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@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

Asalam Aleikum brothers, May Allah reward you, as a bro I love the feedback sisters are giving this time who are seeing beauty & practicality of polygyny, not following those hollywood simp and feminist tax payer nisas hollering on make belief & then on tik tok talking about how they played themselves, many will see the light in sha Allah!

Salaam, can I please kindly request anyone who reads this to make dua for my beloved father who passed away recently. May Allah grant him jannatul firdous, protect him from the trials of the grave, expand his grave and fill it with noor, forgive his sins and reunite us all in jannah, ameen. JazakAllah Khair

@marabara7863

2 жыл бұрын

ان لله وان اليه راجعون، رحمة الله وادخلة جنات عدن. My brother/Sister MayAllah give you strength and patince

@GrayWolf1997

2 жыл бұрын

Ameen

@rosiebaluch1705

2 жыл бұрын

inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun, Ameen. ☝

@ArmanKhan-tx4gi

2 жыл бұрын

Ameen.

@The3Muslims

2 жыл бұрын

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun

Polygamy is very much about women ,very little about men. The women are those who suffer the consequences of the husband's every decision. And once he's married them, they're left alone ,he has and MUST provide for 2- 4 families !

Sis your making it seem as if the man only wants what’s best for the community when you say polygamy saves the women and their children that don’t have a father, but you forgot to mention that Muslim men these days don’t want the kids. You forgot to mention that these days men are marrying for pleasure. Most second marriages these days don’t last because either the man is marrying for pleasure or to piss his first wife off. If you look at the majority of men who Denmark they don’t marry women with kids. Most men don’t even want a divorcee. They want a virgin for second wife. It is rare that men marry women who are supporting their kids and accept responsibility for the kids.

@cooljool1

2 жыл бұрын

they don't need to though.

@fazzland

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. That's true. Save widows kids bla bla is just a justification, but the real truth they married 2nd 3rd 4th only because of their lust and nafs.

I hate how women are shamed for not wanting to share their husband? Seriously polygyny is not obligatory, its just halal, it’s an option (if you want to ofc) so she is not doing anything wrong by not wanting it! Don’t ever let someone shame you for it. Why is the jealousy a husband has towards his wife honourable, yet a woman is being petty if she has any jealousy regarding the idea of the man she LOVES being with other women? And to men who want a poly lifestyle, how about you marry a woman that is okay with it from the start rather than ruining her life, and deceiving her by having secret wives and households. It’s incredibly selfish and cowardly, you want to have your cake and eat it too. Go ahead and marry other women, but give your first wife the option to leave you for it if she wants, you are not giving her that option by keeping it a secret.

@privatejr2702

2 жыл бұрын

the first paragraph tells me you didnt listen to the podcast in its entirety. As for the second paragraph, a lot of men wont know that they want/can handle having a second wife until they've had a first. I don't think a man has to take permission from his wife to have another one. Also its neither selfish or cowardly to take on more responsibility.

@naimam8212

2 жыл бұрын

@@privatejr2702 So you don’t think hiding such a big part of your life, that will influence her aswell is selfish? Lets say fine you hide the fact, that you married other women behind her back, because you don't want to face her anger. Now everytime you have to attend your other households you have to lie, you have to come up with an excuse to uphold the illusion, that she is the only one. Not to mention that what is done in the dark will come to light. It's just a matter of time before she finds out that you have been lying to her all along, and that confrontation you were fearing all along will be even worse, cause now you have deceived her. There is a higher chance of her leaving you now, because there is no trust, you violated her trust in you. Don’t you think that she will feel betrayed finding out after the fact that you were married for years behind her back? Do you seriously think she will trust you moving forward? It’s about respect! Why ruin or seriously damage your first marriage, in order to get another? This kind of “I don’t need to tell her” mentality just goes to show that most men don’t have the emotional intelligence to deal with one woman let alone 2,3 or 4 🙄 To the ladies if you aren't a fan of polygyny write it in your nikkah contract, that way if he ever tries you and pulls a stunt like that, you can leave with no hassle, and can keep the mahr too.

@mlindalina1

2 жыл бұрын

23:20 here is your response

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@naimam8212 or it could be the woman doesn't have emotional intelligence to be in polygyny, the answer to that is in the intro. There should be no hiding or leaving possibly, if you had a son and he was honest and did polygny and then the wife leaves and then comes back how would you fell?

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 bro she's not even covered forget about it 🤣🤣🤣

Exactly what's wrong in wanting the husband just for yourself?? Like I don't see anything wrong with those women who don't wanna be in a polygamious marriage! ? Yes it is permissible but it's not obligated and many forget that monogamy is also sunnah And yes marriage is about love and a romantic relationship you cannot have a family if you don't love your significant other!

My husband has three wives alhumdulilah. I was the first one. I never left his side when he was marrying again and till today he appreciates how i handled it. As a senior wife i have the responsibility of hold my husbands families together and not setting bad trends among the other wives. We all love each other for Allahs sake and we have a broader vision for our husband and the ummah and we keep our jealousies aside. My husbands wisdom in talking and dealing wd each wife and the communication that he does regarding the privacy of all wives also plays a major role.

@luhitadori

4 ай бұрын

May Allah bless you and your husband and you live happy in here and hereafter

@rahelztzion

2 ай бұрын

How did he handle each of you?? 🤣 which female with her children, will he put at front row to be persished if problem arrise....or which women with her children does he hide and protect...put last in a row?? He can say what ever he says to keep his desires...but i am telling u...the one who keep last is the one he love most!!the rest of you are a jock.

@sole008

Ай бұрын

@@rahelztzion your mouth is a trash can, do you know her ? her family ? how can you make assumption about someone else and in such a harsh way, have manner, you are clearly not a Muslim.

@kyoutasan3506

27 күн бұрын

Shhhhh shaytaan al-ens​@@rahelztzion

We live in the age of desires. The men who can handle polygyny according to Shariah are about as few as the men who pray fajr and eshaa in the masjid everyday. Sometimes it's best to leave even what's halal if the potential harm outweigh the good. The effects on the children are always forgotten. People no longer live in villiages with extended families so when the father has multiple wives, these kids are also experiencing a part time father who may or may not have the time to spend with them and be present for important milestones in their lives. Also, life is unpredictable, so whose going to care for the women in old age or if they develop health issues. Taking on plural wives is not about the benefits but also consider the trials and responsibility that comes with it especially in a society that isn't Muslim and not conducive to the success of such a lifestyle.

@mayeighteen2812

2 жыл бұрын

“The men who can handle polygyny according to Shariah are about as few as the men who pray Fajr and Eshaa in the masjid everyday.” Thank you for saying that. Only a man who can continuously face the discomfort and trouble of going to the masjid daily (let alone fajr and eshaa) can i really trust to faithfully handle the challenges of having multiple wives, families and in-laws, bc it shows his priority lies first in pleasing Allah and not his own desires. As with most things, people want the benefits without the responsibilities. It goes both ways. May Allah help us all, ameen.

@sophiesumleen7872

2 жыл бұрын

using ur logic let's cancel mahar and men speanding on der wives then as there are chances for women to work 🤨. Plus, Allah doesn't burden a soul beyond it's measure. So as polygyny is halal there are men who can practise it. If u don't want poly it is ur choice, but don't say biased things. Plus if u r speaking of leaving poly, then don't cry why divorcee n single mothers r not being able to get married.

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

how do you know men can't handle it ? get out of here

@hanzalaomar9915

2 жыл бұрын

@@mayeighteen2812 This is just not true. This is just making excuses. I live in Bangladesh and there's mosque everywhere and it won't be difficult for you to find a man that prays in mosque 5 times a day. But guess what polygyny is sometimes violently opposed here by some nisa and is least practiced.

@wagamama8

2 жыл бұрын

@@sophiesumleen7872 what a dumb comment. Mahar is an Islamic right, and men providing for women is their Islamic duty. Having 2,3,4 wives is not a RIGHT in Islam - it is permissible. Big difference.

Polygamy is permissable but not recommended. Ask anyone in such a marriage if it is ideal. The woman too has rights and it can be written in a marriage contract that she will divorce if the husband chooses to marry again. Nai'ma is talking about Zulu marriages. There is so much jealousy and hatred and envy in such marriages. Ex South African president Zuma went after the young ones and he married plenty.Hatred among those siblings. Lots of problems. The wives of prophet Muhammad SAW also had their issues. Today's men cannot be equal to all their wives. They fail miserably. Yes, there are some that really work but even the sheikhs who have more than one wife will confess that it comes with problems they never anticipated. . In Middle Eastern societies it is perhaps the norm. The Muslim couples do not get married in Western societies like old. Most marry for love. If you marry for financial security then this is not about happiness. You got to be physically attracted to the man. Second marriages ruins the first one. We cannot expect the first wife who was happily married to accept that she has to share her husband. It's heartbreaking. On the other hand, men need to grow up. A divorced woman with kids or a widow can be the best thing that could happen in your life. Now you get someone like Dr Shabir Ally who says women can also marry multiple husbands today because we have DNA tests etc. Anyway, off the topic but think twice before you making that decision to marry a second or third or fourth wife. Not so easy. A man that is happy with his first wife will not even look at another woman. We all have tests in life. If not getting married is one of them then remain chaste. Allah SWT has a beautiful reward awaiting you. Alhamdulillah. I know about too many polygamous marriages. No happy ending!

@mizgenius3363

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! Plus today the criteria to implement polygamy doesn’t even exist. One is supposed to use logic, science and religion. I swear they think they are living in a war zone. 😂

*Timestamps for Chapters:* 0:00 - Coming Up 1:15 - Intro 1:48 - Muslim space being Gynocentric 2:37 - Muslim women opposing Polygyny 4:00 - Benefits of Polygyny & reasons for Marriage 6:07 - Reasons for opposing Polygyny 7:40 - Monogamy vs Polygyny in modern societies 9:12 - Polygyny not being relevant today 10:31 - Mindset of young women and its problems ahead 12:48 - Things needed for making Polygyny viable 14:34 - Making Polygyny Hard 15:00 - Status of 2nd wife 16:06 - Using Seerah selfishly 16:46 - Feeding the Nafs 17:31 - Polygyny misconceptions 18:24 - Responsibility of the husband 19:12 - Islam vs Liberalism 20:18 - Bad relationship getting more coverage 21:30 - Polygyny from Non-Islamic perspective 22:05 - Problems of sisters being over marriageable age & refusing Polygyny 26:34 - Being worthy of marriage 27:17 - What everyone deserves 28:10 - Consequences of rejecting Polygyny 29:12 - Advice for Muslim Men 30:15 - Closing Statements 31:09 - Patreon Exclusive 32:51 - Outro SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️ Beautiful and Insightful Discussion _May Allah SWT guide the Ummah and accept your efforts._

@ArmanKhan-tx4gi

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. May Allah SWT bless you brother. Ameen.

@asadullahsaaid3794

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArmanKhan-tx4gi جَزاكَ اللهُ خَـيْراً

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@asadullahsaaid3794 Amin.

I’m gonna have to disagree with her. Don’t shame women who don’t want to be a in a polygamist marriage first off. A lot of married women don’t want their husband taking the responsibility of marrying another because she knows he can’t handle that!!! It’s not all about because they can and she’s being “ greedy” and not wanting to share. He has to be finically stable, no GOV help! The first wife and his family can’t just be surviving in this world they have to be THRIVING in all aspects.

@rokaiachilab5910

2 жыл бұрын

And also whats wrong with wanting your husband just for you? he is your partner, your lover. You share your entire being with them, how is it wrong to want him for yourself?

@faisa1156

2 жыл бұрын

@@Connect_with_Yourself 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Exactly

@cooljool1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Connect_with_Yourself women are more than happy to share top tier men

@malihajung6531

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you guys or gals

@hibatuadam2777

2 жыл бұрын

She is spitting facts. This is from the seerah. Like she said,this Dunya isnt for fulfilling pleasures.

Good points brother Rami. With all due respect to sister Naima, there's a lack of balance in some of her arguments. Can someone narrate any incident, hadith/seerah where sahabiyat offered other women their husbands, as I've not come across that before. In the previous video, she said red pill is a spectrum that can be useful because we need to take into account the times we live in etc. But when it comes to this polygyny discussion, there's a lack of consistency when it comes to discussing our current challenges as muslims in the West. Allah's law is perfect, but some Muslims do not implement things correctly. Every muslim knows polygyny is halal. It is halal as monogamy is halal. Whoever is able to practice polygyny can do so, and whoever cannot, should not do it. Polygyny is a man's right and his responsibility to make it happen. It is not a woman's responsibility to search for a wife for him or to be best buddies with the co wife. Feelings of jealousy and competitiveness is a natural part of the process. We are human after all. Denying that is unrealistic.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

Asalam ALeikum, are you a brother or sister? It's not a woman's duty but she can, its mentioned in Gabriel Romani's video & she was attacked, sadly many nisa are intimidated by good men due to feminism who are pushed by bank tax slavery system and want to put other system's men down! As for sahabiyat who offerred to marry their sister or someone else to either their husband who a companion or the Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings on him in a hadith if I recall, let me see if I can find it!

@Reem-ne7nn

2 жыл бұрын

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 I'm sorry your comment is incoherent to me. English might not be your first language, but there are many places you can easily learn good Grammer. All the best.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@Reem-ne7nn I forgive you for not being able to read my comment, forgive me as well, i did jumble up some stuff... & i forgive you if it made you forget return the Salam. It's in hadith it should be replied to with similar greeting if you don't know, you can look it up in hadith.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@Reem-ne7nn What I was saying is now due to feminism some women are intimidated by good men. I hope you not mad but I assume you are a girl! 2) - there is an example of a Sahabiyat offering her husband a wife : **Um Habiba: "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace & blessings be on him) Marry my sister,** the daughter of Abu Sufyan." He said, "Do you like that?" I said, "Yes, for even now I am not your only wife; and the most beloved person to share the good with me is my sister." The Prophet (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said, "But that is not lawful for me (i.e., to be married to two sisters at a time.)" I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him)! By Allah, we have heard that you want to marry Durra, the daughter of Abu Salama." He said, "You mean the daughter of Um Salama?" I said, "Yes." He said, "By Allah ! Even if she were not my stepdaughter, she would not be lawful for me to marry, for she is my foster niece, for Thuwaiba has suckled me and Abu Salama; so you should neither present your daughters, nor your sisters to me." - Sahih al-Bukhari 5107, Book of Nikah!

@Reem-ne7nn

2 жыл бұрын

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Waalaykum salam

This whole thing that men should/better to get into polygamy to avoid going into Haram relationship I don’t buy it. This is one of the least important reasons as to why man should marry a 2nd,3rd,4th wife! If the man is MARRIED and he wants to have his 2nd wife to avoid Haram, then he will have his 3rd wife to avoid haram, This type of man is the one like those men we see marrying for LUST, until they fulfill the 4 wives, then they divorce one to marry the 5th and they go on and on. In Arab world men do that, I know one who married more that 40 times!!!!! Which responsibility are you talking about when you advocating polygamy so men can direct their lust under so called Halal relationship! This very reason your mentioning (avoid Haram relationship) is the least important reason when you read about polygamy in the Islamic shari’ia and islamic literature. If it is about avoiding Haram relationship then what is the 1st wife is doing at his house?!! Isn’t she the one he chose in the first place to avoid Haram, fulfill his religion with and have kids with?

@ousmanejalloh7312

2 жыл бұрын

Why do people always try to negate the roghts of men but yell at the top of your lungs when a womens right is negated in islam

@user-tj3vj7lp5h

2 жыл бұрын

@@ousmanejalloh7312 well go talk with those ppl cuz am not them

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

@@ousmanejalloh7312 no amount of yelling will change the situation. let them scream into the void. the more they resist the more we do it 😂😂

@user-tj3vj7lp5h

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore if men get married as a reaction to an action then this is you giving us more evidences to not involve in a polygamy life as women, because women don’t just resist polygamy because they have been brain washed by Hollywood, they primarily and fundamentally resist it because of the type of men doing it, their fragile reasons behind it and their attitude within it. The more you see polygamous men ,you should be able to tell the world is collapsing more and more, cuz polygamy (in its islamic nature and under its rigid terms), should not be seen quiet often in one society unless that society has a collapsed system of morality and its religious power.

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-tj3vj7lp5h literally nobody cares what you think. If men want polygamy they can get it overseas and there's nothing you can do about it ? Wanna leave ? iight just leave the keys on your counter and close the door on your way out. in the time it takes you to pack and leave, you would've been replaced.

Polygamy practice should go hand in hand with marriage of divorced and widowed women with or without children. That way it will be fair. Women will have choices.

@mosakibabbas999

2 жыл бұрын

So is it haram for a man to marry a virgin as a second wife ?

@cupcake3215

2 жыл бұрын

@@mosakibabbas999 there was no mention of virgin being impermissible so idk why you are straw manning. Polygyny can’t be popularised if men only want virgins. Monogamy would only remain the norm. Surprise surprise there aren’t enough virgin women for every brother virgin or not to get 1 wife

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

@@cupcake3215 then dont divorce simple as that

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

@@cupcake3215 plus its not like there are that many widows so if we wxmen stopped going for divorce because they're "bOrEd" then men would probably think twice before looking at getting a second wife

@cupcake3215

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore nah if women didn’t divorce, men would still be looking idk why you think that would change anything. Besides I was being realistic most of theses guys Abu American, coach Nazir are married to women who where non virgins before marriage. If you want polygyny but only want virgins don’t be surprised if you end up staying monogamous. Most guys ik who practice it aren’t married to all virgins. I get you desire virgins but it’s being as unrealistic as single mom wanting monogamy.

There should be two women in this discussion . one for polygamy and not for polygamy . then it would have been far interesting. One woman and 3 guys nodding like noddys

@cooljool1

2 жыл бұрын

no need for another woman. the discussion was pretty good as it is

@flexnrex1367

8 ай бұрын

and thats how you stay in your own echo chamber where you only listen to people you agree with@@cooljool1

MashAllah! Jazakum Allahu Khiran for this beneficial discussion

be careful, shaytaan will use even the halal to lead you to haram. my advise to the young brothers in the west are to focus on pleasing Allah, being a good husband to your wife and fight your desires. In jannah you will have many hurul ayn so have sabr. polygyny is not like a buying a 2nd car. it can lead u to jahannam if u fail to be just to ur wives. the best of you are those who are best to the women. the sexual desires in marriage wanes and what at first is exciting will soon turn into responsibility and strife so fear Allah and do not follow your desires.

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

to all the youngins who are reading me, DO NOT TAKE HER ADVICE. Focus on yourself, your fitness, your religion AND your money and if you have the desire and the emotional intelligence to marry again ABSOLUTELY DO IT

@hamzamohamed2774

2 жыл бұрын

Terrible advice 😂

@Veiled_Ventures

Жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore 👍💐

@TheNiceOne_

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely right.

It would be nice in Western Society if it were possible but from what I am noticing, is that the married Muslim men who are looking for polygyny, start out by going for the hot young revert, form attachments and relationships covertly and ignore widows, divorcees, etc,. The passage in the quran regarding plural marriage seemed to be referring to how to treat widows and orphans justly. Also, they often leave the first wife lonely, after she built a life with her husband, only to find that the second wife is being treated better and taking resources she helped build with her husband. . Polygyny is not allowed if it is unequal. I am not in a polygynous marriage and I would find it very difficult to adjust to Polygyny if those criteria are not met and probably if they were because, I am in love with my husband.

@lisaannlundun

2 жыл бұрын

I am a revert in western society and what you are saying is true. I come across men who pretend they aren't married but who are looking for a second wife and lying to both women.

@ahmedwedyan171

2 жыл бұрын

I am also a revert. When I married my husband I didn't know anything about Islam. He was from another country and it was definitely a love marriage. I would definitely have to be a better person to have another person enter the picture. That being said, my friends many people walked away from me when I reverted and married a poor but cute man from another country. We have kids now and Alhumdillah things are going well as they are. If you do marry someone and want plurality now or down the line, I think it can work if all of the members of the family are well informed. I'm just not there yet. And I think women should not be shamed for knowing themselves and their limitations. Inshallah we make up for it in other ways.

@ahmedwedyan171

2 жыл бұрын

You can also not necessarily be the one to fix anothers mistakes. If western women passed up good men because they wanted to have a career or the man didn't make money enough for them, it seems they may find it convenient to look inside your marriage when you have married him, helped him build a successful business etc,. The man you married when he had nothing versus the man you are married to now, ten years down the line, may be more attractive based on the love and care you provided. How is this just? In the best of all worlds we try to be just. Even the Quran says Allah created us in pairs. It seems to me that polygyny was a provision allowed in extraneous circumstances, such as war. If not why wouldn't scoop up all the women who are attracted? To consistently place value on women in such a way as to only value a woman's looks or youth is not Islamic. Women have much more complexity than that, and yet we have women such as the sister here saying what do these women offer? We are not selling ourselves into slavery. In a war I probably would consider the possibility of another wife if the circumstance permitted. But ask yourself, before you make that decision, is someone trying to be in a plural marriage because a particular man is handsome and well off, versus leaving single men in the masjid who may need work, the same work the first wife put into her husband, is it possible that its not only a question of giving a man all the responsibility he can handle, or giving a man who also has no one a chance?

@lisaannlundun

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahmedwedyan171 I completely agree with you. [Quran 4:129] You will not be able to treat women with equal fairness, no matter how much you desire it. But do not be so biased as to leave another suspended. If you make amends, and act righteously-God is Forgiving and Merciful. I believe it's a test to man's arrogance. Yes you can have up to 4 wives if you can treat them equally or fairly...but then you never will be able to so you learn and grow (well hope fully Insh'Allah). Everyone's path is not the same and to generalize and judge others is not right. Allah knows what is in our hearts and that is the only judgment I care about.

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisaannlundun the verse you quoted is talking about emotional attachments to all women equally, that doesn't exclude the fact that the husband can allocate equal time and attention to each.

There is an Egyptian Imam called Mohammed Abdou, he literally wrote that once a person see polygamy SPREAD in the society, a person can tell that that society is damaged in terms of lots of other things like the spread of rubbery, violence, and he counted other examples. WHY? He said because POLYGAMY is never ever an easy way to live a life, not under its rigid and serious terms and the very high qualifications need to be found in the man, so according to that, if it ever happened that polygamy is spread here and there in one society you can know that lots of unqualified men, who are marrying for the wrong reasons are the ones who made it spread, and for such things to be allowed and accepted by that society it means that society is damaged in other parts that they don’t have the time or the tools to control marriages. Polygamy is not the original in the marriage in the eye of sharia’a. It is always the monogamy that is the original. Reasons that make the man take the other path are few, and it’s not suitable for every man, only few chosen one can.

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

didn't expect less coming from these people ... 6 days and they were on their knees begging haha

@user-tj3vj7lp5h

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore not sure if I’m following what you’re saying

@MrTruthAndFacts

Жыл бұрын

Polygamy was widespread in the time of the Prophet PBUH and the times that follow that period. Yet, they were the best of the best? Polygamy is needed for numerous reasons

@user-tj3vj7lp5h

Жыл бұрын

@@MrTruthAndFacts plygamy is needed for numerous reasons because in the history of the prophet and his follower they did it? I don't see how is that relatable to you. But whatever.

@kareemsvlog5590

Жыл бұрын

Why didn’t he look at the other side of the matter where qualified men going after women that are prohibited for them which could have been prevented by polygamy

I am Muslim and raised in a polygamous society and in a polygamous household. I don’t want to be in a polygamous marriage because of my experience of seeing how polygamy has been practiced in a very un-Islamic way. It is not because monogamy has been an outside thing ingrained in my brain; it is because of the bad polygamy I had seen all around me.

@abu-7854

2 жыл бұрын

Islaam is perfect muslims are not. Dont blame polygyny because they didnt give a good example.

@namalengkap4781

Жыл бұрын

I do agree

@civildiscourse7626

Жыл бұрын

That’s like when apostates say, I left islam because of the Muslims around me… it’s silly. Or what about not wanting to get married at all bevause you witnessed a bad monogamous marriage from your parents? It’s silly

@sc00119

Жыл бұрын

That’s because polygamy IS bad. As simple as that. It just tortures your mind and takes away any peace you have. It’s horrible for the wives of course but also children. They might suffer the most. And what do you mean it was not done the right way? It can’t be done the right way because there is no right way. This practice can’t work and those who say it works well they are lying to themselves especially the wives or at least one of them. A man can’t love 2 women equally but again that’s what the woman in the video is saying: “don’t believe in these horrible disney movies they are brainwashing you because there is no such thing as love” I actually feel sorry for her

@civildiscourse7626

Жыл бұрын

@@sc00119 if polygyny was bad God would have said that.

Polygamy should be taken from the angle of individuality, the character, the circumstances of the individual man and his wife. Polygamy should NOT be taken from the angle of society, it is not a solution for a social phenomenon, like the sexualization of almost every thing around our life , in the media, in tv shows, in the streets advertisements, in the spread of immortality, and fornication and the easy access to it, all these are social problems that has to be faced by other methods, like strengthening the mind and soul and faith. Had those social problems been faced/treated by giving men the polygamy card, it will be nothing but a disaster in the communities , and the families. we need to understand this significant part about polygamy in Islam before we advocate for it publicly.

@zaidhernandez4601

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there needs to be another problem solved first

@mogamadRSA

6 ай бұрын

Bismillah algamdullilah. I am from Cape Town. South Africa. I thank you all for your courage.jazaakallah hu ghair. Jihad changes status quo. Jihad makes it easier to own a house and provide for your family inshaa a Allah. Jihad brings justice to everybody inshaa a Allah

Interesting; however Naima claimed her late husband was a successful man in dounya & deen, so where are her co-wives? Why didn’t she encourage her late husband to step up & take responsibility for another sister? & Why did she struggle personally with polygyny? It’s all well & good preaching but where’s the practice?

@bigboywasim

2 жыл бұрын

How you know she didn’t ? Not every man wants to even if he has the opportunity to.

@deepthinker3939

2 жыл бұрын

If you read From My Sisters Lips, her book she told her husband to marry another sister. Only respect for Sister Naima.

@abdurrahmanu

2 жыл бұрын

what if her husband know he can't do justice?

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

I like the replies to the assumptions. May Allah guide us to be sincere and not jealous except in the halal!

@fazzland

Жыл бұрын

This lady, Naima is nonsense. Even Prophet saw daughter didn't wish didn't hope didn't want other woman in her marriage. Lol. Shall we blame Fatimah ra too?? Was Fatimah ra watched too much Disney too ??? If you can accept and want it so much, carry on Naima do not force it onto others. Marriage is not based on LOVE? Yes you are talking pure nonsense and just like heartless robot 🤖. Naima is forcing and uttering all these nonsense after her husband died and she desperately wanted another husband. If not, why you were not encouraging and advocating polygyny since your first marriage previously??? So, as the conclusion someone can only reasoning and accepting something after misery that happened in their life. Only then you think about oh poor all these single 30-40yo sisters who had not yet married. Where are all these logics when you were with your previous late husband? Or on that moment you were still believing in Disney love stories? In addition to that, another 5 years you're reaching menopause. That's why you just don't care. Your kids are not current husband kids and are becoming adults. At your current situation all you need is just part time husband and more time for your ME TIME. Pity those women with very small little kids that still needs A LOT OF THEIR DADDY'S ATTENTIONS, TIME AND BONDING. There must be very much different kids who are engaging everyday with their father or only 1-2 days only can meet their father! Didn't i talk about little kids do TANTRUMS? Imagining having to face tantrums, tiring days with chores, etc while a husband and dad leave everything to you to face alone and go f**kin other wife happily while you are struggling alone at home with little challenging kids. For me better if I'm facing everything alone, real ALONE than having this kind of relationship. Marriage is not all about F**Kin and Breeding like cats. And once again LOVE, COMPASSION AND EMPATHY are important in a MARRIAGE. What a selfish lady.

If you want to do polygamy that's fine, but don't burden woman that can not take it, and make them feel like they are in the wrong because they are too "self centered" and stuff. Before mariage the man and the woman should talk about it, and the woman have the right to put it on the mariage contract. So if men want to, fine, but don't force it upon women, instead find someone that agrees on that lifestyle. Finally, the man cannot marry a second wife if the first one doesn't agree, and if he's not pleased by that so he commits sin, the woman has the right to divorce him, and not get shamed because she's, again, too "self centered".

The general rule in Islam is monogamy not polygamy. The Qur’an says what means: *{Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one.}* (An-Nisaa’ 3:3) Yet the same verse points out: *{Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women}* (Al-Nisaa’ 3:129) Therefore polygamy is not a rule but an exception. Polygamy in Islam is not recommended; it is only permitted under certain guidelines. Permission to practice polygamy is not associated with mere satisfaction of passion. It is, rather, associated with compassion toward widows and orphans. Prophet Mohammed pbuh, remained single until age 25.From age 25 to 50 he was faithful to only one wife, Khadijah, who bore all his children except one. She was 15 years older than him, with children from two previous marriages. She was his greatest ally when he received the Call at age 40 until she died when he was 50 years old. He remained in love with her until he died and often talked of his life with her with great nostalgia. ( So by that, marrying for love is absolutely NOT a “Hollywood fairytale”!) Between ages 50 and 52 he remained unmarried and mourning his late beloved wife. He lived alone with his daughters. Between ages 53 and 60 he married all his other wives for many noble reasons Muhammad pbuh, the man who needed a loving wife, children, and a stable home, married Khadijah and remained with only her for 20 years until she died. He married his other wives for reasons pertaining to his duty to deliver the Message to the world. Those particular women were carefully selected, not just haphazardly “acquired” for carnal reasons, as suggested.

The argument that wanting a husband to yourself is a social construct is a silly argument, marriage itself is a social construct. Polygamy is made by Allah for dire scenarios, when the ayah came down about polygamy, it was during the time of back to back battles for the Muslims. In the Quran, Allah says that if you cannot treat them fairly, then do not have several wives, and later in the Quran, Allah says you will NEVER be able to deal with them justly. So it is obvious that it is not meant for EVERYONE and for every time. In the Quran Allah says "If you cannot deal justly with the orphans", THEN to marry more women. Some scholars argue that this regards to welfare and society not being able to justly care for them. Next, her saying that a man marrying another woman is more responsibility is true,I know brothers with two wives who hardly have time to feed themselves, however, you must acknowledge difficulty for a woman as well; have half the time with her husband, half the attention, etc. 15:39, it is a woman's Islamic right to not want her husband to have another marriage, so if he cheats on her regardless, he IS cheating, and he IS in the wrong. Our whole society is individualistic, the notion that everyone should have their own phones, their own laptops, their own rooms, their own closets, their own cars, etc. Why is it at marriage that you stop and question this? And why is it evil to you? Societies are forever changing, and Allah knows this, he says "Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you". Allah created Islam knowing everything that we now know and could never know, so why do you think that Allah didn't make polygamy mandatory, or even push it to the Muslims? Not to mention the legality of it, it is illegal in the US and many countries to have another wive. It is haram to break the law in Islam, so you'd have to leave the country. Also regarding that older woman who didn't want a polygamous relationship, if she had gone through with it, she would have been depressed and would end up getting divorced again. Polygamy is not for everyone and you coming on here telling her not to complain about being single bc she didn't want to be in a polygamous relationship is wrong. People want what they want, and frankly, it's better to be single that to spend the rest of your life in an unhappy marriage. The argument about being "worthy" of a man to yourself is a joke, as a man are you worthy of several women? No one can be the judge of someone else except for Allah, who are you to say whether someone deserves something or not? My mother was 47 and had three kids when she found a wonderful husband that loves her mA, and she deserves everything she has and has worked so hard in her life.

@hanzalaomar9915

2 жыл бұрын

Your second para is wrong. The verse you're referring to actually confirms equality or absolute just is not a requirement for polygyny because it's impossible but what isn't permissible is "leaning (heavily) towards one while leaving the other hanging" That verse actually makes it easier for men to pursue polygyny not the other way around.

@hakunamatata3935

Жыл бұрын

Very well said

Sister, unfortunately men only want more young , beautifull and virgin women as a second , third or fourth wife. that's the thing what makes the first wife insecure and hurt, ok? so if men really have the intention to take responsibility they should go for divorcees or widows even if they have children). in that case there might be chance that the first wife is supporting this idea, ok? but there are nowadays youtube videos were men are even adviced to avoid divorcees and specially with children because they bring baggage? the truth is, most men have not the right intention . They do it for their personal Lust which is never ending. Here I have no respect for the men,, after all the first wife can also not go around and find younger men, so men should stay fair and not hurt their first wifes and bring logic with who and why they would like to take as a secind wif,e, if there is love, affair or attarction involved and becomes the reason for the second marriage then the first wife will never be happy about it, do what you want then. she most probably leaves and she has the right then to do that.. ALLAH will judge men for their intentions as well,,,, many men get married second wife and forget the first one,, make her feel neglected or just get married for Lust,, leave them after few months, give no rights and do ti all over again... that's why women are scared,, many men are controlling.. they think they can do everything and if they have no understanding with first wife they can have an other and find happiness there,, where shall the first women go then to find peace? there are many problems and not many men can handle this responsibility with justice,,, also not every women is able to handle this poligamy ,, every women is different and emotionally attached in different ways to their husband,, and it is normal to avoid and to hate it and to be jelous,, you can't change the nature of women,, you shouldn't shame women for that if they get psygological problems after that. and if the first is not ready and the men still does it then the second will be blamed for home breaking etc....Issa laihi salaam's mother "Mariam" was also never married,, so a women has a choice as well.. if marriage works for her she will do, otherwise not,, mental peace is most important,,, a men also want his wife only to himself,, so is a women made naturally, ok? nobody can make her guilty for that. it is the men's duty to handle her emotionally if she is hurt.. and all this is making women again vulnurable by saying that sisters need to do something just for the sake of marriage.. it should be for the sake of emotional and mental peace .. but women alsi have financial reasons why they get married and might not be really in love with that men? then the first wife might be less jelous as well,,but a men must never make feel a women be it first or second feel anything less loved,, specially the first wife should get even more love after his second marriage so that she doesn't think that now she lost her husbands love

@Sam-ex3rd

2 жыл бұрын

you are absolutely right

@cooljool1

2 жыл бұрын

responsibility can be done in many ways. i dont need to go running after widows and single mothers. and single mothers are very unattractive options

@emma647

Жыл бұрын

a divorcee could be 18 or even 60 years old, people talk about divorcees as if they are all 50 plus

@3ayaa6_

3 ай бұрын

Well said 👏🏻

could I just remind you that the Prophet's(saw) daughters (ra) none of them were in a polygamous relationship He (saw) said, what would hurt them would hurt him (saw) and he was referring in particular to Fatima and Ali, (ra) and Ali out of respect for the Prophet (saw) he did not take another wife while he was married to Fatima(ra) anyone can talk but the reality is different I've heard this very same sister talk against brothers taking on another wife, so what's changed..?

@rainnyfall2097

Жыл бұрын

THIS! Before the polygamous marriage was a Sunnah, Rasulullah (saw) did not marry any other women other than Khadijah (ra). It only happens after her death. Everytime her name was mentioned, Rasulullah (saw) would get emotional. Same goes to Fatimah (ra). She herself doesn't want to get involved into polygamous marriage. But as far as I know, anything that Allah allows has wisdom behind it. If you steer in the wrong direction, then it'll lead you to the anger of Allah. Jazakallah khair for your reminder btw👍

@fazzland

Жыл бұрын

This lady, Naima is nonsense. Even Prophet saw daughter didn't wish didn't hope didn't want other woman in her marriage. Lol. Shall we blame Fatimah ra too?? Was Fatimah ra watched too much Disney too ??? If you can accept and want it so much, carry on Naima do not force it onto others. Marriage is not based on LOVE? Yes you are talking pure nonsense and just like heartless robot 🤖. Naima is forcing and uttering all these nonsense after her husband died and she desperately wanted another husband. If not, why you were not encouraging and advocating polygyny since your first marriage previously??? So, as the conclusion someone can only reasoning and accepting something after misery that happened in their life. Only then you think about oh poor all these single 30-40yo sisters who had not yet married. Where are all these logics when you were with your previous late husband? Or on that moment you were still believing in Disney love stories? In addition to that, another 5 years you're reaching menopause. That's why you just don't care. Your kids are not current husband kids and are becoming adults. At your current situation all you need is just part time husband and more time for your ME TIME. Pity those women with very small little kids that still needs A LOT OF THEIR DADDY'S ATTENTIONS, TIME AND BONDING. There must be very much different kids who are engaging everyday with their father or only 1-2 days only can meet their father! Didn't i talk about little kids do TANTRUMS? Imagining having to face tantrums, tiring days with chores, etc while a husband and dad leave everything to you to face alone and go f**kin other wife happily while you are struggling alone at home with little challenging kids. For me better if I'm facing everything alone, real ALONE than having this kind of relationship. Marriage is not all about F**Kin and Breeding like cats. And once again LOVE, COMPASSION AND EMPATHY are important in a MARRIAGE. What a selfish lady.

I was against polygamy for yearssss, but you all have opened my heart to it. I will say that there needs to be more emphasis on the requirements that a man must acquire before getting another wife. There needs to be a whole video dedicated to it instead of just a highlight. We need to hold men accountable just as we do for women when it comes to doing things properly.

@serenitybysaf

2 жыл бұрын

i totally agree !

@AK-go7sh

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@hereweare9096

2 жыл бұрын

Also they need to highlight that polygamy can ONLY be practised in countries that allow it. In many countries marriage is only for a couple. No additional wives. The laws of countries need to be followed.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@hereweare9096 No they really don't, marriage has levels, Man can have more then one wife with the true laws of Allah which is good for everyone and the govt doesn't need to get involved as they don't really have any say in that matter as long as ppl don't want to get them involved!

@hereweare9096

2 жыл бұрын

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 If you believe that then you need to live in a country which allows polygamy. Otherwise you are going against Islam as doesn’t it say to obey the law of the land?

if a man wants more than one wife you must tell her when in the talking stage. if she refuses and she had the right to refuse to go to a woman that is ok with it. women can refuse we need to stop this. and in this society, unless you are top 1% can't afford more than one wife and provide everything that a man should in today's society it's more of a sex thing that a man's dream is to have multiple wives to fulfill his sex drive. advise the woman to make sure to ask him if he wants more wives and if he says no PUT IT IN THE CONTRACT.

*" People did not leave anything from God’s command except that God made them need it, and they suffered and did not find a way except by returning to it. "* 📖

@m.s20

2 жыл бұрын

Where is this quote from?

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@m.s20 Its beautiful and I think its based on Surah 30 : 41 - Evil has come in land and sea and they taste a portion of their evil to return to their Lord, paraphrasing...

She explained it so well and brought everything to a clear point ma shaa Allah! Barakallahu feekoum for this video ✨

@unknownukhti2418

2 жыл бұрын

@@axela4606 I see you comment this everywhere but with all due respect if Allah (swt) made polygamy halal for a man, who are we to comment if someone should practice it or not. We should encourage what is halal and Allah made it halal

@turkishsalafi9819

2 жыл бұрын

@@axela4606 dayooth.

@lilmama8718

7 ай бұрын

LOL she said its a social construct that your husband is yours??? Lmao then is it a construct that a woman is somones wife too?? She literally has very bad logic sorry

I undestand that having four wifes is allowed in islam and I love how the podcast has evolved.but why have the3muslim podcast made it so, if a sister dont want that for herself that for some (weird reason)😅 is a red flag when it comes to marrige. This channel has litterary made the sisters choice haraam, if Allah has given her a choice to not take part in poligyni, then dont make it seem she has low iman or has gone astray from the deen.

@naibgulam2336

2 жыл бұрын

It's not really her choice. She can stipulate this in her marriage contract, I agree. However, it seems ALL women today jump to putting that condition in their contract. So, if all our believing women today are against it then that's where the problem is. To me it looks like widespread reformulation of our womanfolk to indirectly change what Allah s.w.t has made a right upon the men. You see, this is exactly what happened to Christianity. They adopted widespread monogamy but the religion fell, and prophet Mohammed peace be upon him came to remind people of the true message. Woman as a whole can indeed push Islam in that direction, but this will only hurt them as sister Naima points out and maybe Allah s.w.t might ask you why did you not allow your husband to have second wife when he could have propagated the message of Islam with more descendants. Sister, your only answer would be that indeed I was a selfish and following my nafs and pushing the agenda of liberalism/feminism instead of your religion of: Islam.

@Ya39oub_G

2 жыл бұрын

@@nuzaira06 I don't know about other countries but in my country if a man married for the 2nd time or more he doesn't hide it you know why?! Because we have more than 10 million women who passed the marriage age without a husband. And it will come a time that for every man there is 50 women like the prophet said. The problems have already started right now.

@nuzaira06

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ya39oub_G oh thats so sad. Anyways im talking abt southeast nations (where im from), its pretty much less than 5% . However ik in nigeria , polygamy is relatively practiced more openly.

@Ya39oub_G

2 жыл бұрын

In my country women don't refuse polygamy like they used to before, the only thing that prevent men from it is the economy is in bad state.

@Ya39oub_G

2 жыл бұрын

@@nuzaira06 I'm in an arab country and women opinion about it is changing

This is surely a spoof? I can’t believe someone is spouting such rubbish. Stop throwing your ‘sisters’ under the bus and justifying men’s abusive practises to control and dominate wives. Shame on you.

@M_A_R_K_23

Жыл бұрын

Lol she’s a pick me

Maa Shaa Allah. Jazakumullahu Khairan. All of you.

About what she said ,the divorcee mother with 2 kids and refused a man because she isn't into polygamy. Well, because she's a single mother she must accept polygamy for herself?? Every woman knows what she's able to put up with ,and knows her priorities ,values ,goals etc. Some are for polygamy ,some aren't. Polygamy is a free choice for both the woman, and the man. The woman may or may not thrive with a Cowife ,or the man may or may not thrive with 2 or three wives. Hence why Allah said "then if you fear injustice ,then marry only one ". And marriage in secret is terrible wrong. Men are not trained ro deal even with one woman and her needs ,leave alone 2,like his mom and wife ,plus daughter ! Leave alone polygamy

Well another woman better not look at my husband! Marriage is not a fard! So maybe that's a test on their faith like a woman who remains childless! Ridiculous arguments used. Sorry there are very few men who don't do it for lust!

@axxiii8337

2 жыл бұрын

Well, frankly speaking if he wanted that and he's capable of taking that responsibility, its his God given right to do so and you have little to say about it. It is not your position to stop him unless you took a legit promise from him not to do so.

sister Na ima MashaAllah seriously I'm with you!

I was talking to a sister and her family about marriage. We are both Doctors in the United States. She said she is not financially responsible for any household expenses islamically. She also stated additional expenses: vacations, dining out, nanny care, etc are all my responsibility. She wanted a minimum 3 carat diamond ring. The family wanted $100,000 US dollars for mahr.

@muhammadmafaz8530

2 жыл бұрын

Brother if she really wants you she won't demand such things. Try to find someone simple and like you.

@cleartrueblue66

2 жыл бұрын

But you're a doctor you can afford that right??

@muhammadmafaz8530

2 жыл бұрын

You may like her but she doesn't because if she likes you she won't ask such big amount

@bigboywasim

2 жыл бұрын

@@cleartrueblue66 That is a lot for a doctor too. He might be still paying off his loan if he got one. She is asking above her religious right.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadmafaz8530 exactly, women make thing easy for men they like... i havent seen a descent nisa ask for a high mahr!

Subhanallahi wa bihamdihi. Thank you brother and sister for this powerful reminders.May Allah safeguard of you

😂😂😂 wow! It’s like take it or leave it no choice 🤦🏽‍♀️ Ofc we can manifest what we want

Lol it has nothing to do with Hollywood or Disney. People are living like this for centuries if not forever. It’s the most normal thing ever.

@fazzland

Жыл бұрын

This lady, Naima is nonsense. Even Prophet saw daughter didn't wish didn't hope didn't want other woman in her marriage. Lol. Shall we blame Fatimah ra too?? Was Fatimah ra watched too much Disney too ??? If you can accept and want it so much, carry on Naima do not force it onto others. Marriage is not based on LOVE? Yes you are talking pure nonsense and just like heartless robot 🤖. Naima is forcing and uttering all these nonsense after her husband died and she desperately wanted another husband. If not, why you were not encouraging and advocating polygyny since your first marriage previously??? So, as the conclusion someone can only reasoning and accepting something after misery that happened in their life. Only then you think about oh poor all these single 30-40yo sisters who had not yet married. Where are all these logics when you were with your previous late husband? Or on that moment you were still believing in Disney love stories? In addition to that, another 5 years you're reaching menopause. That's why you just don't care. Your kids are not current husband kids and are becoming adults. At your current situation all you need is just part time husband and more time for your ME TIME. Pity those women with very small little kids that still needs A LOT OF THEIR DADDY'S ATTENTIONS, TIME AND BONDING. There must be very much different kids who are engaging everyday with their father or only 1-2 days only can meet their father! Didn't i talk about little kids do TANTRUMS? Imagining having to face tantrums, tiring days with chores, etc while a husband and dad leave everything to you to face alone and go f**kin other wife happily while you are struggling alone at home with little challenging kids. For me better if I'm facing everything alone, real ALONE than having this kind of relationship. Marriage is not all about F**Kin and Breeding like cats. And once again LOVE, COMPASSION AND EMPATHY are important in a MARRIAGE. What a selfish lady.

This Incredible- the beginning was just way TOO powerful; changed my whole perspective of polygamy!!! Thank You!!!

Hello I just want to respectfully say that one brother misquoted the surah. There is only one verse that justifies polygyny and it is Surah 4:An Nisa' 2-3. The verse says IF you feel you cannot deal justly with orphans then marry women of your choice, up to 4, but if you cannot deal justly with the women then only one. And then it goes on to say that if you can't deal justly with multiple wives it's better to take slaves (that your right hand possesses) than wives who are treated unequally. So the only time men are given permission to have multiple wives is as INCENTIVE to provide for orphans. It implies that God prefers you just simply provide for orphans with no reward, just because it's a good thing to do. But if you can't deal justly with the orphans, you can marry one of their mothers, and in exchange for marital acts with her, you have to care for orphans. The verse literally says "if you cannot deal justly with the orphans take multiple wives." There is no other context where it's allowed. Sorry, but believe what you want to believe at your own peril. Read the surah I provided, do your own research. But a man who for instance thinks his wife is getting old and takes a younger, childless wife as many brothers want to do, is not sanctioned by the only verse that addresses polygyny. It's only if the only way you will take care of orphans is by marrying and getting to have sex with their mothers. It's not the ideal. But do your own research, don't just trust me. 🤔

May Allah reward all of you

Bless the sister

My genuine question is: Do the men interested in polygyny want to marry a second wife that has been divorced? Or that is over 30? That already has kids? Listening to this discussion I’ve actually changed my mind. Allahumma Barik sister Naima. But I’m genuinly wondering about this part of the equation. Because I’ve heard brothers talk about using their option to marry another wife in regards to temptation, or feeling less attraction the the first one. Wich is a halal reason and within their rights. But basically wanting to marry a younger woman. It’s very obvious that there’s multiple benefits for women and children, but the women who really need to be involved in polygyny aren’t they the women who are ”outcasts” ? Atleast that’s what I’m understanding from sister Naima, that it’s selfish for the first wife to keep her husband from women who NEED one. As she said in the start it’s easy for young women to say they don’t need a man. But do our brothers that have the means for polygyny the will to marry women for the benefit of our Ummah? The women who have been divorced, the women that aren’t so young anymore, the women with children, the women that can’t have any? Perhaps my interactions with this topic have been skewed, but it seems that the second wives are younger, ”fresher”. If we are going to talk about this as something that is beneficial for society, it’s clear that the benefits are highly lacking if there’s an accumulation if young wives in a polygynys situation. Instead of taking a woman under your wing that may not be able to marry a single man in the first place. If the brothers can step up and take on such a righteous duty, of helping a woman in need of a man, then may Allah SWT have mercy on these men and bless them for their efforts. Imagine being an older widow and a man married you instead of a young wife, because he understands his role and is ready to help his sister in Islam, and his Ummah. Beautiful!

@tarek399

2 жыл бұрын

The biggest issues a man faces when considering divorcee women are: 1. emotional and psychological trauma and baggage. 2. children from previous marriage will make things complicated. 3. previous divorce may signal incapability of problem resolution and inclination to quit.

@sanajarrar6993

2 жыл бұрын

@@tarek399 My point exactly lol. But the matter here is about the benefit of our Ummah. We need to help eachother out. We need brothers who want to marry multiple wives who NEED them. Not just all for pleasure. I feel like that’s what this debate boiled down to. How polygyny is good for society.

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

oh yeah the infamous argument of "stepping up" ... Men don't have to pick widows or divorcees. If some want to play saviours great but lets not shame men who want the "fresher product" as you describe it

@sanajarrar6993

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore I was not shaming. It is halal as I mentioned. Since the conversation was based around the greater benefit for society this is a very important aspect to talk about, hence me brining it up. Have a nice day

@sanajarrar6993

2 жыл бұрын

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So, when Muhammed SAW refused to allow Ali RA to remarry was wrong. He said his reasoning was that it would hurt Fatima RA and therefore it would also hurt her father, none other than Muhamed SAW?

@mufida_zuhra

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sad they didn't bring this point. As if picking whatever suits their interest and disregard the rest

@axxiii8337

2 жыл бұрын

It'll hurt his daughter but its ok for him to practice it, and hurt other's daughters, what kinda logic is that. The reason he rejected that is because of the "Person" who Ali RA was thinking of marrying, i.e. the daughter of Abu Jahl, the biggest enemy of islam. The prophet PBUH said, I'll never allow the daughter of the prophet and the daughter of Abu Jahl to lie in the same house. Read about it and educate yourself more before you make halal things haram. The reason it was not mentioned, was because it is completely irrelevant to the subject.

@mufida_zuhra

2 жыл бұрын

@@axxiii8337 are you aware that polygamy is not fardh? With your logic it sounds like polygamy is fardh. Be careful brother.

@mufida_zuhra

2 жыл бұрын

@@axxiii8337 you cannot conclude the prophet logic as you wish, islam has fatwa, ijma, etc. The ulema have agreed that the implications of this was that it is allowed for women to not want polygamy. Next time please refer to the scholars intead of interpreting the religion as you wish.

@shelmmii9425

2 жыл бұрын

@@mufida_zuhra most people who are big advocates about everyone participating in polygamy usually leave out big key points and hadiths that could give individuals the choice to choose whether polygamy is right for them or not. They want everyone to do it. When I reality it should be a case by case situation. Hence why it's not fard. If it was then we wouldn't be having this argument would we?

This woman is impossible....she should read seerah of wives of prophet..how jealous and competitive they were with each other..but they accepted the situation...as it was from Allah Swt..but acceptance is NOT happiness...

Alhamdulillah sister you are so wise....sister from Finland😇😇😇

in the countries where there used to be a lot of polygamy, men were unfair to their wives. That's why polygamy is dying out. I'm not against polyg.but the man should know what a big responsibility that is. No matter what video is good👍

I don't have a problem with polygamy. This sentiment predates my reversion because there are so many men who don't seem to be able to bond with one woman. I've grown up seeing divorce and adultery abound. As an adult, adultery was the norm. Scientifically, there are studies that show that SOME men are biologically predispositioned towards polygamy. Based on my understanding of Senegal, woman has to agree or disagree to polygamy when they present for a marriage license. I think it's a good thing because everyone is in the know. The only thing with which I don't agree with is the American version of polygamy in which a broke man has a bunch of women living in the same house and sharing the same bed, all the while claiming a religious justification for it.

i love u sister Naima (am a sister)but no sahabiyat or wife of the prophet pbuh was ok or not hurt when their husband or prophet pbuh took another wife and they never used to stay together in one house never ever ,i am in my late 20's virgin and i will happily remain unmarried rather then entering into a polygamous marriage never ever i will die rather then choosing that option but i really respect ur opinion and i pray to Allah to bless u and all ur loved ones and grant highest rank in highest rank in hereafter and this world ameen

@khalidmohamud1537

2 жыл бұрын

*Um Habiba: "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace & blessings be on him) Marry my sister,* the daughter of Abu Sufyan." He said, "Do you like that?" I said, "Yes, for even now I am not your only wife; and the most beloved person to share the good with me is my sister." The Prophet (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said, "But that is not lawful for me (i.e., to be married to two sisters at a time.)" I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him)! By Allah, we have heard that you want to marry Durra, the daughter of Abu Salama." He said, "You mean the daughter of Um Salama?" I said, "Yes." He said, "By Allah ! Even if she were not my stepdaughter, she would not be lawful for me to marry, for she is my foster niece, for Thuwaiba has suckled me and Abu Salama; so you should neither present your daughters, nor your sisters to me." - Sahih al-Bukhari 5107, Book of Nikah!

@khalidmohamud1537

2 жыл бұрын

You see how western society has brainwashed you to the point where you think death is better than something Allah made halal with his infinite wisdom and knowledge

@bestairdrops858

2 жыл бұрын

@@khalidmohamud1537 absolutely no nothing to do with modern society,but has everything to do with how God created us human being ,even at the time of prophet pbuh it was something detested,(although no one doubted it being halal) if u read seerah of the wives of prophet pbuh U will clearly see they didn't like it although it was a norm and prophet pbuh didn't like it for his (pbuh) daughter fatima as well,and disliking is not haram but questioning it and not believing its legality is

@khalidmohamud1537

Жыл бұрын

@@bestairdrops858 saying you would rather die definitely seems like ur questioning its legality

SubhanaAllah ....well said .and spoken ..this is a Muslim who understand her Deen ( Islam -and Shariah law } to the maximum ..l❤️💯

Jazak Allahu Kairan Na'ima you've helped me fight the side of me that kept creeping to oppose polygyny , Emotional detachment and using Emaan seeking the reward of the AfterLife

Really love this podcast.

No offence but the woman was talking absolute nonsense . It seems like she personally has not read the Quran and fully understood it yet because if she had she would’ve understood that polygamy is a choice and just because it is legal/halal doesn’t mean it should be done Now looking at the context and time of when the Quran was made there was high levels of sexism and discrimination against women. This then caused women not being allowed to work and there were also harsh stereotypes against men , meaning that men had to go to war and fight for their countries which lead to a decrease in men which caused there to be more women than men the main reason why polygamy was allowed was because women needed to be under the protection and financial protection of a man because they couldn’t have any income of their own and because there was a population gap between men and women a-lot of woman had to marry the same man because they were not enough men to share around. My second point is that the first wife must always have a say if the husband wants to get a new wife the first wife needs to except the second wife before her husband will be able to marry the second wife also a lot of men forget that they need to do the prayers before they get married to the second, third or fourth wife but they never do that but instead they deceive their first wife into allowing them to get married to the other wives.My third point polygamy is in just another way of cheating but in a different form a lot of these polygamist marriage are heavily sex driven rather than being guided by religion or love . Because if it wasn’t, why do a lot of them never tell their wives that they wanted to be polygamous from the beginning? The reason they do not tell them is because they never wanted to be from the get go , so when they see a beautiful woman or woman they found attractive but can never have any sexual relationship with because it is a sin/Haram ,they find that the easiest option is to get married to these women because polygamy is halal. And my last point is that polygamy is sexist when we look at the countries that practice polygamy the most and the countries that do not you will notice a big difference when it comes to gender equality . Places like the Middle East where there is high gender inequality you will realise that it is extremely normal for men to marry as many women as they want. But places like western countries where gender equality is a lot higher , polygamy is not normal/normalised which further agrees to my point because the reason why a lot of women are agreeing to their husband marrying another woman is because they are forced to do that and have no say and also because they can only rely on a man where as in western countries women do not need a man to depend on because there is so much support for woman already. So I hope this helps and may God guide us. Lots of love to my sisters and brothers. Peace be upon you.

@youtubeaccount3230

2 жыл бұрын

Firstly there is quran and sunnah, idk what this lady says as im not watching it, but polygany is allowed, however do not over burden yourself

That was the need of the hour, men can take advantage n use it for their greed, gratification. Men have always taken advantage to use religion to their own benefit. Education,honest,value system offers family life that has Peace n Stability.

Allah’s laws are perfect. They are there to protect everyone, not there to harm and hurt people and be used by evil people, so that they can fulfill their evil desires.If a man is not a good husband or good father but then decides to get a nikkah with his girlfriend. THAT IS NOT ALLOWED!!!!!! by Allah the most merciful. That is what is happening!!!!!People need to look inside of themselves ,and then fear God ,and not pretend that they don’t know what Allah expects from them.A man will wake up paralyzed on one side of his body,on the day of resurrection because he cared and loved one wife and neglected the other. In Allah’s own words he says marry only one if you fear injustice.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

Yea we have to do it the halal way and have nisa , more sisters like you speaking the truth like Naim'a did, the reward is with Allah, I want to be polygynous to help my sisters as well as be happy but in sha Allah I will take my preparation as well!

Masha Allah sister...that's a fact...none can deny... Expecting the unrealistic expectations is the Era... ❤️

What are the benefits of polygamy(for both parties) except children 🤔

Can you please comment on ' the Factory' documantery on trt

Sharing some thoughts here ... First of all, a man and a woman should focus on their deen and becoming a good Muslim before bringing up the discussion of second wives. Then the man has to have mercy toward the woman. Then has to think about his family and consider the well-being of his family. If a second wife will make the family broken and leave traumatized children and individuals then the value of marriage ( to build a family) is lost. You guys may say that it's better for his religion to marry instead of doing something haram, what if it was the other way around and a woman finds it extremely difficult to fulfill her obligations towards him when has a second wife, and that naturally means that she might fall into sins. You guys are simplifying it to only jealousy and the only problem is with the women who refuse a second wife. Why don't you talk about men who abuse this right? Why don't you talk for example a man with multiple wives and how should he treat his family rather than just making it a "sisters problem"

Sahabiat didn't normaly welcome other women to their houses, even Sarah the wife of Ibraham pbuh asked him to take Hajar out after she did offer her to him because of a good reason, so say what you feel ok with but don't over hype and say wemon should do this, it's not an islamic thing, it's your thing and doesn't apply to us normal women that don't actually like this but obey to Allah

My husband got married to his ex n he clearly told me she's the only one who truly loves him n he loves her back how do u expect me to live happily with both of them lyk nothing happened Please I need answers and Wallahi am not against poligamy

@Jibril491

Жыл бұрын

Sister firstly it’s not haram to not like polygamy but have patience and turn to Allah because what better women for a man that is righteous whatever you desire ask Allah sincerely and you will have it. You have a lord that will provide for you expecially in your situation where your patient for Allah

@bushiramurtala

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

19:40 brother Rami brought up a very good insight, this kind of mindset is a liberalistic one, not an Islamic one.

I have thank y’all for finally bringing a knowledgable sis who speaks the truth because hearing it from a sis for us muslim women is diff and it’s about time this happened

@sisterwaad3765

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed💯

@user-ld1xs5bc6g

2 жыл бұрын

true muslim women should speak more to other muslim women

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ld1xs5bc6g Exactly, its sad i think due to feminism pushed by the banking system to keep us debt salves they hate men who will compete with the system so they want nisa to put men down and be intimidated by good men, its misguidance!

I love the perspective here. Finally something other than hollywood’s perspective is here to listen. Love fades away because it’s temporary but ‘a deal’ is the perfect word for marriage

@TheNiceOne_

7 ай бұрын

Love does not fade away

@quez

7 ай бұрын

Examples? Data?

@quez

7 ай бұрын

No idea what love have to do with gender ratio. Mind explaining?

@TheNiceOne_

7 ай бұрын

@@quez sorry I replied to the wrong comment. My answer to your question would be, there are many people on the world who are madly inlove even thought they have been married for many many years. Yea, some people’s love might fade away but there are still many people who’s love doesn’t end. So saying love is temporary is not right. We should get married to find peace and not for “the deal” if you marry another woman while already being married you could ruin the peace and end the marriage. Marriage is not just “a deal” it’s way more then that.

19:00 AT LAST, can I get a takbeer! That’s EXACTLY it and glad to hear it AT LAST! Be good to the first wife. If that’s the case, first wife won’t be happy but she’ll be more willing to work with it. The issue is, many of these bum brothers (yes, that’s an insult to bums) want to take a second wife when things are going wrong with the first and they can’t be bothered to fix if. This is when the anger and bitterness comes in from the first wife. Because she just wanted the guy to turn it around resolve the problems and be good to her but he did not. For many brothers, a new wife is the solution to them not being man enough to fix their issues. Silly they are though because the issues just get bigger and sometimes they end up with no wife 😂!!

6:43 😂 don’t let us stop you encouraging polygyny

I don’t agree with how she’s talking about those women like she’s above that, but I do believe men that are married to one wife somehow lose part of who they are as men and women who don’t allow polygamy become masculine rather than feminine over time … so if you want to keep the quality of your man give him space to do what Allah has allowed him to do

@HowTo3036

Жыл бұрын

Yeah as if her wanting to be a co-wife makes her better on some moral ground.

Ewhhh she is such a pick me 😭😭💀💀 lol I think polygamy is nasty.. am I out of folds of Islam...

@The3Muslims

2 жыл бұрын

May Allah guide you

@precious.a.k3240

2 жыл бұрын

@@The3Muslims no thank you

@najmoabdi9361

2 жыл бұрын

@@The3Muslims are u okay??? In Polygamy relationships you’re literally more likely to catch sexually transmitted diseases. No thank you… and it’s my opinion 😌

Mashallah hidayatallah jazakallah khair ❤️👍👍

Sister Naima Totally agree with you...but it stays all Theory....Even to yourself..... In my whole life I have never seen a successful polygamy marriage....as the way you're describing it......if there are any, it will be good for the ummah to show themselves, so the younger generations can see realistic examples of successful polygamy... And even in these podcasts....it will have more credibility, if the talking woman, has been on a polygamy marriage herself...

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

May I know from which country you are from?

@user-uf7pc5ph2c

2 жыл бұрын

@@cissejr7695 how is that related ?

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

I mean how an adult Muslim cannot see one single stable polygamous family is strange.

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-uf7pc5ph2c so when did HAPPINESS become the goal of our life in this earth. That's the whole of this sister in the podcast. Many young muslimahs are deluded and selfish by looking down at those early marriages of the past generation.

@sophiesumleen7872

2 жыл бұрын

@@axela4606 how is the Commentor misguided? Just shut up and check if ur mother is pr0dtitute or not.

28:47 maybe and most likely they were right to leave the marriage , because men who are qualified to be responsible for 2,3,4 institutes /houses 24/7 for life, with being just and patient are how many??? Men Who have fear of Allah to be just even in their (smile ) to their wives equally (not alone just in money, treatment and etc..) are how many?? Polygamy under the Islamic Sharia with all its rigid and serious terms and warnings, is NOT something that can tolerate being advocated to do just like this!! The verse in the Quraan that talk about polygamy itself tell us how it’s not an easy choice to make, i mean you can’t read that verse and then say “so it’s better to be in a polygamy relationship” .So it’s not about better or should or have it’s about the specific circumstances that make polygamy a choice to consider.that’s how serious that verse is

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like an NPC from the sims.

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

you will NOT stop men from seeking polygamy. End of.

@user-tj3vj7lp5h

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore hmmmm I don’t necessarily want to STOP men from seeking their lust even when they try to make it look from Islam while it’s not. Just sharing thoughts and knowledge.

@mufida_zuhra

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore do you not have anything constructive to add to the table

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-tj3vj7lp5h how is it not from islam to want to fulfill desires ? what do you think marriage is ? charity ? If a guy wants multiple wives and you oppose him just pack up leave and be replaced

Exactly. I am against polygamy if I know that this man is going to leave me completely on my own. I guess reverts are better than born Muslims. They know the rights of Women but In Pakistan, Men literally marry again and leave his children on his wife. It happened to my aunt that's why I said that. I guess if men know the rights, marrying again is better for him. I would let my man marry another woman if he is capable of being just to everyone in the house. If he can't even treat his one wife and his parents fairly, then he should step back from marrying again for now and should do something first.

asked about do men think they can't speak due to being canceled, he said yes, after wach episode small ppl lieft, episode 4 on polygyny, and Muslimas started complaining. Quran 4 :3 makes polygyny the norm to many. Naima says her mom's ppl are zulu, no cap on wives & Polygyny favors nisa, many Muslimas can't handle it. monogamy is new. Marry isn't for love but a deal, to protect, family, provision etc. says its a social construct to say monogamy... knew many nigerian nisa who have 2 or more moms. Polygyny helps many nisa. Naima says is it a need or want, tell that to all the single sisters, don't talk until you been there. 10 :00 - younger girls say i don't need a man, but when they get older nearing the wall, then they prove their own ignorance. Naima says look at the dating apps. reality can't be ignored! says there are 42 yr old virgins nisa, should they be with single. 1st wives should know how to play the role, she has tenior. says purify your intentions, dunya is short! Naim'a says nisa need to get heads out of the gutter - my rephrasing, its not an affair its a responsibility. Nisa say extreme things like if you do that I am out. and says we use sirah when it suits us, marry widows, overweight, divorcees but when its the over way around about welcoming other sisters as co - wives you are quiet. its temporary lies to say Muslimas are depressed and brother is taking advantage... thats not sunnah. Naim'a says if you do good in your first marraige then go for the second one. Rami says liberalism is only for individual and breaks society, Islam is balanced giving individuals rights and and community life. 20 :00 - bad relationships get airred more often, sometimes ppl don't speak about good esp. against mainstream due to the jealousy. Islam puts the condition, marry more then 1 if you can be just! a woman with 2 kids told a man who wanted to do nikah not to be polygyny. Naima says its her right but its her choice she has to live with. dont' be on the streets after turning down good men and living in fairy tales. Aanghel sayd Naima said you have a standard, but do you match that... Naima says look at these tik tok nisa who left her babies daddy, theya ren't happy, don't be like them...

Masha'Allah

Loved this👏 Sister Naima literally spoke my mind, Allahu Akbar. I remember once I spoke about polygamy and for days I had sisters attacking me. Wallahi I even heard sisters say they'd allow their husband to have a one night stand rather than have him marry a second wife!!!! Not only are they making haram for him that which is halal (as long as the man treats all his wives equally) but also making halal that which is haram i.e zina. So like Brother Ramy said, it is definitely a issue of Aqeedah. The hatred for polygyny stems from two places...the first was beautifully explained by Sister Naima. The Second was from the western idea of mistresses. Polygyny was very much practiced in the west but indirectly. A man in the west normally had one wife but numerous mistresses. Now since that was really cheating they try to equate that to polygyny which was widely practiced everywhere else in the world. Add that to all the fantasies that manifest selfishness and you create a society based on individualism. Not only does that destroy both polygyny and monogamy but the entire idea of an 'Ummah'! Further more sisters should understand that if polygyny even had the slightest bit more harm than good, Allah would have forbidden it just like He forbade Alcohol which has small benefits. Both polygyny and monogamy are good for the society, when they are implemented correctly. As for men, they should take heed that the Quran prohibits them from marry multiple wives if they can't treat then with equity. And for women, learn to love for your sister what you love for yourself.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

2 жыл бұрын

These aren't real women or weak ones, and the fact they say have a one night and not a 2nd wife shows 2 things, they aren't the same for all the ignorant ones who compare them, and 2 it shows their minds in the gutter to even project that &they need to become more wholesome. at least raise sons to be polygynous, even if men dont' get married to more then one. they will be high standard working towards that!

@aishajama7127

Жыл бұрын

In Suratul Nissa verse 129. Allah mentions men can never be a 100% equal between their wives even if they strive to do so..so I’m guessing that’s where most of the fear of polygamy comes from. Another issue I just don’t understand is there’s no need to be so much debate in polygamy. Yes it’s halal but it’s not mandatory. The same way man can choose to be in polygamy, a woman can choose to be not in polygamy. There are some women that are okay with polygamy and some women that are not. Simple. No need to force a woman not comfortable with polygamy to be in a polygamous marriage. And no just because she chooses to not be in a polygamous marriage does not make her a sinner. There is absolutely no where in Islam where it says polygny is mandatory.

@HwywisjsJsjsbs

Жыл бұрын

Don't look at them. Remember, everyone contestant hates the winner.

But...if polygamy is not a must for those who don't want to involve in it, respect her decision

Realistically men will *think* that can take on that responsibility but can’t. In the west, women aren’t protected on polygamy the way they are in other countries. Jealousy is one thing, but if I now have to live a life of poverty, and problems because of this second wife - is that fair? If the woman of paying half the bills to help hubby but now he’s saying he can look after another - is that fair?

If I would do polygamy then the woman must be a divorcee or widowed,not because I am greedy or lustful, and also if I would be able to do justice among my wives, women in countries like Syria, Palestine,Yemen etc are widowed,they are suffering a lot, they are helpless so if I would be capable of handling more than one wife and abilities to fulfill their needs then I would marry them and support them 🥺 Inshaallah 🎉

@emma647

Жыл бұрын

For every female divorcee there is a male divorcee, a divorcee could be 60 years old or 18 years old, why should a divorcee be instantly considered less then?

Min 4: anghels smile and looks😂😂

Can anybody tell me why Prophet Ibrahim as had to send away his 2nd wife Hajar and son Prophet Ismail AS far away cast them away from him? Why? Because Sarah was JEALOUS. Didn't she? So what? So Allah SWT instructed Prophet Ibrahim AS to do so. Why this Naima is so annoying about women have to suppress their feelings and jealousy ? She is just PURE RIDICULOUS and acting as if she knows everything. She is the one who is cherry pick Sirah according to her favour. Funny. This lady is forcing this idea and as if who doesn't want to take part or be apart of this polygyny relationship is wrong and therefore should comply and bear with it even if we don't want to. For me many men want it? Carry on. But i wouldn't like to be apart of it. Many women also don't want to and it is not sinful to excuse ourselves out of this polygyny thing. We can provide ourselves and will not gonna die without men. Unlike Naima, she might be can't live fulfilling life without a husband. If my current loyal loving husband is passed away before me, i just feel happy to devoted my life to the Almighty God, my beloved kids and myself. All these are enough to make my life satisfying and serene. I can drive on my own for groceries and sleep 😴 whole day in the spa and if i am lazy i can just hire a driver. If i want to talk to someone i always have Allah, my kids, family & friends. What's so fussy if you can't find another single man to be married of ? Lust and desires can always wait. We are not living in dunia for ever. I wish that men that think polygyny is compulsory and favour it, will also get a lotttt of their own daughters and start to teach them about how they should bear with polygyny when they are adult soon. Saying "That's fine my daughter, polygyny is good for you. You should be HAPPY that your husband is stepping up to protect and serving other ladies. Don't you are happy and thankful as daddy do? 🙄Lol.🤭 Do whatever you want but don't enforcing it upon others. Not everyone are the same. Some women can tolerate and happy involved in polygamy some are not. Choose your own path and stop condemning others feelings and view of life. So ignorant. Do not tarnished our religion good name (OPPRESSION/UNFAIRNESS TOWARDS LADIES) for the sake of your own personal benefits (By uttering some non-fact based arguments and keep on blaming Disney). I believe Sarah also was not watching Disney ,was she ?? But why she was gettin jealous and don't want to see her husband with Hajar ? Was she was being called a sinner for that ? In fact Allah swt had acknowledged her FEELINGS! Watch from these ulama' and ustazah/mualimah instead from a Niqabis Influencer who is WITHOUT❌️ any ❌️FORMAL ISLAMIC STUDIES ❌️⚠️👇 kzread.info/dash/bejne/q5mYxZKuitexkqw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5x70rCJqJi9ZZM.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqJ7tMOqo8_Tiso.html

@Marwadear512

6 ай бұрын

Why are you so loud? Very annoying.

Sister Na’ima is ahead of the curve allahummabaarik.

@raymondvenice4998

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, hope to see you do more shows with Sister Na'ima in the future In Sha Allah.

@jamessantoshi7451

2 жыл бұрын

But unfortunately mahdi, you’re way behind the curve, and together with abu american misguiding vulnerable , broken muslim men. Allah give you hidayah to renounce the cancer of Redpillism

@justsaying7805

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamessantoshi7451 abu American has turned his back on the “red pill” movement

@jamessantoshi7451

2 жыл бұрын

@@justsaying7805 He most certainly has not. Watch the podcast he did a couple of days ago entitled ‘can Islam survive the gynocentric subversive’ with the godfather of redpill, rollo tomassi. He is trying to Islamise the redpill deviancy, and daniel haqiqatu was there to give his blessing. And so was mahdi.

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamessantoshi7451 well can you give us specific les about it that you find problematic islamically. U need to make a strong argument to be taken seriously.

IF he fears he can’t be JUST how about I fear and I will never put my trust in a man. They don’t even have the means to give you what you want as mahr. They want to do the bare minimum. If we are going with what our hearts desires then majority of woman want soft lives they want princess treatment. Is he able to fulfil that can he distract her from the torment🤷🏾‍♀️

YES! to facts and I'm from the US living in Northern Ghana where polygyny/polygamy is the norm I don't have a problem with it because I have found that the MAN with multiple wives seem to be a little(ok a lot) more responsible than the male with one wife, they make sure everyone in their family and community are ok. I personally would rather be a part of a village, I never had children but the people around me have children and grandchildren that I feel are just as much mine as they are theirs. No, I'm not married yet but I look forward to the day inshallah. Still learning and detoxing from an American upbringing 🙏🙏🙏🙏

It also feels like an imposition on the 1st wife life if she is not part of the decision of choosing the second wife. It is not an easy thing to accept given our modern way of life with the nuclear family we have now, valueing privacy and general distrust we have to "strangers".

@ThaEzioAuditore

2 жыл бұрын

you don't like it keep it moving men aren't prison guards

@suelenq1708

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaEzioAuditore If I got you correctly, my reply is this: I am talking about a certain prespective and understanding these things may actually help make the polygamy experience successful. I think this is more useful than "my way or the highway" kind of interaction. Compassion is out of the window it seems but again, it is possible I misunderstood you, in that case, never mind my reply.

@Reem-ne7nn

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I don't like the angle the sister was making of shaming the first wife for not wanting to invite another woman into her marriage. It's dangerous to imply that women should encourage their husbands to engage in polygyny. Polygyny is no joke, why invite more trials into your life? If it happens organically fine, but why would a married woman invite more difficulties into her marriage? It's unrealistic.

@sweettea1193

2 жыл бұрын

I'd just be worried what if she had an STD and she passes it to the husband and then hubby passes it onto you. Because this is a possibility nowadays because you as a first wife won't know the second wife or her past.

@misscamara12

Жыл бұрын

The first wife should not be involved in the decision of choosing that second wife. She has no authority or obligation to the other wife. She has no right to interfere in the other marriage.

Salam alikoum The reality is that most men who want to get a new wife don't get the widow with children or the divorced but his beautiful colleague or neighbour 😊

Before I wanted to marry because of my desires but now I want to because of Islam!

Problems in society.. Killing girl fetus.. Multiple pre marriage partners Unemployments LGBTQ++++ etc.. Making marriage less prefereble option .

You talking more than the brothers! Brothers who clearly found it difficult to articulate why they did/want to remarry. And oh men are not using Islam to justify get their multiple wives. Disappointed Naima!

@fazzland

Жыл бұрын

This lady, Naima is nonsense. Even Prophet saw daughter didn't wish didn't hope didn't want other woman in her marriage. Lol. Shall we blame Fatimah ra too?? Was Fatimah ra watched too much Disney too ??? If you can accept and want it so much, carry on Naima do not force it onto others. Marriage is not based on LOVE? Yes you are talking pure nonsense and just like heartless robot 🤖. Naima is forcing and uttering all these nonsense after her husband died and she desperately wanted another husband. If not, why you were not encouraging and advocating polygyny since your first marriage previously??? So, as the conclusion someone can only reasoning and accepting something after misery that happened in their life. Only then you think about oh poor all these single 30-40yo sisters who had not yet married. Where are all these logics when you were with your previous late husband? Or on that moment you were still believing in Disney love stories? In addition to that, another 5 years you're reaching menopause. That's why you just don't care. Your kids are not current husband kids and are becoming adults. At your current situation all you need is just part time husband and more time for your ME TIME. Pity those women with very small little kids that still needs A LOT OF THEIR DADDY'S ATTENTIONS, TIME AND BONDING. There must be very much different kids who are engaging everyday with their father or only 1-2 days only can meet their father! Didn't i talk about little kids do TANTRUMS? Imagining having to face tantrums, tiring days with chores, etc while a husband and dad leave everything to you to face alone and go f**kin other wife happily while you are struggling alone at home with little challenging kids. For me better if I'm facing everything alone, real ALONE than having this kind of relationship. Marriage is not all about F**Kin and Breeding like cats. And once again LOVE, COMPASSION AND EMPATHY are important in a MARRIAGE. What a selfish lady.

It soooo heartwarming how she is able to word things so concisely, she literally destroyed all their talking points. This video should be cut in to many shorts I swear, it’s soooo beneficial and hits the point: people need to memorize her responses. She is right , ppl want to shame us for telling them the Norma things.

Living in the United States, how could one go about marrying more than one wife? Could you nikah without getting a state issued marriage certificate? I’m not sure if that marriage will be valid though.

@muhammadmafaz8530

2 жыл бұрын

State doesn't recognise nikah so do it in local masjid in front of community.

@hereweare9096

2 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadmafaz8530 That would be illegal. Marriages are required to be registered with the government.

@muhammadmafaz8530

2 жыл бұрын

@@hereweare9096 Allah doesn't accept secular marriage he only accept nikah

@hereweare9096

2 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadmafaz8530 What? So are you saying NO Muslim people who are married in the west register their marriages??

@muhammadmafaz8530

2 жыл бұрын

@@hereweare9096 no need to register because it's not a sharia court.

16:10 FACTS

May the almighty Allah bless you sister you don't need to apologize for this remember even the best human being prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him was criticized and continuing to be criticized today....

Ok, I tried to listen to this "discussion" with an open mind and here are my conclusions: 1. A discussion normally means you have people with different opinions discuss an issue so we can hear the arguments on each side. Here, there are 4 people who are all pro polygamy shaming women who don't want to accept polygamy. 2. This woman keeps talking about men providing for and protecting women as it was centuries ago. These days in western countries, Muslim women tend to be at least equally, if not more educated than Muslim men and make similar or more money. Most Muslim men cannot even provide for 1 wife and children without the wife also working. So, I don't know how these men can provide for additional wives and children. 3. Marriage in Islam is supposed to bring about peace and harmony to the relationship and household. What sort of peace and harmony can be found in this sort of living situation? This has nothing to do w/ liberalism or feminism. Even in the old days, the co-wives would fight and "accidents" would happen to the children, etc. 4. Our prophet (pbuh) was able to maintain this sort of household as the women respected him more since he was the prophet, not just their husband. Regular Muslim men should not compare themselves w/ the prophet and will not receive the same degree of respect from their wives as the prophet did. 5. Muslims are told to follow the laws in their respective countries and be good citizens. In most western countries polygamy is a crime and yet here, these upstanding Muslims shaming us women as bad Muslims are advising us to break the laws of our countries by practicing polygamy. I'm not surprised their channels have not been suspended yet for advising people to commit criminal offenses. 6. "Surplus" women in western countries can marry men from other countries with shortage of women like China and India, for example. In general, men from other countries are dying for a chance to come to western countries. Rather than entering into polygamous marriages, it would make more sense to marry men from those other countries if they can't find anyone here. Also, the reason those women can't find a man is bc they are picky, thus won't settle for polygamy either. 7. Polygamy applies to a tiny percentage of Muslims but these people always want to talk about it and shame us women to accept it. They don't consider that their behavior is harming those engaging in Dawah, turning away most women from wanting to learn about or considering Islam, turning off most Muslim women, and attracting macho misogynist types of men to Islam. This discussion did not move me closer to their side, in fact, I would rather remain single than put up with this male complex of comparing themselves with the prophet and entitlement of wanting multiple wives.

@tangibleemotions7

Жыл бұрын

No 5 - polygamy according to religious practice is not a crime in most western countries as you erroneously state. Conversely, bigamy is a criminal offence and is specified as engaging in more than one marriage via a civil ceremony or a legally recognised marriage registration..

@HowTo3036

Жыл бұрын

It’s a shame they aren’t being fair by bringing representation for the opposition.

@user-qq8zf5rw5r

10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment... Ya Allah protect us from people like this who don't even know how much fitnah they are creating.

Please know that polygamy isn’t practiced at all that much And even though monogamous is so high in divorce , especially in America Most have one wife and divorce is so high I’m 31 years in marriage, and most aren’t even aware that most women are career women and don’t even want a man around daily ! So start from there , women aren’t in a realistic situation and they lack aqeedah all of us especially women. Many women will never get married period due to the false ideology of marriage

Masha Allah great program, much needed for ummah in these times. I absolutely agree with the sister and all 3 brothers. Our Islam is not complete until we accept each and every aspect of it. In my view polygamy from Islam is designed for the women and children of ummah to find support and protection, and this is the broader vision to it, but unfortunately we restrict it to a narrow vision of fear of losing our positions and comforts being the first wives. May Allah make our men strong enough to revive this forgotten sunnah and may Allah give our women the big vision of helping ummah in need.....

masha allah

Disgusting