinshefgaming400 that’s specifically weapons and spells to do with bloodflame. They deal additional fire damage Regular bleed weapons will do regular bleed damage

@dynamicflashy

3 ай бұрын

@@puzzleheaded6195 ​ Don't forget: the Three Fingers; the Three Sisters in Caria Manor; and Mohg counting down from three (tres)

There is one spot in Liurnia at night, where you can see clearly the Full Moon behind the Erdtree, and there is a veil, the grace is Eastern Liurnia Lake Shore, as soon as you arrive, pass time to night, then just walk a bit in the direction you can see the Erdtree, then you see the Full Moon and the veil.

@TheSkyfolk

3 ай бұрын

You can see those thin translucent rays better from caelid, and they're completely straight. Not a veil unfortunately, I wanted to believe you but in trying to confirm it in game, I debunked you instead.

@dynamicflashy

3 ай бұрын

I think those are light rays. It's visible throughout Eastern Liurnia at night. If you look at the Elden Ring map, the same rays are visible around the Erdtree.

@fishsticks2965

3 ай бұрын

@@dynamicflashy my boyfriend saw them and showed them to me, and I thought they could almost resemble the gaps between the veils? you can see them in limgrave also, and they look more scattered like they're supposed to just be light rays but I wasn't certain.

Watching a video of Ziostorm reacting to a video of Timdiggity referencing information brough up by Ziostorm is a cyclical insanity I hadn't realized I needed. You're right there alongside Tim; putting everything together a few seconds before he mentions it.

@timdiggity

3 ай бұрын

I know, right? This was surreal to watch

@garbagegrove2533

3 ай бұрын

Now what if Timdiggity does a response video to justify Ziostorm’s contentions while playing this reaction video.

@MossOwnsYouYT

3 ай бұрын

@garbagegrove2533 Honestly? It would be hilarious, especially when it swings around to Zio watching Tim referencing the old Zio vids. Like, 4 layer deep schizo-theorizing. The video would have it's own iceberg level of background.

I like the theory, I can see Melina being St Trina as a way to be a go between for the black knives and Ranni. I also like the theory of Godwyn being a martyr and we find out they were all in on it to hide the deed from Marika (Ranni, Miquella/Melina, Malenia, Gowdyn) because it involves bringing back destined death to the lands between which the golden order 100% doesn't want, but Godwyns death goes wrong and we have miquella wracked with guilt, perhaps it is what causes the infighting with the rest of the family. Very George R R martinesque IMO.

@Practicallypreposterous

3 ай бұрын

Screenshotting this incase you're right and I'm short on Reddit karma

@PBart7

2 ай бұрын

That's a very interesting and unique theory!

@Biggietalls779

Ай бұрын

Pretty much unconfirmed via dlc. St. Trina is in it and is not Melina.

the argument that make the most sense is these characters connection to our horse companion torrent.

@etinarcadiaego7424

3 ай бұрын

Torrent is Miquella's horse.

@AzariahWolf

3 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? Clearly the best argument is that both names start with M!

@BLP04

3 ай бұрын

This whole argument really just boils down to “we’re never told she isn’t Miquella” and “they got da same honse”

@crozraven

3 ай бұрын

sometimes, it IS that simple & totally right under our nose

@FlyingFox86

3 ай бұрын

I think the image of St-Trina, with the mark on the left eye, is also pretty convincing.

The most compelling reason for this theory is that after Melina joins, you’re still considered maidenless.

@anaguma90

Ай бұрын

bro thought he got a girlfriend but it was a femboy

Ranni uses a mist for sleep, which could be a spell. Melina touches the tarnished and he falls asleep, I can’t think of any other instance of that happening in the game.

@BRONCOS997

3 ай бұрын

With the theory of ranni and malenia/st trina working together to take out godwyn, maybe malenia/st trina gave ranni the spell to use sleep mist to give the player torrent

@HoneyBanev

2 ай бұрын

@@BRONCOS997 why are you calling miquella malenia? pls stop

@Tearopp

Ай бұрын

@@BRONCOS997and this niga wrong too Miquella is not Melina

"M" dude, "M". Case. Closed.

This music feels like I'm in a Dreamcast options menu.

@ripdeyu

3 ай бұрын

I can tell you the last song is from ridge racer!! R4 It was sampled by jpeg mafia :D

@jmssun

3 ай бұрын

Funny thing is dreamcast is one of the power of Saturn, color is purple… literally St Trina

@nightshadehelis9821

3 ай бұрын

I genuinely miss those days. "it's thinking 🍥"

@joesaiditstrue

2 ай бұрын

ridge racer type 4 OST is sprinkled throughout his video

At this point, with everyone in this game also being someone eles, I wouldn't be surprised if someone came out with a theory that Boc is actually Radahn.

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

Or Millicent is the reincarnation of Melania and her true power won't come through until Melania dies and she spawns from her cacoon?

@IronSideBA

3 ай бұрын

@@BlackViod thats a bit of a stretch considering they literally interact with each other before the events of the game

@notbateman4298

3 ай бұрын

The elder ring characters would be masters of catfishing

@GodfreyFirstEldenLord

3 ай бұрын

Well there’s an argument given the fact that boc gives you mushrooms and mushrooms are closely associated with the scarlet rot which happens to be infecting radahn. Also radahn behaves like an animal and boc is an anima just further strengthening the believe that elden ring is about duality. Just like radagon is Marika radahn is boc

@GodfreyFirstEldenLord

3 ай бұрын

@@IronSideBAactually I’m fairly certain some guy said that there was an entire Dialoge after finishing the Millicent quest that confirms that Millicent actually is malenia just like the other sister and when you do the questline there’ll be a unique cutscene or smth so it isn’t completely stupid

Something I want to add, I don't think it's Ranni that puts Kale to sleep, I think Melina puts Kale to sleep so that Ranni can give you the summoning bell. Everybody thought it was Ranni because Ranni is sitting right there, but there's no indication that it was actually Ranni.

@Bhubnipz

3 ай бұрын

….no indication other than she is logically the one who would do it. What indication is there that it was Melina?

@shira_yone

2 ай бұрын

@@Bhubnipz for one, Melina have precedent of putting people to sleep. I don't remember whether Ranni ever did such a thing other than this one instance (if it is her doing). Not a strong evidence admittedly.

@iioic6867

2 ай бұрын

Why would melina do allat and not just give you the bell in the first place... use your brain

@SirCanuckelhead

2 ай бұрын

Seeing how the player can find a cookbook which teaches them to make sleep pots… someone like ranni could know that book or made something similar with the flowers.

What I find strange is that he doesn't mention all the dialog Melina has about Marika and that she quotes her directly. I always wondered how Melina knew about what Marika said

Something that gets really interesting to think about in the context of this theory is that one line about St. Trina he brings up "Some say she was a comely young girl, others are sure he was a boy". I think this could be a situation like Radagon and Marika being the same person, but actually two unique people at the same time, Radagon and Marika aren't just two consciousnesses in one body, when one wants to do something they physically swap bodies. Most people just assume that line in the St. Trina's sword is referring to Miquella's androgynous appearance, but maybe the reason nobody can agree on their gender is because they're followers were actually interacting with two different people without realizing it, some of their followers met Miquella and some of their followers met Melina, and in reality they're both St. Trina

AgentJake had a really interesting theory that Ranni and Godwin were actually supposed to be the God and Elden lord of the next age. Building on that, I think theres potential to the fact that, Godwin may have martyred himself willingly for Ranni, knowing that she refused to be a "puppet" to the 2 fingers, making himself, in a way, a god of death. All while Marika was unaware.

@eprimchad2576

3 ай бұрын

Idk if he martyred himself seeing as we see the black knives holding him down and murdering him.

@MGHL9898

3 ай бұрын

@randconfig8626 yeah that's kinda the idea. It's asserting that Ranni and Godwin were closer than what we are led to believe in game. That she confided in him that she didn't want to aquiesce to the two fingers, and planned to sacrifice herself, perhaps entirely to do so. Hell, maybe Godwin is the one who came up with the idea of splitting the rune of death so she could get her age of stars while he became a God of death.

@reign1594

3 ай бұрын

Hmm

@scragglie

3 ай бұрын

agt jake is a clown and has no clue what hes talking about 99% of the time. id take any of his videos with a small grain of salt.

@GodfreyFirstEldenLord

3 ай бұрын

That theory doesn’t make much sense especially since Marika is said to be tied with the black knife assassins, she also send me away so I couldn’t whoop their butts so I think they’re all somewhat tied to the black knife event. Y’all gotta realize that godwyn is a demi god a super powerful one as well so it’s not super outlandish to think that the black knife assassins got some help from another demi god or multiple. Godwyn and morgott seem to be extremely strong lore wise to begin with given the fact that morgott beat a younger radahn possible the same strength radahn who just got bigger due to the shard of the elden ring. I seriously doubt that a few black knifes assassins could beat godwyn without help that seems unbelievable given that we’re talking about gods and demi gods

What if Marika is just a Mimic Tear. She's a Ditto to the world of Elden Ring

The amount of the video keeps saying it has been “confirmed” is giving me strong Ancient Aliens vibes.

@mage1439

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, not a big fan of "I have total proof" followed by very precarious circumstantial evidence and ignoring evidence to the contrary.

The maidens of successful tarnished are ALL turned into Kindling, as seen with Vyke, Sabari’s dialogue, and Bernadt (the dude from volcano manor that sells you stuff and jumps you). So they are all kindling maidens

it's just a theory but maybe the godskin being more susceptible to sleep is because they were/are fighting against the frenzied flame and so being more easily influenced by sleep would help them sooth the effect of the frenzied flame should they be inflicted(but this does rely on the cut content being the intended lore so there's a high chance of it not being true).

Imagine you open a random door in the dlc and you end up in the round table hold, like the one you've been in the whole game.

@Odin_Oracle

3 ай бұрын

Enter Leyndell

@thesilentabyss8563

3 ай бұрын

@@Odin_Oracle I know but I'm saying literally the same place.

@justingabriel1765

2 ай бұрын

Oh like that door in the Room that Fia killed D in, that door is locked and you end up just walking right into Hewig lol 😂, I think that would mean that we’d have to explore some place that would eventually be on fire, because so is the round table when you burn the Erdtree

@Arastat1

2 ай бұрын

Miyazaki already told in an inverview that this won't happen, the Shadowland is a completely isolated instance.

Maybe the hand in the cocoon belongs to Messmer and the shadow lands in the dlc is a memory version that can only be accessed by touching Messmer's hand. Mohg might've stolen Miquela's body to bring him to the shadow lands for some reason.

@randywilliams6248

3 ай бұрын

I've wondered about this as well. Good theory

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

I'd be down with this theory if the actual purpose of cacooning himself was to evolve to save his sister.

@Neglefarot

3 ай бұрын

It does look like a thin tall guy 👍

@randywilliams6248

3 ай бұрын

Doesn't Mohg's blood attacks have a flame effect when he uses them? I don't think they all do, but pretty sure some do have it. He could be under the impression that it's Miquella's blood and in all reality, it's Messmer's

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

@@randywilliams6248 mesmer could be miquella corrupted by mohg's blood

Pretty good fit for "the secret" yet to be discovered that Miyazaki recently referred to

Referring to sidesaddle as a "strange position" made me chuckle the first time I heard it, and here again. :P

Well tbf melina only visits you when you’re at a site of grace and what do you to when you’re at a site of grace? You rest or in other words maybe you sleep/dream. That’s why it’s entirely possible that melina is miquella

@GodfreyFirstEldenLord

3 ай бұрын

Well looks like someone else already commented that so I guess we’re on the same page

5:47 lol Zio mentioning the next point and acting like he hasn’t watched the video yet is hilarious 🤣

@certifiedcib7958

3 ай бұрын

Nooooo He does it again at 9:50 😭 that’s so annoying 💀

The arm in the cocoon looks more like Messmer's than Miquella's.

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

Miquella underwent a transformation in his cacoon. So what if mohg corrupted his transformation with his blood and mesmer was the product of that corruption?

@nefarious8278

3 ай бұрын

Maybe Miquella has fooled the whole world and his evil

damn ER fans go so deep into the lore that i even thought i was watching a documentary and a theory about history of our past, it's very entertaining for someone who doesn't know much to hear about the counterpoints of someone who knows as much as the person who came up with the theory, nice work to both creators

RIP to all the Melina Stan’s that thought they weren’t gay

@javiersoto5223

3 ай бұрын

Miquella is a girl. Watch the dlc prove it. The evidence is there. I would also bet money the voice of the dlc trailer is miquella and it definitely sounds feminine. And u can't say its because miquella is a Child because you can clearly see a grown version in the trailer.

@mitchryan257

3 ай бұрын

All the more reason this theory cannot be true.

@DarkBeforeSpawn

3 ай бұрын

​@@mitchryan257 yep, you're gay dude

@streptococo4735

3 ай бұрын

To be honest Melina being Miquella is quite insane. It is more likely that Melina is just a clone of Marika the same way Millicent is a clone of Malenia.

@xperimental839

2 ай бұрын

@@streptococo4735 Sounds like copping to me lmao

I eat this stuff up, man. Love these reaction videos. Keep em coming!

I've been on the same thought train as you Zio about the collaborators of the night of black knives, but each participant had their own motives. Ranni, her freedom, Miquella, the revival of his brother to be a godly consort to his haligtree, Rykard, to fight back against the Erdtree and Marika to escape her role.

@Ziostorm

3 ай бұрын

Definitely some overlapping paths with all of that. I doubt it was as simple as just a murder

Broooo!!! And she puts us to sleep at the fire giant!!!

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

If she were truly miquella, you would've never laid a finger on Melania.

@IronSideBA

3 ай бұрын

@@BlackViod shes optional

@gixelz

3 ай бұрын

so?@@IronSideBA

@fabiancarrera4123

3 ай бұрын

​@gixelz it means that lorewise, we never actually fight Malenia. Just like Gwyndolin in Ds1. You can fight him but lorewise he gets consumed by Aldritch in Ds3

@Oddspace337

3 ай бұрын

@@BlackViod true. I wonder how he will feel in the dlc because of that?

Personally my theory would be instead that Messmer and Melina are related, either by being twins, or the same person separated ( in the same way as Radagon/Marika) as both seems to have a link with fire and "creating trees" and it's already speculated that Messmer already burned the Erdtree, making it the first cardinal sin.

@sulfenir2477

3 ай бұрын

to add another parallel to the list, something is going on with both their left eyes. from the promotional material I've seen, messmers left eye is always closed just like melina (until frenzied ending).

@shippuunotenshi2

3 ай бұрын

@@sulfenir2477 exactly!

Im so happy you found this video!!!!

I love learning Elden Ring lore from your uploads, and a lot of them are thought provoking!❤

I was thinking melina was mesmer

@jamesbell8253

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I haven't heard anyone talk about this

@gg-itzpg2212

3 ай бұрын

Same i been meaning to post about it for a while

@jamesbell8253

3 ай бұрын

@@gg-itzpg2212 that also makes Mesmer the counter half to the Gloam eyed queen. I think Melina is Miquellas doing but by meddling with the spirit of Mesmer after the first cardinal sin. That's why her body is burned and i believe that's what's in the cocoon. Also explains Mesmer s flame black flame and the hatred for the frenzied flame

5:58 i'm not sold on Melina = Miquella, but about the Ranni Sleep VS Melina sleep: Melina puts you to sleep after direct touch, displayed clearly via cutscene, which implies she innately has something sleep-related to her. The method used by Ranni is completely undisclosed, meaning she could've used sleeping pots or anything else. So he is correct, in fact Melina is the *_only one we are aware_* that has *_this sort_* of ability. 12:49 cmon dude, not a single laugh? xD you need to humor yourself a bit more 20:23 yeah I really think those are isolate things, not really related. 24:12 Idk what youre into, but the ring never left the corpse's hand. Maybe it is cut content that I was not aware. 27:22 do it. Considering how Miquella is described (somewhat 'manipulative'), i'm 100% sure he has a finger on a lot more things. I personally believe that Miquella is the one that teach Ranni about how she could get rid of her corpse and encouraged that. I dont believe Ranni was that smart to know how to create such rituals. And the only other smart and 'innovative' figure we know is Miquella, and his intelligence and capacities are praised multiple times in the game.

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

Yes but st Trina is described as a child just as miquella is. Melina is all woman

@rickisnothome

3 ай бұрын

@@BlackViodst trina is also both claimed to be a man and a woman so,,,

@shira_yone

2 ай бұрын

@@BlackViod Miquella in the DLC video trailer also doesn't seem like a child, so maybe after he attain adulthood Melina's form followed, who knows

@BlackViod

2 ай бұрын

@@shira_yone who knows, we shall see. I still don't think Miquella would sit by and let you kill the one person he's worked tirelessly to save. Remember everything he's doing is in the name of saving his sister and his brother.

First saw this vid from AgtJake Very happy you covered it as well man!

Yo I totally called this like a year ago! Glad to see the rest of yall are catching up😜

Saw this video few days ago and thought immediately that you will bring this up

the kaka consumer is definitly the tarnished one

I figured this one would get over to you pretty soon. I'm just glad i caught that video before you did! Lol

@SocraTetris

3 ай бұрын

There are other veiled spaces other than roundtable hold or the land of shadow. Namely the Evergaols, which are also powered by purple magic. Seems more likely to associate that with sleep than with gravity

the one standing in front of the cocoon at the beginning of the trailer looks like melina

Artorias is Maliketh change my mind

@willzjohns556

3 ай бұрын

You right man

@etinarcadiaego7424

3 ай бұрын

Kale is Iosefka.

@skeeplebop

3 ай бұрын

This is my attempt at changing your mind: ... Did it work?

@Tokyoprism

3 ай бұрын

Oh my god that’s hilarious hahaha

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

Artorias wouldn't be forced to damn himself, he chose that path. Maliketh was commanded to do so. The disrespect. You owe artorias and sif an apology.

With their argument about the burning. Melina could just aswell be a burnt and bodiless Ranni. Her soul etched to the doll and her discarded great rune returned as Melina. Hence the matching sealed eyes

@edasayg5774

3 ай бұрын

I believe you need to burn yourself in order to live as a spirit or live in spirit world. Ranni's body is burnt and she is a spirit, Melina is burnt and is a spirit, Miquela's corpse looks burnt and he's in the spirit realm, maybe Mohg's bloodFLAME has something to do with it. Burning yourself seperates the soul from the body.

@HoneyBanev

2 ай бұрын

her rune is the rune of death or what?

I just realised that it’s now less than two months left until the DLC and we might finally actually get some more info

Nice video as always and interesting theory, cheers from Germany

I personally subscribe to the Gloam Eyed/Dusk Eyed connection but it's nice the community comes together so we can try and tie it all together 💎

@fulmenmoon40

3 ай бұрын

I actually think that Ranni was the gloam eyed queen defeated by Maliketh, who then resorted to murdering Godwyn to get her way. A godskin is guarding her body.

Bro I literally messaged you about 10+ times on discord explaining this entire theory to you last year. At this point I have the oldest post on reddit explaining this theory as well as a new post summarizing the latest version. I absolutely am claiming credit for coming up with this theory first and have been telling everyone about it for 2 years to make sure I get that credit. So glad to see everyone coming around now!!!

@cosseybomb

3 ай бұрын

This theory is pretty bad considering all other facts in the game

@CukMcGee

3 ай бұрын

Na bro I said this 2 years ago. Give me my flowers

@twogifsonecup

3 ай бұрын

@@CukMcGee when i posted there were only 2 other reddit posts about it but they have been deleted. why'd you delete your post. [gives flowers]

@eprimchad2576

3 ай бұрын

Youre taking credit but there was already 2 posts about it? Very convincing pal you did it!! You solved elden ring and got the updoots!!

@lolardwtf

3 ай бұрын

@@eprimchad2576 lmfao and he thinks that everyone in the world who's come up with a theory since has seen his reddit post.

If they wanted to make a connection between Mohg holding the hand in the cocoon and the player holding melina's hand to go to the round table, they would have made it the same animation. Not only is the animation different but the hand that's on top is swapped with your hand being on top in one situation and mohgs on the bottom in the other

Hearing music from ape escape anywhere is always a Joy

it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Melina is a cloned bud of her mother the way Millicent is a cloned bud of Malenia. The major clue to this is the fact that they wear the exact same clothing, but they also behave in a similar way. They have memory loss, they search for meaning in life and feel pulled in one direction but can choose to forge their own path instead, they have some relationship with their mother and are compelled to return to them, etc. Melina is Marika's daughter. Marika was the Gloam-Eyed Queen and forced into obedience to the Greater Will by her empyrean shadow, Maliketh. This is why Marika resents Maliketh and only has a single use for him, to hold her old power of Destined Death somewhere a chosen Tarnished can steal it back.

@mattb6616

3 ай бұрын

Melina is Marika's only child without another parent. She's asexually reproduced, like the opposite of "grafting". Marika took a cutting of herself and cultivated it into a new body, the way Gowry did to Malenia to create her daughters.

@user-mp6tu7ro7x

3 ай бұрын

woah dude omg i am going to crazy with this theories

@streptococo4735

3 ай бұрын

@@mattb6616 makes more sense than to think Melina is somehow Miquella. Which would be pretty insane since it means Mohg stole the wrong guy all this time.

100% thought Zio had more melanin lol

The point about the Roundtable Hold also holds up with the association you found with the Confessors and their symbol. Considering you find their crossbow and spellbook there, that does further give me believe we'll see more Confessor stuff in the dlc.

Brought to you by the same people who think the Carthus Sand Worm is Solaire

@swyjix

3 ай бұрын

Real, as in faux, as in ersatz, as in as if, as in hoax, as in cap, as in fake.

@SteelKreel

3 ай бұрын

wait wot

@MetaSonic543

3 ай бұрын

It’s not?

@buckyhurdle4776

3 ай бұрын

@@MetaSonic543 No one knows if it is or not, including this very confident commenter.

@amadhollow635

3 ай бұрын

He is👀 Sorta It’s the sunlight maggot having eaten him

cool theory, but id be kinda disappointed to find out that the most mysterious character in the game turns out to just be an alter ego

We know that when given a grace the body of that individual goes through a form of change (when we defeat margitt and then see his real body being held by his father) so it’s not a far stretch to claim that a grace may give someone unique abilities of their particular god, like for example they might be able to separate their soul from their bodies into another or even split their soul into fragments.

😎👍✨ I love this video and love the whole crazy theory ideas. I think dude has something there. I can't wait for DLC

Sephiroth is St. Trina using his powers to trolling us in the lands between

@matheusbecker2351

3 ай бұрын

Sephiroth is strong enough to cast meteors, but even he is vulnerable to gravity.

@shaolinshefgaming400

3 ай бұрын

@@matheusbecker2351 idk about that the man flies with one wing

If Melina is Miquella/Trina, that would mean I fell for another dude, it would be Gwyndolin all over again.

@CukMcGee

3 ай бұрын

Fr

@Moody.Smiruai

3 ай бұрын

Miyazaki is trying his hardest to make us fall for the gay traps.

@Manus_0813

3 ай бұрын

You fell for a dude with tentacles. 😂😂

@azizella2778

2 ай бұрын

Nah but to be fair Melina is a girl even if she's part of Miquella 😂

@RavenGamingOverLord

2 ай бұрын

@@azizella2778 Are sure you about that?

Need more of these reaction videos from zio the goat

The same purple sleep haze is present on our first meeting with melina as well

Sleep is the cousin of death Melina is the empyrean of the former great tree which is being over shadowed by the erdtree which was grown so that people could have a proper death cycle

@ETERNALXGAMEPLAY

3 ай бұрын

So if anything Melina and Mequilla are aunt and nephew working together

@sillythewanderer4221

3 ай бұрын

@@ETERNALXGAMEPLAYwhat reason do you have to think that the great tree is different from the erdtree?

@ETERNALXGAMEPLAY

3 ай бұрын

@@sillythewanderer4221 it simply was the tree before the erdtree it was grown during the rise of intelligence across the lands between starting with the profit depicted all over Moghwyn palace

@ETERNALXGAMEPLAY

3 ай бұрын

Ps. The great tree was prophesied by that character shortly after flown eye queen aka Melina and Marika are labeled as empyreans

This will be the most epic dlc ever released

An interesting video bro, I guess we'll just have to wait and see!😮😊

How did we miss this indeed

I just realized this. You mostly see Melina when you are RESTING at a grace. Trina only visits people in dreams. Sleep is also involved with her other appearances in the cave of knowledge and at the Flame of the Giants. That could be intentional design. I'm still highly skeptical of the theory but its just one more small connection.

That Hand in the cocoon is probably Mesmers hand. Just occurred to me. Long lanky arm just like Mesmer

@ASlopedRoof

3 ай бұрын

Probably not tbh with ya, mesmers appearance is probably just based on miquella because they wanted to give us a miquella boss fight, or at least another demigod boss fight and great rune. (Was just one of the unfinished things on the to do list when they rushed the game out)

@Odin_Oracle

3 ай бұрын

@@ASlopedRoof all of your comments pertain to calling the game’s lore implications as a result of “rushed” product😭😭 I even saw you imply that Margit was rushed because they look exactly the same, as if Genichiro doesn’t exist (you fights him the exact same, 3 different times in the game) lmaoo. Both characters aren’t rushed.. their purpose is to serve as a ‘pursuer’ archetype. Reoccurring lol. Oh and Miquella’s body is big because his soul was defiled out his body. Not because the game was rushed💀💀💀. I don’t think you can even infer that the game was rushed purely based on something that the player is NEVER supposed to see (inside Miquella’s cocoon). What does his body being big got to do with a game being rushed😂

@ASlopedRoof

3 ай бұрын

@@Odin_Oracle huh? The game was rushed because quests were unfinished and slashed down, there was no colosseum, half the endings are half a line of dialogues difference, the main ranni quest is poorly translated til the actual endgame cutscene, the areas like the forbidden lands are implied to be important(they exist in all early builds maps) but never got any reference in lore besides a Map description, etc etc. Hey guy, if the game wasn't rushed, then why did they did immediately add in a bunch of content like quests and colosseums? Or do you have an answer as to how exactly the giants on the mountain tops died? Cus it sure looks like an unfinished area to me.

@vera39440

2 ай бұрын

​@@ASlopedRoof first souls game huh

@ASlopedRoof

2 ай бұрын

@@vera39440 No, I started with demon souls on the ps3. I just actually play video games, am not dumb as a box of rocks by groupthink, and have heard the interview where Miyazaki talks about how they wanted to introduce a lot more, and have seen all the reworks in the coding through the development process that people have posted on KZread. Guess what, game was unfinished. Here derp. Also it is the best game ever made imo, but I purposely kept that part out to troll all the dipstick groupthinkers like you buddy.

loving the ridge racer type 4 ost in his video

I also noticed in the art they released Miquella is specifically covering one eye (posting half way through the video)

Very interesting and fun theory. Not too sold on it, but I can't say it isn't possible, and I kinda want it to be true. For me the biggest problem is that it just feels weird that Miquella would be 4 people at once: Himself, Melina, St. Trina, and The Gloam-Eyed Queen. There's one thing I would like to add though. It's to do with the way Miquella could compel other people. I think Melina sort of has this element as well. You need to accept Melina's accord to enter Leyndell. You literally cannot beat the game without doing what Melina asks of you. Melina is compelling you to accept her accord and help her get to the Erdtree. Maybe it's a minor or irrelevant input, but I think it helps the theory out at least

@HoneyBanev

2 ай бұрын

melina is not the gloam eyed queen, because there s no reason she is

Timdiggity is the elden ring Einstein! 😂

Crazy I just watched this last Friday!

I have always had this in my head ever since i played/finished elden ring putting the story pieces together. I will be so happy if this is the case because it meant i was right and so are ppl alike! Cant wait to see

The point that the Trina's Torch face looks like Melina reminds me that before the game even came out, people noticed that Ranni's 2nd, ethereal face is shaped like Melina's. I also noticed how the strange marking on Melina's eye is gone in the Frenzy ending. It has noticeably left an imprint, but it's not scarred. It's more like when you wear something so long that the skin it covered got paler. The other point on the Torch is that it's kinda cracked all around, so the "scar" on the face can be just a crack or chip. It explains why it doesn't actually look to line up with Melina's tattoo-lookin' thing. It comes down from the center of the eye then goes down and slightly to the right rather than curving to the left from the right of the eye. I always thought the thing on Melina's eye was a piece of metal when I first looks at it. Made it leaving an imprint in the Frenzy ending more logical. But after looking at it a bit more, I think it's an actual marking like a tattoo. Maybe a seal of some sort that she removed to face the world the Frenzy Flame left behind. Anyway, cute theory but not at all convinced. Things like Torrent could be as simple as Melina not being considered his master. Just someone holding onto him. Former doesn't have to mean last either. And powers attributed to Miquella and Trina aren't necessarily unique to them. Plenty come and go from Roundtable, and Ranni obviously knew some sleep magic, so Melina surely could as well. They all could even have overlapping goals and similar interests while being distinct individuals quite easily. Glad the theory's out there at least.

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

The marking isn't gone, it's dulled like the seal was broken. And that can only be explained by the release of destined death at malikeths defeat...you know the one who took destined death from the gloam eyed queen and sealed it away and left her with nasty burns and scars?

I came across this video when it dropped and said "it sounds plausible but I don't know anything. If Zio sees this he'll clear it up"

Its called Riding Side Saddle... and Side Saddles do exist.

The arm in the cocoon and Mesmer's are are the same. Miquella probably kidnapped him with their love power.

I believe the shining figure in the DLC trailer is not Miquella, but Godwyn the Golden. First indication of this comes from the trailer itself: To reach the land of Shadow Miquella had to divest himself of his golden lineage. Godwyn's story also seem to parallel the story of Balder in northern mythology, and if the Shadow lands are connected to the afterlife this serve as a further parallel to the Balder myth.

@BlackViod

3 ай бұрын

Would his soul reach the afterlife? It was kind of destroyed in the ritual...

@bringoutthegimp636

3 ай бұрын

Nah interview with fromsoft confirmed it’s miquella

I commented this idea a month ago on Your video "who is messmer the impaler". It always bothered me how melina background was kinda lacking, but it was not lacking. It was there the whole time lol

Well I don't think Melina is Miquella, or that the body in the Cocoon, is Miquella, but I do think it could be Messmer, and I think it's possible that Mohg and Messmer to some unknown extent are actually being used by Miquella as a conduit to the Formless Mother. I think Miquella, if he is truly modeled after you know who from Berserk, is gonna try and usurp Mohg's Dynasty and make contact with the Formless mother, get all the blood he needs for the Haligtree from the Formless Mother herself, change it's properties to heal afflictions and Malania of the Scarlet Rot maybe by combining the unalloyed gold with Bloodflame, and possibly even cure Godwyn of the death blight. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the clip of a bright glowing Miquella in Golden Flames isn't exactly that. Unalloyed Bloodflame or something. If the Formless Mother really has no intention of intruding on the affairs of the mortal world Miqualla could have found his perfect choice for an Outer God who would not meddle, and provide a true unalloyed golden order with a full fledged Haligtree powered by an endless supply of blood from the Formless Mother. All completely separate from the Erdtree. Also, I can't help but wonder if: 1. Marika was in fact the Gloam Eyed Queen, 2. That when Maleketh defeated her he sealed death for her to maintain the Golden Order, but it was a lie because Marika is secretly plotting for the Nox, but told him this to cover her true intentions. 3. That Malaketh was the Death of the Demigods because he was the right hand of Marika as the Gloam Eyed Queen. 4. That Malaketh eventually defeated Marika as Gloam Eyed Queen and the Godskins because he was ordered to do so by the Two Fingers because Marika as the GEQ burned the old tree. 5. The period in which Malaketh defeated Marika was the missing piece of the transition from the The Crucible era to the Erdtree Era a lor of people are missing. 6. I think Maleketh took the Gloam Eye from Marika upon her defeat as the GEQ and that's why it is a stone eye in his possession. 7. I think Melina actually inherits Destined Death the way Marika did as the Gloam Eyed Queen when Destined Death was released back into the world, and while she was not the previous GEQ she is the new one if not burned. 8. I think the spear in Marika's side may be a wound from Malaketh's Blade that reappered only when Destined Death was returned to the world, just like the reason why the Erdtree burned in that moment. Could be all the ways Destined Death was used returned as well. 9. I believe that the transition from Marika being the Empyrean GEQ to becoming a god and the vessel of the Elden Ring was a punishment of the Two Fingers, not a reward, and they they gave her not only the Elden Ring at this time, but they also gave her Radagon. This not only was to turn her into the perfect Rebis, but as a check on her future actions. Remember, Radagon's driving motivation was achieving perfection, but I think this is actually the driving motive of the Elden Ring itself, and Radagon may be a personification of the will of the Elden Ring itself. 10. I think Radagon is a manifestation of the Elden Ring itself, in perfect opposition to Marika and therefore a perfect punishment AND a perfect Rebis to make new Empyreans. In fact I think Radagon has been slowly taking over Marika over the years, but she still has control, and mocks him for it, which is why she also won out, and shattered the Elden Ring, because she is a God, and Radagon is not. 11. I Think it's possible the reason she was upset, if at all over Godwyn's death, may be because Godwyn was possibly an actual Empyrean not born of Radagon? Which begs the question if actually possible, how could Godfrey have an empyrean child? I imagine even if conspiring against the Erdtree Marika would find extreme value in this. Does anybody know this to be true or false? 12. I think the age of Plenty was a ploy by Marika to weaken the "Crucible" tree, before eventually burning it. IDK, these are some of my crazy theories, but I had to put them down SOMEWHERE to make sense of it all.

@HoneyBanev

2 ай бұрын

omg can you people write the names properly, why is this shit, for some reason people call commander shepard sheperd or shepherd, and fucking this, IT MALIKETH, THE I NOT E

They hand might be Godwyn body. Since he has the connection (after true death) to Lands Between and Land of Shadows now, so he could be used as pathway

Melina is Miquella. Melina is the gloam-eyed queen. Melina is Messmer. What's next? Melina is the Greater Will? Sometimes, a rose is just a rose. Melina is the kindling maiden. That strikes me like a full-time job. Also, she a woman, not a girl. Miquella's beef is his/her inability to progress to adult form. If Miquella was moonlighting as an adult Melina, that would eviscerate everything we know about this character's motivation. I do think it's an interesting possibility that Miquella's alter ego vis-a-vis the St Trina situation is someone we're familiar with. I just don't think it's Melina. She has enough going on. All you gloam-eyed queen is melina advocates are responsible for opening this particular door. Really liked your take on the radagon/marika conundrum. You should do a video on that. There's still too many people out there who think he's an extension of marika instead of a individual character with his own motivations.

Women in medieval times will ride a horse sideways or with both legs together to protect their HYMEN to prove and keep their VIRGINITY. That information should be shared and explored more when comparing Melina and Miquella

@mementomori8991

3 ай бұрын

What?

@scheherazade2291

3 ай бұрын

It could also just because you have to ride side saddle if you wear long skirts.

I was wondering if that dudes video would go mainstream! Wow cant belive i randomly caught it so early

I dont like reaction content

@mito569

3 ай бұрын

then dont watch it?

@pixy01_

3 ай бұрын

Don't watch

@QuantumTelephone

3 ай бұрын

​@@mito569 let him voice his opinion. Ziostorm wants the feedback

@mito569

3 ай бұрын

@@QuantumTelephone this is not a feedback

@QuantumTelephone

3 ай бұрын

@mito569 you're right. I mean if his audience didn't like the reaction content, he would want to know.

what if the red herring/corpse in the cocoon is messmers body divested of his flesh, body is kind of lanky like his

23:26 I'd say that there's a fair bit of evidence that there is some history between St. Trina and the gloam eyed queen. It would cement the double helix as Miquella's symbol, rather than just something to do with outer gods. The double helix ring in particular is interesting. We see it on Messmer's crest, on the Haligtree knights, and around the roundtable hold symbol.

The engraving on the torch also looks like Messmer with snake like hair and messmer controls fire as do some giants and that eye of st.trina could coincide with the eyes of the giants

The round table hold is inside the Erd Tree, that’s why when you burn the Erd Tree the round table hold is also on fire when you visit it.

The hand in the cocoon might as well have been a dried up Messmer all along for all we know