War thunders jet analogy: if it’s slow, just give it op missiles

@malcolmmorris3947

Жыл бұрын

Only to premiums obviously, the tech tree plebians can keep their subsonic bombers at 10.7, with worse missiles and worse bomb loads that's only fair.

@genericslavdude2919

Жыл бұрын

@@malcolmmorris3947Su-25 (TT), A-10 Late, exactly the same as the premium variants, the late might be 10.0 instead of 9.7 but it’s got double the missiles, also subsonic bomber at 10.7? I call BS

@amanhasfallenintotheriver4660

Жыл бұрын

@@genericslavdude2919 He is talking about the yak-28b br if you are set to arcade

@genericslavdude2919

Жыл бұрын

@@amanhasfallenintotheriver4660 if you’re playing arcade at that BR, the issue is with you

@Tank_Facts

Жыл бұрын

Except in the case of that one premium sk.60 for the swedes. It used to have op AGM'S but those got nerfed to the ground.

There's this really hilarious tactic where you can turn the GBU-12s into cruise missiles by flying at low altitude (100-300m) and high speed(900-1000km/h). Drop the bomb 6-7km away from target and it'll literally fly itself all the way like an AGM65. You can do this with the other laser guided bombs too but you need higher speed (950+km/h) since they are heavier.

@sanmiguel4774

Жыл бұрын

For noobs yeah

@paulb7865

Жыл бұрын

@@sanmiguel4774 honestly on what map is that tatic viabel there are like 2 maps at best that are flat enough for this tactic to be used. i mean it should be fixed asap but it is not this gamechanging mechanic that peopel make it out to be.

@orbitalpotato9940

Жыл бұрын

@@paulb7865 Sinai, sands of Sinai, eastern Europe, Ardennes forest, mozdok, hurtgen forest, berlin, fulda, fire arc, Poland, etc.

@paulb7865

Жыл бұрын

Berlin? You never play cas do you

@diegodollarhide6663

Жыл бұрын

@@johndoeenemyWith the power of friendship!

Whenever I destroy an A-6, I say, "There goes seventy bucks, down in flames." Then I repeat William Defoe's line from Flight of the Intruder: "Do it, Sandy ... I'd do it for you."

@mikefrey5039

Жыл бұрын

You know it doesn't cost $70 everytime, right?😂

Lucky for War Thunder that they didn't give it half the stuff it can actually carry. No Mavericks, No Snake Eye Fin Package (for the entire Mk 80 series bombs, No Mk.20 Rockeye Cluster Munitions, No Walleye or Harpoon or HARM missile. I now say hello to my past family at VA-52. I am so happy to see this skin on the plane!

@patricktho6546

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, wish those weapons were in game

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for the Harpoon for ... a long time .... and I'm not holding my breath.

@osmacar5331

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety and i, sm in the very long, very arduous process of practicing what i preach of, "only bitch if you will do something, otherwise shut up."

@alexhurlbut

Жыл бұрын

I mean some are saying snake eye mod haven't been included because well... they said the game mechanics make that unnecessary.

@patricktho6546

Жыл бұрын

@@alexhurlbut what? Since a delay replaces high drag bombs... Also that explains by far not everything

Always love how you list the "slow/underpowered" con as "Get out and push", among other things lol. And yeah, the price tag is so great that " Open your wallet" is a good descriptor for this plane (and really, all the other premiums in its rank).

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I try to keep the conclusions a little fun :-)

Im so happy that WarThunder included the A-6. But, It was meant to fly in under the radar with poor weather at 500 ft AGL and take out SAM's so the bombers and fighter support could carry out their mission SAM-free.

As always I appreciate your comprehensive reviews on what the capabilities of a plane can do, and a realistic expectation of how it may do in its Battle Rating in game, I want a plane to grind the last tiers of the US jet family so I can get to the F16 and Tomcat, WITHOUT having to fly much of what comes before it, however I don't believe this is the plane I want to do it in, I already have a Su25, and in its similaries I always feel just happy to have survived a battle. Thank You

It's so good. A lot of SPAA have very limited missile range in that 10.0 br range so flying high with impact fuses is devastating. I primarily use it to hunt for enemy SPAA to clear the way for lower level attackers like F4C and A10.

I absolutely love the videos! Such a nice mix of facts and gaming!! Thank you so much for creating such incredible content, Don't ever stop :)

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

o7

Thanks for the review. I really enjoy your balanced verdict on each video.

Tim i find your videos very informative and useful for aviation fans. Thanks for putting such a great work.

I wish lgb and apkws got a thing that shows general where it's possible to hit, would make laser bombs so much easier to learn and give apkws an actual chance to be used

Always love your vids. Hope the updated radar video is going ok.

Thanks Tim! This is what I've been waiting for

Hella yeah TRAM reviewed by Tim!

Love the vid man. Ten seconds in. Not buying an A-6E, but sure as hell watching this! X

Great video always love ur content keep up the good work

i love these videos they help so much

I call bullshit when he said going for base bombing in air RB, it’s usually impossible to get there in time. And 99% of the reasons to fly this thing is to try and get easy kills with aim 9L. Without missiles it’s useless.

@amanhasfallenintotheriver4660

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a skill issue. The fact that American mains can't seem to bomb a base with there a-10s and a-6es (which are equipped with an incredible missile for it's br), yet su-25 players manage to bomb bases all the time and still dog fight. Sounds like American players have a serious skill issue.

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

It really just depends on your team and your flight path. If I'm playing "for fun" (not to record footage), and I'm going for bases in a slower plane, I often flank waaaaay around the edge of the battlefield to avoid interception. Sometimes I have to wait for the bases to respawn after some fast jets take them out, but its "safer". If there aren't a lot of other attackers on my team and it looks clear, then sometimes I just go right in.

@wapniak666

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety while this gets you the base to bomb its not really efficient grinding method, imo if you want to bomb and you dont get to do it before merge/inteception you are probably better off doing something else assuming you care about rp/hour and as this is premium i think a lot of people do of course just playing "for fun" is a different story

@ursensitiveinagayway4016

Жыл бұрын

If you take 4 aim 9L you can go furthest left or right wherever you’re team goes let them fight for the first couple engagements then fire any aim 9L at people trying to kill, use you’re teammates at meat shields

This plane is an absolute nightmare in GRB, it can wipe well positioned tanks, and slap CAS out of the air, it makes playing against the US in the 9.0-11.0 bracket hellish.

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

I was honestly surprised how effective it ended up being, even when used in higher-level GRB matches.

lets go, another Tim video

As someone who used the su 25K for a long time and then picked up the traam. It really feels like I turned on easy mode with the aim 9L, It is so nice to be on the other side of those missiles.

considering that planes at BR 10 and up require 20-30 bucks EACH for ace crew and that ace crew makes a big difference in a fight, the whole game is a massive pay to win cash grab

@skilz2kil528

Жыл бұрын

Just in case u didnt know, u can ace your crew without GE by just playing it till u reach the rp required for ace - you do have to train them first with silver lions though before this rp counts towards this so be sure to do that asap if its a plane u want aced. You can check this progress in the crew qualification tab, i ended up getting a few free aces this way just by accident.

@wapniak666

Жыл бұрын

@@skilz2kil528 it takes fuckin ages tho for f2p players, years even

@skilz2kil528

Жыл бұрын

@@wapniak666 yeah i'll give u that, it takes a while without premium.

Cries in F8U-2

@patricktho6546

Жыл бұрын

And sometimes even the A7

@kerotomas1

Жыл бұрын

Play F8E if you like the crusader. It has pretty good radar missiles at the same BR It’s scary.

New tim video!!! Life is good

I've been revisiting the USAF F-104's since they got their BR decrease, and against stuff like this it's a weird experience, not always painful, but weird. Sometimes you get swarmed with all aspect heatseekers with no way out, but sometimes the people you're flying against won't bother to dodge your AIM-9B. Kinda off topic, it's just interesting how the A-10, Su-25, and now A-6 have changed the meta at their BR, especially for opposition without flares.

Playing BR 10 last week's after the new patches and I absolutely love this plane, best CAS option for me. Sometimes the bombs don't track, still you can Annihilate half enemy team in their push phase or just suppress gun AA.

I love this aircraft!!! Its so good in Sim!!! Its got a great targeting camera, can take out 2 and a half bases if you do the math right, and has a wide variety of weapons, not to mention how stable it is! Love this aircraft to death.

They don’t have anything even related to this plane in the tech tree 😳

I absolutely love the A6 but I'll definitely be waiting for a sale when it comes to this.

$70 hell no!

This is a very comfy plane to fly but The inner pylons load less then the outer, put the gunpod and aim9 on the inner ones then bombs on the outer ones. Also its wings do snap if you pull neg 4G over 800 and when it loses it wingtip the control spar also goes.

This is my favourite premium airplane, by far. It is super versatile and the aim9l's are absolutely savage at its current br. If the a10 is worth it's 60 bucks, this thing is 150% worth the 70 bucks, its better in every way (exept for the lack of mavericks) and can research rank 8! And comes with a bit more gold and premium time! I suck at air rb, i bought it mainly for cas, but even in air rb i VERY often get 3 kills, sometimes even 4, i take the 4 aim9l's and 3 bombs and that makes it an awesome grinder that easily maintains a positive K/D! (This plane made me enjoy and often play air rb which i very rarely did before!)

Grumman's aircraft are incrediblly tough. I managed to fly 40 km in F6F with red engine

love your review, usually use them for a bed time story, though a minor question to ask is, would you be able to show pictures of the other planes you talk about during the reviews you do even?

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

I try to be pretty strict about not using any photos/etc I don't have copyright permissions on, which is why I usually don't.

@bambi86

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety didnt think about copyright as i have been usually asuming that anything in the public domain of the internet is to free use as long as the source it is taken from is in like the description or shown when the image is used, so like source credited? but i do understand that dont wana have issues with the copyright and cant wait to see a new Tims video

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

@@bambi86 I've occasionally used a few public-domain images or video clips in my content, but in a very general sense I try to be a little "over-careful" with that stuff. This channel is still a hobby for me, but if it unexpectedly takes off someday I wouldnt want to find my whole channel suddenly demonitized over some surprise copyright strikes because I used some images in a video 4 years ago or something like that.

@skantilles75

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety *sigh* I just tried to remember the time back in the 90s were the internet was free.

also note that the laser ball turret doesnt turn at all when it is suppose to swivel and rotate

When i spawn this plane, i try to fly it at more than 8km altitude to outrange spaa and i just use that thermal and zooming camero to drop 9 gbu's on enemys tanks

I wish we got the other versions of her

Probably the best bomber at it's BR. Those big Paveway-II's are ridiculous. They pack a hell of a punch and decimate airfields in SIM. It IS slow but those optics balance the plane alone, not mentioning turn rate and manucbility. !

I've always liked the look of the A-6. I wish we had a tech tree version. Not paying $70.

I just went over from ps4 to Xbox series x… can’t transfer my progress over and I was top rank with USA … ugh lol starting all over again is painful but the game runs so much smoother

I run 13x M83 1000lbs and just CCRP bases on drops of 6s.

Just wondering, was there a reason you cut out previewing the different paint jobs available for aircraft? I remember you used to do it back in the day.

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

I usually include the skins preview on planes where the paintjobs are significantly different. A lot of the higher tier US Jets just have different squadron markings on flat grey.

Still haven't figured out why they never added the SWIP modernization to the tech-tree, its not an insanely different plane in terms of balance/flight performance, but adds far more interesting and diverse weapons compatibility. Gaijin never lets us have anything cool for free I suppose lol.

This thing is toxic lol

I don't really care as I don't have this thing and playing it as a fighter is kinda weird, but shouldn't it be able to mount a gunpod or other types of load in the ventral pylon?

Planes that don’t have flares should NEVER face all aspect missiles. This thing was the nail in the coffin for me. I got rid of this piece of junk that war thunder had become over the years.

I still think it should be BR 9.7, it should be on sale for 50% off, AND it should get Laser guided Mavs, Shrikes, Harpoons, Harms, walleyes and maybe Mk60 Sea mines

I'm learning to hate this jet even more than any helicopter or any other cas jet in ground rb around 10.0. Each paveway is basically 1 guaranteed kill unless your target dies before it gets there, which is unlikely to happen if u select targets not near teammates, and the fact that it gets thermal, good zoom and a fully gimballed targeting pod combine to make this thing more oppressive than any other cas at the br. I've had multiple games now where a single half decent player in a tram has completely decimated the enemy team single handedly with 10+ kills all in this jet. Purely because they are so high alt that our AA cant touch them at all. Climb to 6-10km, bomb everything to dust, win - it's as simple as that. 10/10 toxic & 10/10 recommend.

interesting that you didn't run into any wing rip issues i seem to break in half in every other game lol, even while doing just a slight turn my loadout is 4x9ls and set of 2 napalm bombs so not the heaviest for sure

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't know - I saw a lot of other people commenting in-game about wingrip but I never ran into it.

@Maktumekal_Ilzrei

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety I saw someone mentioning it in a discord and went test flying it. I think part of that wing rip issue is that the A-6 likes to pitch the nose down on aileron input. At mid to low speed its not a problem, but when you're pushing the guppy's limits, a single aileron roll is enough to Red out the test drive pilot. And if you're putting in other inputs with that roll command, it has a tendency to give you an asymmetric wing load rip. But, that's just from like an hour messing around with the test drive.

Does anyone know what the main green display for pilot inside the cockpit is for?

@Halinspark

2 ай бұрын

It's probably the radar

Asymmetrical loadouts!!! IT IRKS ME!!!

Can you do a control setup for this on a PC?

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

Check the "complete guide for air to ground weapons" in my video library, posted just a couple of weeks ago - goes over the keybindings for all the ATG stuff.

Why do they call it TRAM? That's the name of the targeting pod underneath the aircraft..

has this been on sale?, ita cool plane but the game itself is lackluster

I'd be more likely to buy premium vehicless if they sold cheaper options that didn't come with premium time and Eagles and stuff, and it's baffling that doesn't seem to be a thing.

i may sound like a random level 20 but trust me when I say that it is actually good. If you load up the plane with one countermeasure pod, 3 1000LBx3 bomb loadout, and a missle (or 2 pods) this can get you 40K sL and 10K rP a match (if your not shot down you can go rtb and get even more rewards.) I got the f14 this way (got the a6e when I was researching first rank 6 plane) This is the best way you'll get points in this jet. You can also dogfight at 300-200 MPH with flaps down (you will outurn most planes at this br this way) Edit: Now something I wanted to point out was that when your bombing, PULL UP don't pull to the side, I encounter negative -5 g and wing rips every time. Just wanted to mention that -g will cause wing rip

@ursensitiveinagayway4016

Жыл бұрын

Bro just do 4x AIM 9L and 2 napalm I’m getting 10k-20k research and 50k-100k Silver lions, I already farmed so quick to the f-14 tomcat I’m level 40 exactly I used to be level 28 when I got the tram it farmed me so much in a little amount of time

@doge151alt_account

Жыл бұрын

sounds intresting, will try when i need to grind again (cuz I spent a lot of time getting the f14 and want to break before going for the f16)

@ursensitiveinagayway4016

Жыл бұрын

@@doge151alt_account that’s what I’m doing, imma take a little break then start grinding for the f16. The f14 is fun to use and I finally set my pitch and yaw controls on simulator battle it’s super slow though going up and down it turns so slow

I play on ps4 myself.. should I be Lasing targets prior to GBU drops, or laser once released. Looking for button layout ideas, never used smart munitions in game lol

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

Both are valid strats, but my personal preference is to lase before drop.

@cndmarksmen7383

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety thanks for the response, been watching a few videos on the A6. How do I lock onto a specific target(tank) and then switch to next target... is this doable?

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

@@cndmarksmen7383 There isn't any way to cycle to next target automagically with the laser targeting pod, you have to un-select your target (I use an overlapped keybind to clear all active targets from all sensors) and then re-target the next guy manually.

Hey Tim, I've been having this idea in my mind for the last days about what if aircraft can have a base BR (or example 9.7) but you can choose to add missiles that will bump your BR up (like 10.3)? would this fix A-10's entering the fight, getting a cheap missile kill and die? i don't really know and would like to see if you could test flying bad planes with good missiles and then without the missiles because i only have 1 jet on sweden and no money for premiums. Thanks for reading if you are idk

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

This has been suggested quite often, but the snail hasn't run with it yet.

They need to stop adding planes like this with stupid missiles at low BRs because “it’s slow”

I’m just waiting for Gaijin to actually do their job and model the Radar

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

There are a significant number of ground attack jets that are supposed to have a radar set and don't, some (like this A-6E) have them modeled but not functional. My guess is that they are waiting for when they introduce air-to-ground radar as a baseline feature, and THEN a lot of these jets will suddenly find themselves with a radar set. Thats just a guess though.

@jameson1239

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety which is weird as the tornado marine flieger has one

its a shame its a prem, i hope we get a tech tree version of the A-6

You forgot to mention the air bombs.

Always like the look of Intruders..

I still don't understand why he lands normally, just do a war thunder landing. Come in with your gear up at a moderate speed, touch down and you'll slow down real quick then the repair is basically no different even if you grenade your engines on a prop plane.

I'm grinding through the Hunter atm and while I can easily beat an A-6 if it's run out of missiles, if it has ANY AIM-9Ls, you're dead. That thing might be a sack of potatoes with wings, but it has good enough turn performance to always be able to turn to face you if they see you coming.

@flncrs7012

7 ай бұрын

If you mean hunter f58, that thing is shit near this 😂,i have both, but agm's on that thing work only when you are clise enought for spaa to take you easy, a6e tram just outrange every aa at that br.

@sergarlantyrell7847

7 ай бұрын

@@flncrs7012 No, I meant the Hunter F.6 which doesn't have any countermeasures and the missiles have a 1km range and get flared incredibly easily. The Hunter F.58 is great by comparison. Honestly, they have the F.6 unhistorical missiles so they could do with giving it unhistorical flares too, because 9.7 without flares (or being supersonic) and you're dead.

You could have had two kills, maybe more with the gun pods, but because you hesitated and even tried going vertical for one guy(for some reason) you only get one... You can't hesitate like that.

@TimsVariety

11 ай бұрын

The purpose of the clips I select isn't to try and show off that time I did well or to act like I'm some s-tier god ace (I'm a fairly average player overall), they're selected to try and demonstrate a variety of different situations with the plane. While I'm not sure exactly what section you're referencing, there *are* parts in some of my vids where I include myself deliberately making mistakes (getting energy trapped, for example) to demonstrate a weakness of the aircraft or something. If you're coming in to nitpick the tactics I used in a segment or something, that isn't really the point of the vid. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4Kita6ucdS1e5s.html

If there ever was a jet that would made me learn CAS in DCS, it would be this one...... i too have a soft spot for it. However, the cool kids want AF Phantoms and Eurofighters way more, so i guess that's what will get :/

@browning2471

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget a monkeys paw curled when the cool kids asked for that… they’ll definitely be broke on launch for a long while

@ilejovcevski79

Жыл бұрын

@@browning2471 aye, true that...

When talking about the amount of ordinance the tram can carry, you and I have VERY different definitions of what it means to carry "a lot" of ordinance...the f105 and f4 carry way more than that. Not being able to carry aim9l doesn't change the fact they carry way, way more

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

and those planes also carry a LOT of ordnance.

@frostedbutts4340

Жыл бұрын

What are you blathering about lmao The A6E carries MORE tonnage of dumb bombs than either, and has better smart ground attack options too.

Is there an advanced review?

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

My three WT review formats are quick reviews, basic reviews, and detailed reviews. Quick reviews are usually new versions of stuff I've already covered in the past (F-104S-ASA after I'd done the F-104S already, things like that) where I mostly just talk about whats different. Basic reviews are like this A-6E review. Detailed reviews are usually longer and go into .. more detail .. about some new feature or something - like the Mig-29 with the helmet mounted targeting system.

@DM-qm5sc

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety I see 🤔 I'll allow it 👌

this is fun with 1/2 a tank off gass and 4 x AIM 9 L's 🙂

I hope they add the newer TRAM upgrade package thing, the one which makes the TRAM look good

@majo3488

Жыл бұрын

WCSI or SWIP are the names of further upgrades.

@Kerbalizer

Жыл бұрын

@@majo3488 ye thanks

I wonder what br gaijin in all there wisdom will end up sticking the su-24 at. Probably some goofy br and continue there br compression trend.

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

Depends if it ends up being premium or tech-tree ......

@amanhasfallenintotheriver4660

Жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety If they pull a a-6e with it I'm going to be sad. If they want to make a premium version that's fine but add the tech tree one in the same update. No one should have to shell out 70$ to play with a plane they want.

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

@@amanhasfallenintotheriver4660 Agree 1000000%

Great usa really needed another low teir attacker with aim9l's that can face 9.0 this one specially cancerous because its fast and has 4

@amanhasfallenintotheriver4660

Жыл бұрын

Gaijin logic "American mains clearly are struggling, give the some more op shit to boost win rates "

@patricktho6546

Жыл бұрын

Br compression greets

It’s a sorta fun plane but I would much rather of just got a 11.0 dedicated fighter like every other nation except for the bomb truck. It’s why nato usually get dumped on nowadays at 10.0 too many a10s and a6’s means instead of all together it’s pretty much go in alone and get jumped by 3 fighters. The f4’s and f5’s usually are carrying bombs too so pretty much the entire team is bombers and get tromped by fighters from Russia. And with everyone going in alone american win rates are garbage lately

5 months later and its STILL $70..... Gaijin must smoke the Good... and expensive, stuff...

i guess its been nerfed wings rip all the time.

They buffed the fuck out of the radar you get launch detection and shit now

HOW 3

Second!

Who uses landings gear to land lol

Hey there is a reason you pay $70 dollars. You are paying to win. It has the best missiles in the game at 10.0 and it has flares and chaff.

First

@wdkpwr6586

Жыл бұрын

edit: please if you buy this plane dont fvck up other peoples Air RB with it thank you

Got it on sale for 30 🥱

Do you have a discord that I can dm u with or anywhere I can dm you?

@TimsVariety

Жыл бұрын

Email (listed in my "about" here), twitter DMs, facebook DMs. I don't have a discord (for now), have mentioned why in a few FAQ vids.