Thank you so much! The best, informative KZread video on lower control arm replacement! Other KZreadrs stay away from that left (driver) side and only show the right side replacement. You saved me countless hours and money. Without your expertise and tip about that troublesome passenger side front lower control arm bolt, I would have removed the transmission fluid pan to get that bolt out, thereby costing me additional time and money! I found that removing the battery, battery tray and air box, like you suggested, made it a whole lot easier to get at those 3 transmission mount bolts. Once again, many thanks!🙏

Dealing with the problem parts makes this a SUPER GOOD vid.. Thanks

@themechanic6117

5 ай бұрын

Glad the video helped you

Brilliant video. Made my life so much easier knowing about that captivated nut problem. Saved me hours of grief for sure!

@themechanic6117

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Thanks for the great video. It really helped me in replacing my control arms. Just FYI if you have a manual MK4 Jetta/Golf/Beetle you don't have to lift up the transmission to get the bolt out of the hole on the passenger side. Also there is a an allen wrench or torx fitting on the end of both the outer tie rod end so you don't have to use a vice grip to keep it from spinning or an angle grinder which I used and then my wife showed me there was a torx fitting! lol There is one on the ball joint, but you can't get to it so it's useless.

Excellent camera work...excellent verbal descriptions...excellent text overlays. I watch a lot of car repair videos and never seen any better quality than this.

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad my hard work paid off .Thanks for the comment 👍

Wonderful video. Loved your lucid explanations. More VW videos please.

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you👍

You saved me soooooo much money, I couldn't get that one bold out, where the transmission pan is in way, thank you for this..

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Just did my struts and discovered the control arm bushings looked trashed, and Miraculously this popped up on my feed. KZread reading our minds.... Vid is A #1 !! about the best I have seen. explanations of each step and problems really make this a vid above the rest. Peace.

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate the comment . glad the video helped you

I tried other people’s suggestions. This method worked perfectly for me. Don’t forget to get new bolts afterwards.

I had to do the same thing when a captive nut broke loose inside the frame the last time I did a lower control arm. I cut the frame on three sides and peeled it back. I tack welded the nut inside and bent the flap back in place and welded it. Good job!

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

+Bruce L. Sounds like you did a good job. Sometime you gotta do what you gotta do

@BruceLyeg

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm always nervous whenever I see a captive nut inside a frame. No matter how careful you are, sometimes they just bust loose.

Excellent video. Your explanation is superb. Better than most on here by far. Bonus problem solving too.

@themechanic6117

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Man I just replaced the front lower control arms on my 2006 Accord. It was my first time doing it on any car and I had very similar problems as you did on this car. I had to cut bolts with a grinder. It took me a whole day for each side. I had to find a nut for front 19mm bolt because the welded nut snapped off the frame. I had to run around to a few stores to find the nut. Nobody had the nut I needed except Ace Hardware. It almost turned into a nightmare. I dont blame you for leaving the subframe cut open. It makes a lot more sense to leave it open.

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Simple jobs can easily turn into a nightmare if a captive nut breaks loose. I know what its like lol...now imagine potentially having than problem on almost every car that comes through the door.😒😭

@erocker78

4 жыл бұрын

nic dude, it's super stressful and that was my own car. I couldn't imagine having stuff like that go wrong while working on someone else's car. OMG

Engineering at its finest right there. A best practice would probably be to weld a new nut in place and then weld a new plate over the top but with the condition and age of that vehicle I don’t think it will matter too much lol. Excellent job none the less.

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

If it were a newer car I would have welded it back.then again, if it were a newer car the nut probably wouldn't have broken off lol

This was very helpful. Thanks for your excellent work.

@themechanic6117

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Excellent work and video

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

great video, great teacher! thanx a bunch!

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. I appreciate it👍

Thanks for adding the part numbers bud.

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Thank you so MUCH for the explanation on the weld nut that spun, I used a 2 1/2" hole saw instead of an abrasive blade triangle. Then when I was done filled in with great stuff foam, let it harden, cut off smooth and spray-painted black. . .figured if access is ever needed, can just melt with a torch.

@themechanic6117

2 жыл бұрын

There's many way to do it. Glad you get the job done

top man good info and a sound job

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate the comment

On the MK4 TDI, all I needed to do was remove the dogbone lower motor mount, swing motor a few inches and the left hand side bolt comes out.

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

Nice! What ever gets the job done

@derekklepper6700

5 жыл бұрын

I know this comment is old but hopefully you this will be sssn... Can you please describe in detail how you removed the dogbone or is there a video showing this? I'm getting ready to do my driver's side lower control arm on a 2000 Jetta and this sounds much easier than what was shown in the video. Any other tips for the drivers side lower control arm would be greatly appreciated also. Thanks so much!

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Look under the engine you'll see the dog bone mount. Unbolt it and you should be able to pull the engine forward a little to get the bolt out

@robertfromcalifornia4111

4 жыл бұрын

I tried that and my pan tops out and still blocks the bolt. If this video method doesn't work, I saw someone loosened the dogbone, took out 2 front subframe bolts and loosen the 2 back ones. Lowering the subframe means that bolt gets lowered. Then, pull it out.

That is exactly my problem thank you so much for putting this video on here

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@swagyp5502

3 жыл бұрын

Litterly tho bro life saver better then the other dude but I got an understanding from him yours out it in better perspective

I watched this video after installing one control arm and then had difficulty taking off the other because of the spilling ball joint nut. I ended up cutting the nut with a Dremel. The three bolts on the old control arm were corroded and wouldn't turn. Good video. I also had to Dremel two 18 mm bolts by cutting them in half. Neither side bolts with the nut would turn. Rounded off.

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a nightmare!

@JohnLaFosse

5 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 car has 224k on it. So...not too surprised. Put on ECS performance arms. Should ride a little better.

Great video dude, loved the editing!

@jorgino1007

4 жыл бұрын

Also, I think you made the right choice with leaving the subframe un-wielded

rather than messing about with the ball joint nut, it's simpler to just pop the driveshaft nut off and pull the driveshaft out of the way then you can access it all with plenty of room. To split to taper just get a club hammer on the housing and it pops free.

Son...Jus Bought 02 Jetta...And It NEEDS EVERYTHING...!!! You SureMake This Easy...Thanx

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah buying older cars usually requires plenty of new parts. Good luck 👍

@williame.person8126

6 жыл бұрын

Thanx...Something Tells Me This Will Be Ah SOLO Act...Jus WANT'S Me Too Do It All...!!!

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

Good luck! You can do it!👍

Torque spec in the Chilton Manuel for the bolt at 8:20(and the other big bolt on the control arm) is 90 ft/lbs

Very nice video. Very Helpful. I was doing the same thing on my 2004 Golf TDI. Just had to shake my head at the way this car is designed. No idea why the Jackasses put a place on top of the ball joint stud where you can insert an allan wrench to keep shaft from spinning when there is no room to get it in there. Now I'm of German descent, but working on my 2004 Golf TDI has me shaking my head at the Idiots who designed it. So many things on that car are very flimsy such as trunk opening mechanism, Battery Box, rear seat fold down latch and of course the engine oil dipstick.

Nice tip on raising the trans

Just did a suspension refresh with new springs, struts, control arms and tie rods. Thank goodness my golf doesn’t need the transmission pan lifted to get that bolt out.

@kaden1292

5 ай бұрын

golfs dont have that problem?

@jerrycai3317

5 ай бұрын

@@kaden1292 i have a manual transmission and its smaller than an auto so i guess it doesnt have the same problem

instant sub and like for the minor details thank you

@themechanic6117

3 ай бұрын

Thank you 💪

Sweet video mate, spot on👌 I would of leaft it open allso for the next poor bloke,

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 💪

Like watching a magic show HAHA ok I'll put my engineer hat on and say the subframe must be re welded to cover the access opening with another piece of steel . The locknut is fine and with my DIY hat on I'd do that job exactly like you did :)

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

STEVE ROB REVIEWS I think I like your DIY hat better 😂. The engineers new that nut would fail and expect you buy and pay for labor on a new subframe $$$. Thanks for commenting. Always appreciate the feedback.

Thank you so much. Just finished replacing mine.

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Nice work 💪

@UltraGamma25

3 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 I should have paid attention when you mentioned rubber mallet. It was BRUTAL without it. I had to use the old part to knock into the new one. 3 times trying until it actually fit.

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Important thing is you got it done.

Wow that bolt , also I love your videos I can tell u put in a lot of work

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

Hector Rocha thank you, glad you enjoyed it, I appreciate your comment.

Sweet video

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Really very helpful

@themechanic6117

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Drives side. I was able to turn the the control arm at an angle & remove it without removing the bolt from the hole. Then slid new one in (over the tricky bolt), then swing the other side into place. Thanks for the video though. I might not have attempted it otherwise.

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Next time ill try that 👍

@elijackson691

2 жыл бұрын

I'm working on it right now and cannot pull that baby out...prob gonna just do what the video suggests

Thanks for the info! Omg i was having nightmares that the nut was going to get loose, i prepped it with lots of penetrating oil and hits with a hamer. I ended ruining the threads of the sway bar link and had to retap them. Thanks god its over lmao.

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Lol yeah it can go bad real fast

@RedondoBeach2

4 жыл бұрын

Where exactly did you focus the hammering? Was it the head of the bolt or the subframe, just under the nut?

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Put a socket on the bolt (one you dont mind ruining ) hit the socket. Sometimes the shock from the hammering will help it break loose

@RedondoBeach2

4 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 Interesting that a hammer was used on a socket placed on the bolt head. To be very precise, I assume you're talking about hitting the head of the socket, which does not put direct pressure on the head of the bolt. If that's the case, I assume the intent was to rattle the sub frame enough to hopefully loosen anything that might be seizing the bolt to the captive nut. Alternatively, did you install the socket on the head of the bolt and then hammer the side of the socket in some way? I don't believe this is what you were describing but want to be certain. Up to this point, I have had my car on the lift a couple times to do various other maintenance and took those opportunities to spray a lot of penetrating oil into a hole in the subframe where the captive nut is welded. I'll do the same thing one more time on the day I attempt to remove the bolt in a few more weeks. Currently I'm still gathering all of the parts I'll need to complete the job.

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

After putting the socket on the bolt you hit the socket on top where you would put the ratchet on. Honestly thats one bolt you probably dont want to hit with a hammer. The welds holding the captive nut are so weak it could cause them to crack. First keep spraying with penetrating fluid and use a wrench or ratchet to slowly turn the bolt. Sometimes going back n forth really helps instead of just trying to remove it. If it breaks free and starts to move with breaking off the captive nut then you're golden.

The bolt hitting the oil pan on the drivers side is only for automatic transmissions? Because the oil pan of the engine is on the passenger side

If you cut that spot in the subframe, would it not reduce the structural rigidity of the subframe itself? Awesome video anyhow!

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Ideally it should get welded back together. Im not going to say it doesnt affect the structural integrity because im sure it does. Will it fall apart because of this? No

I feel your pain! =) Thanks for making me look like the good guy... you can tell everyone the truth (that I was ROFLMAO)!

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas EXOVCDS it's ok I would laugh at someone else also... GOOD LUCK!! 😂😂

Brother tyvm for this video you made my job so fucking easy so ty. Def a fan now!

Had the same problem with the welded nut, but on torquing it on reassembly, not on loosening it, and on both sides. I thought I was home free when it came loose OK. Now I'll be cutting into the subframe. So there is no concern that cutting this access hole will cause a weakening of the subframe?

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

If you have a welder just weld it back . If not try to cut a small hole just big enough to get the job done

@Willyferd

5 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 Thanks for the reply. Welding isn't something I do, yet! But I should be able to cut a smaller hole as I don't have to get vise grips in there. Just enough to get in a nut and an open-end wrench.

Cutting the subframe :O Not gonna pass the inspection from where I am from in that shape!

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

No inspections here. If we had inspections i would have welded it back up

What size bolt goes on Lower control arm ..nines 2002 vw Jetta

I thought you don’t torque the control arms bolts until it’s under load. Am I right about that?

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

And that's what I did...

I thought my Dodge Caliber was a pain to get off. That rear bushing is the main problem with mine too

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

spartannn300 you should get it fixed, it can cause other problems. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍

Only get oem parts for vw suspension or you will just end up haven't you replace them a few months down the road

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Most customers i work for dont want to pay for oem parts

Great job and that sucks that nut broke off. Never had that issue on these but I can see with all that salt about why you did. I'm not sure what I'd do about that bolt, although my automotive OCD would probably kick in and I'd cover it back up. Awesome editing as always

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

Badgertronix thank you for your input. If I get beat up by the E web people I'll weld it back up lol .I appreciate the comment 👍

To get the control arm out wiggle side to side. Not up and down.

At this point 13:21 in the video you have your hand on a hose that connects to the lower portion of the air box. What does the other end connect to?

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Teres a air pump in front of the engine. The tube connects to that

@RedondoBeach2

3 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 Sorry for my late reply and thank you for your answer to my original question. The reason the question was asked is because my car (2004 VW GTI 2.8L VR6, 6-speed manual) is missing that hose but the engine runs smoothly. Since I'm unsure how this hose and the airflow running through it are intended to work with the engine, I'm unsure of the long term impact of the hose being uninstalled. Can you tell me what problems might develop as a result of this hose being missing? Is the hose possibly only installed on the 1.8L 4-cylinder turbo version of this car but not the 2.8L 6-cylinder?

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

It uses that tube to get clean air, without the tube its allowed to suck in air that hasnt been filtered.

@RedondoBeach2

3 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 I need to find the location of the air pump and fix this issue. So, to be absolutely clear, my car is the 2.8L VR6 normally aspirated engine. It does not have a turbo installed like the 1.8L 4-cylinder came with from the factory. Is this air pump on the normally aspirated VR6 engine, and if it is, I'm trying to picture exactly where it would be right in front of the engine. I'll lose sleep over this now. :)

I have to do this job and I'm scared to death about that nut in the sub frame. I think I'll let it soak in penetrating oil over night, heat it and bang it before I attempt to turn it out. I don't want to have to invest in a cutter and welder. Do you think it's better to take it off with an impact or by hand with a wrench?

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

Good luck. That's a good idea. If the nut it going to break then it doesn't matter which way you approach it but if I had to pick I'd say best chances are a impact

@RedondoBeach2

4 жыл бұрын

I'm interested in knowing the result of your effort. Did you heat the subframe and nut, and did that allow you to remove the bolt? Did the nut break off? What lessons did you learn during the job that can possibly help others do the job successfully?

Nice work , I would have put a few tacks easy to cut after ..

Odds are that car want out Last the new suspension. Would cover up if tools available

As far as the opening that you had to cut is concerned, I would be tempted to weld a plate over it for structural strength. But since this video is from 2018, I don't suspect that you still have the car.

All you had to do was straighten out the wheels. You have your sterring turned all the way right thats why the hub got in the way of the ball joint.

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

That makes sense. Sometimes you dont realise whats wrong even though its right in front of your face lol

Do your own research on torque numbers people. I own a manual for this car and I am pretty sure a lot of his torque specs are wrong. This is a great video, I would say always double check torque specs as a rule though. Anyone can get a torque spec wrong.

@themechanic6117

5 жыл бұрын

I dont have a manual. I just found information online so of course it coukd be wrong. I tried.

I'm going to be replacing my passenger side lower control arm next Saturday, but 1:56 is what i'm afraid of

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Its definitely a problem

What size of screw does it use

@3jasom

11 ай бұрын

If you mean bolts on arm bushing it is 18mm

12:08 driver side control arm

Ok, if it takes me more than 8 minutes you'll be hearing from my solicitor! :D

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Results may vary 😂

Moog is ok?

@themechanic6117

6 ай бұрын

I'm not a big fan of mood but they're ok. There's definitely worse brands

I’ve done dozen control arms you do not need remove battery. Wow

What a strange design, concealed nuts that require a window cut into the frame to put vice grips on a round nut.

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that design isnt friendly in the rust belt. Becomes a real problem once those welds break.

Your editing kills me...in a good way. They say German engineering is the best but they messed up when they put that nut in there. No, leave it open. :)

@themechanic6117

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm always looking for new ideas to entertain the viewers ,I don't feel like it compromises the strength of the sub frame. If I get enough negative feedback I'll weld it back lol👍🍻,thanks for commenting.

@RedondoBeach2

4 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 How is the car and subframe holding up now that 2 years have passed since the control arms were replaced and a significant portion of the subframe was removed? Has the removed portion of the subframe caused structural integrity issues for the car? Has it possibly caused the subframe to buckle in anyway? If the subframe has become weak and bend, have you also noticed an alignment issue with the car? I believe viewers of your channel would appreciate seeing a follow up video that discusses these concerns, along with a good look at what that section of the subframe looks like now.

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

That car was here about a week ago , subframe looked perfectly fine. Owner said no issues at all 👍

Where is your shop?

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Chicago, IL

@UltraGamma25

3 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 Thank you. I'm in Louisiana though, what's your shop called if you don't mind me asking?

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Work from my garage

Personally i would have welded the hole up to prevent anything been flicked up off the road into and thus making it rot

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

The whole car is rotting away anyway. Plus , if its welded shut how would you protect the inside bare metal once its welded shut?

@yamamsgaff

4 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 spray it with primer maybe depends might need cutting out more and fresh metal and replacing rotten bits but if its rotting away scrap it

Bending the frame at 0:40 are we? :D lol

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Frame is not going to bend by putting a jack stand under it...

@rkan2

3 жыл бұрын

@@themechanic6117 Why is it moving in the video in relation to the rest of the frame then? :D

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Everything flexes...no damage is being caused. Thanks for watching

How many hours does this job bill out at? If only an hour or two, I may not waste my time.

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

Im not sure but i think a hour or two sounds right. Without having the right tools id pay someone to do it lol

Just bent tf outta their dogbone mount bracket lol

Hope you’re not loosening bolts with your torque wrench!

@themechanic6117

3 жыл бұрын

Why would I do that? I know better

You bolted the lower ball joint in crooked. You should have straighten your wheels out

Bro why you need to apologize for your breath you're outside in the cold

awesome video but u can use leverage with a pipe an the transmission mount removed push the engine forward an u can sneak the bolt me an buddy just did this dont have to take the engine mount off

@themechanic6117

2 жыл бұрын

The next time I did this job I used that method and it definitely works better👍