Love the vintage peashooter! Sounds very crisp and direct

I like the soft tone of the ptrumpet

Aside from the valve issues I’d say the Buescher was the most dynamic sounding and I really like the look of it too.

Berp bio oil helps solve the issue with the sticky and noisy valves on the ptrumpet

I can definitely hear a difference in the sound, I don't really know how to describe it other than saying it sounds like it is made of plastic.

It would be interesting to hear a 12-year old student playing theese two instruments. As we already discussed: Trent could use a water pipe and it will still sound accepable.

No comparison. Brass will win every time.

Two years ago I was going to Europe for a month for work, and there was a weight limit on my luggage. So I bought a pTrumpet to stuff in my carry-on. The valves were awful. I got home a day too late to return it to Amazon. Afterward, I used to keep it in my car and play lip slurs at lunch time. It’s useless for anything else, other than maybe a cheap bugle.

The pTrumpet is definitely mellow compared to the brass horn. Also my experience with the stuck valves on the plastichorn, it's better not to lubricate them.

Remember when Alison Balsom said the valves of the ptrumpet are good? 😂

The brass Buescher sounds bright, as if the molecules in the metal are resonating with the vibrations set up by the buzzing lips. Plastic does not resonate, does it? Just an inert tube.

I've had a couple of the trombas (flugel and C trumpet) and they worked well and sounded nice, but once you finish a note there's no "ringing" afterwards, just a dead stop. Still, for the money they were a good way to play around until I was serious about getting a good horn.

Plastic trumpets could be fun if the valves didn’t always stick. I had one I tossed in the backseat of my car so I had something to play while my wife shopped at the market. When the valves didn’t stick I had fun with it because it was light in weight. Can’t believe a fabricator hasn’t found a way to allow them to function properly. The vintage option is the only way to go. Thx Trent.

Is that the original ptrumpet or the 2.0? I've read and heard that the valves were improved on the 2.0 version. I also had come across a video see on youtube where the guy found some special kind of valve oil that didn't gum up the plastic.

Would a possible chemical reaction between the valve material and the lubricant damage the valves?

@austincustom

4 жыл бұрын

highly doubtful. The tromba feels tolerable with oil. I just think these valves are not so great.

The information booklet (available online) for the pTrumpet mentions that the valves should never be oiled. Could that have had a detrimental effect?

@austincustom

4 жыл бұрын

perhaps but that's ridiculous IMO as someone who owns a shop.

@austincustom

4 жыл бұрын

it's still obvious it's a pretty awful instrument

@kevinlaster9447

4 жыл бұрын

Trent Austin absolutely. Love the vids!

No Contest: Buescher brass Wins!!!

Most of the comparisons that you do, Trent, end up being somewhat subjective over which trumpet is best. They both sound good, but one may just have the edge in certain circumstances, even though one may have cost many times more than the other. However this time it was night and day, even a player with your skills failed to make the pTrumpet shine. There was no comparison. The Buescher sounded like a proper trumpet whereas the pTrumpet sounded like, well, an inferior plastic imitation of a trumpet. If you can't get one to sound good, there's little hope for the rest of the world.

To be honest Trent, I think the player has won over both trumpets, except the valves. I listened to many trumpet players that sounded not as good also regarding the intonation, even they've played ten times higher priced trumpets. I regard it as more "worthfull", to point out the difference between cheap stuff and expensive ones - even if it might need quite a lot of experience to access to these qualities. But nevertheless, it would set up the minds to see and target the goals.

The pea shooter has a fuller ringing bright sound. The pTrumpet is thin and dull sound. Brass is elemental metals. Plastic is just distilled dinosaur jucies.

@austincustom

4 жыл бұрын

Dinosaur juice - that's a good one!

Well, even if the valves worked the P-Trumpet sounds total shite. I don't know why parents on a budget etc. don't go looking for an Ambassador or something made by a good company. I have a real old Olds Ambassador, which is all dinged up and has a drooping bell, but it plays so sweet that I often practice on it rather than on my (almost) brand new Schilke B5 (I think).

@austincustom

4 жыл бұрын

The Elkhart plays rings around an Ambassador IMO.

Great comparison, but as with my other trumpeter colleagues the Elkhart wins. I like to have my Tromba around just for the fun of it and to even do comparisons for my beginning brass students. Plastic will never win against metal, especially against that Elkhart.

@austincustom

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening! The vintage peashooters are fun horns!

I hear so many players saying the Ptrumpet is amazing but in my opinion I’ve seen horns that have been through hell sound better than some plastic 🙄

I do not like the ptrumpet at all. I also have an Allora plastic trumpet (with metal valves like a tromba) that I like very much. It works well and blows nicely and sounds much better than the ptrumpet. My grandchildren can play either plastic trumpet without me worrying about it. I would not perform with either one. My brass instruments sound better.

There is no comparison.... but let’s not totally rip the ptrumpet. It is good for my three year old daughter and it can be thrown around somewhat. Requires no special packaging when on travel.

@austincustom

4 жыл бұрын

I mentioned that.

@francescomaimone8865

4 жыл бұрын

You definitely did Trent. Was just a general comment.... Like most, I too am frustrated by the ptrumpet. To me, the wacky intonation drives me crazy. I have to remind myself that it does have a ‘place’ though. Thanks for all that you do for the trumpet community. I enjoy your videos!