$9 DOS Retro Gaming PC with the HP t5530 Thin Client

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  • 4 жыл бұрын

    Your Channel is gold. Everybody is like Rdr2 this and that, and you my friend are playing Golden Axe

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha, great comment :D

  • @carltonleboss

    @carltonleboss

    4 жыл бұрын

    Golden Axe is a solid game though

  • @bdhale34

    @bdhale34

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be perfectly fair Golden Axe is probably a lot less buggy and frustrating than Grand Theft Equine 2.

  • @alexc3504

    @alexc3504

    4 жыл бұрын

    RDR2 is actually a really fun game though. But it is a bit overhyped.

  • @viktorengelmann4077
    @viktorengelmann40774 жыл бұрын

    That devide-overflow error was due to a "benchmark" that old Turbo Pascal programs did to determine how to get certain delays. What they did is: compute sin(something) multiple times. Say X times. And they measured how long that took (say Y milliseconds). Then they would divide X/Y to know how often they'd have to compute sin(something) to get 1 millisecond delay. Problem was - at about 350 MHz, that benchmark took 0 milliseconds and that caused a division by 0 error. There was some patch for Turbo Pascal programs that fixed this behavior.

  • @NickB

    @NickB

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or if you had the source code and Turbo Pascal you could install updated CRT unit and cure the problem.

  • @kimbach1824

    @kimbach1824

    8 ай бұрын

    You got reference for that?

  • @Emoziga
    @Emoziga4 жыл бұрын

    So a "sound card" for the machine costs almost 6 times more than the machine itself. Cool.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha, yes, it's a very specialised item that's for sure :)

  • @futurepastnow

    @futurepastnow

    4 жыл бұрын

    So it goes. If I ever decide to buy a Gravis Ultrasound, it'd cost me many times more than the machine I'd put it in.

  • @directionlessstudios7210

    @directionlessstudios7210

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're right. I've contacted the thin client seller and all the upvotes to this comment get a special deal -- $54 thin client PC! :D Your purchases will now have the symmetry you desire. Still too disproportionate? Please tell us what is the optimal proportion and I will inform the seller of thin client PC. lol anyway $50 is not much for a sound card retro, new-retro or otherwise. I suppose your observation has context for anyone who never had a PC without onboard sound. To this day an aftermarket sound card is still the better quality choice. You can use that parallel OPL card in a 30 year spread of PCs so its not tied to just this extremely affordable thin client. Speaking specifically of that adlib/sound blaster OPL sound, a lot of the sound cards featuring that chip go for at least $50. And none of the newer sound cards are capable of it. You can do emulation. But if all we wanted to do was emulate, we wouldn't need either this thin client or the parallel sound card. We could just run DOSBox on our regular PCs or a raspberry Pi. :P

  • @jamesmillerjo

    @jamesmillerjo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@directionlessstudios7210 He is talking about comparison, not about amount. 54cents cost 6 times more than 9cents. :P

  • @directionlessstudios7210

    @directionlessstudios7210

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sf2590 yes, I know that. That’s the whole “gotcha” of his shtick. That’s why I’m attacking along the lines of it being too disproportionate for him. 54 cents is too disproportionate to 9 cents, apparently. Additionally, regardless of numbers, there’s this this thing called context. A parallel port sound card is going to cost you, regardless of how good a deal you get on the host PC. When that crosses a line for anyone, they can use DOSbox or buy a proportionately more expensive PC if they wish to feel wrapped in the warm arms of proportionality. But nobody is actually trying to buy anything here. Just dealing out cheap gotchas over the internet with disingenuous interest. :)

  • @philippg8071
    @philippg80714 жыл бұрын

    Man. I must start crying, when I see Stunts and Prince of Persia. My first Gaming experience with 7years on christmas evening ....long ago, 30years now.... I´m old (Thanks for the vid)

  • @RanyBx
    @RanyBx4 жыл бұрын

    I'm always happy to see more Dos related videos from time to time. Those are absolutely my favorite. Keep it up Phil!

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @BitsAndTips
    @BitsAndTips4 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍 It's amazing how you find these bargains and give to these machines a second life! Your instructions to configure the PC are very valuable too, as always... good job! Thank you very much!

  • @VulcanSpock
    @VulcanSpock3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video and the various resources in your webpage. You have enabled me to re-live my childhood memories.

  • @ThePressurizer
    @ThePressurizer4 жыл бұрын

    Oh that glorious PC speaker sound! Brings a tear to my eye.

  • @tomyyoung2624

    @tomyyoung2624

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes PSU

  • @timseaholm7219
    @timseaholm72193 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great video, I just received two of these thin clients and was able to install DOS, I can't wait to get my OPL3LPT, should be coming any day now. Thank you for the great content!!

  • @kami4542
    @kami45424 жыл бұрын

    Nice !! I love VIA CPUs, even though back in the day they were bought mainly for their low power draw, now they are really good for DOS sensitive games and more options is always better :D even though I still love the Pentium MMX, you showed really well its versatility with your 136 in 1 retro CPU video :)

  • @sixthview
    @sixthview4 жыл бұрын

    This is just what I was looking for. Not for gaming but I program in QB often for fun. This will be a perfect solution! Thank you!

  • @turbo6780
    @turbo67804 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video once again! Please make more of these retro PC videos they're great! :D

  • @exhumorboy
    @exhumorboy4 жыл бұрын

    next a windows 95 gaming pc? command and conquer, starcraft, half life...

  • @Technocrat.

    @Technocrat.

    4 жыл бұрын

    commander keen here we come

  • @Cyberbrickmaster1986

    @Cyberbrickmaster1986

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Technocrat. Commander Keen is still obtainable on Steam and on 3D Realms websites, except Keen 6 since it's stuck in copyright limbo.

  • @wizard_pirate_9085

    @wizard_pirate_9085

    3 жыл бұрын

    98 and now we're talking

  • @BuckyKat9999
    @BuckyKat99994 жыл бұрын

    Stunts was the BEST game! Wow what memories! Making your own tracks was so amazing for the time, and that F1 car had the best grip!

  • @armorgeddon

    @armorgeddon

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's an Indycar, a March Porsche. Porsche tried to conquer Indycar and most of all the Indianapolis 500 after McLaren's switch to Honda in F1 left Porsche with no financier of their F1 engine. Stunts is an awesome game, I still play it from time to time.

  • @BuckyKat9999

    @BuckyKat9999

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@armorgeddon Good knowledge ;)

  • @armorgeddon

    @armorgeddon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha thanks! I've been following motorsports since the late 80s & along the way gathered a lot of geeky knowledge about it.

  • @frizfryy
    @frizfryy4 жыл бұрын

    I love the thin client videos! For $150 I picked up a HP T730 Thin Client with a AMD RX-427BB w/R7 graphics, USB 3.0, gigabit LAN, dual-band WiFi & Bluetooth upgraded to 16GB RAM, 256GB SATA M. 2, AMD Radeon RX 550 4GB, and windows 10 Pro. Runs DOSbox, and steam games very well and it's silent.

  • @valentonto
    @valentonto4 жыл бұрын

    You are definitely my favorite hardware channel

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @ksp1278
    @ksp12784 жыл бұрын

    Interesting idea. A cool little PC. I also want a small form factor DOS machine so I have bought a Pentium III 400Mhz laptop and gutted it. Without the battery, keyboard, PCMCIA slots, and LCD screen it is actually very compact. It even has a built in OPL3 MIDI sound chip. My next task is to see if I can get CD Audio out of it, obviously many games in the Pentium DOS era had background music on CD. The laptop only cost me £23 plus £7 postage. Although I did get lucky. It was listed as spares or repair and described as not working. But it did actually work fine.

  • @LuisEMartinez89
    @LuisEMartinez893 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phils...this is the best option available for building a retro pc, and It is the more affordable option I´ve seen since those hp thin client are very very cheap on my country...after seen this I am sure I will grab one of these. Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @LuisEMartinez89

    @LuisEMartinez89

    3 жыл бұрын

    @PhilsComputerLab have you try the Wyse V90LE Client? It´s the one I have and it looks promising and sure it is for a retro pc...if you can review it I would be gratefull with you.

  • @timseaholm7219
    @timseaholm72193 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great video, I was stumped on why the OPL3LPT was not working on Monkey Island and the game crashed when I tried to open it. Using the setmul utility fixed the problem and now I can here adlib music instead of the PC speaker! Thank you!!!!!!!

  • @fribbledom5256
    @fribbledom52564 жыл бұрын

    Showcasing Battle Chess without an actual fight animation... blasphemy! 😄

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'll keep it in mind for next time :D

  • @MrSamadolfo

    @MrSamadolfo

    4 жыл бұрын

    😊 yeah i was expecting at least one battle animation

  • @ChrisPrimeish

    @ChrisPrimeish

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was fully expecting to see some pawn-knight jimmy-kicking goodness when this game came up, was disappoint

  • @ChrisPrimeish

    @ChrisPrimeish

    4 жыл бұрын

    (I like the video and the client though!)

  • @garrettspencer3887
    @garrettspencer38874 жыл бұрын

    oh yessss i remember these games just supported u bro

  • @alexc3504
    @alexc35044 жыл бұрын

    That's really cool. Thanks for sharing. Nice to know you don't have to buy bulky annoying craptastic super old 90s beige boxes and you can have a tiny little low power DOS machine. I bet it's very efficient in terms of power.

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer29864 жыл бұрын

    The small size is a nice advantage too!

  • @JoeyRivers
    @JoeyRivers4 жыл бұрын

    2007: when RAM size is double the storage of the unit.

  • @infamousacidrain

    @infamousacidrain

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s a thin client. They typically load software over the network or just act as a Remote Desktop client. Nothing special about 2007 in this regard.

  • @NickB
    @NickB3 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful thanks Phil. The Rhine II network card also works, it needs the FETPKT packet driver for Mtcp.

  • @chrisholt5001
    @chrisholt50014 жыл бұрын

    brings back my childhood

  • @Iam_Dunn
    @Iam_Dunn4 жыл бұрын

    DOS always had the ability to support optical drives. They all came with their own external drivers. Usually a 5 minute process to install. AliExpress sells external USB external DVD’s. I use them on service calls all the time (especially these days in the age of flash drives). Finding a DOS driver for one would definitely be a challenge. :)

  • @itzcaseykc
    @itzcaseykc Жыл бұрын

    Since this looks to be a decent little basic unit and a 32-bit system, it will allow me to run old software and equipment alike that my other systems won't. Thanks for putting this out there. The only drawback is, it didn't cost me $9 US dollars, but it was less than $27 which isn't too bad for a PC with nostalgic-style abilities. It comes with a keyboard & mouse, power cords, software CD, and a stand.

  • @TheGoodOldGamer
    @TheGoodOldGamer4 жыл бұрын

    Nice find man! A few bucks for some old DOS goodness :)

  • @prozzac85
    @prozzac854 жыл бұрын

    We still use HP thin clients like that at work. They're not really good for modern internet, but they're good enough for the ancient programs that keeps the mine working. Maybe I should ask IT if I can have a couple of them if they get replaced....

  • @directionlessstudios7210
    @directionlessstudios72104 жыл бұрын

    Great project. Love it. I want the Parallel OPL! :D

  • @capitanurobert9447
    @capitanurobert94474 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always!

  • @Guitar88
    @Guitar883 жыл бұрын

    Wow nostalgia,my childhood till 8-9 years old then came the PSX/PS One, in stunts when you pick an opponent they have funny Animations, and you can build your tracks too, in Prince of persia if you pass the first level without picking the sword you gain it at lvl 2,great memories.

  • @schlechtj1
    @schlechtj14 жыл бұрын

    Phil, you can use a program called mo'slo to limit the processor speed in dos in a more controlled manner. This program has been around since 1990. Good luck!

  • @SeaJay_Oceans
    @SeaJay_Oceans3 жыл бұрын

    Good Design for ON A BUDGET ! Good Job!

  • @lemontangs
    @lemontangs4 жыл бұрын

    More love for the t5530!!! I couldn't hit the like button hard enough.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea it's a great little machine :D

  • @kyles8524

    @kyles8524

    4 жыл бұрын

    careful not to break your screen

  • @alessioscandy

    @alessioscandy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@philscomputerlab may I ask if it would OK also for a Win98 retro-pc? Also to get sound. Thank you!

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alessioscandy I'm not sure, I didn't try Windows 98 or ME with this machine. It all depends on the drivers, if they are available for that OS.

  • @mesterak
    @mesterak4 жыл бұрын

    Zero of these thin clients on eBay in the states. Good thing I have 5 different ones I bought previously because of Phil’s videos 👍

  • @OverTallman

    @OverTallman

    4 жыл бұрын

    You serious? eBay is swamped with these ex-business computers and thin clients. Just found some sweet offers of HP t510s, would definitely buy one if the shipping cost wasn't expensive (I'm from Hong Kong)

  • @rm1floyd
    @rm1floyd4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I think I will try this!

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis4 жыл бұрын

    You should look into the Neoware CA2 thin client. It's also a C3 processor, but it has an ISA/PCI riser. I have a couple of them and they make fantastic little retro gaming machines. I put an ALS100 Plus sound card in mine with a Dreamblaster S2 on the wavetable header. If you don't have one, I'd be willing to send you one for the cost of shipping.

  • @pierregrobbelaar9116
    @pierregrobbelaar91164 жыл бұрын

    Man i still have some dos games.Just for nostalgia sake.I would love to see older hardware.I can remember back in the day i had a 386sx x2 it had 2 cpu's and 32mb of ram(could only read 24mb back then)It ran with my friends 486 dx 2 in games.

  • @MasterDrood
    @MasterDrood4 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome, I making myself a vid on actual pc gaming on the thin client t630, is an unknown territory and this just shows they are more than meets the eye and are incredibly cheap

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hmm I believe I worked with the 620. Has an AMD APU, quite capable and ran XP but can also run Windows 10.

  • @MasterDrood

    @MasterDrood

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@philscomputerlab sempai noticed me @_@, but yeah I have it running Windows 10 and that one is 4 cores apu with r7 gpu. Is pretty amazing though and so far there is not much about gaming on thin clients

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MasterDrood I believe I used the 620 Plus which has PCIe slot and installed a GT 1030. It was quite capable, but the CPU was a bit of a bottleneck. Still, if you can get a good price, it's a really well rounded machine.

  • @MasterDrood

    @MasterDrood

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@philscomputerlab that t630 is 2.0 boost to 2.2 4 cores it doesn't have pcie natively but I will be making a frankenstein usin an m.2 adapter. I'll reach you out once is done so you can take a look

  • @AdmiralDock
    @AdmiralDock4 жыл бұрын

    I think Zany Golf killed my ears... Cool little machine though, thanks for showing it :)

  • @retro8263
    @retro82634 жыл бұрын

    Price like for Pi Zero Great shot Phil

  • @daveh4914
    @daveh49143 жыл бұрын

    I actually did something similar. I found someone selling Wyse R90lw thin clients for about $15 each a couple years ago. They were running the embedded standard 2009 version of XP, so they were well suited to run old software that doesn't play nicely with newer versions of Windows. I had an old pc dedicated to that, but it and its components were all close to two decades old, so I figured I needed to get something a tad newer to run my ancient software.

  • @fattomandeibu
    @fattomandeibu Жыл бұрын

    I use something similar to this as a smart box for my dad's TV so he can watch Netflix, KZread etc. without splashing out on a new TV. It's a later variant that has HDMI, but still cost less than $30. Really useful little things.

  • @blai5e730
    @blai5e7304 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see some of those retro games. You should add the original PC version of Tetris and Captain Comic 4.

  • @thecount25
    @thecount254 жыл бұрын

    Neoware CA2, I was able to upgrade it to a PIII Tualatin 1.4GHz (the Korean modded one on eBay) by just adding a small fan and it has an ISA slot and better DOS compatibility.

  • @Konsker
    @Konsker3 жыл бұрын

    love the games in the video

  • @amras94
    @amras944 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil, I was wondering if you've heard before of the eXoDOS project. It's basically one person bundling DOS games (no scene rips, only proper dumps) and pre-configuring them for use with various versions of DOSBox so the average user doesn't have to worry about specific quirks of games or different CPU speeds messing things up. I find it to be a really nice alternative for a dedicated DOS PC. It also prevents you from needing more specific hardware, since it comes with pre-configured MT-32 support, SB, AdLib, GUS, it even has some support for Voodoo 2 emulation so you can play certain early 3D DOS games more easily

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    While I haven't heard of this project, it sounds great! I have used the DOSBox ECE project, that works great, has MT-32 and Sound Fonts and all of that as well. The community is so amazing with what people manage to put together...

  • @amras94

    @amras94

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@philscomputerlab eXoDOS uses a mix of DOSBox SVN, Daum and ECE if I recall correctly, depending on what's most compatible with a specific game. I believe V4.0 of the project put the total number of games around the 7000 mark

  • @marccaselle8108

    @marccaselle8108

    Жыл бұрын

    I have used exodos DOS games. Some games don't have their copy protection cracked. For example, secret of the silver blades has copy protection that you can't skip and the game files don't include a crack or lookup table for it.

  • @phoenixbyrd79
    @phoenixbyrd794 жыл бұрын

    I love playing old dos, win3.x/95/98 games on my Samsung Galaxy Note 9 in DeX mode connected to a monitor, keyboard and mouse. Plays everything I throw at it without issues.

  • @michaelturpen5159
    @michaelturpen51594 жыл бұрын

    Targeting the northern hemisphere with this, seeing as you said "wintertime" but it is not wintertime in the southern hemisphere in November

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea good point :)

  • @matcarfer
    @matcarfer4 жыл бұрын

    Well, just bought one. Thank you! I dont mind playing with PC Speakers, thats how I did when I was young. Maybe a followup video on the inside of the pc and expansion options like HDD, PCI, RAM, etc? THANK YOU PHIL

  • @MarkTheMorose

    @MarkTheMorose

    4 жыл бұрын

    This model's not so good for updating.

  • @matcarfer

    @matcarfer

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MarkTheMorose As I read, you are right. Maybe an HDD upgrade. We'll see it when it arrives. Also, I think Win98 could be installed with working sound. Nice

  • @timmooney7528
    @timmooney75284 жыл бұрын

    Some of the thin client models of that era had an expansion option to add a pci port for use with a wireless card. That would be a great way to add a sound blaster and joystick port

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup, we looked at such machines in previous videos!

  • @ricardobornman1698
    @ricardobornman16984 жыл бұрын

    Now if I only had one of these puppies in the 80's 😀💯

  • @summer20105707

    @summer20105707

    4 жыл бұрын

    If only. 2 big words.

  • @retrogeek4372

    @retrogeek4372

    4 жыл бұрын

    You'd have had a hard time transferring data. Other than the parallel port there aren't many things to use with most other PCs of the era. Unless you also include the USB floppy drive.

  • @ricardobornman1698

    @ricardobornman1698

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@retrogeek4372 I use 1980's technology. I believe a flux-capacitor can transfer more then just raw data. (GREAT SCOTT)

  • @sotris99
    @sotris994 жыл бұрын

    i bought that two months ago by accident. woohoo!!!

  • @uctumi
    @uctumi4 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting!! You can also try building a covox speech thing for the parallel port, many games support it, though it's more for wav support than for music.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes you can do that! That Serdaco shop also sells COVOX clones, but the OPL3 Adlib device is so much better IMO. Way more games support Adlib.

  • @rootbeer666
    @rootbeer6664 жыл бұрын

    Wolf3D has an option for digitized (sampled) sound through the PC speaker. It would be interesting to hear how the rendition of it would sound on this machine though the headphone port.

  • @retroboby007
    @retroboby007 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice project. I have the same model. I installed a 4gb dom and installed windows 98. I could install the sound drivers, vinyl_v700b, but no luck with video drivers. Silver lining is that I have sound in dos games running from windows 98 through sound emulation.

  • @RETROMachines
    @RETROMachines Жыл бұрын

    My life is complete. I can die happy now :-)

  • @taskanawa9604
    @taskanawa96044 жыл бұрын

    golden axe is very pc speaker intense. i love dos games

  • @alextirrellRI

    @alextirrellRI

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's trying so hard!

  • @vgjhlgjhfuyfjhfjkhgyghj
    @vgjhlgjhfuyfjhfjkhgyghj4 жыл бұрын

    Wow battle chess. Nice Phil, Niiiiiiice

  • @MC_Papphead
    @MC_Papphead4 жыл бұрын

    5:15 reminded me of "Have a N.I.C.E day" :)

  • @YouTubeYouTube-qg6vl
    @YouTubeYouTube-qg6vl4 жыл бұрын

    Bamboo microprocessor is amazing

  • @RonaldBradycptgmpy
    @RonaldBradycptgmpy4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil, love your content! Especially the stuff on older Xeons and DOS gaming. How compatible with dos 6.22 is an Optiplex 755? I have one laying around

  • @isyrafismady7284
    @isyrafismady72844 жыл бұрын

    That nostalgia

  • @MrSamadolfo

    @MrSamadolfo

    4 жыл бұрын

    😍

  • @riveracollazo
    @riveracollazo4 жыл бұрын

    YESSS CRT!!!!

  • @pattoman5568
    @pattoman55684 жыл бұрын

    Speaker music is the best.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know, right?

  • @MichaelComputerBoy
    @MichaelComputerBoy4 жыл бұрын

    I have a HP Thin Client running Windows NT 4.0 and windows 2000.

  • @MarkTheMorose
    @MarkTheMorose4 жыл бұрын

    I've ended up buying a few thin clients. Inspired by Phil's videos: an HPT610, a (so far) non-working T5730, and a Wyse CX0. Plus a Dell/Wyse Z90D7 (similar spec. to the HPT610), a Teco TR3760B, and a Neoware CA21. The Neoware is interesting. It has an internal PSU so only needs a standard mains lead, and has an 800MHz VIA CPU, VIA CN700 chipset (hopefully supported by Windows 98, and possibly DOS), and has SODIMM and 44-pin IDE connectors. Mine was set to 400MHz CPU speed, but loading the optimal BIOS settings cured that.

  • @OverTallman

    @OverTallman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Try replacing the CMOS battery on your t5730 with a good one, it refuses to boot if the CMOS battery runs out of juice

  • @MarkTheMorose

    @MarkTheMorose

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@OverTallman Thanks; I tried it just now, and while the CMOS battery was indeed dead, replacing it didn't help. I think the thin client has been damaged somehow; maybe a 19v power supply got plugged in instead of a 12v supply, and fried something. I can't see any damage, but I tried a spare CPU and SODIMM. Symptoms: the LED on any supply plugged in flickers on and off, in time with a very quiet 'ticking' sound from the thin client, 2-3 times a second. :(

  • @OverTallman

    @OverTallman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MarkTheMorose Ah that sucks, and yeah HP used 19V on their later models with the same connector which can be confusing

  • @MarkTheMorose

    @MarkTheMorose

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@OverTallman It was sold as 'not working', I was hoping it would be an easy/cheap fix!

  • @EstCrossings
    @EstCrossings4 жыл бұрын

    This is that miniature pc that used to be my dream computer cause it was so small.

  • @pootispiker2866
    @pootispiker28664 жыл бұрын

    It should be noted whatnots like the backpack CD-RW drive exist for parallel optical discs

  • @kolbyte
    @kolbyte4 жыл бұрын

    Хорошая задумка: использовать тонкий клиент в качестве ДОС-машины.

  • @MKlol2
    @MKlol24 жыл бұрын

    Good idea of itx based DOS-PC. Actually I have a little valley itx mainboard with celeron 220 processor, but it seems I must bent it right to make it work. Simply, it can not run placed on non flat surface, its not stable and randomly restarts. At least, worked with PCI SB live! card with pure dos. Too bad for that BGA.

  • @greggv8
    @greggv84 жыл бұрын

    I want to see you try setting up EMS on all these thin clients, especially ones with PS/2 ports and a serial port. Especially if you can get DOS with EMS onto a WYSE Sx0.

  • @adam-xt8te
    @adam-xt8te4 жыл бұрын

    A little fun with dosbox configuration and I got old PC with Norton Commander 5.0 and bunch of great games from 'archive' webpage. For free :))

  • @kyles8524
    @kyles85244 жыл бұрын

    cool but to make it nostalgic the computer needs to be big, yellow and discoloed from sunlight :) lol aka an old dos computer

  • @kyles8524

    @kyles8524

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cyberman7348 go check your local dump then the electronics dump area. I have like 6 old 486 and 386 dos machines that i grabbed from there all working and that was from 1 summer. Some places wont let you take them but if you do just talk to the people there and "say" your going to bring back anything unused and recycle them back to that area if they stop you and ask what your doing.

  • @kyles8524

    @kyles8524

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Funboringness go check your local dump then the electronics dump area , youll eventually run across one. I found 6 in a 4 months span, but I also checked every week sometimes twice

  • @nullsmack

    @nullsmack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah, but they weren't yellow and discolored back in the day.

  • @jothain

    @jothain

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kyles8524 Where on earth do you live? I haven't seen any cool nostalgy rising hardware for...Ages. Oldest hardware I've seen have been about P2/P3 era that can occasionally be seen somewhere. Something like old PS/2 is wet dream here. I was seriously disappointed to hear that one friends parent had tossed C128 desktop to trash years ago. Hardware I knew that was really uncommon to see anywhere. I haven't even seen Amiga 500 for sale for about three years and that was very, very common computer.

  • @RuiNunesDev

    @RuiNunesDev

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are right. Although I'm figuring out if we need the big box at all given the new hardware we can use nowadays: I think the old-school monitor and keyboard are essential.

  • @chazcov08
    @chazcov083 жыл бұрын

    Sehr schön!

  • @Doug_in_NC
    @Doug_in_NC3 жыл бұрын

    Cool, I wanted to do something similar, but the slowest machine I could find was a $15 twin core 2.3 ghz Dell. I slowed it down by taking half the RAM out, switching off all the caches, and running DosBox on top of Ubuntu instead of native DOS and still had to kneecap it by emulating a much slower machine that it could have done. At least I didn’t need to spend more than the machine cost on a sound card 😂😂😂

  • @dcknature
    @dcknature Жыл бұрын

    Nine bucks isn't too bad for a dedicated gaming computer 😂. Unlike that sound device, but it's all about personal preferences. To be honest, when I was young, I wasn't a huge fan of the primitive vintage gaming sounds. However I must admit I'm becoming more and more of a "nostalgia victim" ☺️. Sometimes I miss those lost features, you know. Luckily for me now there's quite a few options out there. As always thanks for the video, Phil 😉👍!

  • @KrissBartlett
    @KrissBartlett4 жыл бұрын

    pretty good Phil but waving the hands still hey !!!!!!

  • @MrPicaso72
    @MrPicaso724 жыл бұрын

    How will this do with DOS4G/GW titles? Also, Can I install DOS from USB with a thumb drive and RUFUS? Great video by the way!

  • @jevgenijobzigailov2376
    @jevgenijobzigailov23763 жыл бұрын

    These thin clients are also perfect personal web servers to run 24/7 because of low power consumption (6-10W) and fanless cooling. I use Dell Wyse from 2015 with N2807 / 4GB RAM / 16GB SSD connected to router as DMZ host with CentOS 7 installed and Let's Encrypt HTTPS website configured It can be used as file or print server, torrent downloader, much more powerful than any 300$ router. Can possibly be upgraded to 8GB RAM and mSata Half SSD up to 1 TB to become VM host for light tasks!

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes agreed!

  • @WolfKenneth
    @WolfKenneth4 жыл бұрын

    Great vid I just skimmed through your vids and hit subscribe. One thing tough, you can find lots of DOS gaming builds, you can find Win98 and WinXP gaming builds but there's no Win95 and from my memory some 95 games didn't work on 98 like fragile alliance, sooooo pretty pretty pleeeeeeeaaaaseeee could you make win95 gaming battle station? Thin client would be best but anything that has 3d acceleration with win95 drivers fast enough for gaming I'd be interested in!

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hmm I'm sure I've done one in the past, but yea, could make for another video!

  • @WolfKenneth

    @WolfKenneth

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@philscomputerlab wow thank you! :)

  • @AndyMitchellUK26
    @AndyMitchellUK264 жыл бұрын

    I got a HP DC7900 Ultra Slim for free a couple of years ago. Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB DDR2 (2x2) and a 160GB SATA drive. It works but it's not stable as I have a power supply that isn't 135 watts. I'm going to pick up a suitable power supply and also upgrade it to a Core 2 Quad and turn it into a retro emulator.

  • @piecaruso97
    @piecaruso974 жыл бұрын

    This is great for a cheap machine, but i got a pentium 3 pc for free and i use the pentium 3 pc got for free, i have my voodoo 3 in there and a nice upgraded sound blaster 32

  • @10minGameplay1
    @10minGameplay14 жыл бұрын

    RIP ears, hopefully no DOS games using the PC speaker in ear heaven.

  • @marccaselle8108
    @marccaselle8108 Жыл бұрын

    I bundled a bunch of DOS floppy games together it's about 230 games and can all by run from one launcher.

  • @explorer9049
    @explorer90494 жыл бұрын

    Watching while playing with my retro pc thin client with a ymf724 PCI sound card. Thin client is a boundless adds 5700 (a distant cousin yet oddly similar to the wortmann terra thin client.)

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice combo!

  • @tiporari
    @tiporari3 жыл бұрын

    Saw a t600 series at Goodwill (thrift) for $3. Passed on it because I have too many computers already, but I didn't even think of putting bare metal DOS on it. Dang it 😂

  • @O.Shawabkeh
    @O.Shawabkeh3 жыл бұрын

    Om my God, I finally know the name of that childhood game at 8:25, Ironman.

  • @travisbeamon5356
    @travisbeamon53564 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap. Need

  • @0525ohhwell
    @0525ohhwell4 жыл бұрын

    Bought one on ebay once I saw the title before even watching.

  • @doug2bitemore
    @doug2bitemore4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid phil! What resolution do these games usually run and do you have issues getting full screen mode with them?

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    DOS games usually run at 320x200 resolution. Everything is full-screen in DOS basically.

  • @larryladeroute971
    @larryladeroute9714 жыл бұрын

    Looks like it would be great for RPG's since no gameport. Did I spy a CRT in the Facebook link to this? Don't believe I have seen you use one before. Nice.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea it's my only CRT! Rescued it from a local business years ago. I only use it on occasions.

  • @georgemaragos2378
    @georgemaragos23784 жыл бұрын

    Hi All Nice review phil, this also cover the gap between , retro / modern / and classic games all at low cost. While i dont have the parallel port opl3 myself, i have wantched you original review and other youtubera and recommended them to people i know and work with and all ( hmm 6 or 7 ) have been very happy with it. Personally i have 2 x Wyse thin clients running the same CPU If you dont want to purchase the add on sound car the re is a no cost fix but it is not perfect. 1. Use a usb stick 1g is fine, but 2 to 4 is alsmot the same price @ $8 AU new for say a famous brand 2. Download Puppy Linux series 5.xx i think i use 5.11 , i have almost all of them, i know i have a CD burned and in texta is has 85 meg or something written on it, also the one i use often was released 2010 - 2013, i have many X86 or i386 versions for older machinery 3. Download either Linux Live USB Creator , or Linux Pen Drive Linux , or maybe even Etcher ( i only really use etcher for the raspbery pie and "current 2015 - linux iso's 4, You can now copy the Linux Puppy ISO to a USB - it will boot up and run in live cd mode, every version of Linux Puppy 5x will when finished as you if youant to save the file, this can be as small as 50 meg, basically it contains all the setting, ini files, driver setting for the machine as you run it now so that it does not have to re test and load then every time,, it also save time / date / location. keyboard s/ all hardware preferences basically 5. If yo use the Linux Live, it will add what is called a "persistent mode", what this is is basically a sleep mode fro windows, it will take a snap shot like windows does before sleep mode and save that as a file, also while running only the runable Cd version you can add new programs eg firefox latest, and it will save to the RAM drive, this is then stored on the USB, so you can use it as a floppy / hard drive, there is a limit on space ( wow maybe only 500 meg to 1 Gig, but that is plenty 6. Run linux puppy, every machine i have used it on ( about 20 at least ) and the 2 wyse clients is has been able to support and get full sound from the chip , it is part of the CPU / GPU, so in Linux you have basically full windows / Soundblaster type sound 7. While not perfect, you get the puppy dosbox and there is another required library, check the puppy forums for file names and link, i do have them on my external hard drive if, you need them i can find the name or supply the files to Phil and ask if he can host them on his web site with drives and support programs , they are small - but no promises from myself on Phils behalf, if in doubt send me a email. This is the no cost way of get full sound out of retro games, but it is the dos box experience not perfect but to me 90% - 90%f ine BTW i am not that big in Linux, but use Puppy from 486 to I7 4xxxgen, i grab my usb and do baking via a session, i find Puppy very underrated as it can run on a low spec machine with say only a early version 4 , will run on a 128 meg Pentium 2 - 233 !!! I also have 2 old Y2k XP style laptops, celeron and pentium M or P , they both run win XP , but FLY with Linux Puppy 4 Puppy 5 needs closer to a 1gig processor, core 2 duo makes it FLY Best thing, you can run it without a harddrive, on a older P2-P43-P4 you can run it with a machine and CD rom only - no need for floppy or hard drive !! - I also have a second Toshiba XP laptop with a dead 44 pin hard drive, and it just only uses the USB in i think "on=pae mode" and it runs of the cdrom or usb stick only ( i keep the cd with 5.3 or 5.4 on it and the usb is 5.6 or 5.7 On the linux thing, all my XP machines to have modern internet and youtube ability i run Linux Puppy, on Pentium 4 2G and higher i run Linux Mint V16 to V19 , start with the base XFCE and work yo way up to Mate and Cinnamon, they are sort of the same, but the higher specs have more options and build in software, you can add software to the base easily , but there are many core differences in the versions ( soft or like win home vs win pro etc ) but much more complex and i dont fully understand it. I also have @2007 Apple core 2 duo, from the days of no virus all apple products only at work So i have my old work Macbook 2 Core2duo, and a Imac 5 i think also@ 2006 2007 and a core 2 duo, both run OSX 10.6 Snow leopard - it is fine as a OS , but modern web broser has not been release d for hmm 4 to 5 years, so many youtube will not play, you can get away with pasting the link is VLC but that is annoying and does not always work - both those machine have LinuxMint installed and i dual boot with a program called rEFIT, as these 3 machine have strange combo 32 and 64 bit UEFI ( and 64 bit CPU's ) , all done to run the pre 10.6 OSX and also compatible with classic mac -pre OSX ( 7 - 9 ???) My dailydriver is dual booting and testing Manjaro for now Regards George

  • @aliyuksel2689
    @aliyuksel26894 жыл бұрын

    hey phil :) I've got a setup with a e5-2689, x79 machinist board and 1866 mhz quad channel but im hitting only 977 cb in cinebench r15. Do you think that is normal?

  • @dr_b_bass
    @dr_b_bass4 жыл бұрын

    I have the hp t610 plus and was thinking of using it as a windows 98/dos machine and was wondering if the parellel port audio device wud benefit a setup like that? Ive had loads of problems with audio drivers on every 98/dos machine I've tried to put together. Also: if u havent played Frederick pohls gateway before it's an awesome game and wud love to see it featured in a future dos/98 video!

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    That machine doesn't have all the 98 drivers, I used it with Windows XP though! But in DOS, yea the parallel port should work just fine.

  • @TitoxUnixverse
    @TitoxUnixverse4 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video! What do you prefer T5730 or this T5530?

  • @Russell970
    @Russell9704 жыл бұрын

    Next video: $69 DOS Retro Gaming PC with the THICC Client

  • @five5105

    @five5105

    4 жыл бұрын

    *Nice.*

  • @PiercedJedi
    @PiercedJedi4 жыл бұрын

    a friend of mine just gave me an intel NUC, I know they're not thin clients, but I love the tiny form factor, I'd love to see what you could do with one of those

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