Was out on a walk and it was amazing listening to this interview. Conceptually clear, profound and deep thoughts keeping me company as I strolled along in the cool twilight air. Thanks to Kevin Mitchell (I will check out your book) and of course to Ricardo for continuing to bring us such stimulating material.

Finished listening to "Free Agents", and I must say this is one of the most thoughtful books I've read in the last couple of years. Would definitely recommend it. That's for bringing this guest on Ricardo!

Interesting follow up to the interview with Dr. Juarrero.

There’s limited so-called free will but that doesn’t eliminate it.

The appeal to Bergson's mysticism is misguided. The best way to answer the rewinding argument is to state clearly that a recreation of a past state will recreate the organism's potential to choose between equally possible (but limited) range alternatives. In other words, saying that a single choice is necessary just because the system is in the same state is begging the question. It assumes that instantaneous states can not include causal powers of a divergent kind (ones that can initiate different chains of events.)

Lol f the haters, Mitchell rules

@pookz3067

9 ай бұрын

He offers literally nothing new to the conversation while spending great efforts to argue that he does.

Basically What they call it the physical world is cycle one which built within cycle two (existence itself). there’s no gods, no religious souls,….etc Everything is governed by science and only science, but that doesn’t mean that this existence must be easy peasy for the irrationals to grasp! science needs real rational intelligent human entities.

-Particles ARE deterministic (It's why the standard model of particle physics works) and our brains are made of particles. -Some say that free will must include the idea that we could have chosen otherwise… but those are just words because we didn’t. -You can do what you want but you can’t choose what you want. (Paraphrasing Schopenhauer) -To do other than what you want is to want something else more. -Agency is the ability to choose and act but it doesn’t explain why we make any specific choice. -90% of our actions are driven by unconscious motivations and that is not controlled and therefore not free. -We are only aware of a tiny fraction of the information we absorb so we aren't making conscious choices about that. -Neurologists have learned that we make decisions before we are consciously aware of them. If it isn’t a conscious choice it can’t be free. -Any choice made that is not based on external factors and based on who we have become to make such a choice would be irrational. -What will convince you to make a specific decision? You won’t know until it happens and then you become aware of it. It does the convincing TO you.

12:00 goal need entity to pursue that goal! is it evolution?! Is their god who makes all plans, goals,….etc for living beings !

12:15 goal of persistence! that needs entity! Information! for data to become information must pass through process to become information! Value and meaning too ! It must be a new hidden gods not Science!

Can the irrational apes challenge human mind even if they collected all the brains of all the apes in one gigantic brain of one ape?! Of course that is impossible! they can bounce as much as they can, but that will never work.

His definition of free will is problematic. To define free will as "making choices" is just tautological.

@onlynormalperson

10 ай бұрын

then why do anti-compatibilists tend to say that people don't make choices they just think they do?

@pookz3067

9 ай бұрын

@@onlynormalpersonthey are defining choices differently. That is transparently all there is to it.

@onlynormalperson

8 ай бұрын

Ok but then Kevin's statement isn't tautological@@pookz3067

11:30 processes! where did processes come from?! miracles such as natural selection?! they only run forward through inventing new imaginary gods to fill the ancient gods with new imaginary gods.

How evolution gave us fairy tales...

Who's funding this guy? We know how stress affects the neurodevelopment of poor children - ADHD, depression, personality disorders - all these affect future decision-making. We know what social injustice looks like. He sounds like a republican attempt to save "individual responsibility".

@onlynormalperson

10 ай бұрын

I think his position from 1:29:00 is pretty liberal. It's not necessarily leftist since he basically says he's okay with the legal system, (as someone with anarchist sensibilities I'm willing to go further), but he advocates staying away from absolutist framings and embrace context which I don't think is very Republican.

@BUSeixas11

9 ай бұрын

ADHD is not caused by stress. It's a genetic disorder.

@onlynormalperson

9 ай бұрын

@@BUSeixas11 aren't most genetic disorders epigenetic?

@armoda1057

9 ай бұрын

@@onlynormalpersonnot sure what you mean by this. Genes get expressed (or not), and genetic disorders are by definition a change in expression of the gene. They don’t have to involve epigenetics in cases where the function of the protein has changed (e.g., sickle cell anemia).

@ryam4632

9 ай бұрын

It sounds to me that you are projecting your owm motivated thinking on Mitchell.