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needing less xp and then having the bonus from having multiple max level toons will save so much time as we go through our alt armies

Heirlooms used to give 5-10% xp bonus from all sources, back when you had a full set you could get up to 55% xp no top of rested xp which depleted at a diminished rate due to the xp given from Heirlooms. They should never have changed that part of heirlooms imo.

Thank goodness, one of the things I used to love was having multiple max level characters to choose from for content. Especially enjoyed multiple professions on those alts. Being locked from leveling professions and recipes behind renown when I finally get alts up is frustrating currently (as is working irl and why I can't spend hours leveling alts...)

I hope they give us this earlier than later expansions, I plan to show the game to my friends and if it's smooth the chance they keep playing will be higher

As someone with 40 level 70 characters... Uh thanks. Though this is genuinely a magnificent change.

@ralegar1

2 ай бұрын

cease

@DanielTorres-lb6hs

2 ай бұрын

40 characters jesus christ man

My favourite part about new expansions is bigger numbers! Something about gear upgrades actualy feeling strong with expansions that get close and close to stat squishs

@brendon1689

2 ай бұрын

oh how the pendulum swings

@MotivatedMan

2 ай бұрын

@@brendon1689 not for me I’ve always had this stance it’s the sole reason I’ll dabble into a 3.3.5a custom 255 realm every now and then

@brendon1689

2 ай бұрын

@@MotivatedMan yeah for sure i just think it's funny how things turned out haha

@Slendy_C

2 ай бұрын

for sure going to be a squish when midnight comes out though as by the end of TWW numbers will probably be even or past legion numbers lol

@badass6300

2 ай бұрын

I personally like it when numbers increase, but when numbers are low. To me Cataclysm numbers and late Shadowlands/Early Dragonflight numbers are the ceiling of the number ranges I like, even though TBC's and early Wrath's number ranges are my favorite. Although nowadays numbers don't last long enough on the screen to enjoy them as much as they did in older expansions, IDK why they made them go away so fast.

Interesting. Haven't played retail since Classic, might give it a try.

Leveling is how you learn how to play you class properly though.

@leviathon98

2 ай бұрын

exactly. and gain rep better. truly understanding your toon better and being a better player

@williamgrunzweig571

2 ай бұрын

Yup. Learning new skills so fast they really don't understand how to use them effectively.

I’m always fine with leveling being faster. After the first time leveling gets tedious. WoW Classic servers are there if people want the old leveling experience.

@DrewPicklesTheDark

2 ай бұрын

Damn near all of the content gets really tedious, the only reason leveling stands out as unacceptable to people is because other content is gated behind it. It you had to clear enough mythic pluses before you could raid/PvP/etc. it would be hated even more than now. I think they should remove leveling as it is, and turn questing/exploration in to it's own form of content. i.e. you can make a new character and choose to play lobby-mode and queue for arena/M+, join a guild and get in to some raids, or go on a questing adventure.

@tgamer1510

2 ай бұрын

@@DrewPicklesTheDark Absolutely not, levelling is critical to learning your class... Ever notice how a good deal of people never play their boosted alts? It's because getting a max level character out of the box is extremely overwhelming even for experienced wow players if they haven't played the class recently. I personally had to level an entirely new holy paladin after coming back from a long hiatus because it was just nothing like what I remembered and learning to play it from scratch was ultimately a simpler process when levelling as I wasn't bombarded with 30+ new buttons, not knowing which were important or useful and which weren't. Anyway the reality is that levelling provides an extremely important role. Blizzard should not be offering boosts tbh. Anyway long story short I believe personally that the removal of levelling as a system would literally destroy the game. What we should be doing is streamlining the process in a way that allows new players to experience wows story in chronological order

@DrewPicklesTheDark

2 ай бұрын

@@tgamer1510 I am actually a pro-leveler, my problem is, retail leveling is so atrocious, the only way it can be "fixed" would require slowing it down, but Pandora's Box is already open, if they fixed leveling there would be a meltdown as big as when they removed flying in WoD (another broken mechanic in an atrocious place at the time). It's in a broken state and unfixable, so just swipe it away and make something good, like they _finally_ did with flying in DF (a broken TBC gimmick that had to constantly be disabled because the game wasn't designed around it, in to a core feature that is properly implemented and designed around). As it stands, even if you try to honestly level, I'm talking questing, not dungeon spam or such, you can get 2 zones done (4 if in Cata time), maybe an extra if you skip some out of the way stuff. As for "death of the game" I have heard that with literally every major change in every expansion, so forgive my skepticism. Most people wouldn't care and would be fine with it since most of retails player base uses the game like it's a lobby for instances stuff. I want the 75+ zones (or whatever it is now) to have a purpose, and making questing through them a core feature of the game (as it was in vanilla, but literally can't be in modern WoW) is a better alternative to the atrocious state it currently is. I'm not some salty raider mad I have to level to play another class, I had a max level of every class way back in the day when I no-lifed the game, and have over 50 characters on retail (not hard when it takes like ~10 hours) and a dozen spread throughout the various classic versions. How do you propose leveling and questing be fixed without removing flying, removing scaling, or slowing down the EXP rate? I'm not asking as a wiseass, I am legit curious how you could have someone experience 10 expansions worth of lore/leveling content in 10 hours.

@marcelrodriguez2067

2 ай бұрын

​@tgamer1510 i agree with you 100% i boosted a VDH ( the free boost that came with war within pre order) and it threw me way off how complicated everything looked, so i started leveling one and the way you slowly learn each spell as you unlock it slowly is way better.

If this is the case, maybe they should consider SWTOR route and do class story mode. So it’s enjoyable to level rather than just burning through to max level in the same route over and over again with all your alts.

@cleversonsutil4495

2 ай бұрын

Good ideia, but they don't know how to play a story like in SWTOR

6:40 WHAAAT. Now that's friggin sweet!

Great vid

Will level my main Rogues Alliance + Horde then level my other favourite classes after when the XP bonus is higher. This way I maximise time on my main class while learning and adjusting to the changes + lower the time it takes on classes that can't stealth nor leave combat at will. Not having access to Dragonriding on my alts in 10.2.6 is getting to me. I've always been addicted to speed to have fun so it's a hilarious downside to note. Especially since irl got busy and I haven't played much the past year (nearly) but stayed subbed. Good times ahead. Again 🤣

Now maybe I will have the motivation to level all of my neglected Alliance alts to 80! Thanks, Kelani!

Hopefully, since it seems a lot like the regular leveling speed they add a toggle or something for them. Also if leveling with a friend, once grouped up it can match that exp buff to whoever is highest preferably or both could toggle it off as mentioned if they want that slower pace. I think this a great addition though.

03:00 there's an easy solution to that, which would be great in terms of new player experience: having new players start by default in current content from level 1 (or so). This way, they can level up among the vast majority of other players, maybe see a story arc that makes some sense and above all they can earn reputations and currencies that matter, so that they won't be too much behind at level cap. Easy peasy.

Awesome

They are soooo teasing opening the door for all classes and races

Love the idea of the bonus with multiple characters at max level

They do this almost every expansion. The point is to make leveling from the current level cap to the new one, more of the time consuming part and everything before it faster than it was. So during dragon flight, 60-70 takes the longest. When TWWI comes, they want to shift that to 70-80. It almost always happens.

The game is hard for new players. Lots to learn and get use to. Rotations and spells are hard to get use to and pick up. They need a certain amount of time hope this speed up isn't too fast.

8:05 this is exactly my type of play style... I like leveling to max level and then doing it again. Small upgrades in gear don't provide me joy like a level does .... so yeah I'll easily max out 5 characters as the first thing I do in TTW 😁😁😁👍👍👍

for classes, i'd love to see slightly more expanded classes into more races. a pet-peve of mine is that Worgen can be Priest, but not paladin?

@loth_one

2 ай бұрын

they're already working on making every class available to every race

@apoctriforce

2 ай бұрын

Theyre working on more classes. Right now Paladin Druid and Shaman are being worked on but its probably taking the design team a long time to make paladin mounts and shaman totems and druid forms for every single race. We'll get there but we have to be patient

@chriscordova887

2 ай бұрын

This is how i feel bud undead can be a priest but they cant be a paladin

do we still have rested xp bonus?

i’m curious about this because it’s always been a goal of mine to get each class to max level. however i have a bunch of like 25-45 lvl alts. do they just go to the wayside now? will these toons be able to play retail?

@kalakimatra

2 ай бұрын

Do the heritage armor quests after you get each race to max before you let them sit!

I feel like leveling shouldn't be made faster but more enjoyable instead

@GrayzBDF

2 ай бұрын

Indeed, add more paths to level as well as simplifying pausing XP if wanting do a specific part without getting kicked out of Chromie Time. Adding follower dungeons, Delves, buffing XP to dungeon levels in BGs would be qood as well. + a Solo PVP experience like Delves but for pvpers

@kS-ic4rf

2 ай бұрын

Leveling faster is more enjoyable.

@luffy3862

2 ай бұрын

leveling is as enjoyable as you make it

@DraxCodes

2 ай бұрын

That's exactly what they're doing with Pandamonium as-well lol. In Pandamonium you still get gear with bigger XP boosts but it's a whole new fun experience with just about everything a PVE fan would love to have, and you can transfer those chars over to your main account after. I swear sometimes people just be looking for a reason to complain.

@quizkill

2 ай бұрын

​@@GrayzBDFsolo queue rbgs will be a thing in war within. It's actually going to be the default pvp experience.

Retail is so different from when it released. All the more reason I am glad that they released Classic

so with the new experience changes they should reinvent the gear like the boa's so maybe greens can scale 2lvl's and blue's 5

with all the important content being at max level, the faster you can level the better.. the problem as i see it is all the important content being at max level. i think there should be relivant progression content at lower levels to make players not want to rush past it so quickly.. one idea would be to have upgradable gear drop in low lvl raids and have upgrade tokens drop from higher raids up to normal raids of the max level, allowing you to start end game gearing at low levels.. this could also allow old tier sets (and their bonuses) and legendaries to become useful again, though some of those may need their bonuses tweeked to fit current WoW, but it could be cool (i'd also say that quest legendaries like shadowmourn should be a drop chance for any account whos completed the quest as while sticking at a lower level to run a few raids and progress a little is nice, you dont really want to spend a crapton of time questing for such a thing at low lvl. if you've already done it once, let there be a chance to get it as you lvl. if you havent done the quest than you can just do it solo at a higher level)

Don't think they must force leveling too much. I'm leveling a lot of alts and I think now is the best!

Time is our most valuable resource. That is why we hate to play with people who waste our time with sub optimal decision making. The big joke we seemed to miss is when we choose to waste our time playing a video game. Then get mad when other players when they waste our time. : ) "but its not wasted time if you are having fun" You are being fooled into slowly killing yourself. Your desires can change. They can be programed. You can actually desire things that are healthy for you and receive happiness from them. Living in harmony with reality is possible. You can be free from your destructive addictions.

Really curious what other classes Dracthyr will get. I certainly wanted my first one to be a mage as I am not a fan of evoker. Will mean they unlock the ability to have multiple of the race then... or it defeats the purpose. Might need to remake some of my alts as I do like the look of the Dracthyr in human form.

@johernandez266

2 ай бұрын

Death Knights and Druid ! Totally lore friendly😂

@brendon1689

2 ай бұрын

@@johernandez266 sacrificed on the altar of inclusion

Are they adding more character slots?

Is there an experience op out? I’m looking for a little more time.

I kinda hate when they announce a huge change like this when it's months out. So....what am I supposed to do in the meantime? I was thinking of leveling a new alt...guess I'll wait?

@johernandez266

2 ай бұрын

I know the feeling maybe let your sub run out and play something else as vacation? I want to get my wife back into the game but she won't until the War within.

@zavijah3200

2 ай бұрын

Have you not seen the pace of levelling from Pandaria Remix? No worries at all.

@tearren1

2 ай бұрын

@Darklighter75 You may want to wait for MoP redux to level a new alt anyway. I played on the PTR and enjoyed it. It should be out relatively ‘soon’.

@mathisrodriguez3461

2 ай бұрын

Well, if it’s what you want to do, then do it? I mean, leveling an alt is already about a few days, and that's not gonna change a lot. You make it sounds like a big deal when it's just about what you want to do with your time, it's a game after all.

@rogersmith7808

2 ай бұрын

Or make your alt and get it to level 10 and stop.

I understand a lot of people don't like leveling, but to me leveling and questing is the main part of the game, finding out the story, meeting characters etc, I just don't like the idea of all of that going faster. Getting to end game just to do dungeons and raids over and over and over again isn't the fun part of the game to me. I get it though, we aren't all the same, but I just have no interest in super fast leveling, so I'll still take my time leveling characters as I always do.

I already leveled almost all classes in both sides.... but ok that will be nice

The leveling seems fine only problem I see is that they need to redo their new player experience the tutorial that starts on the boat is way too simple, instead of exiles reach take the full 10 levels to teach all the ins and outs of the class/spec you're playing. Blizzard also needs to put a video archive in their launcher that goes over story and lore for the game so players aren't completely lost when they get dumped into BFA at level 10. There needs to be a way to explain things like the difference between Alliance and Horde what their current conflict is, and who the leaders of all the major factions are and why they are important.

considering I have all 14 of my alts at 70 it kind of makes the lower levels kind of irrelevant to me at this point, one of the reasons I'm looking forward to remix :)

What my big complaint always was: I can't experience a story while leveling. If MOP remix goes well, I can see something like that taking over chromie time! Otherwise, this sounds great!

I dont understand, what is the ideer og chromotime, if you cannonly play the beginning of each ekspansion, before you need to go to the latest ekspansion

Should I level my alts now with WoW Remix or wait..? What will be faster?

@Zwow007

2 ай бұрын

wow remix would take a short amount of time and you'll be doing it with new content

@mightyOmouse

2 ай бұрын

WoW Remix

@betahumanx

2 ай бұрын

@@Zwow007 So it live already?

@victarr.7428

2 ай бұрын

Mists of Pandaria Remix isn't live yet, and requires you to make a new character. You might as well level at least one Remix character to get all the mounts and transmogs you feel like getting.

@betahumanx

2 ай бұрын

@@victarr.7428 When will it be live? Thanks

When can druids be played by more races?!

I'd really rather they'd tie XP bonuses to heirlooms. Sometimes I just want to be immersed and chill for a bit and experience the story and whatnot. For those times I can just take off the heirlooms.

W XP changes, getting to 70 is a bit of a slog from 65 to 70 in Live, so seeing it plummet exponentially in TWW is a huge relief.

@RDMCWILL

2 ай бұрын

That I'm looking forward to but I kind of like leveling, especially during content droughts but leveling is already insanely fast to lvl 60. I can't imagine what it's going to be like when TWW goes live.

@UltimateGamerCC

2 ай бұрын

@@RDMCWILL i imagine it will be the same time to get to 70 as it is to get to 60 now, those last 10 levels just wont be a slog at all. now what will be fast as hell will be leveling alts in Mists Remix, that's gonna be nuts. lol

When does this experience reduction come into effect? Does this only start once TWW releases?

At that rate you’ll hit max level before getting through the first few areas.

bonus exp should be 10 25 50 100%. or like ankama (dofus, wakfu) x2 x3 x4 x5

This would be good with heirloom with the set to reduce your bar to level up! Can’t wait!

Correction: The higher level you are in game the more XP you need to get to the next level. There is an 80% + nerf of the levels after 60 but that doesn’t mean it’s somehow going to be like this roller coaster where you suddenly start escalating experience gain. It will still take more xp to get from 60_70 then it does to get from 50-60

leveling from 10 to 70 is fast now if ya know how to do it

Pretty soon we won't be leveling at all.. this is just ridiculous.

Its great for alts but im not so sure its a good thing for new players.

..... damn this is getting out of control

@Anxeas1

2 ай бұрын

?

I assume it’s an increase in 1-10 so you’re not level 20 by the time you’re finished with Exile’s Reach

if they want people to level so fast just give them a choice to start at lvl 70 or free boost

Imo lvling has never been a problem. To finally settle in at highest lvl is though. When I finally start to get geared and familiar with content Blizzard releases a new expansion lol

@tgamer1510

2 ай бұрын

How long do you need? O_o it's not like these expansions are short lived they are 2+ years long

@xfye92

2 ай бұрын

@@tgamer1510 damn...the dude needed 2+ years to settle in n be familiar with the new expansion

Is the warband thing out already? Or does that only release when the xpack is out?

@geemo

2 ай бұрын

It will release with the expac

@MrNozes

2 ай бұрын

War Within feature. Probably when pre-patch launches, maybe. Not online yet

@arcomador

2 ай бұрын

Warbands will come with the 11.0 systems prepatch; my estimations, Late July - Mid August

Feel like they need to up the amount of XP you get from dungeons past level 50 to give people like myself who don't enjoy traditional questing another way to level. Soon as you hit 50, the xp is ridiculously low from dungeons to the point of being pointless to run.

but 50-60 is already insanely fast. that part will be 40-60% faster. which is absolutely ridiculous. 60-70 I get, because thats Dragonflight territory. but before that, leveling is already insane.

The biggest mistake the dev team could ever make is reducing the leveling speed. Starting with those elemental events in badlands/un'goro/barrens prior to DF, where people leveled 10 characters to max by tagging mobs. People who had 1-2 characters at max, now had every class max with nothing left to do. It's already so fast it's not even a journey where you find out if you enjoy your class/spec. 😔

So leveling pretty much became linear? Now higher levels don't need a lot more XP than lower levels?

they should just let people just level in the current expansion 1 to max.

@tgamer1510

2 ай бұрын

Finally a decent suggestion. It makes no sense to have the story jump around by pushing people into expansions with stories they are never going to finish.. If you could go from the start of DF all the way through to killing FYRAKK in one sitting without needing a party or raid I would be fine with them doing it the way they are going to but the reality is we are just shifting the issue to a new expansion ever few years and it's stupid. have a main storyline that players follow that literally give levels as a reward every 20 -25.

Seems like a good news for bot accounts :x

get to the end game and buy from the store🤣

I really don't understand why people want to level faster, levelling is for me the most fun part of the game.

Lvling in retail feels very wrong now a days i think, its super boring and lvl cap is just to high. Lvling really needs a big revamp in retail and i think max lvl should be much lower (something like lvl10-20) there for each lvl feels way stronger and for skill points u could just get more then 1 each lvl.

Whats the point. You can already go from 1-60 in 6 hours or less. 16 if you take your time.

Isn’t max level going to be 80 next expansion? If so, this isn’t actually changing anything, the change is just allowing you to level from 1-max at the same speed in WW compared to DF

@DraxCodes

2 ай бұрын

You're forgetting the 25% extra XP gain from all content once you have a few warband characters done in TWW. That's already faster than anything we currently have. This nerf is also not just to DF levels it's like a 40% nerf to 1-60 and a 80% nerf from 60-70 then your eventual 25% buff for all levels (1-80) once you have it unlocked. There's not doubt about it, levelling is going to be faster.

As long they don't make equipment visible for dracthyr i have no interest to play.

As a Boomer veteran wower ..asking , why even exist levelling, if is so many booster or so much pain for new wow players

@johernandez266

2 ай бұрын

Maybe to learn your rotation ? That's why I level and not boost.

@Altarknight

2 ай бұрын

@@johernandez266 and players who pay for lvling booster ? How they learn the " rotation" ? I saw many players who get max lvl on the existing expansion and have no clue for 50% of they class ;)

@johernandez266

2 ай бұрын

@@Altarknight Your right and sometimes when living you don't become a master. Boosting does make you worse. lol

I don't understand why Blizz keeps trying to get us to make alts. I have one character that I play. No time for alts. But if I want to play remix I can't use my character and am forced to make an alt that I will delete after I'm done with remix?

@tgamer1510

2 ай бұрын

No time for alts? I bet you spend a ton of time afk in valdrakken

@mothman84

2 ай бұрын

It's because they know that very few new players come in and stay. They know veterans with several characters make up most of the population. They know the new player experience is bad, AND there are no easy, quick or obvious fixes to that problem. Revitalizing pieces of old content in a big way (like this Pandaria remix) is one step in the right direction, but still, very very few new players on their first and only character. WoW is quite unwelcoming, from that perspective. New player? Here, level up fast, start a bunch of stories you won't finish - cause they don't matter - rush to the high-end content... and then what? Well, create alts. What else?

The problem isn't leveling (For the players that had a problem with leveling, this isn't enough of a boost to fix that). It is the massive disparity between what this game is like to level then what it is like at end game. New players enjoy leveling, then (at end game), they have to goto websites to look up rotations, stat values, bis gear. Then, after all that work, they finally get in a group- just to make a small mistake (they are new after all) then get cursed out and half the people leave the group........ yeah, as you can imagine- not many stick around after that (especially from a game that wants $15/ month for that experience). They have to do more to curb the toxic behavior, the best systems won't save a game infected with toxicity. Look at hat happened to pvp. Also, all that timed content totally promotes toxic behavior. If you make a mistake and it makes so you can not complete the timer- you are stuck with a bunch of sour players for the rest of the dungeon. Not sure I would want that type of player experience in my game.....

@DraxCodes

2 ай бұрын

Yeah not to mention all the people who refuse to learn boss fights, refuse to learn how their class works, refuse to listen when offered advice, refuse to put effort into the group content but still want the rewards at the end even when it's an item that's garbage for them and BIS for someone else. Then you tell them about communities that offer a nicer experience (more chill and learning oriented) for players like them such as NoPressure in the EU and they ignore you to repeat the whole process again. Yeah there's a lot of toxicity in WoW.

@kennethmalafy8012

2 ай бұрын

@@DraxCodes It's a lot for a new player to learn, especially if you have never played a game like this before. Don't forget, if you have gone through the end game cycle a few times, all of that is normalized for you. Regardless of how unprepared a player was, I would never use it as an excuse to be toxic towards them, that says more about you than the other person's performance. Also remember, the game doesn't prime you for any of that- basically none of that is present in the leveling experience. That's why I wouldn't recommend this game to new players, even if they made leveling faster. If someone asked me about it- I would tell them to read up on end game first.

@DraxCodes

2 ай бұрын

@@kennethmalafy8012it’s no more than you’re expected to learn for end game content of lots of other games? Including games that are praised as being the best of the best or wow killers lol. Sure the game doesn’t prepare you for absolutely everything at end game, no game does! It’s always been the case ever since I played my first multiplayer game that you’d have to learn from other sources or learn by doing. Let’s not forget too, the game most certainly does tell you how to do mechanics, every single boss has a breakdown of mechanics in game. The mechanics are nearly always super simple to see too. (The ol’ don’t stand in fire meme). However still those types of players don’t pay attention or read then cry when they’re called out for it. (It also tells you about dungeons, guides you through crafting, explains your abilities, it’ll even explain your class too if you do the class trial or pick the new starting area) Outside of mythic raid level content too, you can totally do it all without ever knowing what your BIs gear is as ILVL is always the best stats with other stats just making classes feel nicer to play. Hell even the classes that really do need a ton of secondary stats or specific trinkets can do fine with whatever you can get your hands on for HC and M+ 15-17 which is enough to get near mythic geared. Like I said originally. The toxicity you describe does indeed exist. However the far more prevalent toxicity is the people who refuse to learn, refuse to listen and just push the blame onto people who actually care to learn or blame it on it being timed and too much pressure or some garbage.

People still play Retail?? I kept FAAK when I played it long ago. Have fun regardless.

Lvling in bfa is way beter then df

I miss the old days pre flight leveling and exploring zones from the ground. When I have flying I seem to fly above the zone from one yellow marker to the next. I don't feel part of the zone. I always feel disapointed I hit max level before I finish the expansion campaign story lines. I would prefer slowing down leveling.

People are acting like it's the default and not an option. Quests aren't going away just because you reach max level 3hrs quicker and 6hrs quicker on an *ALT* . Go ahead and grind quests on all your characters if you want your sense of pride and accomplishment. I'm fine just doing it once on my main. What a weird thing to defend. *YIKES* .

@tgamer1510

2 ай бұрын

Your failure to understand that it's not about achievements or pride is the only issue here. Questing is something people do for fun, if you take away all the challenge going back to do stuff at max level there is no fun to be had there you just shit all over every quest mob removing any stakes that might have been there if you were not levelled to max. Now, everything imo should scale to max level and this would fix this issue completely.. But acting like going back to farm low level quests at max level is anything like it used to be is stupid... one tapping mobs isn't a fun experience.

@Necromines

2 ай бұрын

@@tgamer1510 lmfao it's not that deep, my dude. First of all, you play how you wanna play and, so will I. Second, did you read what I put? I said I like questing too, just on my main but not doing it 6+ times. *"I"* like having alts and I know what it comes down to getting them to max lvl but is the grind worth it? After you've reached max, got the zone achievement, seen all the Easter eggs and little references, is it worth doing it again on as many alts? All this xp boost does is help with alts after you've done what you want with which ever character you decide to main for this xpac. You can still quest at max, mobs adjust to your lvl as well, so questing still has its challenges. They're not giving raid ilvl gear as soon as you reach max. People are acting like they're just getting rid of questing all together. Again, *YIKES*

The fact that you're useless in WoW until you reach level cap should change, not be confirmed at every release of new content. It is such a huge waste of potential! Especially for new players, that's a big part of why the new player experience sucks, and it sucks so bad. The stuff you do while leveling should be meaningful the first time you do it, not just a big rush to the latest expansion. Nobody wants truly new players, in WoW. That's the thing, and it's so sad.

Honestly, at this point they could simply get rid of leveling completely. It was supposed to make you learn how your class works, which it doesnt anymore. Now its just a boring timesink in mostly dead zones.

@mpa474

2 ай бұрын

That would actually make sense

"Leveling adventure" - is it really an adventure anymore? Remember when you had to go through zone after zone, quest after quest.. now you spam dungeons and if theres a TW event you spam it even harder.. they have taken the aspect of wow that was undeniably the best and trashed it. My first 60, I spent literally 5 months getting it to max and I loved every moment of it, every death to kolkars in the barrens, every wipe in scarlet monastery. Sadly now its all a rush, even on classic, SoD, spam it, spam it fast and minmax every aspect of it.

@kvngVengeanceTV

2 ай бұрын

Leveling for the first time is always fun but after that it’s boring asf

@killuminati2911

2 ай бұрын

I still remember my first trip to desolate as an alliance player, with a guild member, going through hoed territory at level 20 something. It took us half an afternoon but damn it was an adventure and I still remember that after 20 years.

@ReyRey277

2 ай бұрын

Yeah getting a new level doesn't even feel "exciting" anymore... Sometimes I wouldn't even realize I had like 5 talent points I needed to spend. Blizzard is catering to these Very Small group of people that have Autistic Fixations on making random max level characters they never touch ever again.. NOT even alts - that most people use occasionally. Not to mention only half of the existing player base really regularly use more than 1 character... At this point they might as well make level boosts free..

@ObmChris

2 ай бұрын

One word. “Alts” we’re one of the reasons why gameplay was sped up. Also think about the average player. Nobody has the time or attention span to level one character for 5+ months. It was good while it lasted, keep that shi in nostalgia though.

@monkeyweather

2 ай бұрын

Everyone has their own play style. If people want to go through the whole experience, they still can. Reading every quest, etc. If people want end game only, will that's there too

Unlocking 1st tier of riding and flying was so depressing. Flying at 150% speed, that's cringe af

@DrewPicklesTheDark

2 ай бұрын

Flying used to originally be 60% lol.

They should just remove leveling.

Only W by Blizzard these days.

Make evokers stay in their visage form 100% of the time and its win.

Why bother with leveling at all? Just give classes all their skills at character creation. This rush to "end game" is ridiculous!

@cascade4661

2 ай бұрын

It’s not ridiculous to rush to end game, leveling from 10 to the highest level fucking sucks and no one wants to spend days leveling alts. The game is the end game. People wanna grind item lvl not experience. Go back to classic or some shit some of the people in this comment section are so out of touch and probably haven’t touched wow in decades and are salty that their “precious” wow has been “ruined”

Levelling is already too fast why do they want it even faster? I think there should be an option to increase the amount of XP needed for levelling unless they are actually going to use old content for something.

@Anxeas1

2 ай бұрын

Did u watch the video? He gave an example

Why are they catering to a very small portion of the community in REDDIT who are autistically fixated on making as many Max Level characters as possible - only to never touch them ever again?? They need to realize that these are just a small but VERY Vocal group of people.. I made a post on Reddit one time saying a level needed to feel "earned" - and there were dozens of people saying they didn't want to spend 10-10 hours just to make an ALT.. There is a reason why there are more people who quit the game than people who are still playing.

@Necromines

2 ай бұрын

Really? It's say it's the complete opposite for me. Never seen anyone defend the grind to go up a point. Especially with some of these quests that add nothing to the story. "these blanks stole x, please retrieve it" "I seem to have lost x, adventurer, please find it" "I need to get back to blank, guide age protect me, hero" "I'm cold and need x, kill these blanks and bring back y of them." unless it's an important or compelling side character, Runas for example, the quest grinds to level are monotonous after your first toon.

@DrewPicklesTheDark

2 ай бұрын

@@Necromines I enjoyed the leveling experience until Cata when they adopted the "every zone is one long quest chain" memey, phased half the time, style, but modern leveling is so atrocious I would actually support it's removal. Maybe going forward they can make questing it's own "end game" pillar along with raiding/mythic+/PvP/etc.

@Quantumfluxfield

2 ай бұрын

I have 35 max characters, I will wish leveling took more time. I doubt this has anything with a reddit community I've never heard of, but mostly new green haired blizz employees having loud opinions in the meetings

Yeah yeah yeah dumb down the game, catering to zoomers. What else is new?

Good thing. Levelling alts had always been a drag. Doing the same things over and over. Things are changing, and the alcoholics will all be pleased. Bored players quit. Not good for the bottom line$$$

1-70 is a joke. Imagine reaching max level and feeling like you achieved something.

We dont need faster leveling, leveling is already way too fast

Leveling is too fast already

Soooo what you are saying, is the game is still going to be the same grind same lame and boring quest lines doing the same thing...Soo still going to suck...Been so long now I doubt I'll ever start playing again. Maybe one of these years... :( It's just so damn boring.

Leveling in dragonflight its shit. You can get lvl 70 in 4 days (or faster) remember when im leveling in wotlk or tbc. Thats was leveling. When you take every quest, doing everything because you need 20 more quest for 1 lvl. Now you not leveling, you just spam find dungeon button and for every complete dung you have 1 lvl or more if you complete the quest for this dung

The dractyr models are awful. We had years of awesome dragon people and they come. Up woth that shit. No wonder people preder to stay in human visage