The level of incompetence shown here is absolutely stunning.

@mactcampbell

3 жыл бұрын

you got that right. I doubt that they had the load weight or the maximum load radius before starting. The crane was lifting over the side...weaker quadrant. And the by standers don't even mention the bystanders. They could have been all wiped out.

@andrewcooke5392

3 жыл бұрын

@@mactcampbell Yeah, the spectators seemed to be standing in line with the jib of the crane whilst it was teetering, if it had gone I think a few would possibly have been crushed.

@otto16121970

3 жыл бұрын

Gregory P How many boats did you lift into the water then?

@mactcampbell

3 жыл бұрын

@@otto16121970 It doesn't matter. The basics of crane operation remains the same. Part of doing a lift is planning the lift which includes determining load weight, crane's capacity at load radius over the side.

@singlefin7768

3 жыл бұрын

mactcampbell you’re better off starting over the side than ending upon the side when you put it in the water

I’m a certified crane operator so I’ll add my two cents. this is a classic case of overload. I’m sure no one checked the load chart and I’m sure no one knew the weight of the pick. Lots of guessing and this is the results

@scdevon

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input. I knew the outcome of the video ahead of time, but that crane looked too small for a boat built that heavily even to an amateur eye.

@pogojava

3 жыл бұрын

@@scdevon actually the crane might have been adequate for the lift but the capacity changes with the angle of the boom to the crane centerline. So if he picks too far out he has reduced the capacity of the crane to make the lift. So if that’s a 100 ton crane but his pick is 50’ from the centerline his actual capacity might only be 35 tons and he’s also over the side of the tracks which might also have a limiting factor.

@earlborchardt4358

3 жыл бұрын

They put load charts in cranes for a reason. I'll wager that the operator didn't know the weight of the pick, which does not matter, because he more than likely didn't read the load chart any way. Who was in charge here? Anybody???

@SteveTheFazeman

3 жыл бұрын

@@pogojava, Not knowing the boat weight and centerline details, it was the placement of the side of his tracks you mentioned that first caught my attention.

@pogojava

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveTheFazeman actually depending on the crane model some have capacity 360 around the crane. But that being said usually the best stability is parallel with the tracks over the front idlers

The description says it all, really - They'd been doing this for years without incident & became complacent. Allowing people to stand in harm's way & operating the crane beyond its capacity: As to then working under the load After the crane had already toppled once?...

I can't believe all those idiots standing under the line of the cranes boom, or the fact that the operators didn't move people out of harms way first.

@Inpreesme

3 жыл бұрын

juzzlookin If you didn’t have those idiots you wouldn’t have this video

@57Jimmy

3 жыл бұрын

I think you just nailed the cause of this mishap! As soon as I saw the crane, boat, truck and the reach (without outriggers) of the crane, physics lesson was about to follow!

@billgordon7583

3 жыл бұрын

Proud owners are watching with their cells. What they weren't told is that the three stooges had been re-incarnated and hired for the task of plopping Sloopy Sally into the briny ocean tossed

I was able to video another boat lift at Watchet Marina yesterday with a much larger crane and better security! I will be uploading that today!

That little boat is too beautiful, a one and only!

all this needed was the Benny Hill theme playing along with it.. unbelieveable

@Mhdogman

3 жыл бұрын

Perfect. I so laughed.

Yeah when a crane and it's load is about to fall the wise thing to do is stay near and act oblivious to the situation.

@gregmann6120

3 жыл бұрын

What crane?...what are you on about?...ere why is that boat shaking around in the air like that?...

The crane tracks should have been aligned mid position between the lift and the drop position for max capacity and safety margin, they are much longer than their width

@riphaven

3 жыл бұрын

was going to say the same thing.

What a lovely little cruiser, hope everything turned out OK....

Very lucky to capture this Mike. Somewhere on the Tube there is a capture where the crane and the boat toppled in to the water.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

Gosh it doesn't bear thinking about does it!

@stephensmith3181

3 жыл бұрын

Have seen that the whole lot ends up at the bottom of the harbour

guys watching dont realize the danger they are in.

@bobsyouruncle1574

Күн бұрын

Darwin award contenders.

Leave me alone and don't tell me how to do my job! I've been doing this for years. Oh...Sorry for the damage to your boat. It's his fault!

Conversation one night in a pub -- 'I gotta get me boat lifted off a truck into the water' "Well me son, I gots a crane" 'If you can do it, I'll hire ya' "How much does she weigh ?" 'Oh about 20 tons, what's yer crane able ta lift ? ' "oh I'd say ...about 20 tons" ' ahh well then, we should be good to go' -- and that was all the professionalism needed

Right place at the right time to capture that Mike, good scoop. Will be interesting to know what caused that to suddenly tip like that and then to recover. Please keep us posted if you hear of any information. Very lucky there were no injuries to anybody, could easily have developed into a serious incident. Thanks again for your efforts in recording all your local events, never been to Watchet, but I feel like I know it quite well, its now on my list of places to visit, you should be paid a retainer by the local tourist office......Graham

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

Many thanks Graham. That is good to hear! As soon as I hear of any conclusions to this event I will post it here.

Wow, that was a heart stopping moment.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

And I expect the crane driver didn't feel comfortable for quite some time afterwards! I went back and had a close look at the boat and crane later. The crane certainly looks a heavy and solid machine. They both can be seen in my video titled A BUSY BANK HOLIDAY SUNDAY AT WATCHET.

Hopefully no one was hurt. Looks like the hull was not seriously damaged. Beautiful boat!

Can't blame the old RB for trying. The crane was simply overloaded at that radius and the driver not smart enough to know his track is lifting. HSE will have a field day on the lack of planning and training.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I do wonder what past experience he had had!

Ouch....Could be expensive.....!! Good scoop for You Mike...

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

Not what I was expecting to see Steve! There is another ship due to enter the water soon after a lot of work.. I wonder how they feel about the situation.

in the Uk a lift like this must have a risk assessment in place before lifting, which must include all details of the lift i.e. weight of load/crane capacity/ date of lift / safety precautions used and more importantly the oppointed person and lift supervisor in charge. clearly none of this has taken place here and they were lucky no one was seriously injured or worse.

@michaelwarwick9930

Жыл бұрын

Well said, Mark. Most people watching this will think, 'Oh, wow, good that it turned out okay.' The crane company should be jailed. Cranes aren't Tonka toys, folks... Sheesh! And did the H&SE prosecute the idiots who 'planned' this lift? I doubt it.

Beautiful boat.. too heavy. Reminds me of a time trying to get off the ground in a overloaded chopper. We were moving camp in the Yukon. The pilot kept jettisoning payload until.. I think we're ok!

What a stunning boat I hope it got a good survey after this episode

Anyone know the make & model of that boat?

And they are walking underneath an unsupported boat, held by a crane that just failed, unbelievable.

The crane operator needs to be fired ! Never lift a load like that over the side ! Hope that boatyard has insurance.

Can't believe professionals can make such a clanger - what a mess -a nd could have been a lot worse - thank you for sharing video Admiral -

@ADMIRALSCORNER

5 жыл бұрын

I have reason to believe that incident has really shook up the arrangements locally and things are done much better since then! Thank Goodness!

The lifting charts on those old cranes were on the seat when it started to lift you were a bit overloaded.

@portnuefflyer

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the pucker meter.

The tracks of the crane should be facing the lift area ie facing the lorry and slightly to the right between the lorry and the dock edge. The crane is at its maximum lift capacity. See this to many times the marinas have small cranes that was bought second hand or years ago. I’ve only seen one marina that a capable crane for doing the job. It’s all about preparation. Should be been done at high tide as when the crane lowers the boat into the water at so a low gravity takes over and if it falls to fast the cranes brakes could not take the strain.

That water looks horrible, can’t imagine putting such a beautiful boat in that swamp pit.

@southerneruk

3 жыл бұрын

Its low tide by the looks of it, looks like sloppy mud

@vynleshmynle7372

3 жыл бұрын

southerneruk ......another reason not to be lifting the boat into the water

@spencerwilton5831

3 жыл бұрын

Vynle Shmynle You are aware that in many harbours boats sit on the mud twice a day, every day, when the tide goes out? There is nothing wrong with lowering a boat onto the mud at low tide when that is where it is destined to end up most of the time!

@vynleshmynle7372

3 жыл бұрын

Spencer Wilton I wasn’t aware actually, I live on the Great Lakes, thanks for the lesson

Crane Operator: "note to self, old wooden boats are MUCH heavier than those new fangled fiberglass boats I'm used to."

@stLebatt

3 жыл бұрын

word

What a beautiful Vessel i’m agreeing with the comment from the certified Operator unfortunately many boat owners only speculate the vessels weight ive owned 17 or 18 of them and sadly all most owners have to go on is the manufacturers specs and dont update the records for additional equipment and water and fuel i personally try to get my haulers scale weights whenever possible and /or use a crane with plenty of capacity or more at a cost of course

So what happened in the end ? Why did you zoom right out at the critical time when the crane restored its position?

Forget all the health and safety, they would have know the Swing load Weight of the crane and the weight of the boat. The crane is obviously man enough to do the lift, however, nowhere near enough counter balance on the crane, for lifting that far out, the crane needed to be closer for a heavier lift . If I was the owner of the boat I would be apocalyptically angry

@singlefin7768

3 жыл бұрын

You obviously know zero about cranes

@roscoe9507

3 жыл бұрын

Single Fin, the further away you lift, your centre of gravity changes, therefore you need a greater counter weight, by lifting closer, you decrease the distance from your centre of gravity, hence why the crane righted itself and lifted the boat with ease once the boat/lift was closer

@singlefin7768

3 жыл бұрын

Ross White crane charts are made up of 2 things stability which you are talking about and structure which just randomly adding counterweights means you might as well throw the charts away. And yes in video he has dropped weight luffed back and taken weight bringing the load back in radius of crane

@singlefin7768

3 жыл бұрын

And just so you know any crane is man enough to do a lift you just add more parts of line to the hook end of the day if the cranes to small it’s to small but can you please tell me what swing load weight of a crane is ?

@roscoe9507

3 жыл бұрын

Single Fin when a tracked crane or machine/excavator has its boom across the tracks and not parallel to the tracks, this is swing load weight, lifting side on with a tracked machine/crane actually decreases the surface contact stability, this is why a crane/machine will always lift a heavier load with the boom running with the tracks ( parallel ) to the tracks not across as he is in this video.

What a beautiful boat and what a shame to damage it like that.

"Let's stand....UNDER THE BOOM!!!!"

@jeffbryan2591

3 жыл бұрын

Yes , everyone gather around .

@stephens7107

3 жыл бұрын

Darwin says, “Its ok.”

@reed7562

2 жыл бұрын

Did somebody say BOOM?

I've seen a thousand of these cranes tip over on u-tube, the operators really need more training!!! I can lift 20,000 lbs and the boat weighs 25,000 lbs, NO PROBLEM.....

What a beautiful boat!

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I bet the incident also dented the owners pride! And of course the crane drivers! I look forward to an eventual successful launch!

Another great trip!😃

There's no mystery here, the center of effort moved forward and the crane doesnt have enough counterbalance or foot print to handle the weight. They were lucky and not destroyed that beautiful boat. KZread is full of cases like this of cranes dropping boats on land or in the water, sometimes upside down. The best way to handle a boat in any decent yard is with a proper Travel Lift

@southjerseysound7340

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you but the tidal range is massive there and a travel lift wont reach most of the time.

@barryroberts2196

6 жыл бұрын

I have never seen such a badly organised lift in my life. Did they even have a lift plan. If they did, it's clear that it wasn't worth the paper it was written on or it was completely ignored. If the HSE ever get to see this they will have a fit, shocking, simple as that.

Boom UP !!!!

Looks like they don’t have weight gauges in England and/or load charts. Sounded like it was an old friction clutch crane too , the kind Noah used on the Ark Project. Next time get an Aussie Crane Crew and get the job done right. For starters we don’t let bystanders inside the work zone. Next thing is knock a section of boom out of the pin jib , looked like he had the head height for it. Better still get a crane with the appropriate lifting capacity for the task.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I and many others are looking forward to seeing the job done properly next time!

@d4c24a

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZoODyZmvfJbYfrw.html

@strietermarinesurvey1415

5 жыл бұрын

First thing I thought of was telling everyone to get back! That didn't happen.

@paulskopic5844

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like an inexperienced rigging crew and operator, and it is lucky that apparently they do not have the US equivalent of OSHA or fines would be in order.

@davidsanders1991

5 жыл бұрын

Too many spectators and lookie loos under the boat. The man in charge should be hanged from the yardarm.

I recognise Lady Lorne, feel sure it was the boat I piloted from Ipswich to Calais in about 1994, when owned by Peter and Emma.

such a beautiful vessel, so sad.

no mystery here! exceeded the cranes capacity its starting to go before he started to slew around..... no mystery just basic physics

What a nice boat! Anybody knows who was the boatbuilder?

He would have been ok if he reduced radius from center of crane to hook about 10ft by sitting broad side to nice boat. I hauled alot of big wood boats some 50ft. One time I lifted one and the engines dropped out of rotten bottom sides. Also most often Boat yard cranes are not inspected or certified nor their operators . Usually a boat mechanic or yard man runs it who is not trained in rigging or cranes. Also we used four slings often with spreader beams cross wise on topsides to prevent hull deck distortions. Note how hull is tilting to bow putting alot more stress on front sling. We used to mark lift points on every boat from builder. I never lifted with spectator s that close or on boat either. Everyone makes errors . Hopefully boat did not break motor mounts or shaft log. Keels on these are very strong. Often engine transmission generator damaged from drop. Cheers from Long Island ,NY a Yank from the states.

Also should have spreader beams across and fore n aft to ensure straps dont slip hence changing centre of gravity

Looks like no wyle gear / weigh cell on the crane ?

That's not water in the harbour it's mud the tide is out therefore there can't have been any intention other than to offload the truck. For those who don't know Watchet the tides are very extreme between high and low tide, at low tide the water is nearly half mile out from the harbour. West Somerset has the smallest District council in the country and is completely broke

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

Sadly true. One of our beach car parks is soon to be closed because the council cant afford to repair it. What a state to be in!

@awuma

5 жыл бұрын

If you keep electing Tories you get Austerity. At least Labour is no longer controlled by neo-liberals.

@harryphillips6060

5 жыл бұрын

nice bit of leg can take my photo anytime

@aussiegaigin

5 жыл бұрын

If they were just unloading truck, the boat could have been lifted and the truck driven away, then the boat lowered onto stands. There would be no reason to slew the jib like that?

If those Straps slip front to back or back to front it changes all the parameters and centre of gravity and can end up slipping the boat out the end !! . Spreaders Fore n Aft n port n starboard ALWAYS !!

@matthew413

5 жыл бұрын

Not always! Sometimes!!! But not always! Decent rig up! Poor lift plan

Operator is a graduate of the "Learn how to, crane operation from home, mail order, 2 week course" !!! They also offer home commercial airline pilot licencing courses.

PS one can block front tips of tracks to increase stability over track ends also. Make a big difference. Also a man at rear counter weight area can warn operator if rear part of track starts to float up indicating crane is overloaded. This prevents catastrophic failure . When bottom rollers lift off tracks don't lift.. If trailer was not there this crane would have flipped over.

The latest news is that that boat has now left Watchet Marina, but I cant discover if it was by sea or road.

"Watchit Marina" was it...?

It cracks me up to suggest that the cause is a mystery. The boat weigth caused the crane to tip. What is their to understand.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

5 жыл бұрын

The mystery was how the experienced crane operator should make such a mistake.

Best line of video..."this looks like it's gonna be expensive

@tomscott1604

3 жыл бұрын

And "at least the crane is on the ground now".😂

No mystery, To much weight for that radius.

From a experienced crane operator this is a very simple accident, the crane operator messed up.

@benmac940

3 жыл бұрын

Or he was given bad information to start with but did everything correct. Either way poorly planned and poorly executed by the looks of it.

Having spent many years building boats at different shops and boat yards, I've never seen this type of crane used at any of them for a launch.

@poche660

3 жыл бұрын

Railways

Were the tracks of the crane facing the wrong way?! Is it more stable the other way?!

I never have operated a crane, so bear with me for my unitiated questioning if they don't teach those crane and heavy lift crews the fundamentals of Technical Mechanics and its extremly useful method of sections. It isn't really Rocket Science setting up the basic equations of momentum and force balances. Of course for that you need to know the mass on the hook and roughly its centre of gravity. But every ship owner should roughly know its light ship mass; maybe the shipyard could provide the data, or one could deduce it if one knew full load displacement and max. deadweight and bunker capacities.

Nice boat, sad.

Why do you think they named it the "Watch It!" Marina?

It may not look like it to some but that’s a very heavy boat the way it’s built.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

You would think there must be some legal requirement for the weight to be declared correctly to the crane operator, and he must have some certification to show the crane can deal safely with that weight.

@DeHaan1021

6 жыл бұрын

Haha. The weight is the displacement of water. There is no such thing as heavy build as it looks. It just have a bigger displacement of water. I think they should not picked it up this way. Better have the boat square to the crane so it reduces flight.

@191246mann1

6 жыл бұрын

when it's out the water it is heavy

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I had a closer look at the boat in question today in the snow. The video should be on line tomorrow.

@someotherdude

6 жыл бұрын

@ Admiral Scorner: It isn't possible to run a marina in that manner, the sheer bureaucracy would sink the business.

AGD Equipment had 3 different crawler cranes working there when the New Marina was being built by Dean&Dyball, i had the pleasure of rigging and then de-rigging all 3 cranes, lovely part of the country

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I notice these days we get different but similar models of crawler cranes there from time to time.The latest one is blue but looks the same!

Put that crowd on back crane for counter weight

@davidsanders1991

5 жыл бұрын

Great answer!

@robertf.sirico6780

3 жыл бұрын

Boom up as much as possible, Walk load toward channel.

Great catch Mike. The first thing they should have done was to tell those people to move. If the crane continued to fall it could have clobbered them, Guess the crane driver had to change his undies. Did you make the 7pm news? Had a laugh with the comments by people around you and when we heard the DMU toot and drive off but you did not swing round to film it.......... that must have been hard for you. Well done. Donald.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

Ha Ha! Yes i was tempted to pan to the passing DMU on the railway but realised it was more important to keep watching and recording what was happening to the boat!

If ya NEVER Stand under it !! then itll NEVER drop on ya !!!

He listened an boomed up good job ole boy

0:50 Boat was already in the air. Why did they pull it any higher? Just few centimeters would be enough to take the truck from beneath....

@chopperhehehe

3 жыл бұрын

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Cant believe I waited till the end.

As soon as I saw the first few minutes I felt the crane was overloaded, why was this allowed to happen? I worked at a marina in my younger days on my dads boat so had a feeling all was not right. I paused the film before the film progressed and saw 'pogojava' comment a day ago, an experienced crane operator, that said it all.

Crane driver myself, and answer given.. thought he appeared to hoist too fast too, adding to problem, plus crane ‘’ square on’’, if he had plant at a diagonal angle , to boat and took load in fast he might had pulled it off, but obviously counter weight on lifting plant too little for job in hand.. double weight if what u think it and set up crane that way,,correct slings too, and do job slowly and safely by experienced people.

Spot the mistake? The crane driver had the tracks facing the wrong way?

@jameswilson8820

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@jimarcher5255

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong way if his intent was to offload the boat onto the wharf. Right way if his intent was to swing and lower the boat into the water. Too much boat for the crane either way.

@sidewaysaction9983

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong if you have no idea on this subject I wouldn't pass comment

if you look close to the bag of the crane to the back track you cane see it lifting from the ground as soon as the lood goes on the crane. so yes more load then the crane cane handel

finish ?????????

The crane operator was trying to get the outboard tred flat on the deck. It would have been helpful to shore it up. I did hear wood cracking when the boat slipped. Hopefully she's not damaged badly.

No outriggers on the crane for stabilization. Customer obviously went with the cheapest bid, good on you!

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I had a look at that boat yesterday. Repairs to the propeller shaft appear to be in progress.

Hi Mike looking at it from my experience of operating cranes, it looks like maybe two things an inexperienced crane operator. because he was reaching too far forward and put the crane off balance over and above the counter weights. He is lucky he wasn't doing it over the water or everything would be down in the bay.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I bet he has not enjoyed many good nights since then!

the controller of lift failed completely..there is ultimately a single point of responsibilty for failure or success period of a pick', that person has the data, criteria, capacities of equipment... and has the go or no go liability of command...oh and that person failed on this pick' in video...

"what did you say that boat weighted again?"

The crane tipped because the treads were perpendicular to the load. As the crane swung towards the water, the situation became worse. The end of the treads facing away from the water should have been pointing halfway between the initial load direction and the final load direction.

Very sad for all involved, and for all those that kept this classic mv in such good condition over decades. Us humans don't seem to be very good at assessing risk; this time a boat, next time a planet.

There is absolutely no "mystery" to this at all. The boat exceeds the rigged capacity of the crane. A side lift without outriggers is one of the least stable lifts, and this is the result of that instability, combined with the weight of the boat.

Well its what happens when working outside the safe lifting radius, which is dangerous, they were lucky to get out of that situation with so little damage. Poor owner must have been frantic.

We all thought that this was incompetance but compared to the Cardiff Marine group who have taken over Watchet who work on an altogether different league of incompetance it seems that the Marina is now for all intents and purposes not fit for purpose and with the near collapse of the Marine group it is expected to shut its doors in Watchet and the other marina's on the Welsh coast under the custody of scoundrel known as Christopher Odling Smee .

The most unforgivable issue with this lift is not knowing the pick weight and realizing they were beyond capacity considering they brought this boat in by truck - which most likely had to come across a scale at some point and most likely even without the scale HAD to know the boat's weight for the road permit. If I were a betting man - that crane's load warnings system is either inoperable and they never fixed it - or it was faulty and they had become used to bypassing the alarms or cutting them out. So many things had to go wrong along the way to get to a place where a load takes control of the lifting crane instead of the normal reverse situation. Lucky they did not kill someone. Wonder what's worth more - the repairs to this man's boat and the loss of insurance or the wages saved by hiring a budget crane operator over the years?

Cranes are NOT "driven", they are operated, and in this case not operated well. This was a bad idea from the beginning and either the weight of the boat was not told correctly to the dock company and or the crane is under rated for the lift. The start of the swing was not smooth, it was a little jerky showing how ill thought out the lift was because the crane was trying to lift a load that was too heavy. The boat owner is lucky that the accident (drop) happened where it did because the crane would have had to "boom out" to get the boat into the water thus making the lift even more faulty. The further away from the crane the more the load weight affects the balance of the crane and it's lifting capacity. If the crane had swung the boat out over the water, it would have probably been dropped in the water with the crane falling down on the boat into the water and both would have been sunk.

@southerneruk

3 жыл бұрын

Very good post, only thing is that its a crawler crane, so it can't "boom out" only telescopic can boom out or in, Crawler cranes only can top down or up, That is the gib being lowered or risen

@randallfrank5682

3 жыл бұрын

@@southerneruk By "boom out" I mean boom down, or lower the boom to a less steep angle so the load is further away from the crane. I have run lots of cranes, hydraulic cranes, draglines, and back hoes (hydraulic excavators).

@southerneruk

3 жыл бұрын

@@randallfrank5682 ok np just used the wrong terminology, I am a rigger top grade, done the 8 year training, 4 deep sea, 4 on terrestrial (old school)

@jameswilson8820

3 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea just not implemented correctly

@stephensmith3181

3 жыл бұрын

I operated a 30ton capacity railway steam breakdown crane for years at 16foot radius with outriggers out and cliped to the rail the lifting capacity was 30 tons but at maximum radius of 40 foot the lifting capacity was 10 tons and that was on level track no superelevation which brought the capacity down ballast at the rear was the boiler and water tanks when working free on the rail on with superelevation track and the jib over the high rail if you jibbed in to a certain radius the counterweight of the boiler would cause the crane to topple backwards

A BOAT Lady Lorne. Tell me where to find a detailed description of this yacht and the project on which it was built .

@Jon-em4kc

3 жыл бұрын

www.billandnancy.com/index.php-option=com_content&view=article&id=140_may-5-2008&catid=51_2008&Itemid=152.html It also used to belong to a drummer named Bob Irwin.

@Jon-em4kc

3 жыл бұрын

It was built in 1961 by Feadship in Holland. Not much more information available.

@photoclass8984

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jon-em4kc Thanks you! this is an interesting project from the last century, the golden age of simple and functional design for life (1961)

@photoclass8984

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jon-em4kc thanks sir!

At 1:23 minutes into this video you can see the the cranes track on the back end of the crane is starting lift off the ground. Also, they should have turned the semi around or lift the boat off from the side (if room allowed) for the aft end of the boat is always the heaviest. This would have keep the most weight closer to the center of the crane. All of that info is Operator Knowledge 101

@ADMIRALSCORNER

5 жыл бұрын

I believe the event has taught them a message!

old PH crawler no LMI then to calculate weight. Could have been much worse. Slings snap on boats alot since they are old often never checked .

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I am glad to say the last time I saw a boat lifted in the marina they were doing it in a much more professional way!

I thought operators would shift the direction of the tracks in order to keep the most support for a lift.

that is amazing to see a crane like that in the UK still working I was told when taking my course that they were band all use of that crane type in the UK I do see why it should be now too we still have them here they just are now used for yard use only now have better easier crane to use out their now yes HSE should be looking into this lucky no one was hurt both the owner and the crane operator and the deck and the owner should have been fined I know I would have been fine and could of had my tricket pulled for me

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

I do wonder how many years old that crane is! I can remember steam powered versions being around when I was a boy!

@dunc1958

6 жыл бұрын

I think the type of crane that is now outlawed are the type which have no powered lowering, ie the load has to be held on the hoist brakes. Many of the type shown (I think its an NCK Ajax ) have hydraulic hoist control and automatic braking the lowering and hoisting are under power control and if power should fail for any reason the brakes are automatically applied. That said, the outcome was very fortunate and no one appears to have been hurt. Very very lucky.

This was painful to watch in so many ways!!!!!!!😱

The boat owner, red seemed to be taking this quite well

Jaws (we’re going to need a bigger crane)

If the truck was side on to the crane this wouldn't have happened the crane is boomed out too far for the weight. Dispite everything I think they did an amazing job of saving this situation from becoming a far worse disaster.

Ive no direct heavy lift experience, but it looks like the crane was at the limit of its capacity at that reach. I wonder if the unit could lift more with the tracks inline with the load? If so could have been much worse. The initial lift could have gone well but toppled as the boat was put over the side of the harbour. Perhaps thats why they went for the lift with tracks side on. Anyways, noone got hurt. A good day. Cheers D

@ADMIRALSCORNER

5 жыл бұрын

I fear the crane driver had a bad day! There have been no problems since!

Very exciting.

@ADMIRALSCORNER

6 жыл бұрын

A neighbour of ours used to drive the crane. I bet he is glad he doesn't now!

That NCK had no chance at that radius. Hope the operator lost his license over this. Pure incompetence. Lucky no one was hurt. Should have used an RT with outriggers.