Ok, THIS case was indeed insane, you can’t make this shit up! 😮

@annebruecks7381

8 ай бұрын

This kid is a psychopath. Wow, 14 years old and he's able to murder someone he supposedly cares about in such a violent manner. I hope he's away for a loooooong time.

@moondancer4660

8 ай бұрын

​@@annebruecks738114... he was a loser so I don't understand why he would want to kill someone even if they are pregnant because it's not as if his life is going anywhere anyway.

@solakinebuchi-carter6317

8 ай бұрын

​@@moondancer4660oo

@solakinebuchi-carter6317

8 ай бұрын

​@@moondancer4660o

@sirvilhelmofyonderland

8 ай бұрын

@@annebruecks7381 he’s a bad kid. He wasn’t born bad. His upbringing made him that way. I blame the parents. Either through abuse, most likely neglect, he became rotten.

Props to the jogger who was like "This is most likely animal blood but it's still sus so I'm calling it in just to be sure". Good man, well done.

@ab.1112

Күн бұрын

Your welcome and I appreciate everyone giving props. I just wanted to suspicious so I took action by informing the police. I’m glad I did so as justice was served

Hope that Joanna woman got charged with making false claims -- she wasted a lot of police time here.

@Raraking4796

8 ай бұрын

I sure hope so!!!

@BILL_BO_jangles

8 ай бұрын

Hopefully so. That's was some real crafty work on her end tho. I wonder who got kidnapped.

@absolutnadia

8 ай бұрын

I knew she was lying. She just wanted attention and put herself in the crime . Her story sounded so made up

@ACogloc

8 ай бұрын

At least she got that John dude caught for kidnapping.

@annebruecks7381

8 ай бұрын

She's basically admitting to cleaning a crime scene and covering up a murder. What an idiot.

How the hell anyone that commits such a heinous crime could ever get parole is appalling. This man could be loose in 11 years. That's insane. He's a monster.

@zacharyb2723

3 ай бұрын

Yep. But he's both a minor and pled guilty - maybe they thought there was a chance he could barely get off if they went to trial, or if they were having trouble getting him charged as an adult.

@Rebekkashahtirmizi

3 ай бұрын

Parole gives people a reason to behave and work towards something. The lack of this caused many prisoners to not care about their actions in prison, which is dangerous to other inmates and the COs.

@DrJuice1

2 ай бұрын

​@@zacharyb2723 The video explains that he was charged and sentenced as an adult. It's a soft sentence.

@DrJuice1

2 ай бұрын

​@@Rebekkashahtirmizi We understand how parole works. It's not relevant to the original comment.

@TomNoles007

2 ай бұрын

​@Rebekkashahtirmizi Rather than a pithy, twatty little comment like the one above, I would like to say thank you for your thoughts on parole. It's an interesting strategy to try and avoid re-offending isn't it. Anyhoo, have a good weekend 👍

This was a friend of mine and when she was murdered it shook me to my core. I was 13, a few weeks away from turning 14 when this happened. It’s still hard to believe this happened to her. She was such a caring and funny person with so much to offer the world. Rest in paradise beautiful. I’ll see you again one day! I’m so happy you finally got Justice! I’m sorry you had to go that way. Please know how loved and missed you are!❤️

@user-qg6fm2nb2y

2 ай бұрын

I haven't finished the video, I'm ready comments while listening but I hope you're ok. ❤ It's hard to see this kind of stuff at that age happen to someone the same age. Stay safe. ❤

@kimwagoner1147

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-qg6fm2nb2ywell said. Such a sad story. 😢. I couldn't imagine losing a friend in such a horrible way and at a young age.

@Fairlight53

2 ай бұрын

Sorry you lost a friend in such a horrible way

@steve-0493

Ай бұрын

Just watched ..and yh I was ready for the them to bust this Lj??then it ended up being her own bf??I'm sorry,for u...for her...and we can Def understand why this would bother u!!I can't fathom it myself,ESPECIALLY with what the inmate revealed!!that poor girl, was already unhappy with her life, and wanted to try to make something, AND wanted to believe in someone she thought was really there for her!!! U just never really know what is going on in someone's head!!no matter how close u are,no matter how happy that person acts,no matter anything!!😑✌️🥃

@Alwayzblessed36

Ай бұрын

The way he killed her was absolutely despicable. How old was she? She looked older than 14 and was LJ even a real person?

yikes, honestly the whole family should be charged in court for lying/withholding crucial information to the investigation…

@KP-ol3tc

8 ай бұрын

Facts, the dad knew the whole time he wasn't at grandma's and then moved him out of the state asap. Once the kid saw his dad lie for him, he prolly told him the truth so dude knew for sure.

@davonjonescardenasoliver6332

8 ай бұрын

🎉😂❤

@thureintun1687

8 ай бұрын

yes, obstruction of justice

@The_Cholo

8 ай бұрын

Its bs they didnt get in trouble.

@D.J.Trump2024MAGA

8 ай бұрын

No one should ever get in trouble for protecting a family member... You should never talk to police no matter what.

Can't understand why the father, the grandmother and Joanna were not charged with providing false information to the police as they did so to clearly obstruct the police investigation.

@Carolyn184

8 ай бұрын

I think that any extra work for these cops would’ve caused blanket mental stress leave in their department🙄. Years of “investigating” Annie’s death (which sounds like the equivalent of about 3 days work) achieved basically nothing - Branching off onto related crimes would’ve possibly raised the bar a little - and that’s the last thing these low functioning clowns would want.

@c1h9a7m7p

8 ай бұрын

I bet, at the very least, they are on the cops’ radar. The sh*t list of the town.

@ledarbyromeo9667

8 ай бұрын

Well, now they're all viral. All it takes is one vigilante nutjob to doxx & find them.

@proudanishnabwe.9582

8 ай бұрын

​@@Carolyn184😊😊😊😊

@hotfishfromsharktale

8 ай бұрын

​@@Carolyn184sounds about right

I have watched a LOT of true crime and I have never seen anyone lie as easily and naturally as this little boy.

@Boobeinstein

6 ай бұрын

He had me fooled. If it wasn't for the dad's terrible lying and the unprompted nosebleed excuse I would have bought his story.

@RachelDoesntknow

6 ай бұрын

@@Boobeinstein wow .. terrifying right??

@MasSehdev

Ай бұрын

Seems like he learned this from his Dad.

@ZenOfMKVLI

Ай бұрын

You should figure out why you are so subconsciously 🧲 to true crime. What are you really trying to figure out? Probably something to do with early childhood and parents

36:37 🤣When he slips into HOT GOSS mode and whispers "Who's Sal?"

@vez3834

Ай бұрын

"OMG! Who's Sal? I gotta get all the deets."

The way his dad lied so nonchalantly for him, specifically his body language and tone. Pro liar right there.

@FinkDaMushyCat

8 ай бұрын

Apple never falls far from the tree as the saying goes... Hell his father got it from grandma apparently.

@JustTryingToYoutube

8 ай бұрын

Knew the dad was a shady dude once he said he went to the bar and told his kid to go to his grandmas because he’s bringing company back if that isn’t a parent red flag idk what is

@BushidoNinja

8 ай бұрын

​@@JustTryingToKZreadso true, and unfortunately it's far to common in today's society. Parents are too busy partying and sleeping around to parent. They rely on the failing schools system and daycare to raise their kids. Fathers need to be fathers. Mothers need to be mothers. This is why I hate alcohol and modern dating culture.

@smoqueed44

8 ай бұрын

@@BushidoNinja Sure it's not because nobody's f*cking you? Sure sounds like it.

@samhadiliya

8 ай бұрын

I know sick family mfs

Child or not this guy shouldn't ever get out. The emotional detachment to do that to a girl who you think is carrying your child is proof that you shouldn't be allowed around innocent people that aren't corrections officers for the rest of your life.

@alastors_radio_qna

8 ай бұрын

Greatest Narrator!

@nanaman

8 ай бұрын

Absolute rubbish and sociopathic behavior by that boy. He’s a victimless liar who has no regard for human life.

@jturtle5318

8 ай бұрын

The pregnancy was an aggravating factor. The leading cause of death in pregnant women is murder, often over unplanned pregnancy that the father/killer doesn't want.

@spyro115

8 ай бұрын

Oh shut up, would you like it if you were an underage kid and had some girl going around telling lies that she was pregnant for you? i bet you wouldn't.

@Valdrex

8 ай бұрын

​@@jturtle5318Yup. Nothing worse than a female forcing a kid on you. Obviously you don't kill her over it, but man talk about ruining a man's life.

It is realy pleasing to see millions of others watching these videos too. It confirms that am not becoming a serial killer or anything

I completely understand that the police have to be as thorough as possible, but how did they ever believe she was killed somewhere else and dumped by the bridge? There's no way she would have bled that much by the water if she was killed at a different location first...I'm glad it was finally solved, and that he's serving his sentence. RIP Annie.

@vez3834

Ай бұрын

That bit had me confused as well. It didn't really make sense why someone would bring a body without concealing it just throwing blood all around. Like, what if they get caught doing all of that? The vehicle would also have blood everywhere. Also the fact that Joanna literally gave away a motive for framing someone she doesn't care about (to get immunity) and only used knowledge that is already publicly available... But I can't blame the cops too much for wanting to investigate a seemingly good lead, especially since she had done a lot of research. Why weren't the phone records taken earlier to confirm the alibis? RIP Annie indeed

absolutely insane that the investigators didn’t immediately try to cross check and verify everything the kid (and his father) was saying by looking at phone records or anything other than just asking his friend and his family. I know it’s easy to look at this from an outside perspective and say they seemed suspicious all along but the boy “randomly” mentioned annie’s nose bleeding on his shoe, said he agreed to cover for HIS GIRLFRIEND sleeping with someone else and everything he said sounded like it was extremely rehearsed.

@Raraking4796

8 ай бұрын

See I agree but I feel like the nose bleed thing could have been believe able. My husband and daughter get random ass nose bleeds all the time and some are messy. What threw me the most was him offering to take the blame about someone else sleeping with his girlfriend….like boy what? That doesn’t make sense. It would be one thing if he was simply pretending to be Annie boyfriend but he was actually her boyfriend. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️😱

@joeygilliland6794

8 ай бұрын

warrants take time.

@ir9567

8 ай бұрын

@@Raraking4796 But have you been trained to be a Detective? No. You're a normal person. It was bad Detective work. The end.

@ir9567

8 ай бұрын

What do you mean the outside perspective? If thats the case then Detectives should invite armchair TrueCrimers to help them with their cases!? It's not OUR job. It's their job to BE suspicious. THEY have the experience, we don't. Plus that woman who was off her head on uppers or Meth or Coke. She sounded like she was lying through her teeth!!! I know what I sound like after a night out and NO you do NOT believe a word I say lol. Plus they caught a lucky crime with John but you could tell he was telling the truth though his house stank of a crime scene. I couldn't believe when they moved away from those lying boys! The Dad was so obvious with the wide stance legs and nonchalant way. It was TOO laidback for your sons good friend who has just been murdered and he had seen her that night. It was sooo rehearsed. In fact the only believable thing was the nosebleed lol! It was shocking. The boy was not upset or startled. And he laid on the cute boy act. Plus his friend was trying to be so 'cool man howdy' that it was obvious he was covering for his friend. I just thought straight off the LJ thing was BS. A gang?? And he's hanging out with you guys? Sleeping with her? Would a mother who is a social worker not 'see the signs that her daughter is hanging out with dealers/gang people'? Urgh. Lol, I thought it was awful Detective work. Like when they did not question Lori about her husband being shot by her brother.

@Raraking4796

8 ай бұрын

@ir9567 no I haven't but I don't think we can say that based on one person's re-telling of the case and partial clips from interviews. You are purely making a assumption. Either way the detectives have to follow every lead otherwise reasonable doubt can be called into questions during the trial. They don't have to be proven innocent by the defense they simply have to prove reasonable doubt. The cops DEFINITELY should have asked more questions about crazy Lori brother shoot her husband. Simply based off the body cam footage that shit didn't even sound like self defense.

the fact he killed her and turned around and said "i dont know why anyone would do this" just shows how much of a psychopath he is.. rip annie 💔💔

@Tahokmusic

8 ай бұрын

Yep

@Ash888Mohd

8 ай бұрын

26:39 how fast can a crackhead talk 😵‍💫

@liamd5645

8 ай бұрын

Why did he turn around and say it? Was he facing the other way?

@JSMCPN

8 ай бұрын

Annie was kind of a whack-job too, though. Faking a pregnancy requires a fair degree of mental derangement. There is no reason to do that other than manipulation, selfishness, deception, and revenge. Nobody in this story was innocent, not even the victim.

@JSMCPN

8 ай бұрын

@@liamd5645 Yes, first he showed one face to his victim, and then he showed a different face to the public.

This story is so frustrating! His whole family should be charged with how they lied and withheld information! So disgusting that he only got 15 years

@davealmighty9638

4 ай бұрын

He got 15 to life. Judges do this for a reason. He was tried as an adult for a crime committed when he was a minor. If thr judge imposed a sentence that could seem excessively harsh, it is likely it could be overturned on appeal. Because the kid plead guilty, he wouldnt be able to appeal the conviction. But he could appeal the sentence. The appeals court would likely deny an appeal, since 15 years isnt unreasonable. But it is 15 years to life. The parole board will not be granting him parole any time soon. The graphic nature of the crime makes him a danger to society. He would be lucky to get out in 50 years.

He probably told her to write the note and say “don’t come looking for me , I don’t want to be found. “ she was excited to leave with her boyfriend. They probably talked about it for a while. It’s definitely premeditated with acknowledgement for potential repercussions, because he meticulously planned what he wanted to happen. He probably made up an elaborate plan to get her to believe they were going to run away. He probably master minded and persuaded her to come with him. As a young in love teenager she was excited to go and probably wasn’t thinking about long term she just wanted to get away from the lies. I see myself in her. It’s crazy. It makes my chest hurt listening to how she lost her life to something like this. She was excited and ready to leave. She wrote the letter prior and it wasn’t rushed, she used proper grammar like commas in appropriate places and her handwriting and spelling was on point. To think you’re running away with your boyfriend and she’s all excited. To meet up with him to get k_lled out of nowhere. It’s heartbreaking. I pray for her soul and her family. He took her future away. I wish she could have had someone to confide in. He is evil. He planned this, played her for an extended time, coerced her to write a letter to save him time of people finding out. If these is true that proves premeditation. The family knew but feared losing him at so young. Also, I might add, I think I missed it but did they ever find out what the First Lady knew really. The woman who was seemingly high came in and made this whole story. How did she know where she died. I guess because she was going off the news report. She had to be on an upper to go in and falsely place yourself at the scene of a crime. She may know more because she added the change her clothes part , was the entire outfit released? She knew blood was involved. Idk I think she knew too much to almost have someone falsely convicted of murder. Maybe she was there and knew Chris and wanted to help him. Then she knew about LJ RIGHT? How when this happened. Then she said her jaw moved in a weird way. And I don’t know. THIS IS ALL ALLEGED OR IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. REST IN PEACE, ANNIE !! My condolences to her loved ones.

@theerealestkiid7441

Күн бұрын

well said 👏🏽 RIP ANNIE ❤ !!

Annie did not deserve any of that. Over a pregnancy rumor. Unbelievable. She thought she was running away with someone she loved. I cannot believe a 14 year old would stomp on a shovel on someone's head. Absolutely disgusting. 14 is so young. To be that evil at such a young age and take someone's life in such a cruel way...

@kevinpurcell4211

8 ай бұрын

Blame the parents, obviously something was going on for him to have enough rage/anger to do something like this.

@rosemadder5547

8 ай бұрын

I thought the same. How can anyone be that brutal, period, but at that age. That’s how he thought he should do it? Long and drawn out with a shovel edge… my god. 14….. poor poor girl. Her last moments must have been so confusing and scary.

@MadScientist267

8 ай бұрын

​@@kevinpurcell4211It's called a lack of upbringing and being raised by a computer and phone. Can't just let kids "figure it out" and not expect shit like this 🤦‍♂️

@stabbi420

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinpurcell4211 the daddy was also quick to be his alibi. he probably got away with a lot of stuff. I know many parents who don't really put in the effort that they should. it's hard to see it happen, but what can we do? my only contribution is not having children and trying to be there for the kids that I know are having a rough home life. some parents are checked out and really do not care what goes on.

@tehfan66

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinpurcell4211 Nope, some people are born this way: they're just evil psychopaths that don't have an "excuse" for these horrendous crimes.

15 to life for murdering your (presumed) pregnant girlfriend with a shovel??? Do we really need to give this kid an out? There’s no correcting this behavior, keep him far away from society

@LeeLeeCRN

4 ай бұрын

Agree!! "Life" is 25yrs I believe so with him being so young he'll be out by 40! Unbelievable 😮

@debrajones4010

4 ай бұрын

@@LeeLeeCRNMan, the system sucks! If this would’ve happened to my child and with the community I live in, he might walk out that prison at 40, but he definitely wouldn’t be walking for long. I know God wants us to forgive and love each other but I would need His comfort and love to bring me through this. Fly high Annie

@michaelwavve

2 ай бұрын

@@Peoplepeaseyour comments on these videos are concerning 😂 someone needs to keep an eye on you

@arborbyrd935

25 күн бұрын

We can get life in prison for aborting an ectopic pregnancy in some states.

@asidik_spaze6098

9 күн бұрын

@@debrajones4010sharia law:😏

I have grew up my entire life so far in Utah and have never heard of this case. It makes me feel so horrible about all the times I ran away from home as a child and left my parents horrified and wondering where I was. Bless this young girls soul…. Such a sad terrible thing to ever happen to anyone. My heart goes out to all of her loved ones.

You guys are so good at telling these stories! A lot of the time I will get confused due to all the people and timelines, but you make it very easy to follow along :^)

I knew it from the begining. As soon as the father said "oh wait we are talking about last saturday, oh no I was coming home at..." he was obviously lying for his son. Disgusting, the whole family is disgusting. They should have been all charged. Shout out to the inmate who came forward and told tell. Let's hope this monster never gets out

@ahdexter7688

8 ай бұрын

You would’ve done the same for your child

@millyvice4423

8 ай бұрын

@@ahdexter7688 no, no I would not cover for a killer.

@unprofound

8 ай бұрын

@@ahdexter7688 No, YOU would do the same for YOUR child.

@lastsaint7778

8 ай бұрын

Right. He had already stated he was thinking about Saturday, so it was too late to use a date mix-up as a reason for changing his story.

@Unbreakable245

8 ай бұрын

​@@millyvice4423you would still love your child He was 14 and made a dumb desicion He deserves a second chance

Dad calls from the Lazy Dog Saloon: “I told you I was gonna have ‘company’ so I asked you to stay at grandma’s.” Father of the Year right here.

@brokenangel3695

8 ай бұрын

I agree 💯%✌🏻🫶

@sharoncoupland

8 ай бұрын

Yes exactly what i thought, i actually grimaced to myself when he said that 😬

@Carolyn184

8 ай бұрын

You got that right. Seems the “company”, unsurprisingly, had no intentions of turning up. Only thing that does make sense. To be covering for his son he must’ve known the heinous thing he’d done - and it seems dad, & good ol’ girl nan for that matter, were ok with it.

@sasskvetch8617

8 ай бұрын

I'll bet the trashy gran and dad told themselves Chris was "justified" in what he did because Annie was a tramp who had basically deserved it. People like that are all about "Rules for thee but not for me".

@kevinarnold8634

8 ай бұрын

Who cares? The grandmother lives a few doors down. With that kind of convenience it makes sense he do so if he is going to have someone over rather than keep the kid around to hear and perhaps accidentally see whatever he and his "company" decide to get up to.

Another awesome job in giving us all the details and make it easy to follow!

How is it that every video I watch truly IS the most twisted case I’ve ever seen.. I know the content is ultra sensitive cases of traumatic situations but EWU is the crew to deliver the goods. Emmy award worthy

How has no one mentioned how crazy it is that John's house showed signs of a gruesome crime and that he ended up confessing to a separate kidnapping?! I know it would've derailed the story a bit but I was curious to hear more about that.

@stephanielloyd4053

8 ай бұрын

Oh I haven't got to that bit yet! This is wild!

@unprofound

8 ай бұрын

I mean, John was clearly BEFUDDLED by the name Annie. There was total sincerity in his responses. He was lost. Yeah, absolutely insane that he was involved in a unrelated kidnapping. I'm unclear if it happened the same night???

@mrdavman13

8 ай бұрын

⁠it’s hilarious the most hardened criminal was the most honest

@994pt4

8 ай бұрын

probably just took out a rival banger. no one really gonna care about that.

@jeanbeans7926

8 ай бұрын

Yes, more violence that was clearly overlooked, wth?

This one really hit close to home. Thank you for covering Annie’s story. I knew her and went to the funeral - it was absolutely packed. She was a great person who touched the hearts of those around her and didn’t deserve what happened. Miss you Annie, RIP

@frankfestus114

8 ай бұрын

Mind the white boy you follow man can kill because of fake pregnancy and many get away with it because of they are Caucasian

@YourLocalGaymer

8 ай бұрын

im so soso so sorry

@thatsonyou6093

8 ай бұрын

Ik so sorry, May she rest in peace

@Jackie-il4hv

8 ай бұрын

This breaks my heart. I felt awful for her and the people that adopted her from The first minute and actually reading a comment from someone that knew her breaks my heart. This poor girl deserved so much more and such a young kid makes me so upset. I’m sorry for your loss.

@hildakane9600

8 ай бұрын

I'm truly sorry for the loss of your friend Annie, absolutely horrific what was done to her, especially from a child. Rest in peace little angel 🙏 Love and respect to you all from Ireland 🇮🇪 ❤

I’m only 10 minutes in an interview just began with her boyfriend. I’m amazed that the father is there and now he’s staring without even blinking. It seems at his son waiting to understand what the heck is going on and I can only imagine my father being there, glaring at me 100% of the time while the officers go at it.

I absolutely love listening to these stories as I drive or like a story before going to bed.

@miiiiikaaaa

Ай бұрын

💀💀💀💀

Explaining away the blood on his shoes was a red flag right from the start. I've noticed that when people volunteer details like this with a clear explanation about where it came from, it's often a sign that they have thought thoroughly about how to avoid suspicion (when in fact it does the complete opposite)

@jarmakey1

8 ай бұрын

Although some people, like my mother, are just oversharers. You could meet her for the first time today and know everything about her by tomorrow.

@SirHumphrey498

8 ай бұрын

You got that insight from EWU video's

@julieoluna8887

8 ай бұрын

And yet it took the authorities 2 years to review his mobile phone data.

@julieoluna8887

8 ай бұрын

​@@SirHumphrey498Not everyone is as clueless as...

@fotografick

8 ай бұрын

@@jarmakey1 yeah, just suspicious, not evidence of anything.

Sounds like these cops were inept. They spent two years investigating red herrings, whilst all along, the phone data of everyone involved not only showed Chris's location at the bridge that night, but that his family were also lying about his alibi. It is well known that phone data is one of the first things to investigate and often a crucial line of enquiry.

@texasirving4815

8 ай бұрын

Yup police shear stupidity … all they had to say was “a Mexican did it”

@tomjones4521

8 ай бұрын

I was just about to write this. I mean what 95 year old detective didn't think about cell data?

@unprofound

8 ай бұрын

I think there was plenty of probable cause (blood on his shoe, regardless of BS story about a nosebleed) to get a warrant for cell records. ALWAYS the intimate partner is the first potential suspect. Seems very sloppy investigation.

@dronepilot260rc

8 ай бұрын

Yep, leave your phone behind if you’re going to go GTA 🎉

@stevenjericho

8 ай бұрын

@@dronepilot260rc Agreed. And use burner phones

Wow. That was a crazy one. Great detective work figuring out all those lies.

The pic the used for spencer caught me off guard I had to laugh lol

I can confirm, as a teacher, girls write their bf's name all over everything. I don't think it always means they are obsessed. It's pretty normal. The other info in the journal about baby etc; however, is an indication of obsession.

@punawelewele

8 ай бұрын

The adjective obsessed is often used to simply mean "very interested."

@serkotsins

8 ай бұрын

@@punawelewele”obsessed” has a extreme/negative connotation to it, the same way “stench” is a more negative connotation of “aroma”

@AndyWitmyer

8 ай бұрын

Heck, when I was a young person, I wrote my girlfriend's names all over everything - it's not always just a girl thing. If you're smitten, you're smitten. I'd be willing to bet, though, that Chris probably never wrote her name out in the same way. He clearly had little fondness for her.

@SUPER_WOLFMOON

8 ай бұрын

@@AndyWitmyer Totally! It's like guys and band names.

@SUPER_WOLFMOON

8 ай бұрын

@@IGcantstopfactsbreh Could be or they're just bored. The really obsessive lack a stable father figure. Saw theirs leave. Desperate trying to find ways to lock in who they think they love. So, so 😢!

Cop: Are you saying you’re 8/10 or 80/100? Felon/addict: it’s the same thing man 😂

@courtneylust

7 ай бұрын

lmao his whole segment had me rolling😭

@1stcal11-b2

5 ай бұрын

Hahaha!

@Gary-And-His-Demons

5 ай бұрын

8/10 has the same value as 80/100 or 0.8 4/5 = 8/10 = 12/15 = 16/20 = 20/25 It's all just higher fractions that equal the same thing, 80%. Apparently that felon/addict knows more about 4th grade math than you do.

@1stcal11-b2

5 ай бұрын

@@Gary-And-His-Demons you're a dork because you know all that, but you don't realize that was his point. Obviously humor is lost on you. Hahahahaha! 😂😂😂😂😂Nerd. Go find your grandmom. Get off KZread! Hahahahahaha!

@courtneylust

5 ай бұрын

@@Gary-And-His-Demons bro what?😭the commenter knows that, that’s why they pointed it out

Watching the first 7 minutes so far, pretty entertaining documentary. thanks.. 👍

Just watching this today (7 months later) so sad. Thank you for EWO. So close to 1M ❤

A 15 year old girl doodling her boyfriends names all over everything isn't something that should be shocking, or a red flag. That's pretty common behavior for younger teen girls. Boyfriends, crushes, or even their favorite hot movie star.

@absolutnadia

8 ай бұрын

I used to do that in middle school with my crush lol

@olliefoxx7165

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's common behavior. Nothing unusual about that at all. I dont know why they thought it was odd.

@frankupham1214

7 ай бұрын

Nah, it's obsessive. There's more to life than your teenage relationship. Finding someone important and obsessing over them are notably different.

@Vomitsack89

7 ай бұрын

I mean I did that until about 5th grade but you're right, everyone is different 🤷 plus she had a rocky up bringing and was desperate for love and family so I can see it

@lorileew2337

7 ай бұрын

​@@frankupham1214NO IT'S NOT

I've only watched 18 minutes so far and this is unrelated to the case but I can't imagine how uncomfortable it would be as a kid to not be able to sleep in my home because my dad was brining over "company". Getting kicked out of the house has to feel awful, your kid isn't just some roommate, they're your kid and they should feel secure in your house.

@joellenlevitre2590

7 ай бұрын

I had the same thought. Something "off" there.

@Solutions3000

3 ай бұрын

Actually, your thought IS "related to the case", perhaps in terms of speaking to that teen's environment.

@MasSehdev

Ай бұрын

Who you become is heavily based on your parents. Treat/teach your kid poorly and they will do the same to others. Clearly, this kid didn't have a good family to provide him an example of how to be healthy. That plays a huge role in why he ended up doing what he did.

@Erikaraquelpink

23 күн бұрын

@@Solutions3000actually 🤓 ☝️

@Crisssy

16 күн бұрын

His Dad is a crap person but parents deserve to have a life too. Nothing wrong with a kid going to Grandmas so a parent can get a break. It’s much better than parents that bring everybody they meet around their kids.

Ive never watched anything on this channel, started the other day and ive now watched 6 in a row!! Subscriber 4 life 👍🏻👍🏻

I love your account. Top quality content 🎉

Sidenote: I watch a lot of these types of video from other content creators and I have to say You have THEE best talking Voice for this type of content! I could listen all day.

@alhammohamed7101

3 ай бұрын

For reall 😂I swear some peoples stories are so good but I can’t listen cuz thier voice is soooo annoying

@eternxl7080

2 ай бұрын

he has “true crime” voice

@rebeccathomas8125

2 ай бұрын

It’s the ai voice they all use lol

@VHStapeworms

2 ай бұрын

@@rebeccathomas8125 Not AI voice, I believe this channel hires an outside voice actor to read their transcripts. If you go back their older videos are still narrated by real people but the voices are far less on tone and professional.

@JohnnyPaulTutaki

Ай бұрын

sidenote? you like a.i? hahaha egg.

How wonderful that it was her mother that actually laid the evidence to catch her killer.

@MyLolle

8 ай бұрын

i didn't catch that part. what did she do? thanks in advance.

@mrmagoozle

8 ай бұрын

@@MyLolleshe called the little psycho to find out if he had seen Annie. This was minutes after Annie’s death and the phone records placed him right there at that bridge. Edit: 10 mins to minutes.

@hannypressley343

8 ай бұрын

@@mrmagoozle the cops were idiots entertaining All These Little Rascals bulshit

@mrmagoozle

8 ай бұрын

@@TinyTinaTeaParty thank you, I thought it might have been more sooner. Comment edited 👍🏽

@gilla2092

8 ай бұрын

@@MyLolle wish more comments were this cordial

It’s sad that this case took so many years to get justice. If the cops would have actually investigated the stories of these two minors from the very beginning then they wouldn’t have been chasing false leads for years.

I’ve now seen a handful of the “Bloody Nose,” “dripped on my shoe,” excuses given by suspects. Are they all in the same chat thread sharing the dumbest excuses to give?! Literally as soon as each one has said it in their interviews the cops immediately know they are guilty.

How is this channel popping out so many consistent A+ stories??? This is easily my favorite true crime channel….. I feel like I’m a expert in interrogation techniques and body language without a degree… Thanks EWU❤

@TheAtomicLich

8 ай бұрын

Same, we do the same, like his palms are up! Red flag!

@lawiwagosho3231

8 ай бұрын

Best crime Chanel

@NooffenceBut_

8 ай бұрын

Remind me not to become your neighbour...but if I do remind me not to make you mad 😅

@erindeberjeois4071

8 ай бұрын

peachiep2734 you are spot on. Phenomenal channel.

@NooffenceBut_

8 ай бұрын

​@@lawiwagosho3231 The coco- chanel

Annie lived near me. I never knew her but a lot of my close friends knew her personally and her death sent shockwaves through the community. The minute I heard her last name said, my blood ran cold. Im so relieved she got justice, but her loss is felt by so many regardless.

@punawelewele

8 ай бұрын

Annie, the 15 yr old slutbag who slept with gangsters and murderers? Yeah, sure, what a loss.

@blakegammon1023

8 ай бұрын

I don’t believe she got justice her family is going to pay tens of thousands of dollars to house and feed the person who killed her it’s terrible that we live in a country where you can kill someone in cold blood and then that family would pay for that killer to live he has no reason and should have no right to live for what he has done

@blakegammon1023

8 ай бұрын

I hope your friends and people are ok it’s terrible that she was stripped away from her community and parents in such a tragic way

@ledarbyromeo9667

8 ай бұрын

You lived near her? Then you'd be around the same area as all these folks that covered up her murder. You're in a town of villainy .

@salemwhite2446

8 ай бұрын

@@ledarbyromeo9667Yep. No argument on my end. This entire state is corrupt to the bones and the minute I’m able to leave I’m going to.

The way a tweaker can tell a story is incredible. Bc you gotta wonder if that girl is telling a true story just switching the characters

Thank you for your hard work and time regarding this video. Your content is always good and informative. However, you did an amazing job presenting the facts of this case.

"8/10? or 80/100?" that cop definitely didn't score 8/10 in math

@jerryhamer

Ай бұрын

John is like that's the same thing! Mike dropped

@Alwayzblessed36

Ай бұрын

They do stuff like that too confuse you

@nicholaszikpi6270

Ай бұрын

Suuuuuurre​@@Alwayzblessed36

@vipersuphere

Ай бұрын

cops intentionally act stupid especially the good ones trying to act dumb.... you and the people liking your comment sure fell for it as well.

@viky_santiisteban

Ай бұрын

​@@vipersuphereExacto, es una forma de crear confianza y comodidad para el acusado... De la misma manera que cuando leen los derechos Miranda como quitándoles importancia para que la personas colaboren con la policía

I love the EWU channels bc y’all don’t just tell the story; you include information from all different professionals. It makes the story a lot more interesting when things are analyzed & broken down by people who know what they’re talking about instead of just commentary from a creator talking about the cases. It is obvious that y’all put a lot of work, research & effort into these videos to make them as informative as possible. Gives an entirely different perspective!! ❤❤

@theressakimbrough2867

8 ай бұрын

Very well said!!!

@yakk13

8 ай бұрын

And the narrator sounds like a real person and knows how to pronounce words correctly.

@Wistful77

8 ай бұрын

​@@yakk13His name is Russell Archey. 👍🏽

@sashavann92

5 ай бұрын

​@@yakk13 Yup, not one of those stupid computer voices or someone talking with an absolutely bizarre cadence to their words

5:23 this question is the best part of the video by far, really good way to show the veiwer a fraction of how heartbroken the mother must have felt when she realised that she couldnt escape from this situation

Love EWU! Best content and definitely BEST voice!!!!

I just started listening to this case and hoping it’s as accurate as it really was. Horribly I assisted on this case. Brings back a lot of sad memories for Annie and the original detective Derek Johnson who was promoted to Sergeant while investigating this case then was murdered in the line of duty shortly after being promoted. Johnson is the first officer interviewing Chris in the small room. RIP Annie and Derek!!

@Langevinhomestead

8 ай бұрын

Are you a cop

@luckilarock7709

8 ай бұрын

You two kids are awful. I hope you never need a cop

@tameflames

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-sz2px8pv3fegdelord

@utefan7718

8 ай бұрын

@@Langevinhomestead retired Sergeant

@FJL36

8 ай бұрын

So whats the verdict on video?

So… somehow she thought admitting to her involvement in covering up a murder would get her off her other charges? Genius.

@vez3834

Ай бұрын

Not the brightest... like imagine going to the police to try and help an investigation, but ONLY if you get immunity. How about just doing it because it's right?

Advertisers are ruining KZread. Can’t even watch five minutes without some ridiculous, stupid, distasteful ad playing.

@aidencarbert3642

2 ай бұрын

Get over it dude, pay for premium if you don’t like it. It’s free content

@themasterofslime4391

2 ай бұрын

​@@aidencarbert3642premium is a bigger scam, that being said, get an adblocker

@RuzeGM

2 ай бұрын

​@@aidencarbert3642But time is not free... There's nothing to do with it, just paying yeah

@mikeypalmice9628

2 ай бұрын

I pay for premium because I travel alot and in rural places or for example on a plane it comes in handy as u can also download the videos ,music, documenteries ,& movies and watch them without a connection idk to me its worth itb

@shhhake

2 ай бұрын

Why do today's ads contain the absolute WORST music known to man... like it's mandatory or no go UGH

Idk, maybe I've just been watchin' too much true crime stuff in my day, but I'm utterly BAFFLED at how shoddy the detective work was on this case!!! How TF did the police not seek the call records of Chris or Spencer? Why TF would they just accept their stories at face value? The nosebleed thing was such an OBVIOUS lie! Like how convenient is it that Chris is sittin' there stone-faced being interrogated for the murder of HIS GIRLFRIEND, and he just so happened to get blood from her on his shoe of all places? Why would he even feel the need to mention that if, ya know, HE DIDN'T KILL HER?! And how about the fact that the cops just ran with that LJ story without ever finding him? The idea that Chris just went along with a story that Annie had sex with some random dude named LJ and potentially impregnated her, and Chris is just totally cool with that? What NORMAL ASS PERSON would be cool with that?! And then that crazy meth head chick that came forward tellin' this bizarre ass bullshit ass story all happily and gleefully about a murder so nonchalantly as if she was talkin' about a funny anecdote that happened at her job last week. How TF could the police even POSSIBLY buy that?! She was OBVIOUSLY lying!!! And then worst of all, you mean to tell me it took TWO WHOLE ASS YEARS for these cops to finally search through the phone records?!?! That shit should've been the **FIRST** step!!!

@navonmyhand7999

5 ай бұрын

Honestly I usually try to avoid looking at an investigation and calling out "the obvious" steps that should have been taken, but this just feels like a series of giant misses. Following the LJ red herring, the nose bleed story not really being pressed harder, hiz feelings on her getting with LJ a supposed 2nd boyfriend, phone records?!! Maybe in 2012 they just hadn't thought of it, but kids still texted a bunch back then how did they not see that and focus on him.

@jeremyfitzpatrick1409

5 ай бұрын

These detectives were terrible. Props to them not giving up, even though they're not particularly good investigators they did manage to gut it out.

@brooker4149

5 ай бұрын

Other cases probably came up. Trust me I'm right outside of Baltimore, people get thrown under the bus quick especially a foster kid girl who was considered fast for her age, runs away a lot, pretending to be pregnant, it's sad but they probably didn't give a fuck about her as a person.

@mimo_7174

5 ай бұрын

unfortunately, what else is new. it seems like its so rare for LE to actually give a f and do their job, that when they do were amazed and have to commend them. i know it's a hard job. but damn it's like every other case I watch, im screaming at LE for mishandling the case in some way. 😮‍💨

@JroFrmDaH

Ай бұрын

Preach ‼️‼️‼️

Thank you for covering this. This was 100% a sad case

It is nice they included the interview with John. I found that his demeanor was sincere, immediately. Even though he is not the freshest guy, he seemed honest. I than knew that Joana was telling BS ließ.

This is absolutely insane, so many terrible people in this story. Right when i heard chris and spencer say they had never seen or met LJ i knew he wasn't a real person and probably made up by one or both of the boys. Idk how they were able to fool the cops for that long with a whole ass made up person

@bentonrp

8 ай бұрын

Me too. I knew that guy might have been fake.

@bensonnick169

8 ай бұрын

​@@bentonrpYou KNEW that guy MIGHT have been fake?!? 😂

@keepitsimple4629

8 ай бұрын

trashbender, investigators call that "the disappearing perpetrator". Criminals try to pull that every time. Nobody had ever actually seen LJ.

@bentonrp

8 ай бұрын

@@bensonnick169 Yeah. I knew that guy was possibly maybe probably potentially a fake guy. Maybe even a made up one. 🙂

@crista9611

8 ай бұрын

Didnt he say that she had talked about LJ in her journals though.? 11:00

Who tries to get back at their husband by FRAMING THEM FOR MURDER?! That was really methed up

@olliefoxx7165

8 ай бұрын

A truly methed up situation

@ririsinterludeee

2 ай бұрын

😂😂absolutely methed up

@yaboyfrresh

2 ай бұрын

Like lady YOU WENT EXTREMELY HARD on that man..

Best true crime content right here

I would never let this young man out of prison, he's just to dangerous to be allowed in public, and even his family should be afraid of him. Thanks for sharing this story and kudos to the wonderful work that these officers do every day!💕

I remember being 12 and my brother 16,and my mom answering the door to the police. We were both very close to her. She didn't even answer to the "good morning mam" of the police officers,she turned and grab my and my brothers necks and just asked: whom did it and what???? She scared the life out of us and the sh/+ out of the police officers. They were there just to ask about a neighbor.... We are now in our 40's and we never ever had any trouble with the authorities. We always knew tgat she will be the first to call police on us if we were asking for trouble. She passed away 12 years ago and we still think 10 times before doing something, what mom would think about it. She was the best and sweetest mother but she also wanted us to be safe and out of trouble

@cornypinkuni9519

7 ай бұрын

That's a good mama ❤

@Flmom15

7 ай бұрын

I unfortunately I found my 14 year old son buying weed carts off of Snapchat & immediately turned it over to a family friend that was a detective. It sucked but it scared & pissed me the fuck off that my son was meeting grown men to buy weed. He didn't get in trouble as the detective kept his name out of it but I believe in accountability & would never lie ESPECIALLY about something as horrifying as murder. 😢. You had a good momma, I'm sorry you lost her. I was a bad kid, my dad a Judge & I can't tell you how many times he turned my ass over to the police. I'm super thankful because as an adult having a child I finally understood why..

@joemazza2583

7 ай бұрын

@@Flmom15ahhh sounds like a straight up kid! Nothing wrong with that

@racheltaylor6420

6 ай бұрын

my mother has always told me and my siblings from day one we better not mess around and screw up because she’ll be the first to report us and hold us accountable and THENNN on top of that we better pay and hope we never make it out of jail because what she’s going to do to us would be so much worse than anything we could imagine the officers would do. I’m way more scared of my mom and how my actions affect her than i am detectives and she raised me to be like that. i won’t lie or do awful things especially legally becasue i’m afraid she’ll find out and send me back to where i can from smh

@bryguy87

5 ай бұрын

What a good, loving Mother. She brought you guys up right. They don’t make women like that anymore. You and your brother are very lucky to have a mama bear like that. ❤️

Grandma & dad should’ve been charged with accessory & got time! Also 2 years to finally investigate phone records of the main players in the case, that’s terrible, that’s like one of the first things you should do!

@katrinawhisken

8 ай бұрын

Wtf

OH MY GOSH! YOU GUYS !!! How did I miss this Story??!! This was a good one Y’all!! I mean (per usual) of course but this one really made my jaw drop lol and I got a little less than half to watch still Edit: VERY INTERESTING STORY! Very Well Done Y’all! I’m repeating myself but man this one made my jaw drop 4 or 5 times so I’m done now! Whew! Thanks y’all ❤

Spoilers but the fact that he said his friend was sleeping when her nose started bleeding but then his friend said he SAW it happen is what tipped me off. The police didn't catch that? They didn't think to check the phone records?? It took them TWO YEARS to think of that??? Crazy

RIP Annie, cant believe his family lied for him as they did. Absolutely disgusting.

@FatRescueSwimmer04

8 ай бұрын

That's sad if your family wouldn't lie for you if you committed murder... it's just one little murder anyways not like he serial killed yet.

@lairairis3135

8 ай бұрын

​@@FatRescueSwimmer04See here folks, this is a future felon.

@D.J.Trump2024MAGA

8 ай бұрын

The sad thing is there are people that would NOT lie to protect a family member..

@filipe.sm31

8 ай бұрын

​@jessissac9320 if my family member murdered someone, why would I defend him? It's my duty to let this person get caught. This bs "loyalty" thing that you're advocating for is what makes criminals thrive and kill again

@filipe.sm31

8 ай бұрын

​@@D.J.Trump2024MAGA if it was a stolen candy I'd lie to the police bc it isn't such a serious crime, but MURDER? Are you kidding me?

It is realy pleasing to see millions of others watching these videos too. It confirms that am not becoming a serial killer or anything 😅

@Cesar-pq2ck

2 ай бұрын

Not at all. For me it’s the curiosity of trying to understand how a person can become a killer. My brain isn’t able to compute that; and at such a young age! I’m 47 and I haven’t hurt anyone, I get nervous just watching people fight on video clips!

@asiankneegrow3110

Ай бұрын

@@Cesar-pq2ck go watch his recent video. 19 year old kid. That pissed me off because he was bragging about it.

That they found a whole other crime in all of this blows my mind.

I love out of nowhere the interviewer had to whisper " who's sal?" Is so funny for not reason, these types of things I find funny definitely make me believe I'm on the spectrum

The police could have solved that case so much sooner if they had actually taken the right steps and checked phone evidence immediately. And a search warrant of chris' house would reveal things immediately as well. They just botched that whole investigation.

@backtoearth1983

8 ай бұрын

They must have collected the trash with the notes in the initial investigation.. they had rock solid evidence for two years and just didn't look at it.

@TheAnnoyingBoss

5 ай бұрын

Okay but if they did that would they have had that credit card theif admitting to covering up a murder with totally different guys thinking it was the same woman?

@Cuckoo_Lane

3 ай бұрын

Interesting how the ‘delay’ caused trials as adults, though.

How did they miss so much evidence for so long? It's so weird to me that they didn't check some of those phone records way ahead of time.

@XShadowAngel

8 ай бұрын

Phone records take awhile. Crime shows make all this stuff look instant, but it often takes time for warrants to go through, records to be compiled by the providers, all the paperwork to go through, etc.

@mattkaustickomments

8 ай бұрын

They don’t take 2 years! These cops totally gave up on the shaky kid and chose to believe a tweaker instead of following multiple lines of questioning and evaluating evidence. The kid acted totally suss. The only halfway believable person was the friend. Still ZERO surprise at the motive and the perp.

@XShadowAngel

8 ай бұрын

@@mattkaustickomments Everything's easier to armchair quarterback in hindsight.

@ggramsamy

8 ай бұрын

@@mattkaustickomments exactly my thoughts!

@mattkaustickomments

8 ай бұрын

@@XShadowAngel This is true. But in this case not immediately subpoenaing the phone companies to find out who had the blocked numbers was also central to the wild goose chase tangent they went on is just dumb. And THAT should not have taken 2 years. They would have had a lot more answers earlier and could have re-focused their investigation if they had studied the cell phones right away.

Just amazing that Joanna can remember every conversation & actions😂😂

Yo..it's like 3:17 in the a.m. and I was falling asleep with my phone in my hands. Lol..😏 Dude,the volume is turned way up,I'm sorta nodding off,slipping away into sleep..and I hear "911 what's the address to your emergency"?? 😲 Oh my gosh,my heart nearly dropped out of my butt..😳 Jeeze!! That just scared me so bad! Lol..😆 my adrenaline is pumping and my heart is still pounding!! Yikes..😬 Bhahaha..🤣

This one was pretty obvious even on the first questioning. I cant believe cops took two years to put the pieces together

@puppermcghee

8 ай бұрын

every time he said the cops/detectives were "working relentlessly" I think.. nah

@Edmitsu

8 ай бұрын

Bruh I’ve seen cops leave a handcuffed person in their car on train tracks as a train was coming and seen cops gun a man down cause they got the address wrong at 2am. I’m not surprised anymore.

@sirvilhelmofyonderland

8 ай бұрын

I’m not a cop lover, but they are just men. Cops aren’t perfect, we agree, but they aren’t all knowing deities. Mistakes happen, but when they happen in life and death situations, that’s tragic.

@MadScientist267

8 ай бұрын

Cops aren't particularly smart or efficient, they just never let go.

@Pebbles803

8 ай бұрын

It's not easy to gather evidence that leads to conviction.

This is such a disturbing case. What a vile little punk to do something so heinous. I can’t even imagine how devastating it was for her parents to know the details.

@teastrainer3604

8 ай бұрын

His father and his grandmother obstructed the investigation, even though Chris was a sexually active, violent murderer at 14. The older I get, the more I believe there's a genetic factor at work in behavior like his.

@the.seagull.35

7 ай бұрын

I can't even fathom how someone could do this to another human being, especially someone close. Its horrifying.

That's just sick... The first idea that comes to his mind after hearing his girlfriend is pregnant, is to murder her? And unnecessarily brutally even? This boy is deeply disturbed and should be locked away forever.

Bro, your narration is much better than the actual footage,

It took them 2 years to actually test if there was any blood from a nose bleed in the friends house? Also, with the killers weird behavior during his initial interrogation, they didn’t think to check his cell phone location the night of the murder? Seems like the cops fumbled quite a bit, but then again they were lead down the John/LJ path, but still, it took them 2 years?

@frankiephenomanal

8 ай бұрын

Well said, agree 💯

@frankiephenomanal

8 ай бұрын

That crazy Joanna Franklin bitch through them off also, but they should have checked chris' phone records

@bluenymph2887

8 ай бұрын

This stuff threw me off as well. Like, why not investigate everything? Not to mention them not seeing Chris' plans he had thrown in the trash until 2 years later? Wth were they doing?

@backtoearth1983

8 ай бұрын

@@bluenymph2887 That's the thing, they had to have recovered those in the initial investigation.. they had those notes in evidence for two years

@abrielle13

8 ай бұрын

Most people would look past a 14 year old child and look into what seems more likely. However, they still should have checked it out.

So sad. Annie had dreams of creating her own stable family. Meanwhile Chris was so fearful of that idea that he killed her for it. Very tragic.

@heyitssarah7545

8 ай бұрын

Right? He should have just left her. I don’t blame him for being freaked out, but to kill her? Holy crap

@ninetailedfox579121

8 ай бұрын

​@@heyitssarah7545He didn't even have to leave her, he could have just talked to her.

@heyitssarah7545

8 ай бұрын

@@ninetailedfox579121 Yeah. And demanded a pregnancy test. I just can’t wrap my mind around how he got to “I don’t want to be a father, so I guess murder is the only solution.” Absolutely psychopathic.

@JSMCPN

8 ай бұрын

She was far from innocent. People who have dreams shouldn't cause nightmares for others.

@JSMCPN

8 ай бұрын

@@heyitssarah7545 He couldn't just leave her. She would follow him and make the court force him to cut her a monthly paycheck for the next 20 years.

It blows my mind that investigators didn't check the phone records way earlier in a case that involved a mysterious LJ, multiple mentions of blocked calls and more of that jazz. I get it: the number on its own was relatively useless, and it no doubt required cross-referencing with Chris' location to understand that the two cell phones had been in the same location that night, but even without that, all the talk of a mysterious LJ almost nobody has ever seen and which hasn't made a resurgence despite the victim supposedly having been close to this person to the point of dating them is weird as HELL. People move around in circles, so even if they didn't share the same school or whatever, there should have been some obvious means by which they the victim met LJ, or about the stuff these other guys could offer to help track him down. And all that still ignores the outright usefulness of the call log: it serves as a perfect time keeping device that can be used to prove or disprove the stories suspects are telling them.

And his dad doesn't seem to be a responsible parent. He obviously was a troubled boy and committed a gruesome crime. He wasn't sentenced harsh enough. These types of violent crimes should ALWAYS be life in prison with no parole.

@outlawJosieFox

8 ай бұрын

He is a minor.

@ashleysmith5001

8 ай бұрын

Or death considering it was a child! I have a daughter who just turned 7. She is never out of my sight. I also taught her if someone ever tried to kidnap her. She knows to bite enough to break skin, scratch enough to to make them bleed, pull their hair, kick and scream and if they cover her mouth bite their hand. I also told her to if necessary leave something behind, she always wears bracelets or a hair tie, and leave some of her hair on it. She may be little for her age, but she is strong.

@ashleysmith5001

8 ай бұрын

@@outlawJosieFox They have put minors in prison for life and the death penalty

@user-sz2px8pv3f

8 ай бұрын

No crimes are punished properly in the United States of America. They love their criminals

@trayne8814

8 ай бұрын

@@ashleysmith5001the us has never put any minor on death row 🤦🏻‍♀️ u are an ignorant fk .. minors don’t get life without parole or death penalty so maybe u need to learn the laws before spewing nonsense

I thought the first thing the police would do is check cell records to confirm the information they were given by all parties , these police dont seem very smart sometimes. What a waste of time and pain for the victims family. Rip Annie 😢😢

@mvv700

8 ай бұрын

It's impossible to do this since mostly you need a warrant to confirm cell records. So it's not like police can just go about and check everyone's location to confirm they're telling the truth. You have to have a solid reason for suspicion to do so first, and run that through court. There's been some exceptions for this but it's not always as easy and could possibly jeopardize an investigation if they gather evidence unlawfully. Edit: Need to clarify that some laws regarding this were changed a couple years back. And it seems to be easier now with looser rules. I'm not sure how it works per different states tho. But generally, there can be all sorts of reasons why they're not allowed to either search an area, or obtain certain records/information.

@46:00 I’m like “what’s downr is they can beat the case if nobody talks or fold in the interrogation room” not even 5 full seconds later😂

I watch a lot of these videos especially on this channel, but this case was the first time in a while I was genuinely so shocked at not only the plot twists and mist direction that occurred, but the way the victim died. How tf do you just stomp on someone’s face and not feel a thing and live your life after that??? He should be in prison the rest of his life!!! The fact that his first thoughts after committing his own gf’s murder, being that he “won’t get caught” just shows how much he lacks empathy and is def a psychopath

What horrible police work. If they had simply checked his phone records from the beginning they could have solved the case as soon as it started.

@persephoneperry776

8 ай бұрын

Didn't care because she was adopted

@jamesoshea580

8 ай бұрын

​@persephoneperry776 where'd you get that from?

@minxironwood

8 ай бұрын

​@@persephoneperry776wtf XD, that's such a wild take lol. The likely answer is that it takes alot of time and resources to get phone company's to comply with a request, and they didn't see the point when both kids had already been cleared with what the police thought at the time was a solid alibi.

@MaTTheWish

8 ай бұрын

​@@minxironwood adopted theory is wack. But they should have checked the phone records ASAP. shouldn't have taken the word of two kids. It was a mistake.

@engineeringpartnersinc2879

8 ай бұрын

@@minxironwood nah. Chris ditched school that day. These detectives are fkn morons. Even without the cell phone, Chris should’ve been number one suspect until all his whereabouts were verified.

Can’t believe the police didn’t instantly pull location data on the bf cell. The moment he mentions her blood on his shoe he is my prime suspect.

@saintlynnie4037

Ай бұрын

Right? Trash investigators.

I couldn't sleep everyday without hearing your voice it's addiction !

How did these investigators just write chris off as a suspect and didnt bother to fact check his alibi and story until 2 YEARS LATER, just scary that a 14 y/o can do something like this.

It was pretty obvious very early on that "LJ" was imaginary. Rest in peace 🕊️, Annie. 💔 I feel awful for her adoptive parents, who bonded to her during foster care and loved her enough to become her family. She deserved a chance, a future. Those guys are so disgusting for this. 🤬

@katamine11

8 ай бұрын

Right? Didn’t even give the “guy” a proper name lmao. Giving a shady mystery man figure a two initial name is literally one of the oldest tropes in the book 🤦‍♀️ and they fell for it 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

@JoaoPedro-eq3hj

8 ай бұрын

Wasnt LJ an account created by Annie initially though?

@jaybay5538

8 ай бұрын

Trashy people like this exist in a lot of places and sadly their votes count just as much as yours and mine. It always infuriates me when people who lie for othere or make false rape claims dont get punished too often.

@jaybay5538

8 ай бұрын

46:30 You are correct.

@placeholdermcgavinport5343

8 ай бұрын

Chris saying the part about annie's nosebleed was so guilty. It was obvious he did it at that point.

Joanna's story had so much detail in a specific order that it was completely unbelievable.

@saintlynnie4037

Ай бұрын

I think she was talking about the other crime that occurred, but thought it was Annie

While I was watching Chris and his friend talk about phone calls, my first thought was, "OK, so they will next check their call records and the locations of their phones when those calls were made." Nothing of that sort followed, and instead they went off on a weird path with "looking for LJ" and that drug addict's bizarre story. I thought they didn't check the call records and the locations because that information was not available with the telephone company, or something. *Two years later*, they identify the real murderer and find incriminating evidence for trial by... **checking the call records and phone locations**. smh 🤦

I've been watching these videos tha last 2 weeks literally sleeping while hearing these! I can't believe this is the world that we live today... oh my God...

Who else knew that Joanna Franklin was making up her stroy? She just wasn't believible and you don't bleed from your ears from getting slammed into a wall. In addition, Chris was way too stressed in that interview. Then he throws a nose bleed out there. Finally, if they couldn't find LJ that Chris and Spencer were both pointing to, then he probably didn't exist. I don't think I'm the only one watching that figured out those things.

@notever_everytime5074

8 ай бұрын

Nor do you bleed from the eyeballs because you got smacked upside the head. She was obviously tweeking out her mind, and pissed at John.

@jeezthatscocky3144

8 ай бұрын

She’s an addict for sure. And most addicts are full of shit. Usually because they’re in their own world due to drugs.

@Tradramen

8 ай бұрын

Joanna is literally just a tweaker lol

@sriracha9729

8 ай бұрын

I knew it instantly because I was expecting it. In the beginning of the video, they mentioned someone is going to falsely frame someone as a revenge and she was the first one to do so in the video.

@nando7688

8 ай бұрын

Bleeding from ears didn't make sense but she might got confused if there was much blood .. however she did a great job getting lazy police put their hands on another crime ..

At only 14 yrs Chris murders his 'girlfriend' and in a way that's close up and personal and feels nothing....that's being a real psychopath , R.I.P. Annie

I love the narrators use of the word investigation so freely. Half the time hes saying that I just replace it with the word look. Makes me feel like I’m going to launch an investigation every time I move to find something in my house. I’m gonna go investigate the fridge and see what I can come up with. No it’s called I’m gunna go look in the fridge for something I want to eat. Kind of creates more emphasis on the fact that these investigators kind of struggled with this one.

@index3876

5 ай бұрын

I got news for ya: investigating is what people call it when detectives _look_ for clues...

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