A Bannockburn Story You Don't Hear... Sir Marmeduke de Thweng
One of a series of stories from Scottish history and The Battle of Bannockburn, between the Scots and English, that are often ignored or forgotten. Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey, takes you to another Bannockburn to tell you the story of Sir Marmeduke de Thweng
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Another great story, well told. We appreciate these bits of Scottish history tying to places outside of Scotland. I was raised in Ayrshire Scotland, but I lived in Kenmore, Washington state most of my adult life. We moved to the Skagit Valley when I retired, which is where we live now.
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Enjoy Jimi, and keep the peat burning
About 3 minutes in, I looked at the date. Is this April 1st? Marmeduke Thweng? Bannockburn on the other side of the world? Then I looked it up. Brilliant story.
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I'm so happy you came to New Zealand. I've lived in Dunedin, and roamed all around that area. Great to have you here.
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...and you didn't come to my show last week?
@markmanc-zw3td
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Lovely area visited relatives in Dunedin a few years back, but was quietly told I wasn't welcome in one pub because I was English, but eventually won them round when I advised them my friends in my local are Scots,English,Polish,Irish & African & my own heritage is all bits of the British Isles. Anyway overall I found the people as great as the scenery.
Wonderful! The relationships of the middle age aristocracy and monarchies were intriguingly more intertwined than a simple them and us, but I won't parrot on!
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Жыл бұрын
Baboom tsk!
😂 got off Scot free!!! I really do love your stories Bruce, thanks again for the great video...
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Glad you like them!
There is a city in Tasmania called Glenorchy. So many Scottish names here, Ben Lomond, Perth, Campbell Town, and a few others I've mentioned in previous vids 😀. See ya on the 14th 😊
@janinecopperwheat6379
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I am looking forward too
@leandabee
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@@janinecopperwheat6379 🙋🏼♀️
Speaking of English knights being taken captive, I would love to hear your take on the 1388 battle of Otterburn and the two VERY different ballads that were inspired by it.
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Жыл бұрын
Maybe some day soon
Loved these new facts! I read About sir Marmaduke Thweng in Robert Low’s novel ‘The Lion Rampant’. IT shows hoe complex characters, familie Ties and loyalties were in middle age conflicts. Keep telling your stories about real people of yore, you excell in iT!
Hell yeah! Another great video Bruce!!! I love when you put out new videos, can't wait for the next 1!!! 🇺🇸🏴
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Жыл бұрын
Yay
I grew up near Guisborough and worked in Hartlepool where the De-Brus family had lands. You should take a trip down to Teesside Bruce, not as gorgeous as New Zealand but Guisborough priory is certanly worth a visit and it highlights the service the De-Brus's gave to the crown of England for context.
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Жыл бұрын
Maybe one day
An idea for a story for you Bruce. Arthur Thomas was a Scotsman explorer who was commissioned to explore and open up the interior of the State of Parana Brazil and in turn founded the cities of Londrina and Maringa in the north of the State in 1937. He named the city of Londrina (little London) As far as I know it's the only city in Parana that also has an Irish pub. And possibly in all Brazil.
This guy has a really interesting story. I'm glad you covered him because he deserves to be remembered, it adds nuance to those wars that often gets missed. Thweng may have well been released or escaped before 1299 since his crest appears on the roll of Falkirk 1298,
Thanks for another well told bit of history. These stories that focus on participants in the greater events show an aspect of the struggles that often is overlooked. Sir Marmeduke’s relationship to the Bruces highlights the complexity of ties that often occur in border areas. I can only imagine that, for some participants, the possibility of facing a relative in combat must have created added stress.
For anyone wondering what Bruce says in Gaelic at the end of all his videos, it's an old Gaelic saying that roughly translates to: "Don't forget to subscribe and smash the like button."
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@Albanach-je1nk
Жыл бұрын
Your translation is not what I was taught,but I am Bruce will like it.
Excellent story. And I am glad your tour in the southern hemisphere is going well.
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Thank you!
Thank you for your inspirational and informative stories. I was compelled to research the history of my own ancestors and was surprised to find out we date back to the early Earls of Argyle and splitting off to America in the 17th century. Thank you for your teachings.
"From Yorkshire, in a Norman Knighty sort of way"! which explains one of the reasons why i love this post.
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What fascinated us was passing places with Scottish names - next to Welsh place names! Don’t forget the Welsh! - and the sheep dogs…
This is one of, if not, my favorite of the bits of history you've shared, Bruce, and a first rate telling, as always.
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Ah thanks Stuart
Great story well told. Including the dreadful pun at the end!
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Love your stories❤
Lovely to hear of the more personal stories you tell. Glad your tour is going well.
Love this Chanel keep the awesome content coming my alba gu brath brother 🏴
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Thanks
Happy days!!
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Always!
Must be a sair fecht for you, putting up with all that sunny warm weather at this time of year. 😎
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Nightmare eh?😜
Have you ever considered doing a bit of magnet fishing off Stirling bridge to see if any old English 'trinkets' might be found to adorn your walls?
Love your Saturday morning stories.Something to look forward to.Hope your storied are well received down under.
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Жыл бұрын
They are!
Couple of years ago I was at Duart Castle on Mull. I met with the Ian McClean who told me that the McVay's were Pikemen at Bannockburn. He told me that Pikemen carried the day. I don't know if it is true but I enjoyed the story.
Love your videos!
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Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing this...fascinating stuff...E...
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My pleasure!
Best of story Bruce my friend afternoon bud
That was wonderful Bruce and you were right, I hadn't heard it before. Thank You.
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You're very welcome
Fantastic video!!!
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Thanks. The next upload is another Bannockburn story
He had 3 sons but the first died childless while the other 2 entered the clergy. His eldest daughter Lucia married the Northumbrian Baron Robert of Lumley. They named their son Marmaduke and adopted the Thweng coat of arms. Marmaduke's parrots are still flown by the Earl of Scarborough today.
Fascinating! And made even more enjoyable by the top quality humour :)
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Good story. Thanks.
Great wee story Bruce , yer 👀 well my man 🥃
That's a great story and good to see you in Central Otago. Hope your tour is going well.
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It is!
I really enjoy your stories, you tell them so well. I wish you were some of my History Professors. I would have hung on every word.
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Wow, thank you!
I’ve been there!! I’m so excited to see this first video from your recent NZ tour. I’m born and raised kiwi 😁
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Yay
Fabulous story. ❤ Looks like you're having perfect weather there.
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It was beautiful
That was a good story. Thank you.
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Glad you enjoyed it!
1 of 100 knights who made a "heroic escape" at the battle of Stirling Bridge .
Another reminder of what family affairs these medieval wars were.
Beautiful place.
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Yes it was!
Ya got me! I did _not_ see that twisty end coming. Well punned!
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I am Dutch and I am binging all your videos after discovering your channel. Great content. And I even understand most of the jokes... I think.😅
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Yay
Brilliant! If you can at all, fit in Stewart Island,,, mental! I played there Hogmanay 2009....
I confess I dont know about it at all, though i have known the name all my life. Looking forward to the story
Great story 😊 ☮️❤️🌹🦋🕯️
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Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🤗
Nice 👍
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9 ай бұрын
Thanks ✌
My GGGGR John MACDONALD, from island of Eigg. Then immigrated to PICTOU, NOVA SCOTIA 1780.. I have all the ancestry books from NS.
Tapadh leat Bruce , another great story. Must have been a trill for you .
Great video and I have to chuckle at the memory of Spike Milligan when he trolled Life On Earth. “Here in a 5 star hotel on the Hawaiian island of Ohau, filming Conditions, and expenses, are perfect.” Worth every penny, you, Spike, and Sir David.
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Would like to see you do a video on the romans in Kirkintilloch
Just watched you in Lost King.
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Yay
We love ya Bruce! Come down here anytime bro ❤.
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Class video bruce - any plans to do something on Myton on Swale or Old Byland? Two battles people need to know more about that followed on fron Bannockburn! 🏴
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Did think about the big anniversary last year, but was in Normandy filming
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours still time to do it when you get back mate 😛 no one better to do it than you!
If you are going to Melbourne, there is a Bannockburn about an hour from there.
Hi just found out I am directly related to Marmaduke Twang, so guess to Robert de Bruce too in a round about way.
I used to play with my friends in the Pelsrteam burn.
Hope your enjoying New Zealand. Enjoy
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Жыл бұрын
What's not to like?
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours trying to find out if any of my family in Auckland are going to see you. Watch out for a shout if they are 👌
A'reyt Bruce. Your soft spot for Yorkshire is showing in this cracking tale from a beautiful location. Those Normans were not that well liked here though, after the "Harrying of the North". You can see it from all the place names with "Robin Hood" in them. It does give me another chance to mention the KZread channel of a Yorkshire lass called Catherine Warr, which viewers might like? I mentioned this channel on comments there, after finding it and subscribing. It could do with some more subscribers I reckon. P.S. If that is not your kind of thing, then another Yorkshire lass, Lucy on Benidorm Stuff channel did a St Patrick's Day video, as if to prove my saying that if you scratch an Englishman you will find a bit of green.
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Жыл бұрын
Well done that lass
Hope your stamina holds out on the tour! Guid fowk are scarce! and we've obviously a fair bit to learn yet...
Marmaduke de Thweng was the son of Marmaduke Thweng of Kilton and Alice de Brus, who was the great great granddaughter of Adam de Brus, Lord of Skelton, and brother to Robert de Brus, 1st Lord of Annandale, and founder of Guisborough Priory where the chronicle you quoted from was written.
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Hi Neil you sound very knowledgeable. So perhaps you can help me. I have a stupid Brain disease which, one side effect from tablets is brain fog. I have seen the coat of arms. Somewhere and can’t remember and it’s driving me up the wall. I’m Lancashire lad but have family in Yorkshire and have always visited historic sites. And I just know I’ve seen his coat of arms. Hope you can help.
@neiloflongbeck5705
Жыл бұрын
@@garygalt4146 a silver background divided in thirds by a red bar with two green parrots above the bar and 1 below. These arms are now carried by his desendant the Earl of Scarborough. I'm from that part of Yorkshire that the de Brus family held.
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@@garygalt4146 Marmaduke had 3 sons, one died childless and the others joined the church. His eldest daughter married the Baron of Lumley who adopted the crest, since it was quite famous after Stirling Bridge. It's now used by his descendants the Earls of Scarborough. Marmaduke's great-grandson Ralph was beheaded after the Epiphany rising plot against Henry IV.
I LOVE LEARNING ALL THE DIFFERENT NAMES OMG! Clydetoon is adorbs and charming. Sorry! But it is!!
I wish you were doing some NSW gigs.
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Жыл бұрын
Me too
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours could you not find a venue?
The great king was very humane. God bless his legacy 🏴♥️🌹👍👍😊
Hey Bruce, Love your Shows.. guess who my great great great Great grandfather is?
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10 ай бұрын
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Good story. 👍 (p.s. I had heard of Marmaduke Thweng, btw - once heard, it's not a name you're likely to forget! 😄).
I like the face painting 😂
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There was another first knight De Argentine sire I have never run from a fight nor will I do now spurring to the nearest schiltrom, dies gallantly
Hey Bruce, my names Corey and I’ve commented before I love your videos and you are so much like my uncle humour wise.. but I was wondering if you could talk about my Family Clan the Gunn Clan if you can? I know I was born In Inverness but I’ve always wondered why the clan isn’t really talked about as much as other clans. You’re an amazing person Bruce… latha math a bhith agad
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Жыл бұрын
I've never done clan videos. Who knows what the future holds
Thanks for another great story, you're right about not knowing it. That New Zealand scenery looks very like our part of Perthshire, amazingly so in fact, made me homesick. As a diversion I'm going to try and find out why 13th century Anglo-Norman nobility should chose green parrots for their symbol of holy trinity.
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It did surprise me
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours according to the Internet first recorded in mid 13th century for that family. In the time of Henry III. The parrot was known as a popinjay at that time. So thanks again, it's a bad day when when you don't learn something new
@janetmackinnon3411
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@@Wee_Langside "Shooting at the popinjay", a collection of coloured feathers at the top f a high pole, was a sport. Maybe the first Baron Thweng won an important match?
This is incredible, my son just sent me a link to this video to watch, as Marmeduke de Thwenge is our ancestor! There is another earlier Marmeduke in our family tree born in 1100 in England and I am a 33rd generation descendant of his. I’ve never counted to find out how many generations we are descended from the Marmeduke who was in the Scottish Freedom Wars, but I know he is in my line. That coat of arms blew me away as well because that is my family’s coat of arms lol. Great video!!!
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Looking forward to the 14th.
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Yay
Ralph de Monthermer who tradition says warned (later King) Robert the Bruce that he had been betrayed to King Edward I was also released without ransom. Many take that as proof that there is at least some truth to the tale.
Aye, nothing like an ice cold Red Stripe during the hot summer days !
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Outstanding Bruce really enjoyed this episode, well done big man 👏
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Much appreciated
This guy sounds like a badass
Another Bannockburn 😮 you’ll tell me next there is another Cumbernauld 😅
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What are they called?😂
@tconbo4514
Жыл бұрын
Naw, there'll never be another cumbernauld, it would go against the laws of nature or physics, or god. . .
Boy, you sure get around Bruce. First Shetland, now New Zealand. I half expect to next hear you're on the Moon (I'm sure you'll find a part of the Moon with a Scottish connection somewhere).
@CailenCambeul
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Supporters of Bonnie Prince Charlie after Bannockburn built a steam rocket and headed off to form a Highland Empire on the dark side of the moon.
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For sure
@janetmackinnon3411
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Neil Armstrong? and (oh dear!) Richard Nixon. Both Border names.
Drat, only just discovered you were here in nz. Hope you enjoy antipodes.
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I am!
Haste ye back.
As a proud Scot, I'm not sure if it shows chivalry or not. Sounds more like family ties mean more than the fight for independence.
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Aye mibbyes
Make a video on the macdonald that fought for Napoleon
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Étienne
"The better part of valour is discretion, in the which better part have I saved mine own life" (Falstaff in Henry IV part I). It doesn't actually mean that discretion is part of valour, but rather that it is its counterpart - its opposite - but better because it allows Falstaff (a blustering, comedic coward) to survive.
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Жыл бұрын
Exactly
Marmeduke is my hero, thanks for the storyline
Found out im 24% Scottish 😊
"Got off Scot Free" 👀. Is there another "story" in that story Bruce?
@janetmackinnon3411
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Here "scot" does not refer to a Scotsman. It was a tax, from the Latin 'scutum', meaning 'shield', which appeared on the coin used to pay it.
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@@janetmackinnon3411 Thank you Janet. Very interesting.
In mediaeval times, parrots were called Popinjays 😊
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I know
Had Marmaduke Tweng been where Henry de Bohun was two nights before, we'd be hearing a woeful tale of killing a cousin who was English! And I'll wager both sides would've gotten the story 100% right for the exact opposite reasons!😀 Fortunately for this knight, it was after the battle and so bending a knee meant a dungeon cell at the worst or a good meal with a cousin you hadn't seen in ages! Either way, you're spending the night indoors for a change and out of that lovely weather! Marmaduke chose wisely! Suspect Henry wishes that he had!
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Good point
Also proves the club that always looks after its own, and we ain't in it!
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True
I’d love to buy you a coffee ….nae sugar or milk …just good coffee….
Other famous people to escape Dumbarton David Byrne of Talking heads
😂 Cromwell
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Bloody hell Bruce your pilling on the “good living “pounds mate ….
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Och dinnae