Beginning a diesel generator project, starting with my initial impressions of the new 9 HP Chinese diesel engine.
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@AlphaDogChoppers7 ай бұрын
One of the things I have learned about small engines is that it is absolutely vital that they have short interval oil changes during break-in. Even the highest quality small engines, like the Honda 2000W “suitcase” type generator will make oil look like pearlescent glitter paint after the first half hour of operation. I change the oil after first half hour with no load, then after each tank of fuel until I can no longer see sparkly metal particles in the oil under bright light. THIS is how you get long life from these small engines. I break them in with 10W-40 diesel or motorcycle rated oil. Then I run them long term on 20W-50 motorcycle oil.
@scramjet4610
5 ай бұрын
Wow, what a great comment. What you're saying makes perfect sense, but I never thought of that. Thanks!!
@fjs11112 жыл бұрын
Freakin UPS, I have one of the laziest drivers ever. Some are really good, some are lazy and sloppy. I had one guy throw a computer server despite all the "FRAGILE" signs lol. Very cool video thanks man
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
You'd think with all the doorbell cams, they'd be more mindful.
@olgreen
10 ай бұрын
fedex is even worse....
@reypolice5231
7 ай бұрын
FedEx keeps sending me some else packages from two people
@Annon89
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve watched ups, prime and usps all just throw stuff out the door on my sidewalk, or stuff it in mailbox instead of putting it on the porch. Can’t find good help these days.
@Skidderoperator
7 ай бұрын
@@reypolice5231Theyve given my packages to strangers 2×.
@JOHNDANIEL1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent basic video, now to add a couple of Wind Turbine PMA's to it and a auto full charge shut down relay.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I added an AC gen head. Got me thru our 2 hurricanes this past fall.
@ryelor1237 ай бұрын
Lucky. The UPS driver did some free extended QA.
@Orlosthedruid Жыл бұрын
I too live on the coast and have since 1970's. I needed a genset as well, but instead of diesel, I went natural gas/propane. You dont need to ever worry about your fuel system being messed up, gummed up, dirty, if you use Natural gas.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, my propane genny also works well. Also propane stores forever without worries.
@robm33578 ай бұрын
Problem with diesel is they like low rpm and the generator running at 3500 is going to cause a lot of torque on the belt. Especially if you load the generator. But Diesel is the way to go. They are very efficient and have loads of torque. I would mix some lubricants with the diesel fuel to help the fuel pump survive our very dry diesel fuel. Some motor oil or 2 stroke oil. Our low sulfur diesel doesn’t give much lubricant to the fuel pump or the injector.
@lmfarms4611 Жыл бұрын
You didn't put a link as to wear you bought it from?
@rusellwood32703 ай бұрын
Well done on the explanation of starting
@ralphscholz95337 ай бұрын
It looks like it has a place to put an electric starter. That would be good option to have in cold weather.
@gphilipc20319 ай бұрын
Good for an old Cushman or Allstate Scooter.
@papabits57217 ай бұрын
Survived all the way till it got to the US, make America great again, can't even deliver shit properly.
@mckenziekeith7434 Жыл бұрын
How is it holding up?
@robertling98723 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this engine and your idea. Q: Do you have the url to the poducer and engine type?
@gwseymour
3 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir! Thanks for watching. Try this link. www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y4RR726?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
@robertling9872
3 жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour Thank you...good luck with your generator project...👍
@fjs11117 ай бұрын
Ever buy a Chinese Chap Stick from like a dollar store? I have this one called "WATER IN LIP" lol , this engine is pretty cool hope it doesn't dissolve or self-destruct!
@SteveWrightNZ7 ай бұрын
I've had two of these, both spewed copious oil from the breather and exhaust at any load at all.. Perhaps if they set ring gaps correctly..
@briancaldwell1798
5 ай бұрын
Have you got any pics of it doing this? on the oil discharge
@SteveWrightNZ
5 ай бұрын
@@briancaldwell1798 No, we just sent it back.
@crematedable
4 ай бұрын
Didn’t adjust valves
@SteveWrightNZ
4 ай бұрын
@@crematedable assumed
@thshm2938 Жыл бұрын
What about the engine oil that you put by removing the orange cap? Did you add it yourself or does the engine comes with it?
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
It comes empty, and you add your own.
@dennisyoung4631
9 ай бұрын
Probably want to do frequent changes during initial run-in, e.g. first half hour at a fast no-load idle, change oil, then change oil every few hours for a few changes…
@Guds7776 ай бұрын
Then pay the delivery boy in the same with his face. Teach him to respect other people's properties...
@Failure_Is_An_Option
Ай бұрын
Time and place boy. Lets go.
@JoshKilen Жыл бұрын
nice engine.
@davidhearne9383 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the generator. Question I can find it anywhere but what's the mount flange bolt pattern around the crank shaft. I'm planning on putting one of these on my rear tine tiller.
@rossr66167 ай бұрын
how are the seals holding up?
@Duamerthrax2 жыл бұрын
What break-in oil and regular run oil did you use for this. I'd assume 15w-40 types.
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Correct. I use Shell Rotella 15-40 synthetic.
@careypatmore25768 ай бұрын
Use an inverter with regulator and run it a bit faster
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
Dumb. Run it with a truck alternator and pure sine wave inverter, but slow, and aim for 3 HP or less.
@pootispiker28667 ай бұрын
The engine slobbering fuel like that is not good. It needs to be under load.
@illernpiller8 ай бұрын
Which supplier did you buy this from? I'm looking for a good diesel but potentially a bit smaller.
@illernpiller
8 ай бұрын
Oh and how long does it run on a full tank?
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
168F. 1/3 the size and also superbly made. Keep the RPM's low and be very wary of ether starts. It's a very easy way to do damage. Mount it on an aluminum plate.
@justawfulgamer7738 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much elec a 3 HP diesel could put out
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
You can figure about 700 watts per hp.
@dennisyoung4631
9 ай бұрын
Uh, give more margin. 2 hp per kw is a figure I’ve read, and that sounds likely.
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
But run your 168F at 1 - 1.5 HP and less than 1800 RPM = good practice.
@Bullworm5624 ай бұрын
Do you know if the PTO shaft bolt holes are standard or metric threads? Have you checked the maximum RPM it can achieve with your meter? Thank you.
@AMXM-do5kw2 жыл бұрын
Does this engine have its own electricity supply? Like magnet coil stator?
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
You can get a starter kit for it that includes that stuff, but mine is just pure pull start / compression....kinda nice to have no electronics, but that compression stroke is serious.
@scdevon
2 жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour - Right. Starting batteries are a pain in the butt to maintain all the time. Small diesels like this are easy to start in the cold with just a whiff of hot air in the intake with a propane torch and /or a rag soaked in engine starting fluid stuffed loosely into the intake.
@mikebones3223 ай бұрын
Does it sound like the crank is coming through the block any time soon? I have one that knocks like crazy!
@ac-ir9gs Жыл бұрын
We got a screamer
@Mike-rf3kl22 күн бұрын
Mini Detroit diesel 318
@Pascaldacashcow2 жыл бұрын
Any idea if these would run on vegetable oils?
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a diesel expert, but I know that folks have had mixed results with different oils. One day (another project), I'm going to get one of the cheaper, smaller ones and experiment. I'd imagine you could expect some issues with injectors, etc.
@scdevon
2 жыл бұрын
These cheap Chinese diesels are great to experiment with. It's hard to hurt them and any failed fuel experiments, you can completely strip this whole fuel system down and completely clean it quickly and start over.
@miniatures1
2 жыл бұрын
I know the 196cc ones run on pretty much anything as long as what ever you use is oily enough and is clean you won't run into any problems.
@moptop85
Жыл бұрын
Ive only seen one problem were the used veggie oil gummed up in the piston rings. Not sure if they didnt filter it out properly or what.
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
Veggie? Generally yes, but don't use dirty motor oil (super abrasive) or ether to start ( like a grenade ).
@briancaldwell17985 ай бұрын
75% of my families deliveries are dented from UPS, FREDEX, are two of the worst companies for damages! you should have returned it!!!
@randyvac01 Жыл бұрын
What's the size of the pto crankshaft.
@olgreen
10 ай бұрын
I think it's 20mm
@Duamerthrax
8 ай бұрын
@@olgreen This is a clone of a yanmar L100, it's 1inch. The 168F engine rated at 3hp has a 20mm shaft.
@Duamerthrax
7 ай бұрын
@@Codyjrt fixed. The 3hp engine is 168f. Easy to get them mixed up.
@sirtnfol8476 Жыл бұрын
What i want to know is can it do better than 1 gallon per hour as a 4000watt genny.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, at a moderate load, it'll go a bout 5 hours on a gallon. Got a hurricane coming, so we'll see.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Just got thru Hurricane Ian. Under moderate load (fridge, fans, lights, water pump, and occasional coffee pot) it drank 1 quart every 2 hours.
@sirtnfol8476
Жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour thats awesome. 8hrs a gallon?!!
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
@@sirtnfol8476 Yes! Fridge and lights draw very little. My water pump pulled hard, but that's only for a minute. At a heavier draw, that number would definitely change.
@porsche928ireland2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about a small 2 stroke diesel steam conversion
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun project if you have a good boiler.
@UQRXD7 ай бұрын
They don't last very long. Piston and rings fail.
@steveu0933 Жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase engine from ?
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Amazon
@alanwalker67082 жыл бұрын
Got the link to the product? WOuld like to get one myself.
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
If I try and link, it brings you to my personal amazon account. But, I got it on Amazon.
@miniatures12 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy this engine from?
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Amazon. The distributor was "Sandyshop 01"
@codyhamm66325 ай бұрын
I can’t start mine
@TotoGuy-Original7 ай бұрын
where can i buy this
@Failure_Is_An_Option
Ай бұрын
The internet.
@TotoGuy-Original
Ай бұрын
@@Failure_Is_An_Option no shit sherlock
@Edsinx3 жыл бұрын
🇧🇷😎👍
@mimjalbepari76872 жыл бұрын
Are Mal kotay poa jay
@georgekirira53762 жыл бұрын
How Mach is this
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Correct. 600 on Amazon
@steveo6018 ай бұрын
That’s a Chinese yacht engine😂😂😂😂😂😂
@rossr6616
7 ай бұрын
Junk for a Junk 😂
@girthy10incher23 Жыл бұрын
I believe these are more like 6 hp
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Definitely 10....and now it's hurricane tested.
@girthy10incher23
Жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour Nope
@hirusthehellhound
Жыл бұрын
@@girthy10incher23 nahhh just buy and test it if you want to see if its 6 hp or not. I belive its around 8-10 hp judging by the size of it. And I saw some 8 hp engine that have that size as well. Plus those spin a little fast too
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One of the things I have learned about small engines is that it is absolutely vital that they have short interval oil changes during break-in. Even the highest quality small engines, like the Honda 2000W “suitcase” type generator will make oil look like pearlescent glitter paint after the first half hour of operation. I change the oil after first half hour with no load, then after each tank of fuel until I can no longer see sparkly metal particles in the oil under bright light. THIS is how you get long life from these small engines. I break them in with 10W-40 diesel or motorcycle rated oil. Then I run them long term on 20W-50 motorcycle oil.
@scramjet4610
5 ай бұрын
Wow, what a great comment. What you're saying makes perfect sense, but I never thought of that. Thanks!!
Freakin UPS, I have one of the laziest drivers ever. Some are really good, some are lazy and sloppy. I had one guy throw a computer server despite all the "FRAGILE" signs lol. Very cool video thanks man
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
You'd think with all the doorbell cams, they'd be more mindful.
@olgreen
10 ай бұрын
fedex is even worse....
@reypolice5231
7 ай бұрын
FedEx keeps sending me some else packages from two people
@Annon89
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve watched ups, prime and usps all just throw stuff out the door on my sidewalk, or stuff it in mailbox instead of putting it on the porch. Can’t find good help these days.
@Skidderoperator
7 ай бұрын
@@reypolice5231Theyve given my packages to strangers 2×.
Excellent basic video, now to add a couple of Wind Turbine PMA's to it and a auto full charge shut down relay.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I added an AC gen head. Got me thru our 2 hurricanes this past fall.
Lucky. The UPS driver did some free extended QA.
I too live on the coast and have since 1970's. I needed a genset as well, but instead of diesel, I went natural gas/propane. You dont need to ever worry about your fuel system being messed up, gummed up, dirty, if you use Natural gas.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, my propane genny also works well. Also propane stores forever without worries.
Problem with diesel is they like low rpm and the generator running at 3500 is going to cause a lot of torque on the belt. Especially if you load the generator. But Diesel is the way to go. They are very efficient and have loads of torque. I would mix some lubricants with the diesel fuel to help the fuel pump survive our very dry diesel fuel. Some motor oil or 2 stroke oil. Our low sulfur diesel doesn’t give much lubricant to the fuel pump or the injector.
You didn't put a link as to wear you bought it from?
Well done on the explanation of starting
It looks like it has a place to put an electric starter. That would be good option to have in cold weather.
Good for an old Cushman or Allstate Scooter.
Survived all the way till it got to the US, make America great again, can't even deliver shit properly.
How is it holding up?
Thank you for sharing this engine and your idea. Q: Do you have the url to the poducer and engine type?
@gwseymour
3 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir! Thanks for watching. Try this link. www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y4RR726?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
@robertling9872
3 жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour Thank you...good luck with your generator project...👍
Ever buy a Chinese Chap Stick from like a dollar store? I have this one called "WATER IN LIP" lol , this engine is pretty cool hope it doesn't dissolve or self-destruct!
I've had two of these, both spewed copious oil from the breather and exhaust at any load at all.. Perhaps if they set ring gaps correctly..
@briancaldwell1798
5 ай бұрын
Have you got any pics of it doing this? on the oil discharge
@SteveWrightNZ
5 ай бұрын
@@briancaldwell1798 No, we just sent it back.
@crematedable
4 ай бұрын
Didn’t adjust valves
@SteveWrightNZ
4 ай бұрын
@@crematedable assumed
What about the engine oil that you put by removing the orange cap? Did you add it yourself or does the engine comes with it?
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
It comes empty, and you add your own.
@dennisyoung4631
9 ай бұрын
Probably want to do frequent changes during initial run-in, e.g. first half hour at a fast no-load idle, change oil, then change oil every few hours for a few changes…
Then pay the delivery boy in the same with his face. Teach him to respect other people's properties...
@Failure_Is_An_Option
Ай бұрын
Time and place boy. Lets go.
nice engine.
Great job on the generator. Question I can find it anywhere but what's the mount flange bolt pattern around the crank shaft. I'm planning on putting one of these on my rear tine tiller.
how are the seals holding up?
What break-in oil and regular run oil did you use for this. I'd assume 15w-40 types.
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Correct. I use Shell Rotella 15-40 synthetic.
Use an inverter with regulator and run it a bit faster
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
Dumb. Run it with a truck alternator and pure sine wave inverter, but slow, and aim for 3 HP or less.
The engine slobbering fuel like that is not good. It needs to be under load.
Which supplier did you buy this from? I'm looking for a good diesel but potentially a bit smaller.
@illernpiller
8 ай бұрын
Oh and how long does it run on a full tank?
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
168F. 1/3 the size and also superbly made. Keep the RPM's low and be very wary of ether starts. It's a very easy way to do damage. Mount it on an aluminum plate.
I wonder how much elec a 3 HP diesel could put out
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
You can figure about 700 watts per hp.
@dennisyoung4631
9 ай бұрын
Uh, give more margin. 2 hp per kw is a figure I’ve read, and that sounds likely.
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
But run your 168F at 1 - 1.5 HP and less than 1800 RPM = good practice.
Do you know if the PTO shaft bolt holes are standard or metric threads? Have you checked the maximum RPM it can achieve with your meter? Thank you.
Does this engine have its own electricity supply? Like magnet coil stator?
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
You can get a starter kit for it that includes that stuff, but mine is just pure pull start / compression....kinda nice to have no electronics, but that compression stroke is serious.
@scdevon
2 жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour - Right. Starting batteries are a pain in the butt to maintain all the time. Small diesels like this are easy to start in the cold with just a whiff of hot air in the intake with a propane torch and /or a rag soaked in engine starting fluid stuffed loosely into the intake.
Does it sound like the crank is coming through the block any time soon? I have one that knocks like crazy!
We got a screamer
Mini Detroit diesel 318
Any idea if these would run on vegetable oils?
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a diesel expert, but I know that folks have had mixed results with different oils. One day (another project), I'm going to get one of the cheaper, smaller ones and experiment. I'd imagine you could expect some issues with injectors, etc.
@scdevon
2 жыл бұрын
These cheap Chinese diesels are great to experiment with. It's hard to hurt them and any failed fuel experiments, you can completely strip this whole fuel system down and completely clean it quickly and start over.
@miniatures1
2 жыл бұрын
I know the 196cc ones run on pretty much anything as long as what ever you use is oily enough and is clean you won't run into any problems.
@moptop85
Жыл бұрын
Ive only seen one problem were the used veggie oil gummed up in the piston rings. Not sure if they didnt filter it out properly or what.
@stanleybest8833
7 ай бұрын
Veggie? Generally yes, but don't use dirty motor oil (super abrasive) or ether to start ( like a grenade ).
75% of my families deliveries are dented from UPS, FREDEX, are two of the worst companies for damages! you should have returned it!!!
What's the size of the pto crankshaft.
@olgreen
10 ай бұрын
I think it's 20mm
@Duamerthrax
8 ай бұрын
@@olgreen This is a clone of a yanmar L100, it's 1inch. The 168F engine rated at 3hp has a 20mm shaft.
@Duamerthrax
7 ай бұрын
@@Codyjrt fixed. The 3hp engine is 168f. Easy to get them mixed up.
What i want to know is can it do better than 1 gallon per hour as a 4000watt genny.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, at a moderate load, it'll go a bout 5 hours on a gallon. Got a hurricane coming, so we'll see.
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Just got thru Hurricane Ian. Under moderate load (fridge, fans, lights, water pump, and occasional coffee pot) it drank 1 quart every 2 hours.
@sirtnfol8476
Жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour thats awesome. 8hrs a gallon?!!
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
@@sirtnfol8476 Yes! Fridge and lights draw very little. My water pump pulled hard, but that's only for a minute. At a heavier draw, that number would definitely change.
What do you think about a small 2 stroke diesel steam conversion
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun project if you have a good boiler.
They don't last very long. Piston and rings fail.
Where did you purchase engine from ?
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Amazon
Got the link to the product? WOuld like to get one myself.
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
If I try and link, it brings you to my personal amazon account. But, I got it on Amazon.
Where did you buy this engine from?
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Amazon. The distributor was "Sandyshop 01"
I can’t start mine
where can i buy this
@Failure_Is_An_Option
Ай бұрын
The internet.
@TotoGuy-Original
Ай бұрын
@@Failure_Is_An_Option no shit sherlock
🇧🇷😎👍
Are Mal kotay poa jay
How Mach is this
@gwseymour
2 жыл бұрын
Correct. 600 on Amazon
That’s a Chinese yacht engine😂😂😂😂😂😂
@rossr6616
7 ай бұрын
Junk for a Junk 😂
I believe these are more like 6 hp
@gwseymour
Жыл бұрын
Definitely 10....and now it's hurricane tested.
@girthy10incher23
Жыл бұрын
@@gwseymour Nope
@hirusthehellhound
Жыл бұрын
@@girthy10incher23 nahhh just buy and test it if you want to see if its 6 hp or not. I belive its around 8-10 hp judging by the size of it. And I saw some 8 hp engine that have that size as well. Plus those spin a little fast too