For a U-series and only at 15W, this is Amazing! I'm hoping OEMs start configuring them with good GPUs in the near future.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, it's great how much power you can get in a lower powered chip these days, great option for ultrabooks!

@ahmedp800

6 жыл бұрын

And even on tablets, like Surface Pro which uses 15W CPUs too.

@ronaldckrausejr7762

6 жыл бұрын

Try Eurocom Chances are, they have more than one laptop with both a U series and also quite the variety of graphics cards options - even SLI. If for some reason you do not see what you want, they can build that laptop for you. I've never found one single company that can build laptops better than Eurocom. Completely serviceable and upgradeable

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah Eurocom use the Clevo chassis, similar to the Metabox laptops that I review here on the channel, good range of options for decent pricing.

@freusin

5 жыл бұрын

the TDP up is 25W according to Intel

I'll be honest, you earned my sub. This video is so professional.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I ve watched so many of your videos man and I just realized I wasnt even subscribed... And more shocking, you dont even have 100k subs yet? Your videos are excellent, straight to the point, informative and easy to understand. Subscribed, great job +

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and welcome! Hopefully we'll make it there one day with support like that 😁

does these laptop support 4K out at60hz also can you do a 500 RAW image 1:1 preview build benchmark mark in Lightroom, then exporting them as jpeg.

doing all the important laptop comparison tests that we need. subbed!

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

45W v 15W... 8th gen Intel's are really really good. They could have done this long time ago... just didn't care due to no competition on the market... Things are changing :)

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah probably, I think AMD's CPUs have definitely pushed them to put out some better stuff!

You deserve way more views for amount of work you have done! subscribed! :)

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

+yash paliwal thanks!

Most detailed and best quality channel on comparing GPU and CPU that I have ever seen.... KEEP IT UP, I will support you from now on.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

so guys, for programming and video editing, which processor is the one to go? Thanks

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I'd probably pick the 7700HQ for that, I have a feeling the improved multicore speeds would be beneficial there.

I notice the current P52S has a 8550U Processor installed. Is the cooling better for P52S than in the laptop shown in this video?

@JarrodsTech

4 жыл бұрын

Probably, but I haven't tested it so cannot confirm.

Hi I got this problem with my i7 8550u once I open any game the CPU speed stuck at 1.79GHz , but when I do something else the speed is 3Ghz-3.9Ghz please help me ♥

I'm a little confused by how TDP wattage works. Is that the hard max on how much power a chip will draw (and heat it will put out)? Or will the 8550U actually draw more than 15W when it is using turboboost?

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

It depends on the configuration of the specific laptop, but in general, the 8750h has a 45w TDP. When you smash it with a CPU benchmark in all cores it will run at the TDP defined in "turbo boost short power max", which may be something higher like 58w. It will stay like this for the period defined in "turbo boost power time window", which is usually 28 seconds. After 28 seconds, the TDP drops down to the number specified in "turbo boost power max", which is typically the TDP number specified for the chip, 45w in the case of the 8750h, and this is when power limit throttling starts happening, because the CPU is being limited and can't perform fully. You can use Intel XTU to view these values, and depending on the CPU you may also be able to modify them. The 8850h for example can have the power limited boosted by the user, so as long as there's no thermal throttling the increase to TDP will result in increased performance

What is the program at the beginning of the video? I see it at many channel but I dont know its name... Can you tell me?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

It's the Heaven benchmark from Unigine.

Hey guys, do you recommend 8250U for editing/rendering on the go (e.g. when you are in a train and pluged in with the power cable) ? Because i really think of buying this in the future :)

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I had my first laptop with the 8250U about aweek ago, I'm going to compare it with the 8550U in a future video. With some undervolting though I was able to get stock 8550U performance on the 8250U in some cases, so it's fairly good and I think it would go ok at that task, but generally something that can sustain higher all core turbo speed like the 7700hq/8750h would probably work a bit better. Also of course depends on what you're exporting and settings etc, for instance I probably wouldn't want to use it to export long 4k footage unless you've got a lot of time 😛

How's that Motospeed V30 RGB mouse? Still working properly? : )

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yep still working well!

how is the Asus vivobook s15 with the i7 8550u? I am considering buying that.are there any better options at that price range?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

+Vinay@HD hmm not too sure, I recently did a review of the vivobook with 7700hq, and if I recall it did an acceptable job at keeping it cool, so if it was alright there I suspect it would be pretty good for the 8550u too as it's a lower power chip, I haven't tested this myself so this is just my best guess based on the information at hand

Hey Jarrod, currently using my 3610QM and want to update to a 8550U. Primary use is Revit, Autocad, Adobe suite and 3d modeling. Would you recomend me the u processor or wait for the new 8700HQ ? Thanks!

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I'd probably wait myself, I think it's going to be called the 8850H with 6 cores, hopefully I'll be able to get one and compare the 7700hq with it in a future video

recently purchased hp laptop having spec of laptop i7 8550U 1.8 GHZ processor 8 gen 12 gb ram and nivedia GEFORCE 940 MX graphic card but from starting of the day i am experiencing very lag in it, and it is also very slow, can''t play any game on it without lag, even while playing cod and pubg mobile emuator i am facing lots of lag in it. what to do , any suggestions!!!!

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

940MX just isn't very good unfortunately, you'll need to play much less demanding games.

I5 8250U gtx1050 2gb 12gb ram ? Do you recommend it for a little gaming ? (Some new games but not long period gameplay)

@JarrodsTech

4 жыл бұрын

It would be ok for light gaming, maybe low settings in many games, eSports titles should be ok

At exactly what Celcius does the 8550U throttle at? With the newest windows 10 update i noticed sth enabled on my laptop "BD PROCHOT" and my laptop was throttling at 70C. When i disabled that it didnt throttle again and temps went up to 75-80C. Can you give info about the thermals of the 8550U?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

It went up to 99c really fast before dropping back a lot really quick. Other than that and what's included in the video I'm not sure there's much more I can offer, I have since sent the laptop back as I only had it temporarily for review so I can't do any further testing.

@theblitz1687

6 жыл бұрын

that answers my question, thanks ^^

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Great! No problem :)

Hi. Which cpu would you reccomend for BIM softwares like Revit and Archicad? Thanks a lot, it's and excellent video!!

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Out of all laptop CPUs? Something like the new 8750H would be good, I can't really find out if those programs prefer single or multicore though, in either case that one is good at both. If you're picking between these two in this video I'd probably go the 7700HQ as it's got a higher TDP and will generally perform better over a longer period of time.

i should buy a laptop with i7 8550u with mx150 video card OR i5 7300hq with gtx1050 video card??? they same price but im confused about which is better?

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

I think 7300HQ and 1050 will overall be a better option.

hi , can you tell me which one is better for me, I am a drug designer using strong applications like Matlab and 3dmax and a Gaussian a program which need a very strong processor, Asus zenbook 7700hq or Asus with 8550u or any brand

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know how that program utilizes the CPU. If it depends on consistent multicore performance, then the 7700HQ, though ideally the newer i5-8300H or i7-8750H are a fair bit better than even the 7700HQ and are worth considering.

Wow! for a 15w processor, this is incredibly impressive.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's for sure, although I heard Dell run it at 20w or 25w and is one of the best laptops with the 8550U, but I didn't check that for some reason during my testing.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah some give it more power than others.

@kolby3636

6 жыл бұрын

Pokemon Master but isn’t the surface book 2 15in capped at 20w?

@ryemeads5373

6 жыл бұрын

@@kolby3636 yeah it is.

@albyshinyfield8841

2 жыл бұрын

Mine jumped up to 40.9 once but I can’t seem to get it past 20 now. It’s very hit and miss. I’m optimising it but it’s rather hard

YANR! I wanted this compare for so long! Thank You for that! Maybe You could use Thunderbolt with external GPU and LCD for some more detailed tests? That would kick ass!

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'd like to, but I still don't have any external GPU enclosures to test with at the moment.

@Valnjes

6 жыл бұрын

You should get it for testing, but it must be with an external display, because you loose some performance when rendering it back on the laptop display.

Great review, as usual.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Good to hear you liked it 😃

is the PUBG gameplay shown in the video only uses the Intel 8550u? or the whole laptop. also, i bought the Dell Aspiron 15 5000, will the cooling system handle a 4 hour gaming use ? thanks in advanced

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

The Dell XPS 13 that I was testing with only has the 8550u, no discrete graphics, so it was the CPU running it at around 11 FPS on minimum settings. I don't personally have any experience with that model, but from what I can see online it looks alright.

@ramishamon4899

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech will it be able to sustain above 50fps?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I'm really not sure at all, I haven't done any testing with 7th gen U processors, or AMD mobile graphics, so difficult for me to say, you could try looking for some benchmarks with that hardware to get the most accurate estimate.

Is there a reason you used integrated gpu laptops instead of those with a dedicated gpu? Other than the budget, i mean.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, the laptop with the 8550U did not come with a dedicated GPU, so it was the only option for testing games. I figured it might still be worth testing because many laptops with this CPU are thin ultrabooks that also don't have dedicated graphics, so I wanted to see what the difference was like.

Nice job by the way, as always.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Do you Tell me the temperature about these processors in full load? Thanks

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

I don't mention it here, because as mentioned both laptops are completely different with different cooling solutions. The 7700HQ for instance is in a thick laptop while the 8550U in a thin Dell XPS 13. If you want the temperatures of the 8550U you can check the review of the XPS 13 I've done, as for the 7700HQ you can check reviews on laptops I've done with that (such as the Alienware 13, MSI GE63VR 7RF, or Dell 7577 for a few examples) and you'll see the results vary quite a bit between laptops due to the unique cooling solutions.

I wonder what kind of performance gain you would get if you repasted the XPS 13 with better thermal paste?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah could be better, not something I can do with a review unit unfortunately

Hey guys im thinking of buying an Alienware gaming laptop but i have the option to choose betweeen the i7 7700hq and the i7 8750h. Which one do you recommend for gaming and converting files n stuff...??

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

8750H performs better in both single core and multi core workloads, 50% more cores and slightly faster clock speeds so assuming all else the same, I'd be going for that. I'm going to do a comparison video in the near future between the two though, so there will be more detail there 😃

@seropstephanian6031

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech thanks a lot :))

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

No worries!

7700hq or 8550 u for 2 in 1 convertible with casual gaming and editing also some video related stuff? I am stucked up on buying lenovo 720 with 7 this generation and it's new 730 with 8th g

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Assuming both also have discrete graphics in that form factor is probably get the 8550u myself

@lilaramtrivedi2414

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech thanks brah

Mine Mx150 4GB gaming I7 8550u Ram 8 There's big difference ?

Great video. For normal use, if you can save on a 7th gen do then? I have been trying to buy a laptop for a few months now, and when I say trying I mean I have been overwhelmed by all of the options. I have a £700 grant from uni to replace my laptop: a HP ProBook 4250s (3rd gen i3 I think?) I'm not sure whether I should get something like an Acer Swift 3 with an i5 8th gen or get an older more premium model with a decent keyboard, like a 6th or 7th gen i5 Lenovo thinkpad. Although i do game, I will be using it mainly for writing, browsing and netflix. Its great to have so many options, but madding when you are as indecisive as I am! My old laptop met all my performance needs for 6 years but its started to overheat and the battery doesn't hold a change anymore. Any recommendations would help a lot!

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

For uni I'd be looking at picking what ever would best last over a longer period of time, so good build quality is important, so would lightweight and portability. Realistically though I think an i5 from 6th or 7th generation would be fine for what you're doing, although for netflix keep in mind that 7th gen is needed if you want the 4k hardware decoding :)

@jailbrokenapfel

6 жыл бұрын

Hi, i was loking for a Ultrabook. I thought about the Acer Swift 3 with the i5 8th, but the LCD seems not that good. I found the new Lenovo Yoga 720 with the I5 8th www.amazon.de/Lenovo-Convertible-Notebook-i5-8250U-Windows/dp/B0769NXSZ8 You can charge it via USB Type C, so i only need one cable for my phone and my notebook. This is the best device that i found. Maybe you take a look at it :)

@jailbrokenapfel

6 жыл бұрын

Oh sorry ... You sayed you want to game... So maybe you need the MX150.

@PQuinn-xn6em

6 жыл бұрын

Jailbroken Apfel thanks for the reply! I considered the Acer but the screen quality did put me off too. Laptops are very expensive in Ireland. What's 600 dollars in the US may be 1000 here. The 720 is close to the price of an xps in some configurations. I have a discount with dell so think I'm going to go for a Insperion 15 7570, 8th gen i5, 250 SSD and 940mx. A bit bland but ticks all the boxes for what I need it for!

@jailbrokenapfel

6 жыл бұрын

Nice, these seems to be good too. I'm still not sure which laptop i want to buy. I thought about an Laptop with the MX150 but NVIDEA GeforceNow is about to get released and then i can play games remote. So mabye just an ultrabook with the i5 8th, mabye touch, and of course Type c. Pls report if you are happy with the Dell inspiron 15.

love the vids.. ive been looking for a I5 VS I7 on your channel... Do you have one? if not...you should make one..I heard I7 is only about 10% better than I5... ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

+Tank Connors cheers! Not yet unfortunately, most of the laptops I've been sent for review so far usually have an i7, I really want to compare with others such as i5 but it just depends on what I'm able to get. I'll try a bit harder to get some i5 CPUs and do some more comparisons 😀

@tankconnors7323

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech lol. No stress man. Keep up the great vids. Have a good one!

@bradhaines3142

6 жыл бұрын

doesnt the XPS have an i5 and an i7 option? thatd be about as direct of a comparison as you could do

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it does, the 2017 generation has i3 and i5 while the newer 2018 version has i5 as an option.

I’m confused about differences between the usage of Single Cores and Multi Cores. Isn’t it an automatic process?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, but depends on the application. Some older applications, and most games for that matter, rely more on having high single core speeds and don't really use multiple cores, whereas others do, depends on the program.

I've been watching reviews of the Kaby Lake R and there's only 1 concern that is thermal management. This processor is perfect for long-battery life 15 inch laptops, run at 28W TDP with proper cooling would be awesome.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, still it's a step up from the 7th gen U series which were dual core, being able to get 4 cores in ultrabooks this powerful is pretty awesome!

Wow, that is so great and also i noted that the U series always a lot more colder than HQ, M and K series while they kept the same efficiency almost with other series.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a nice increase, the main problem seems to be that the CPU is usually in thin ultrabooks and doesn't get enough cooling to sustain multicore workloads.

@MrSUPERHUGE

6 жыл бұрын

Psst, just open ARK and look for Memory Specifications and PCI Express Configuration for 7700HQ. You don't need tests to understand that HQ is better than any offcut U shit!

I've been searching information on processors for a while now and your information was more informative than anything else I've viewed. I currently have the 7700HQ with a 512 SSD in the 15" Lenovo 720 with the Nvidia GEFORCE 1050 GTX as well as UHD 4K screen. I purchased but can cancel my order for the Lenovo 730 15" with the 8550U (with turbo boost), a 1TB PCIe SSD and the Nvidia GEFORCE 1050. However, the 730 comes at $1750 whereas I picked up the 720 for $900. Is it worth the upgrade or should I wait for the upcoming processors?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Good to hear it was useful! I suspect a large part of the price difference would be the 1TB PCIe SSD, so hard to know how much of the price is the CPU difference. To be honest I'm not sure if there will be many new laptop CPUs coming in the near future, as the 8th generation seems to be mostly out for the most part, might be some new slightly different skews but in terms of architecture differences that would probably come with the 9th generation which I'd guess would be maybe a year off.

@maugha100

6 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking as well. I had the Yoga 900 for 3 years and cracked the screen, thus the current search. My kids brought home the 720 and it's truly a great computer, but I don't plan on upgrading for several years so want to get something I will be happy with for the long term. The decked out 920 was only $200 cheaper with only a 256 PCIe SSD and 8 gigs and no UHD and cannot carry the NVIDIA graphics card. I went ahead and purchased because the price differential was so low to include UHD, NVidia and the 1TB PCIe...it just didn't make sense not to upgrade.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've heard a lot of good things about the 720, I really want to check it out myself but unfortunately I haven't been able to get in contact with anyone at Lenovo yet. Fair enough in that case I'd probably have just done the same :)

As a 7700hq owner this made me sad, but its a great video none-the less! good work man this comparison hadn't even crossed my mind.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm not too fussed myself, still using my 6700HQ every day with no issues 😃 if anything I'm excited to see how good the rest of the 8th gen is!

@MrSUPERHUGE

6 жыл бұрын

Psst, just open ARK and look for Memory Specifications and PCI Express Configuration for 7700HQ. You don't need tests to understand that HQ is better than any offcut U shit!

@ElvisChibundu

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSUPERHUGE false

Missed a big point in the conclusion... 45W top of the line consumer laptop chip being dealt huge blows by it's power sipping 15W new gen ultra mobile cousin... That's not just some incremental upgrade.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps I didn't talk about it well enough, I guess I just assumed that was an obvious point. In any case, I'm comparing it with another CPU in a different video soon and I've talked about that more clearly. Also the 8550U in the XPS 13 is configured to use the max 25W, so that narrows the difference a bit, again I clarify that better in the new video.

@DanHartwigMusic

6 жыл бұрын

Very good comparison video, though, I enjoy stuff like this and you do it well.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

@MrSUPERHUGE

6 жыл бұрын

Psst, just open ARK and look for Memory Specifications and PCI Express Configuration for 7700HQ. You don't need tests to understand that HQ is better than any offcut U shit!

Great video! Any idea when 8700H laptops with new GPUs will be available? Rough estimate?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard anything official, most of the rumours seem to indicate a few months away but not sure, can't wait to get some and do more comparisons!

@akarna69

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech Yeah. I'm planning to buy a new gaming laptop, probably the new ge63 Raider from MSI. Definitely worth the wait, right?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

If you don't need it right now I'd personally wait, if you do need it right now the 7700HQ will probably still be a great option for years to come, especially if you don't need more than 4 cores.

@akarna69

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech Thanks for your input. Keep up the good work, you got some of the best tech videos on KZread.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

No problem! Cheers :)

Your vidoes have quality i must say that. I wanna ask shall i wait for 8700HQ laptops or buy Dell Inspiron 7577 with 7700HQ ? What's your suggestion ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! While I think the Dell 7577 is a great option, at this point I'd probably hold on for a few months (hopefully, no one knows for sure!) and see what the next generation has to offer, as the older stuff has been around for a bit now, and although it's still good in theory the new options could reduce the prices of the 7th gen laptops a bit, so either way it should be win win I think :) that said I still get by day to day with my 6th gen 6700HQ and have no issues, so the 7700HQ is likely still a good option for a while to come if you do need something right now.

@akshaysharma9894

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech Thanks for the suggestion.

@skirmich

6 жыл бұрын

The 8700HQ will obviously be better but its still many months before its even announced... So... The 7700HQ is still a great CPU and should give you many years of high end use.

@BigEightiesNewWave

6 жыл бұрын

Agree !

@skirmich

6 жыл бұрын

The 8850H is replacing the 7920HQ AFAIK.

Very good presentation. Seems like the 8550U quad-core is the new streamline for laptops. Trying to motivate consumers with older dual-core laptops to upgrade. Users who have existing quad cores won't see much benefit.

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers! yeah pretty much, would be interesting to compare with the new i5-8300H quad core too, as I've found that around 10% faster than the i7-7700HQ.

please need an advise. first thankx for making a wonderful video. i recently bought a Lenovo yoga 720 13" with i7 8550u processor , 8GB DDR4-2400 and intel UHD 620 , i am quite happy with this laptop since it is highly portable and quite more than my asus Rog G551jw which i recently have sold. i have two questions , Ram is 8gb which is soldered , Am i ever be able to extend/increase it? 2nd questions is that i love to play games , i use to play like resident evil 7 , silent hill , tom rider new series etc. Am i be able to play games on this laptop as i played with asus rog G551jw series.i have 1x Thunderbolt 3, 1x USB-C 3.0 , can i find a cheap alternative feks external graphics card /egpu to play these type of games. any help will be appriciated.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Typically if the memory is soldered to the board you can't replace it, maybe if you really know what you're doing regarding desoldering and buy the proper memory to install it you could do it, but really risky unless you have experience with that. Without a discrete GPU in the laptop an external enclosure would be your best bet of actually being able to play games, it should be possible with your Thunderbolt 3 port, I recently reviewed an eGPU enclosure here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnyX0rKpf7yac7w.html

Can Dell outlet inspiron 15-5570 play games like PUBG? how many fps?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I've only tested the 7577 so can't really comment, you could look up benchmarks of that game running on laptops with the same specs though.

is there an HQ version of 8th gen? must be really fast

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Not yet, I think the 7700HQ will be replaced by the 8850H, but we'll have to wait and see. I should be able to get it once it's out and do some comparisons with it 😃

Good video. Subbed

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers! Glad you liked it 😃

Which one is best for 3d renedering and 3d max work in this two types

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I'd probably go the 7700hq for that out of the two, better sustained multicore performance. Even better would be the 8750h, working on a comparison between that and 7700hq at the moment

I think u can help with my problems: i have i7 8550u and mx130 amd i think its bottlenecking.Ingame like on cs go i get smooth gameplay but sometimes i get like 10/20 fps for 10/15 seconds.Tips?

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

MX130 is extremely weak, but I'd expect better performance than that. Check task manager or something and confirm the MX130 is actually being used and not the Intel 8550U graphics.

@Andrea-to5ey

5 жыл бұрын

@@JarrodsTech yeah im sure im using it,toggled on by the nvidia panel.

@MisterAlerion

5 жыл бұрын

You should repaste and undervolt slightly perhaps disable turbo boost

3:36 can you tell me the laptop model?

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

It's the ASUS ZenBook Pro.

THANKS YOUR VIDEO HELPED ME.

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

NO PROBLEM

What is the difference between Intel i7-8550U and i7-8750H, specifically between the U and H ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

The H has a higher 45W TDP and 6 cores/12 threads as well as higher base and boost clock speeds, so it should be better, but I'll do a full comparison video between them once I get an 8750H laptop for testing 😀

Hey I just bought a acer laptop that has 8gb ram 1tb hdd core i7 8th gen and a nvidia mx130 gpu combined with the built in graphics card, is it a good laptop in ur opinion

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

What is it for? Sounds fine for general use, but the graphics are quite low if you want to use it for gaming.

@hamoodibros6872

5 жыл бұрын

@@JarrodsTech I use it to play a game called league of legends and it runs absolutely fine at around 200 fps and some other school projects and stuff

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be fine it would run well on basically anything.

Is the 8550U suitable for gaming ? I'm torn between getting a 7700HQ based gaming laptop or the newer 8550U. Will the extra 2mb cache on the 8550U be of any importance and relevance ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

It would be alright if you're able to pair it with a decent graphics card, most laptops don't seem to have one though as it's primarily used in thin and light machines, probably ok with a MX150/1050 but I've never tried myself, based on the CPU power it should go alright though. I haven't personally done testing to see how cache affects different games so can't really say if it'd help much there.

@TechnoGeek209

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech based on your benchmarks, there's a clear difference between the 8550U and the 7700HQ but it's not big enough to claim that the former is better. I'm curious about that TDP, if both CPU's perform mostly similarly, what difference does the 3X TDP on the 7700HQ make over the 15W TDP of the 8550U ? In real life usage how'd that higher TDP translate ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

The 8550U in the Dell XPS 13 I was testing was running at 25W so that closes the gap a bit. Basically just gives it more power, but that means it gets hotter and needs more cooling.

To use it with an egpu 1080 for gaming the 8550u would be good ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I think it'd be pretty decent with that high single core performance, unfortunately I don't have an external enclosure to test with though. Hardware Unboxed recently did a video testing some 8550U laptops with an external enclosure here, hope it helps: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4SbydWHntfLoag.html

what work loads require more single core and what require multi core? or does all workloads need single and multicore performance equally?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Generally gaming does better with higher single core speeds, while multicore would be better for something like video rendering. Depends on the application and how well it utilizes the CPU.

@powboy01

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech how about moving million files from here to there and processing JSON files. like the gradle build process, if you are familiar with android development process

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not really unfortunately, so hard for me to say sorry!

@powboy01

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech it's okay thanks... keep up the great work

So which one for music production, video editing and little bit of gaming ????

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

In this specific case I'd pick the 7700HQ, because the 8550U Dell XPS 13 I tested doesn't have discrete graphics, and many ultra books don't either so it might not be a good option for gaming. The 7700HQ is still good for a laptop and should be fine for a few more years, I still use a 6700HQ daily with no issues :)

@stevejobs7989

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech thank you

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

No problem!

The i7 8550U is a great CPU for programming. Those four physical cores and short bursts of up to 4.0 GHz is really nice! Being able to have Visual Studio, SMSS, Android Studio, an Android VM, and a few tabs of Chrome open without getting hot and draining the battery is a huge plus.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds pretty useful!

Awesome video! I have a Dell 7577 i7-7700HQ in order and ready for pickup this weekend from Costco. It was on sale ($300 discount) for $900. I am still using an older Dell 7568 i5-6200u. Should I wait for the 8700HQ? Thanks.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I think what ever replaces the 7700HQ will be pretty good, I've heard it will be 6 cores rather than 4, others have said it will probably be the 8850H, rather than 8700HQ (Q stands for quad), I've heard it's a few months away but we don't really know for sure. I'd personally probably wait as that sounds like a good performance increase, but if you need something today the 7700HQ is a good choice and likely will be great for years to come. I still use my even older 6700HQ every day no issues, so I can't see the 7700HQ being too bad any time soon.

@bradhaines3142

6 жыл бұрын

the 6700h to 7700h is a joke of a difference, but hes going from u (and 6th gen was a sad little dual core) to hq so i think he'll see that difference real easily. BUT, as long as your current machine does what you need with no issues, id say hold off til you cant stand it anymore then replace it

While gaming, my i7 8550u drops from 3.7ghz( watching KZread) to around 1.8ghz-2ghz. Is that normal

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it clocks down quite a lot typically as it's usually in thinner laptops that don't have great cooling.

good to see that i7U is real i7 not just an overclocked i5 like before. would be interesting a comparison between 8th gen i5 and i7

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

If I can get an i5 I'll do a comparison between them too :)

When will be the i7-8700HQ released ? And do you think the prices will be really high for the first months ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think that will exist, the new popular laptop CPU is the 8750H which is 6 cores. There is the 8300H which is a 4 core laptop CPU and is kind of comparable to the quad core 7700HQ, hopefully I can get both and do future comparison videos. The 8th gen laptop parts have been around for a couple months now, pricing doesn't seem too bad, for instance the Dell G5 with 8750H doesn't cost that much more than the 7577 with 7700HQ did.

@sorrowvibes7757

6 жыл бұрын

Ah, interesting ! Do you think the difference between 7700HQ and 8750H for Adobe Premiere will be big ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm I did test this not that long ago, but I don't have the numbers with me at the moment because I'm away from home this week traveling for work. If I recall it was a nice little boost while rendering, but I'll definitely include the Premiere results when I do the comparison video between the two.

@sorrowvibes7757

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Keep it up !

One problem is, that you used Dell XPS. It uses cTDP up to 25W instead of 15W. That helps a lot with bridging the gap. Other part of the difference is that although 7700HQ is rated at 45W, it rarely runs anywhere near that number with CPU stress only (it runs around 30 watts). So the difference between those two CPUs is much smaller than one would think.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that is a difference I wasn't aware of when I made the video, in any case I believe you can increase this on the other laptops, depending on the cooling capacity.

You should use throttle stop to find out if it was indeed thermal issues or if it was power limitation. 7700hq without an undervolt applied will hit the power wall and throttle like crazy even when temps are low. You need to go back and check these parameters to rule this out. A simple -145mv should do the trick on the 7700hq and -85mv to -115mv on the 8550u. You should also repaste these to lower the temps for a more fair comparison. The amount of variables must be limited in order to achieve real results.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips.

The fact that power consumption is so different it amazes me so much.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too! I mean I fully understand that the 8550U is meant to be used in much thinner and less powerful ultrabooks, but the fact that it's such good competition and even winning in many tests is great to see! Much better than the small differences we saw going from 6th to 7th gen in any case.

Really helpful

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Hi. I think you have used some form of audio processing. The pauses between facts are not long enough making it difficult to take all the valuable info in. Can you adjust some of the parameters? BobUK.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

It's how I edit the video, I cut out a lot of the spacing. I few people have mentioned this and I've tried to put in longer pauses between sentences while cutting it up so hopefully it's a bit better in some of the newer stuff, let me know!

X265 encoding differences??

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't test that here, sorry, not sure.

Imagine a laptop with a I7 8550u and a gtx 1060 max-q with a 90+ watt/hour battery

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

+Luilli Capellán that would be sweet!

@loldatfunny

6 жыл бұрын

surface book 2 lol

@bradhaines3142

6 жыл бұрын

if it was fat enough to cool proper so the u chip could keep up itd be great, or you could look up gigabyte laptops and see they do basically that but with a proper 45w chip lol

@maythesciencebewithyou

6 жыл бұрын

the surfacebook 2 15 inch has a 8550u and a gtx 1060 (not maxq)...But not affordable for everyone. I'll be getting one of those.

@AnthonyKopah

6 жыл бұрын

The 15" Surface Book 2 comes with a GTX 1060 (a full 1060 too, not a Max Q) and 8650u with a 20w TDP, 1.9ghz base clock and 4.2ghz turbo

Hey what do you think about i5 7300 HQ vs i5 8250 which will be better for gaming?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't tested the 7300HQ myself, but I've had the 8250U recently, I expect them to be similar to these in that sustained multicore workload on the 8250U probably won't be great unless you have really good cooling, so I'd probably be looking towards the 7300HQ myself.

Hey Huge fan. Could you suggest which is better i7 8550u Or i5 8300H?

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

8300h would likely be better in most cases I think, I have a video comparing it with a 7700hq and the i5 is still like 10% better kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymp4pMacfrzXe7w.html

So a 8550U on turbo does the job better if it stays cool enough Hey that's interesting *buys thermal paste, a cooling pad and turns on throttlestop*

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it seems that way! Pretty impressive from a U chip 😃

@UP209D

6 жыл бұрын

Well it depends on the laptop design, some laptop back case doesn’t have the gaps to push air into the inside board like lg gram macbook pro but some have like dell xps.

@blogJM

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if someone already put a cooler like Hyper 212 EVO on a mini pc/nuc with i7-8550U to get high performance with low power consumption.

8550U with GTX 1050 or 7700HQ with GTX 1050Ti for video editing and gaming ?

@JarrodsTech

4 жыл бұрын

I'd go the 7700HQ and 1050 Ti, better all round combo.

Is the 7300hq still enough for 2019 and for the future?

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

Depends what you do, I've never had it for testing but it's probably still ok for most cases. If it's primarily used for games it's probably alright in titles that aren't too CPU heavy and have decent graphics.

the 8550u reaches around 35w on load. but im going to test it with "thermal Grizzly" thermal paste to see how much more i can overlock and stay cool.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

That should be interesting, let me know how it goes!

Nice vid but what about power consumption?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I intentionally didn't test that, as both laptops have different batteries so it wouldn't really be a fair comparison, I'd need the same model laptops to do that test justice.

is 7700 hq means 7th Generation ?

The problem I find with this CPUs is that you can never be sure what performance you will get, cause all will depend on how much cooling headroom you have and what TDP was set into the chip. Something similar is happening with the MX-150 with its 10 and 25 Watt TDP variants.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a bit annoying that way.

Thank you so much for this

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

No problem!

I have i7 8550u 8gb ram laptop with mx 130 latest 2019 4gb variant can i have good gameplay

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

No, the MX130 is honestly below entry level, you might be able to play some less demanding games at 720p and low settings though, depends what you define as good game play.

@MuktsartoBrampton

5 жыл бұрын

@@JarrodsTech i want to play games like gta 5 pubg and farming simulator 19

just undervolt this cpu a little bit and it will beat absolutely the i7-7700 HQ with a third of the power consumption.

I’ve raised the tdp in my Samsung notebook 9 pro to to 20W after doing a repaste and it gets 720 in cinebench so it all comes down to what the thermal headroom of the device. The 8550 is better under equal conditions

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Nice! Yeah I'd expect it to come out ahead with good cooling as the clock speed of all cores is higher than the 7700HQ.

I need to buy a lap Im a moderate gamer and a video editor Which should best for me i5 8th gen or i7 7th gen

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I think either is a good choice, i5 8th gen is 4 cores and so is i7 7th gen, so both great options.

@protectaa

6 жыл бұрын

I have a gaming desktop 980 sli with vr. Im looking to replace it with a msi ge63vr 7rf 1070 laptop or a x360 13inch with aorus box. Which would you pick? The battery and tablet and mobility mode seems nice on the x360. Tho the laptop with 120hz with a 1070 that probably runs a bit faster than the aorus makes it a hard decision! Plus I could just get a tablet for mobility.

i7 6th gen vs i7 7th gen which one is better for everyday task and games like gta5?

@JarrodsTech

4 жыл бұрын

There's minimal difference between the two, only a small clock speed difference.

Are 8th gen U processor laptops a good value for the extra money?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

+Sumith Bhat I think so, coffee lake seems to be bumping up the CPU core count for the first time in a while, so quad core options look to be more common and hopefully soon we'll have six core options as well

@bradhaines3142

6 жыл бұрын

id say if you don't do long term stressful applications (video editing, games, CAD programs) itd be great

What's that Dell laptop that you used?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

It's the Dell XPS 13 9360, I've got a full review on the channel if you're after more information on how it performs.

@phamthanh4785

6 жыл бұрын

Alright, thanks. Great job!! It's kinda sad though you have too few sub compare to the effort spent

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers! It's fine, I'm sure we'll get higher eventually 😃

The 8550U was low powered and many manufacturer put them in ultra thin laptops. As you already mentioned, the 8550U quickly throttle down due to heat build up so in practice, it seldom reach the top speed in theory. It is still much faster for me because I was upgrading from a 3rd Gen Intel Core i5 CPU laptop.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

That would be quite a nice upgrade! I've since tested another 8550u in the ASUS ZenBook Flip 14, the one in the Dell XPS 13 I tested was definitely able to reach higher speeds for longer, so yeah really does depend on the laptop too.

@UP209D

6 жыл бұрын

But for normal usage as well as design and coding: photoshop illustrator lightroom, we dont need the long term performance that much instead we need an instant peak computing. Thus, it s just a fallback in the rendering / encoding races. Otherwise the 8th gen cpu will be seen as a noticeable improvement in short term workload such as those task above i mentioned.

@MrSUPERHUGE

6 жыл бұрын

Psst, just open ARK and look for Memory Specifications and PCI Express Configuration for 7700HQ. You don't need tests to understand that HQ is better than any offcut U shit!

@BDTech9

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! I upgraded from a 4th gen i3 that was 1.9 GHz it was so slow lol.

You;re right, there were quite a few laptops released with Kabylake-r chips with better cooling, and they have full clock speeds, which is just amazing, considering that many of such laptops are still thin and light ultrabooks(examples - the latest Thinkpad and Dell XPS 13 refresh). In thermal limited laptops howsoever, one can undervolt it and get higher clock speeds. I wish I knew that they'd release such cheap laptops with i5 8250u before I bought a laptop with i7 6500u last May... sigh

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's impressive how much of a difference the 8th gen is over 7th, especially compared to almost no change from 6th vs 7th, I just can't wait to get the H mobile chips and compare them too!

@TabalugaDragon

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, those 6-core i7-s are gonna be beasts. Which is why I think Intel is delaying them so much, it's hard to cool 6 cores running at high clock speeds, so they need to choose only highly binned chips for laptops(which wasn't required for desktop segment which allowed Intel to release them last fall).

8th gen has lower base clock?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

The 8th gen mobile CPUs that were released a few days ago have slightly higher speeds, the U chips generally are lower as they are for lower powered devices

for gaming in laptop HQ or new u series ?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I'd probably get 7th gen HQ series like the 7700HQ myself, unless the laptop with the 8550U has been tested to shown it has enough cooling to keep high multicore speeds. Realistically I'd probably wait a little bit to get the 8th generation H series of CPUs, essentially what will be replacing the 7700HQ :)

@kianoushmjd189

6 жыл бұрын

SUB-ZERO for gaming yes

@zaka2630

6 жыл бұрын

Never get U for gaming/editing/anything heavy. For casual surfing and watching, yes, they're not bad. Even this quad core U CPU can't maintain the high frequency for longer than a minute

@suninezhang1143

6 жыл бұрын

don't trust papers, those numbers are just purely idealistic. Chances are in real life using, U-series always tend to be thermally throttled very quickly. I owned two i7 U-series laptops before and they all performed terribly in terms of gaming. Not even heavy triple-A titles, just some random games like counter strike, League of Legend and Dota 2. In one word, always select high power consumption CPUs if battery life is not your priority, the more power they suck in, the better performance they spit out.

@north6948

6 жыл бұрын

Hq is better

FYI the 643 cinebench score here can be achieved only by increasing the TDP of 8550u to 30-ish wats. 15W TDP limit yields around 400.

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on the laptop I think, some don't seem to allow you to modify the TDP with XTU 🤔

@wiktorsiekaniec1392

5 жыл бұрын

@@JarrodsTech in my experience if you downgrade the bios to the earliest revision you can get your hands on and use both throttlestop and xtu you should get minimum of 25W, even if your manufacturer is restrictive af. 30W should be achievable if you tinker long enough (to begin with my Lenovo ThinkPad wouldn't go over 20W but after testing random options ((and I do mean random, most options in TS don't work quite as intended on 8th gen i7Us) I got it to run 31.5W, my friends asus with the same CPU got as far as 37W despite the initial 25W limit and not responding to xtu alone. Asus got as high as 720-ish in cinebench, my Lenovo got around 660 with 3.5ghz on boost and 2.9 sustainable frequency. Sometimes it randomly goes up to 39W but I can't figure out a repeatable way of pushing it there.

@wiktorsiekaniec1392

5 жыл бұрын

@@JarrodsTech also: despite the advertised 15W TDP on the 8th gen i7s there is simply no way they could ever achieve anywhere close to the results in your video without using much higher short term TDP in order to boost to 3.5+GHz clocks. All of them do it, no matter which manufacturer, only question is how high above the 15Ws they are allowed to boost and for how long (depending on cooling implemented and limitations to the time duration of the higher TDP). Don't get me wrong your video is completely accurate considering Intel advertises the i7s as 15W CPUs, despite all of them consuming way above that in short bursts, especially under heavy loads or benching. The notion of 15W cpu achieving results comparable to previous gens 30+W is rather silly.

This is interesting. I have a question for you. I came across this laptop from HP...if you never had one in your hands its ok...just look at the specs and tell me what you think...Could this laptop be good for video & photo editing. I don't game much.Intel® Core™ i7-8550U (1.8 GHz, up to 4 GHz, 8 MB cache, 4 cores) + NVIDIA® GeForce® MX150 (4 GB GDDR5 dedicated) 16 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)1 TB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD...this unit has the 8550u. Its only $1,000 U.S. Is this too good to be true??

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I haven't tested any HP laptops just yet, I haven't been able to get in contact with anyone from there. Based on the specs though it sounds alright for what you want to use it for. With regards to the price, I guess just depends where you're buying it from, if it's a reputable seller and the laptop has decent reviews it should be alright.

I have 8550 If I use single core Would I get better performance on game?

@muzbargaming5012

3 жыл бұрын

i also want to know this

If the 8550U would have been cooled properly it probably would perform the same as the 7700HQ. Considering the fact that the 8550U uses 15 watts instead of 45watts for roughly the same performance, I think it will be a great CPU with some cooling tweaking.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it would probably be very close or slightly better based on the clock speed differences assuming adequate cooling.

@TheVerrm

6 жыл бұрын

It doesn't work like that. It doesn't offer same performance at 15watts tdp. 8550U runs at 1.8GHz at 15W tdp while 7700HQ runs at 2.8GHz at 45W tdp. A huge difference. If both CPUs would be pushed to 3.8GHz then likely we would see a very slightly lower tdp on 8550U, but I wouldn't expect much. After all this is only a refresh of the same Kaby Lake cpu family.

@NikhilTeja7

6 жыл бұрын

Tdp is not power usage.. It gives us an idea about the amount of cooling it requires(based on heat output) .. It's lower for 8550u because it's under clocked (base).. If it had to run at 3.7 on all cores, it will consume same power as 7700hq running at 3.7(approx as both are 14nm and not much architectural difference ).. Tdp varies a lot based on base clock. And Tdp is not maximum power consumption

@ChrisCanadianHusky

6 жыл бұрын

Omar, if you think you are a sky rocket genius, pleaase explain the whole process of cooling :)

@NikhilTeja7

6 жыл бұрын

Cristinelu 097 Google it.. You'll understand. No manufacturer can gain 3 fold improvement on power consumption in 1 year (especially not Intel).

I got a I5 8th gen in my laptop paired with a mx150 but I can’t even record fortnite with obs. Dont know why.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm I don't have any experience with OBS myself so not too sure about that, the 8300h is quite good and shouldn't be an issue, have never used the mx150 though so not sure about that

@IPlayBullseye

6 жыл бұрын

Jarrod'sTech did u used a 960m? Well it’s a little bit worse.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

970M is the only one from last generation I have experience with.

To sum up, 8550u almost has a bit better performance than 7700HQ, and also with gain a longer battery life. Is it correct?

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

Basically yeah, better single core performance, probably better multicore performance if you can cool it better, otherwise still fair multicore performance with less power use which would result in longer battery life.

Thank you for this useful video, I'm gonna buy a laptop for Android Software development, I should also be able to open several pages of Chrome at the same time, I have two laptops on my shortlist , Dell with i7-8550U and 8GB DDR4 and another Dell with i7-7700HQ and 16GB DDR4, I think it's pretty clear for me the second choice is the best one, cause the bigger RAM memory is very important for Android Studio, and although the single core performance is important for me, the multi core performance is even more important, cause I should be able to surf on net while working on Android Studio. Please reply me if you have time and let me know if I'm right or wrong in your opinion.

@JarrodsTech

6 жыл бұрын

I think that makes a lot of sense, I'd pick the 7700HQ with 16GB of RAM too 👍

You should do a battery life test between the two though.

@JarrodsTech

5 жыл бұрын

Not really possible as both laptops have completely different sized batteries, may be possible if I happened to have two the same but unfortunately that was not the case

@erichuang8372

5 жыл бұрын

I believe it's still achievable by using math to compare the two CPUs' efficiency.