70 Ton Friction Press Shaft Part 1 : Rough Turning

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This will be a multi-part video about a shaft I machined for Blacksmith Tools. This shaft is for a 70 ton friction press Andrew is working on. The original shaft got bent during it's move so it needed to be replaced. In this video we'll get it all roughed in using our Precision Matthews TL-1660 manual lathe. The next video will show getting the shaft finished to size including the threaded sections. Last video will show the keyways being machined.
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  • @tomoakhill8825
    @tomoakhill8825 Жыл бұрын

    This is the classic Abom79 video. A long shaft, journals, keys, threads, all the elements of a true Adam Booth machining video.

  • @mrblackrock555

    @mrblackrock555

    Жыл бұрын

    A bread n butter special 🙂

  • @swedishpsychopath8795

    @swedishpsychopath8795

    Жыл бұрын

    In sweden you would get fired on the spot if you did what a79 did. Safety will always be #1.

  • @reinermiteibidde1009

    @reinermiteibidde1009

    Жыл бұрын

    And yet people will still bitch in the comments...

  • @edwardkawecki8101

    @edwardkawecki8101

    Жыл бұрын

    Mr.Sycho, what was done unsafe?

  • @swedishpsychopath8795

    @swedishpsychopath8795

    Жыл бұрын

    @@edwardkawecki8101 The lathe hasn't been leveled to within 1/10 thou (just like he did with the counter weight on his Kubota). Obviously not safe.

  • @wouldntyaliktono
    @wouldntyaliktono Жыл бұрын

    13:50 The people who complain about you sharing the process of indicating seem like the same sort who would complain when Bob Ross paints another happy little tree in his masterpieces (missing the point entirely). Thanks for sharing your craft with us, sir. It's inspiring to see an artist at play.

  • @colinfahidi9983

    @colinfahidi9983

    Жыл бұрын

    Bob Ross always repeated every sentance

  • @Abom79

    @Abom79

    Жыл бұрын

    And yet everyone loved watching him paint, and still does to this day

  • @colinfahidi9983

    @colinfahidi9983

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Abom79 Bob was great. Bob was great.

  • @JohnWCH
    @JohnWCH Жыл бұрын

    I predominantly listen to your vids and MAN that new shop is quiet. No sirens, road noise, Dodge Chargers, etc. It must be a dream for you!

  • @stoyanpetkov182
    @stoyanpetkov1825 ай бұрын

    The thing I like the most about his videos is that he is explaining what he is doing. It really makes a difference

  • @tim.garrison
    @tim.garrison Жыл бұрын

    This may sound like a silly suggestion, but for those of us who have no legit training with stuff like this, can you do a video that covers your process that you use to clean up at each end of the day? I know it may seem boring to lots of people, but I think it's also one of those sort of questions that nobody asks but many wonder about. Among those things, it would also be interesting to know what you do with all your swarf.

  • @AndersEinarHilden
    @AndersEinarHilden Жыл бұрын

    I just realised, Abom is not just an awesome machinist, he is also a very good camera operator and video producer. There are no bad or uninteresting camera shots, everything you could wonder about is explained, and it is professionally edited.

  • @somethingsomeonesaid6455

    @somethingsomeonesaid6455

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you trying out sarcasm, satire, or idiocy? Maybe you've a case of SFB?

  • @ydonl

    @ydonl

    Жыл бұрын

    Anders - I agree! It's pretty obvious he has taken his production seriously over the years, constantly improving.

  • @testyourdesign233
    @testyourdesign233 Жыл бұрын

    Yea the old Adam is back! Boy I can't believe how much I missed these real machining videos. Adams shaft turning experience is amazing. Thank you Mr Booth. Keep them coming.

  • @MrOrwellA
    @MrOrwellA Жыл бұрын

    Well another peaceful breakfast watching Mr Abom79 work his excellent magic, while enjoying 3 eggs sunny side up and a garlic knot. Love ur knowledge and skill.

  • @dockerjade
    @dockerjade Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Thanks for the Friday afternoon video, it goes perfect with a Friday CEE video!

  • @tomoakhill8825
    @tomoakhill8825 Жыл бұрын

    I love the indicating. That is why I subscribed. That is why I joined Patreon to support this channel. I can _not_ express how much I enjoy seeing every single second of "indicating", in real time. Never ever stop showing _all_ of the indicating. Watch the needle at 14:50. Not a quiver. That is amazing.

  • @randallparker8477
    @randallparker8477 Жыл бұрын

    You do the dialing in so... robotically, it's relaxing to watch, it's like watching a "precision" CNC machine operating. (hint,hint) LOL I remember the big stuff, you always get that part done so well, no matter the size. In 1972, I got to watch the giant ships crankshaft lathe/grinder in a Sasebo, Japan shipyard, it was programmed and run by punch cards. I had tea with the operators in their luxury work station, very formal and proper. None of those guys could do that that work on manual equipment, there was a 70 year old master machinist that ran things, he was an apprentice and worked on the Yamato battleship.

  • @alexkamphuis1972
    @alexkamphuis1972 Жыл бұрын

    It really is satisfying watching you indicating and setup a part to work on. It's even more satisfying to practice at home and see how all i've learned from watching your video's is working out really good for me. Thanks for that!!!!

  • @Liberty_DIY
    @Liberty_DIY Жыл бұрын

    I subscribed back when you had very low subscribers. I think less than 100k. I am still here, but I miss your garage shop videos. Super happy that you are on the up and up and got the new shop. However if you were to do an "Old shop thursdays" series I think you would do well and a lot of us long time subscribers would love it. Think on it.

  • @mxlje
    @mxlje Жыл бұрын

    I certainly am part of Team-"show the indicating". It’s very satisfying.

  • @desolatemetro
    @desolatemetro Жыл бұрын

    Was actually just thinking about the indicating. Hopefully taking some classes in the fall(!!), but right now I mostly watch for entertainment. The indicating makes the process feel complete. It's kind of silly but I feel like I want to "make sure" the part is going to come out to spec along with you. 🤣😁 If the classes work out I'm sure it will be even more helpful when I try to do this myself. Enjoying the videos as always.

  • @NSResponder
    @NSResponder Жыл бұрын

    Just occured to me that Fireball should offer a laser etcihing option on those tables. A couple of full-length scales across the top would be handy.

  • @garymclean4692
    @garymclean4692 Жыл бұрын

    Yes I agree Adam - I love watching indicating 🙂

  • @brockstravels7586
    @brockstravels7586 Жыл бұрын

    That new lathe is unnaturally quiet, its a true beast...

  • @MikeBaxterABC
    @MikeBaxterABC Жыл бұрын

    14:39 When I was at the power plant (on construction and assembly) Part of my job as running this tired old lathe :) .. I put the 4 jaw on it the first job I did, and never took it off :) ... It also kept almost anyone else from using the lathe :)

  • @firesurfer

    @firesurfer

    Жыл бұрын

    :) 😀

  • @helplmchoking
    @helplmchoking Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow that shaft is the perfect apprentice/resumé type piece if you're looking for machining job, especially lathe focused. Long shaft, all sorts of features with keys, pins, threads etc.

  • @davesheasley5703
    @davesheasley5703 Жыл бұрын

    Adam I love your work I am a 72 year old mechanical engineer retired from a plant engineering career I have done it all as a jack of all and master of none from drafting welding matching if I lived in GA I would love to work with you as your apprentice for free just to learn your abilities you are very talented my friend!

  • @cogentdynamics
    @cogentdynamics Жыл бұрын

    Your work habits and methodology with the details of indicating, measuring and work holding is exactly what keeps me coming back. Thank you!

  • @Xlaxsauce
    @Xlaxsauce Жыл бұрын

    Put the centre in your lathe and run an indicator along it while its spinning. If the needle isn't bouncing at any point along the length then check the tapper angle. Maybe the piece you pressed in caused a slight deformation in the taper

  • @Quinn-ms8fv
    @Quinn-ms8fv Жыл бұрын

    New video, yessss! I thoroughly enjoy your content. It's relaxing. Even the intro music.

  • @cozmium
    @cozmium Жыл бұрын

    I like seeing the indicating, not because i work in machining but because I don't - get to see a craftsman in his trade and i like to see the details.

  • @Austin17070
    @Austin17070 Жыл бұрын

    For roughing harder materials like your pre-hardened 4140 or even superalloys, I like to use the Iscar IC chipbreakers. Usually 80 deg geometry (cnmg or wnmg) or even 100 deg (cnmg). For finishing, I like the Kennametal CNGP KC inserts. (CNGP KC5010 is my go-to on Inconel 718)

  • @BCHonea
    @BCHonea Жыл бұрын

    Loooove the fireball table!!!!!!!

  • @TheDandyMann

    @TheDandyMann

    Жыл бұрын

    Seriously! He did wonderful designing that table and I love how he goes through all the features he wanted for it in his video

  • @janvisser2223
    @janvisser2223 Жыл бұрын

    Man, do I love machine tools and workpieces shining brightly!👍😀

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 Жыл бұрын

    For me, the setup, indicating and tooling are some of my favorite parts. There are so many ways to approach different situations, seeing some of the thought process is very helpful for me when I approach new projects. Thanks for sharing.

  • @byron7165
    @byron7165 Жыл бұрын

    Fast forward is there for the impatient. Play is there for those who are along for the whole ride.

  • @marcmckenzie5110
    @marcmckenzie5110 Жыл бұрын

    Abom79, everyone knows you’re a leading indicator! 🤪

  • @andywithers592
    @andywithers592 Жыл бұрын

    I’d dipped out of KZread for a while so have missed a lot. Great to see the new shop up and running. I’m also firmly in the “show the indicating” camp.

  • @rustyshackleford928
    @rustyshackleford928 Жыл бұрын

    Good ole Aboms machining. That's why we are here! Its always a pleasure to watch you work with the 4 jaw. Any chance you would put some of those insert numbers in the description or link them in your store? Thanks again!!

  • @scottcher
    @scottcher Жыл бұрын

    Great content. When I think how I came to your channel, a This Old Tony video that had a funny cameo of yours, I feel so lucky to have found your channel. I enjoy watching the indicating and setups you employ. I’m not a machinist but really enjoy seeing you make and fix things. Your delivery is a big part of why I enjoy your content.

  • @hawkakroma
    @hawkakroma Жыл бұрын

    At age 17, I had the opportunity the understurdy a crankshaft grinder as part of my training as a motor mechanic and seeing you do those indication, gives me such great pleasure. At almost 60 years, I find the indicating technic very nostalgic and therapeutic. Thank you bro Adam.

  • @chaintheguardien
    @chaintheguardien Жыл бұрын

    this comment isn't just for Adam its for anyone doing longer skinnier shafting. if you need precision you should really be checking the deflection of the steady when you set it up. a job this long will have a small sag to the middle. so just touching the rollers to it will have it a little low. putting your DTI magnetized to the job and indicating against the chuck you will see how much the shaft is being moved by the steady. example if the back roller is a little high and front a little low all 3 will still be making contact but the shaft will be pushed slightly forwards meaning you will cut a slight taper to your workpiece, the same as if the tailstock were misaligned. also any vibration on the steady will be amplified in the cut. so be sure to get a better surface finish than you need on the bearing surface also be sure to oil the bearing if it galls the shaft it will quickly ruin your whole weekend.

  • @Sam-wp4ps

    @Sam-wp4ps

    Жыл бұрын

    That is good to know as i am new to all of this.

  • @GeneralChangFromDanang

    @GeneralChangFromDanang

    Жыл бұрын

    When you mention indicating against the chuck, will that show sag when you turn it from top to bottom?

  • @billabernathy1541
    @billabernathy1541 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work, Adam. I've never seen a follower rest in use until now. I am glad you are enjoying using the new PM lathe. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mduvigneaud
    @mduvigneaud Жыл бұрын

    Adam, you are a very good teacher. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos and sharing your knowledge and expertise.

  • @truckguy6666
    @truckguy6666 Жыл бұрын

    Finally someone giving the tape measure and a keen eye the respect they deserve. Been taking some precise tape measurements for years!!

  • @erichoff7926
    @erichoff7926 Жыл бұрын

    Adam, everyone of your vids is a learning experience! Wonderful work as always. Eric

  • @jamesbrown8766
    @jamesbrown8766 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. I like the way you explain about different types of inserts and why you choose one over the other. And I agree with other viewers about the quality of the video production. Top notch!

  • @julianstafford7071

    @julianstafford7071

    Жыл бұрын

    I think a lot of the talk about inserts is related to product placement.

  • @mikekellam365
    @mikekellam365 Жыл бұрын

    It's awesome and somewhat reassuring to see someone actually DEMONSTRATE how accurate the human eye is using a simple scale and being able to differentiate and resolve 1/64th inch, or for the machinists among us, 0.0156, 0r 156 TEN THOUSANDTHS of an inch.. YES, I can split those hairs THAT fine, just by eye, it just takes a bit of practice, and time on the job.. Awesome stuff. Git it!!

  • @petehowlett3966
    @petehowlett3966 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome setup

  • @mechanicalTurk0
    @mechanicalTurk0 Жыл бұрын

    For me the most comfortable way to measure a shaft like that would be to get out the ol' 61"-62" micrometer and measure it (I don't trust v blocks on a table like that so I would hold the shaft in one hand and the mic in the other)

  • @MrBlaadieblaa

    @MrBlaadieblaa

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes that's the way to go for sure😁

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray Жыл бұрын

    Physics. Gotta take into account bending moment, force of cut, etc, etc, etc. Amazing how well you manage all those variables.

  • @brianbob7514
    @brianbob7514 Жыл бұрын

    I miss the videos of you making those huge shafts at your old job

  • @rmsflorida
    @rmsflorida Жыл бұрын

    I was told 65 years ago by my Father ..3 jaw chucks are for holding hex stock...I always use a four jaw...Made things easer dialing in a four jaw... mark your chuck with Dykem on # 1 and #2 ...Helps not getting confuse witch jaw you loosen.......Robbie

  • @trevorsommer1974
    @trevorsommer1974 Жыл бұрын

    great to see you in the new workshop. cheers Trevor from oz

  • @cyclingbutterbean
    @cyclingbutterbean Жыл бұрын

    The old 10 thousands ground eyeball measurement method! It does work. Just expect to be using a magnifier in your later years Adam.

  • @tomahoks
    @tomahoks Жыл бұрын

    That follow rest seems a good choise. New stuff is not worse always.

  • @6Drugstep9
    @6Drugstep9 Жыл бұрын

    19:00 - to help with fine chips going everywhere issue. Collect all empty cans, card board, old shims just anything really that can be cut into a sort of L shape. Put it in with your tool holder, clamp it and manipulate into a position that’ll make the chips follow a curve downward path into the chip pan, you’ll have very minimal chips find their way out of the machine

  • @OfficeLinebacker-FJB
    @OfficeLinebacker-FJB Жыл бұрын

    Another great show. Thank you!

  • @BatteryLover456
    @BatteryLover456 Жыл бұрын

    Just got my espresso, time to watch some Abom! Best start to my weekend so far!

  • @johnsavoy980
    @johnsavoy980 Жыл бұрын

    It's good to see paying work come into the new shop, I hope many more jobs come your way, and as always great video

  • @rightwinggunslinger1
    @rightwinggunslinger1 Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you booth. Always learn something good from you

  • @jamesworsham125
    @jamesworsham125 Жыл бұрын

    That new lathe is great!

  • @KKhhoorrnniittee
    @KKhhoorrnniittee Жыл бұрын

    Big stuff (-! Abom79 was the first KZread channel where I saw big pieces being machined.

  • @ronnydowdy7432
    @ronnydowdy7432 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed watching this episode

  • @keithjurena9319
    @keithjurena9319 Жыл бұрын

    Just saw the repaired press in action..works like a champ.

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 Жыл бұрын

    “Stickers don’t smell good when you machine them.” LOL!

  • @gottagift
    @gottagift Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see you flinging some chips in the new shop.

  • @ALAPINO
    @ALAPINO Жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of your all "classic" videos. Man, I really enjoy watch you indicate. Probably, because I'm not the one doing it. Haha!

  • @markgordon4368
    @markgordon4368 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, that FT table is outstanding, I thought you'd chop the sticker end off to keep in your scrap pile 😀

  • @HarrySinanian
    @HarrySinanian Жыл бұрын

    Your ausio with that lovely lathe is now awesome!

  • @FunkFPV
    @FunkFPV Жыл бұрын

    I’ve always wanted to see how I’d do centering something in a 4 jaw. You make it look easy but I bet it would take me the better part of an afternoon to get it done 😜

  • @Peter-V_00

    @Peter-V_00

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't hurry and it will come to you, it's not hard to do at all.

  • @edwardkawecki8101

    @edwardkawecki8101

    Жыл бұрын

    It takes a while at first but it's a fun Challenge and before you know it you'll be doing it in no time

  • @GeneralChangFromDanang

    @GeneralChangFromDanang

    Жыл бұрын

    I've also found that his indicator in front technique is just a little trickier. I always set it up on top and just adjust the top jaw.

  • @SummerOf1970
    @SummerOf1970 Жыл бұрын

    Cool job! Looks fun!

  • @Joe___R
    @Joe___R Жыл бұрын

    Coat the live center's shaft in dykem and insert it into your talestock to see where it is touching. The plug you pressed into it might have bulged the end of the taper preventing it from seating.

  • @PhilG999

    @PhilG999

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd use Prussian Blue, but I think we all are thinking along the same lines.

  • @patricksoileau2033
    @patricksoileau2033 Жыл бұрын

    I love your setups, I transfer the principal to wood work on my lathes

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful closeup shots Adam!

  • @a.bakker64
    @a.bakker64 Жыл бұрын

    11:00 you have some super equipment😍. Very nice new shop.

  • @patamos7019
    @patamos7019 Жыл бұрын

    I learned how to 4 jaw indicate in high school. The shop teacher showed me how to run the lathe and whenever he wanted anything important set up in the machine, he would only let me indicate it in. Then in college for heavy diesel, we had to take a machine shop course. That was way back in 78 and 80. I still to this day use welding and machine shop techniques when doing projects around the house, on vehicles, tractors and equipment.

  • @OneCupOfCoffee204
    @OneCupOfCoffee204 Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed this one.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Thanks for sharing!

  • @paulg3336
    @paulg3336 Жыл бұрын

    Holey table Batman!

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @brandenoconnor7299
    @brandenoconnor7299 Жыл бұрын

    Great job so far Adam, looking forward to your next video!! Oh, and I'm glad to see the old faithful on your wrist again, no one actually knows if the last one was american or swiss made. Good choice.👍👍

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 Жыл бұрын

    Great video.Thank you.

  • @garthbutton699
    @garthbutton699 Жыл бұрын

    No complaints from me,thanks for the video and tips🤗😎🤗😎

  • @geckoproductions4128
    @geckoproductions4128 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the honest eval.

  • @mr.slowhand3843
    @mr.slowhand3843 Жыл бұрын

    Boy thats some tough material can tell by ear watching those chips being made. Awesome job

  • @CothranMike

    @CothranMike

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, pre-hardened 4140 is tough all right.

  • @rhodie33
    @rhodie33 Жыл бұрын

    Nice table!

  • @boppins
    @boppins Жыл бұрын

    When I saw those chips flying everywhere I was wondering if you had some kind of plastic shield attachment. Surprised how much better the different insert did.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing buddy

  • @markmcdonald4080
    @markmcdonald4080 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks!

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten2994 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the sharing

  • @Bgoodman6113
    @Bgoodman6113 Жыл бұрын

    Nice, true work.

  • @jwrappuhn71
    @jwrappuhn71 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent.

  • @rickkennerly2379
    @rickkennerly2379 Жыл бұрын

    Love the indexing! Also, wow that is hard stock. I’ve never seen chips fly like that in your vids.

  • @tristanpatterson3843
    @tristanpatterson3843 Жыл бұрын

    Man, that welding table is nice.

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard9966 Жыл бұрын

    That would have been a nice job for the CNC lathe. Unbelievable finish you get. Sweet.

  • @darrelsartin4355
    @darrelsartin4355 Жыл бұрын

    This is going to be an interesting job. My first thought, though, is "Could Keith Fenner straighten this?" I've seen several videos of him straightening marine shafting. Maybe he could look at the old shaft as a backup.

  • @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
    @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 Жыл бұрын

    Like all the info thanks for sharing

  • @singleshot2218
    @singleshot2218 Жыл бұрын

    I’d send that live center back Adam. Hello to Abby,stay safe and take care! God bless!🙏🎚🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾

  • @warrenjones744
    @warrenjones744 Жыл бұрын

    The JBL speaker...yeah baby! I love those things.

  • @rolandolievanoagudelo.5112
    @rolandolievanoagudelo.5112 Жыл бұрын

    Muy buen trabajo maestro bendiciones en este día y muchas gracias por sus concejos tan útiles.

  • @chillired1898
    @chillired1898 Жыл бұрын

    I alway look forwad to your video

  • @nathansnow
    @nathansnow Жыл бұрын

    Adam you should name one of your 4 jaw chucks "Chuck Norris" 😆

  • @pappaflammyboi5799
    @pappaflammyboi5799 Жыл бұрын

    Nice Fireball Tool table.

  • @MySynthDungeon
    @MySynthDungeon Жыл бұрын

    Really Enjoyed!! Well said! Well Done, Cheers!;-)!

  • @planetwisconsin9901
    @planetwisconsin9901 Жыл бұрын

    Indicating is cool to watch much like truing up a bicycle rim.

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