7 Unlockable Characters Not Worth the Effort: Commenter Edition
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There’s nothing worse than working your gaming fingers to the bone only to receive a ridiculously inadequate reward, like one of these unlockable characters that mocked our efforts with their terribleness. Consider these unlockable characters that weren’t worth the hassle, as suggested by the learned commenters on the original version of this video. Subscribe and turn on notifications for a video like this weekly!
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I love how Adam West made a post-Batman career of "being Adam West". He was basically the same person in everything he ever provided voice acting for.
@caledunsmore
Жыл бұрын
Return to the Batcave: The Misadventures of Adam and Burt is by far the strangest and is actually pretty good. It's not a Batman movie it's Adam West. It's like a behind the scenes doco showing Adam and Burt rehearsing and getting costumes, shooting scenes of a Batman movie then for some reason the villain actors become actual villains and it's up to YEP ADAM WEST to save the day. It's complete nonsense but it actually gives a unique behind the scenes parody of Making The Batman shows/ movies. Tonnes of references and nods and in jokes. It's honestly GREAT and the hero of the movie isn't Batman it's ADAM WEST....I'm so confused hahaha so Adam West really is Batman. It's the greatest portrayal of his self awareness of how influential his Batman is and how good he is at Being ADAM WEST (I hope that makes sense....I'm not even sure what's real anymore) just search the title and enjoy if you have not seen it
@henrycasey1492
Жыл бұрын
that's how I felt about will Ferrell, Ben stiller and Seth rogen
@caledunsmore
Жыл бұрын
@@henrycasey1492 huh?
@HovektheArtist
Жыл бұрын
@@caledunsmore reminds of the movie my name is bruce, where bruce campbell the actor is tricked into fighting a monater because a fan thinks, of course bruce campbell can do it
@gaylewinds4808
Жыл бұрын
I saw him and Burt Ward at a conversation in 2013. The thing that impressed me was how he went out of his way to include Ward during the Q&A. Every question was directed at West, but whenever he could he would say "well, Burt actually knew more about that" or "oh, Burt has a great story about some extras on set". It was really sweet to see.
0:40 “Jane said no.” Ruling with an iron fist firmly on the biscuit tin as ever Miss Douglas lol
Being near Adam West is it's own reward. I miss him...
@thestraydog
Жыл бұрын
He was such a good sport about everything, from his appearance in Fairly Oddparents to Family Guy, he was hilarious
@OptimusSledge
Жыл бұрын
We all do. The hero we needed if not the one we deserved. The Bright Knight.
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme
Жыл бұрын
You miss him? Do you know him personally or follow his daily routine or something?
@michaelandreipalon359
Жыл бұрын
There was also that Gray Ghost ep from Batman: The Animated Series. Love that ep.
@dhenderson1810
Жыл бұрын
@@thestraydog I heard that he hated the role after the show finished, because he struggled to get other roles, but eventually embraced it later on.
"A bigger cast than The Rock with a broken arm" is an absolutely sublime joke. 10/10 on that one.
@kralik394
Жыл бұрын
I liked "trickier than a magician convention"
@LegendaryElite
Жыл бұрын
Grind harder than Tony Hawk in a coffee shop was my personal favorite
@phantomisle
Жыл бұрын
Even Rocks can shatter into a billion pieces.
@phantomisle
Жыл бұрын
@@LegendaryElite Even Tony Hawk can be ground into coffee.
@phantomisle
Жыл бұрын
@@kralik394 Even a magician can be tricked into conventional magic.
I forgot all about Wes from Don't Starve in the original list. Wes lost his vocal cords in a fire, not because he chooses to do so. He just made the best out of a shitty situation. The thing about Wes is even though he sucks at, well, everything, he excels at keeping the sanity of his teammates up.
@ZorotheGallade
Жыл бұрын
He can also provide a speed boost and make players able to swim right from the beginning of the game and protect them from lightning in a pinch. A niche utility but it's still something.
@massgunner4152
Жыл бұрын
i think the sanity thing is from the rework because before that wes was a hassle in DST
@Eddiember
Жыл бұрын
@@massgunner4152 Ahh yes. Wes from Don't Starve and Don't Starve Together are two vastly different Wes'
@YooranKujara
Жыл бұрын
@@Eddiember and I mained both
@rabbit0664
Жыл бұрын
@@YooranKujara Oh nice
"Grind harder than Tony Hawk in a coffee shop." You all have VASTLY improved my life with this🤣🤣🤣
The faces that Ellen makes when telling puns are priceless.
@kirbymerby
Жыл бұрын
You’d look like that too if there was a chance of Andy catching you
@justinhoyt4170
Жыл бұрын
Lol the suffering that took place on stream today karmically makes sense after seeing the first pun 😂
@thebestcentaur
Жыл бұрын
I swear, whoever Ellen's attached to is lucky indeed
@timothyoswald8618
Жыл бұрын
*everything* about Ellen is priceless.
@pakito546
Жыл бұрын
She is a Goddess and I will not have you not praising her more aggressively!!! also Jane is kool too
I remember when I was young and unlocked Jogurt, I kept trying to use him in combat. I kept thinking, "There HAS to be something I'm missing." Maybe there's some weird synergy that the ring can do? Maybe he is leveling up, and I won't know until I can promote him to an actual job? Maybe promoting him from YGRT to YGRT at the right time did something? They wouldn't just make him absolutely useless, right? Well, I was wrong, and they did.
@Mentocthemindtaker
Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha! I did this too!
@Gatorade69
Жыл бұрын
Similar to what I thought with Unown in Pokemon. "Oh he must learn another powerful move at a higher level." I wasted so much time trying to level up unown.
@tinkerer3399
Жыл бұрын
Yep, although I don't think I used the method outlined in the video to recruit him. I'm pretty sure that if you run away from a battle in that chapter you can just find him standing around.
@nathanielbass771
Жыл бұрын
the sad part is, other games actually do what you were thinking with some characters. For example, there's a blitzball character in final fantasy X-2 that gains virtually no stats until level X and then becomes one of the strongest players in the game by how much they gain
@nathanielbass771
Жыл бұрын
@@Gatorade69 as a kid I met someone who had an entire team of Unknown at level 100. They never told me why (their name probably spelled something and I didn't notice)
"Ellen, you're not on Outside Xtra" made me laugh too hard 😂
@nickburkhardt3229
Жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of eating and almost choked. That joke almost killed me. It was so funny.
Faramir from "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King." When you unlocked him he had a nearly identical move set to Aaragorn but with less damage per sword swing.
@alejandronieto4212
Жыл бұрын
That said, he was still good. And arguably he was a better archer.
@silas6328
Жыл бұрын
@@alejandronieto4212 sure but Aaragorn was already outclassed in melee by both Legolas and Gandalf. No matter which level you were on, there wasn't much reason to use him for anything other than the xp grind. So when you beat the game and unlock Faramir... why would you?
@glengreer9614
Жыл бұрын
A chance for Faramir, son of Gondor, to show his quality… mediocre.
@alejandronieto4212
Жыл бұрын
@@silas6328 Aragorn wasnt outclased in melee by legolas and gandalf. I mean sure, one had more speed and the other had amazing combos, but fully buffed aragorn was the highest basic attack in the game (we're talking Return of the King, right?) to the point of reliably 1-2 hoy killing most enemies. The only things holding him down were his strong attack, wich was kinda lame, and his archer skills, where he was subpar. Faramir wasnt as strong in melee as aragorn, but was pretty competent in general, and arguably better than aragorn in ranged fights, making him a reliable team mate, specially in places like pelennor, southern gate, walls of minas tirith or isengard
@thestraydog
Жыл бұрын
@@alejandronieto4212 Dude that Fields of Pelennor fight was both brutal and epic I remember! I loved taking down Mûmakil with a fully upgraded charge arrow, felt like a badass
Ellen's dedication to making puns even when it causes her trouble is quite remarkable
And to use Cloud's abilities you need to keep his unique sword on him, which gets outclassed. Most of his abilities are too slow too.
@sharlesdaviskendy2391
Жыл бұрын
Finishing Touch is grossly underrated though. You can lower its charge time to basically zero, and it’s a one hit kill on 99% of enemies.
@amwoodco3049
Жыл бұрын
First time I was going through FFT, I didn't even know who Cloud was. I did keep him, but I think I made him a ninja or something.
@TheNaldiin
Жыл бұрын
I love everything about that game except the hidden item crap.
@jerbar1280
Жыл бұрын
Cloud is still a little better than Malak, from what I remember. His unique attacks would strike random squares within oddly shaped areas, so if you were not careful you could hit your own party. They also did more damage to those with low faith, which I seem to remember being rare enough that getting a group of low faith enemies in the right configuration was challenging enough to not bother. Top that off with the limit to your total number of characters, he usually got kicked off even the back bench.
@ericrichardson1496
Жыл бұрын
The one time I got him and was working on leveling him up an enemy ended up breaking his sword. Needless to say he was perma ditched after that
Making this list is the biggest accomplishment Jogurt will ever have. EDIT: I'd love to see someone land the final hit on Dark Dragon with Jogurt.
@Valigarmanda
Жыл бұрын
I have. It was very, VERY, VERY stressful. Well, technically not Yogurt himself. I used Mawlock with Yogurt's card.
The best thing you can say about Skeleton is that he's slightly better than being fully dead.
@HylianFox3
Жыл бұрын
He's only mostly dead
@LucianDevine
Жыл бұрын
@@HylianFox3 There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.
@mayowankenobi
Жыл бұрын
@@LucianDevine Slightly alive!
Any time with Adam West is good time. 👍
My mom's a huge fan of both FF7 and Tactics, so she's told me about the Cloud problem. She says he also can't use any weapons well except the rare Materia Sword. I've always assumed this was an Easter egg implying this is where he went when he went missing in the Life Stream, and being from a different time he doesn't actually know how to use any of the skills or stuff expected of him in Tactics
@nathanielbass771
Жыл бұрын
he can use other classes but he can only use his soldier skills while wielding his "knight sword" the materia blade. It might have even been that he could only use them while in the soldier class as well (don't remember).
@immortalfrieza
Жыл бұрын
They don't even mention the fact that even if you level him up, Cloud ends up being pretty useless in the end. The Materia Blade is far weaker than weapons your other party members can unlock and his Limit skills are charged instead of instant so it carries the same issues all the charged abilities do. Honestly you get far more use out of the other party members you unlock trying to unlock Cloud than you do out of Cloud himself. Unlocking Cloud seems more like for the nostalgia points than anything.
@SeventhheavenDK
Жыл бұрын
@@nathanielbass771 . Materia Blade is not even a "Knight Sword" is just a normal Sword.
@gsgaming6976
Жыл бұрын
@@immortalfrieza He's definitely not useless, just overshadowed by all the other special characters. I didn't care though, I gave him short charge from the time mage moveset and let him do his thing. Honestly I always felt like the majority of the special characters in FFT weren't anywhere near as strong as my normal characters. There are literally some story battles that you can just one shot with a calculator, like one of the fights with Malak. TG Cid may be great, but he can't take down 50-100% of all of the enemies scattered across a large map instantly. You could make all the special characters powerhouses one way or another, but like.... I already have my max brave monk and my calculator, soooooo Cloud has the same use that all the other special characters do.... He's just fun to play around with if you know what skills/stats supplement his unique set (like he benefits more from Magic stats that attack stats, so his sword being weak physically is not a detriment to his skills)
@KuueenKumi
Жыл бұрын
Your mom? God I feel old
There’s more about Cloud in FFT After you get him, you still need to find his weapon “Materia Blade” if you want to use his Soldier skills, which means his job is useless if you give him a better weapon and stuff like that, not to mention how long the charge times are
The Lost was made a lot easier to unlock later on And while it may be hard to play, it unlocks some of the best items in the game
@Uberphish
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, flight and spectral tears are nothing to sneeze at, even _before_ you unlock the free hit per screen transition!
@caseys3593
Жыл бұрын
The lost is also great with dwtd runs, since he has 0 hearts. Truly my glass cannonn baby
@justinbuergi9867
Жыл бұрын
@@Uberphish the free hit almost makes him broken. It’s pretty rare to get hit a second time in a room on an early chapter when you can fly. And that gives you time to build up a good arsenal
@tomjack1000000
Жыл бұрын
In the orginal version it was so much harder. It's still pain ut it's more more tolerable.
@MonsieurMcRib
Жыл бұрын
It might just be the Stockholm syndrome that comes from being an Isaac fan, but The Lost is actually my favorite character to play as
"Never in the history of civilization have people battling for their continued survival said 'What we really need here, friends, is a mime.'" Hyrule: 😒
@karldi7648
Жыл бұрын
The mushoom kingdom in Super Mario RPG: 😒
@TheSattocs
Жыл бұрын
You’re thinking of mute, not mime.
@lnsflare1
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSattocs Hyah?
@ShugoAWay
Жыл бұрын
He's not even mute he does talk and more than just grunts
@TheSattocs
Жыл бұрын
I never said he was mute, said the OP was thinking of that word. But it’s a common joke/meme that Link is mute for obvious reasons.
One thing to note about unlocking the Lost in The Binding of Isaac, in the current version of the game, Repentance, the Lost is unlocked by killing yourself in a sacrifice room while holding the Missing Poster. The method you covered is how it's unlocked in Afterbirth+ and earlier. To remedy that, let me talk about a character that's STILL absolutely stupid to unlock: The Forgotten. To unlock the Forgotten, you must have first beaten the boss "The Lamb" which is no small feat. After that, first you have to beat the first floor's boss in under a minute. You will hear Isaac's mom call his name. Go to the first room of the floor. There will be a silhouette of a shovel. Use a bomb anywhere in the room, this will spawn the "Broken Shovel." Picking up Broken Shovel will cause Mom's Foot to continuously try to stomp you. Using Broken Shovel will stop the stomping for the current room. You MUST keep Broken Shovel. You cannot pick up any other active items for the duration of the run, save for Book of Virtues. Now that you have Broken Shovel, you must complete Boss Rush. To do this, beat Mom in under 20 minutes. Boss Rush is 15 waves of two bosses each with no breaks. It is VERY difficult. You MUST hold Broken Shovel the whole time. Once Boss Rush is completed, the second piece of the Broken Shovel will spawn, and picking it up will give you "Mom's Shovel." Now you must continue the run and make it to Dark Room with Mom's Shovel. Somewhere in Dark Room, there will be a grave room with a patch of dirt in the center. Using Mom's Shovel on the patch of dirt will unlock the Forgotten. Edit: I forgot to mention what he does, I put it in the replies
@McBadassish
Жыл бұрын
The timer for boss rush doesn't apply when holding the broken shovel. They were, at least, that kind.
@SapphireDragon357
Жыл бұрын
What makes the Forgotten not worth it though?
@dubo2769
Жыл бұрын
@@SapphireDragon357 whoops I forgot to mention that lol, he has a fun mechanic but for what it is it's not worth it imo. He has a melee attack and can go into a spirit form that shoots normal tears. He has bone hearts (not as good as normal hearts) and his spirit form has soul hearts (also not as good as normal hearts) and he does normal damage. like he's not bad but for what he is his unlock method is just stupid
@Unapologeticweeb
Жыл бұрын
forgotten is still better then ??? or the keeper
@McBadassish
Жыл бұрын
@@Unapologeticweeb The harder to unlock character is definitely better than both of them, I agree.
Hearing about Shining Force and Final Fantasy Tactics in the same video makes me happy
@Ramsey276one
Жыл бұрын
Same
@GruppeSechs
Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna get destroyed for saying this, but SF was the better game for me. More memorable.
@Ramsey276one
Жыл бұрын
@@GruppeSechs I liked it
What's worse?: -Unlocking a totally useless weapon/armor/character after too much effort *or* -Unlocking a way overpowered weapon/armor/character after way, way, way too much effort and you only get it after there's nothing left to use all that power on. I honestly feel like the latter is worse.
@Kris-wo4pj
Жыл бұрын
If I can't get that overpowered thing in new game+ or the challenges and its no longer overpowered in those situations then yes the latter will always be worse.
@robertbeisert3315
Жыл бұрын
"Here's the Doomotron 85k, with boss seeking laser bullets that turn every hostile into candy that actually makes you LOSE weight. "Shoot it at this stationary tree once so we can watch the credits."
@ShiKageMaru
Жыл бұрын
@@robertbeisert3315 exactly!
@theodorehunter4765
Жыл бұрын
The Wyrmhero Blade in FF12.
@SgtSupaman
Жыл бұрын
Like that old Yu-Gi-Oh gameboy game (can't remember the name). It has three god cards. One you get before the endgame tournament, so it is useful. One you get right before the final duel, and it almost isn't worth including in your deck, because you should have a perfect setup by then. And one you get for winning the final fight, which you never get to use, because you have to give all three of them to some chick to end the game.
I absolutely love the puns Ellen makes! Would be a perfect fit for a "Punday on Sunday"
Rest in peace Adam West. Just listening to his voice made my day.
@Lastjustice
Жыл бұрын
He was a really fun cameo in Lego Batman. Honestly he was probably closet thing DC had to an Stan lee like personality to cameo in these games, which he does the full narration for the 1960s Batman stage. I'm glad both Stan and Adam got to be immortalized in this games for players to enjoy long after they are gone.
@omgnoi
Жыл бұрын
He died !? My day is ruined…
The sad part is that both Adam West and Stan Lee have passed away. However, they may be gone but never forgotten.
@Ilikecatsismychannelname
Жыл бұрын
The world is greatly diminished by their passing.
@lordzeppelin3824
Жыл бұрын
@@Ilikecatsismychannelname hear hear
@Ilikecatsismychannelname
Жыл бұрын
@@lordzeppelin3824 Actually, I'm going to add Christopher Lee to that list too. The world got substantially less interesting and epic when he passed.
@lordzeppelin3824
Жыл бұрын
@@Ilikecatsismychannelname also very true
@caitlinmcadams7166
Жыл бұрын
I'llnever forget unlocking my first Stan Lee in peril rom Lego Marvel Superheroes. Simpler times back then.
Honestly, the Adam West one is worth it regardless of his abilities. He was a fantastic person and actor and just hearing his voice lines made me want to cry now that he has passed away. I live in the same state that he was born in and I went to a Convention in my town back in 2019 and they had a huge Adam West Batman booth where they had the original batmobile and the original outfit that Adam West had wore on the show among some other items. It was really nice but bittersweet. Also yeah Stan Lee is going to have most of the powers of the people he created. HE CREATED THEM. Adam West didnt create Batman he was just the first to play him. I think its reasonable that they would allow Lego Stan Lee to have access to his creations powers and only give Adam West a batarang.
@infiniteplanes5775
Жыл бұрын
They should have given Adam West more. For many people growing up, including me, he _was_ Batman
I remember unlocking Joghurt when I was a kid and thinking "oh wow, a warrior hamster! he must be tough" after going through all that. Joke was on me.
Hope he continues to get those fun size candy bars as a running gag 😂
I had the Shining Force game as a kid and was convinced there was some greater purpose to Jogurt. I kept hoping he'd somehow transform into a better character. This was before you could easily look things up online. Damn you Jogurt!!! :D
@GruppeSechs
Жыл бұрын
I was about to say this video is wrong and that he becomes a beast later once he levels up and gets EXP, because he always takes 1 damage no matter what... but that was the unlockable jellyfish from SF2.
@BMoser-bv6kn
Жыл бұрын
@@GruppeSechs Domingo's in SF1 and CD~
@GruppeSechs
Жыл бұрын
@@BMoser-bv6kn I always get that mixed up.
It's always a good day when Andy talks over the spoiler crawl
Adam West is so damned lovable. How did he pull that off?
@biffwellington6144
Жыл бұрын
I would've loved to see Adam West in some sort of buddy action-comedy movie with the guy I consider to be his British counterpart, Roger Moore. Ah, what could've been, if only I ran Hollywood.
Adam West is SO worth the effort.
Jogurt making other characters appear as hamsters sure sounds like a win to me.
Adam West was a National Treasure. I absolutely love that he always made everyone smile and laugh with his performances. You are sorely missed. (RIP to Stan Lee as well❤️)
The good news about The Lost is that the difficult unlock can now be bypassed in Afterbirth/Afterbirth+/Repentance. And you can unlock an item that allows one hit a room. He's actually a great character now. As opposed to 'Tainted Lost' or Pre-Repentance Keeper...
@desfefe
Жыл бұрын
Tainted loss is a horrible character, but I guess the ultimate hard mode
@jankowalski9039
Жыл бұрын
@@desfefe he rly isn't tho. He's got very high dmg, gets better items and still has flight and spectral to start with. If anything he's the ultimate glass cannon. And not poorly designed garbage with nothing to make up for it like t keeper.
@Unapologeticweeb
Жыл бұрын
"better items" note to self never trust edmunds understanding of what constitutes a good item cough soymilk cough bombs brain
@desfefe
Жыл бұрын
@@jankowalski9039 LOL OG keeper was horrid tbf
@jankowalski9039
Жыл бұрын
@@desfefe now that he's got 3 hp, regular keeper is fine.
I love Ellen's hilariously terrible and/or terribly hilarious jokes, they honestly make my day. Love the channel everyone, you all do such an amazing job 👏👏✌️😁👍
Not to mention you also have to find Cloud's materia blade or whatever exactly it was called in order to use his special abilities. And it wasn't exactly a powerful weapon, on top of his skills having very long charge times even with the one time mage ability.
I’d say Gold Mario in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Yay, another reskin of an already-existing character… And he’s a *reskin of a reskin* if that makes sense. He’s a reskin of Metal Mario, who is a reskin of Mario. Bruh.
@ransfordflentjar5694
Жыл бұрын
Nintendo was probably thinking “replace the silver with gold that’d look dope” or “if we have a silver Mario why not a gold one as well?” Dimps does the same shit with the Dragon Ball Xenoverse series but worse in my opinion because although there are multiple different presets of characters with different moves, there a quite a lot with the exact same moves and outfit as well as maps that are simply reskins of other maps
@thediscodevil0949
Жыл бұрын
@@ransfordflentjar5694 A gold version of Mario has existed since New Super Mario Bros. 2, so that might be why.
The Londoner really jumped out of Ellen when she said "rational"
Seeing Shining Force mentioned makes me beyond happy.
@Lastjustice
Жыл бұрын
Well Jogurt has no downside to being recruited in Shining Force, as like you have limited slots for chaarcters(unlike FFT tactics where you only get 16 slots.). Not like you have to use him in combat, and he gives you 4 more inventory slots to hold stuff which you have limited inventory. He's basically a pack mule for the team. He's typically holding potions till I promote my team and use all the stat raising potions.
@GruppeSechs
Жыл бұрын
@@Lastjustice That's true. He's basically a field medic with high move so he can get to people more easily. You can also use him to get unguarded chests and stuff.
@GruppeSechs
Жыл бұрын
Same. Such an underappreciated game just because it was an RPG that wasn't on SNES.
@rowanmorris2187
Жыл бұрын
Same, my first ever RPG.
How about Elijah Price from Road Redemption? You unlock him by beating campaign+ mode with 10 characters, meaning he'll most likely be the last character you unlock. He'll most likely die in one hit, doesn't gain any of the benefits from the skill tree... and that's about it. In fact, one of the bullet points on his list of "abilities" just says "Good luck".
Give credit to the mime... he doesn't give up his craft. And I really miss SSX 😢 😔 😞
@Gatorade69
Жыл бұрын
Yet another thing EA has killed off.
@Malyghostu
Жыл бұрын
Same. I remember not being able to put it down. As a child, I remember trying to hide from my parents TO AVOID TRICK OR TREATING ON HALLOWEEN so I could play it more. And I LOVED candy.
@nathanielbass771
Жыл бұрын
funny thing, in Final Fantasy Tactics mentioned in this video, "mimes" are the strongest class in the game for their unique ability to duplicate ANY action an ally performs except for movement. That's ANY action and all mimes on the field will mimic it
@mistydolphin2524
Жыл бұрын
Give credit to a mime? NEVER! They know what they are.
@genericname2747
Жыл бұрын
He's so committed that he'd rather starve than speak to you. Actually maybe he just has social anxiety
I know it was just a bit, but it would've been real funny to watch Andy try to catch a fun-size Milky Way after every successful line =P
There's probably a lot of Fire Emblem characters that would fit in this list. Best I can recall is Karla in Fire Emblem 7. You can only get her in Hector mode, you need to use a character you'd normally never use and level it up significantly. You then need to get draw against said character in an arena. Since you only get a limited amount of turns in said map and since the arena is the only way to get your characters some hard needed xp on that level, you'd need to sacrifice all of that as well. Then, you need to get a draw against Karla in the arena; winning means you only get a bit of exp and kill Karla. If you lose, you don't get Karla and even lose the character you painstakingly leveled. Karla is decent to mediocre and definately underleveled. Since you don't get many chances to level said character anymore, having her become useful in the toughest battles is difficult at best.
@HylianFox3
Жыл бұрын
Karla and Renault are pretty horrendous for being such latecomers. Still, Karla probably edges out Renault for being Hector-only and somehow knowing you need to both get Barte to level 5 Warrior and bring him along on that mission. Also, he has to survive but giving him an Iron Rune makes that trivial. He also needs to not kill Karla but just have him equip a bow to not counterattack. There's also Karel, who's inferior to Harken in every way despite being harder to recruit. He's Karla's brother, so it must run in the family...
@Airlord3670
Жыл бұрын
Unlocking Gangrel in the Awakening DLC was a pain I remember. I think you need to speak to him 3 times with Chrom, but he’ll attack you each time on his turn. However, though you can just remove any weapons to stop him dying on a counter attack, he’s surrounded by other enemies who can then attack you with impunity. And I don’t think he’ll only target Chrom. All for an ok character who’s the despicable villain of the first half of the game. Did I mention this mission unlocks at the very end of the game?
@Superluigi881
Жыл бұрын
For a more recent example. The three unlockable post game characters in fire emblem three hopes are a massive disappointment. (Since the game is still fairly new I'll leave out names to avoid spoilers for those who care.) Not because they're bad (they're actually quite op) but because there's almost no content you can use them in, even with new game plus they're limited to record battles only and they don't add any supports. Also you need to grind like crazy to change their classes because they can't use the training grounds or any facilities for that matter. Also their clothes don't even change upon reclassing. They were handled with no care at all. Also they cost a lot of renown so you probably won't be able to get all three in your first run. Edit: There is one other unlockable who is a bit better as he has access to story battles and facilities but he starts at level 1 with no skills and you have to beat the game twice to get him. He joins early on your third run.
"Back to Outside Extra with you!"
There’s something else worth noting about the Lost: there’s an even harder version. In the Repentance DLC, every character has a Tainted version, unlocked by doing specific tasks in the alternate floors, completing the ascension sequence, and having either the Red Key or a Red Key fragment on you to gain access to a room that contains your current character’s Tainted version. Now, as you mentioned, the Lost has no HP. However, the Lost also gets a starting item that makes him a bit easier: Holy Mantle. It’s a barrier that absorbs one hit per room. It’s still challenging, but it gives you some room for error. Tainted Lost, on the other hand? Well, first up, Tainted Lost will always find better items than other characters, that’s the upside to him. The downside is: he only starts with a Holy Card, a consumable item which can give you one Holy Mantle shield. Once you’ve lost that shield, the only way to get it back is to find another Holy Card (and also, i am like 75% sure that Tainted Lost cannot find Holy Mantle), making him way, way harder than regular Lost
I think you can unlock Conan O'Brien in Lego Batman 3 as well. He wasn't nearly as excited to be there as Kevin Smith though 😅
You know at the very least, Adam West's greatest ability is that he forever lives on in our hearts.
How cruel of Outside Xbox to leave us on such a cliffhanger, will Andy ever get his Milky Way???
Cloud honestly had the set up to be the most powerful character in the game because of what had to be done just to get him. - have to have done every sidequest to get/unlock all of the other secret/special characters just to trigger his event. - even then you have to be past a certain part of the game so you can actually do the battle for him. - needs a *very* specific sword which wouldn't be so bad if it actually was good, but by the time you get him you have equipment roughly twice as strong, arguably triple taking into account whom uses said equipment. - his skills have a charge time, some skills having niche use but what they do can absolutely be useful. -Problem is, they are fairly slow, need an ability to be decently quick and (here's the worst part) they target panels, not the target. So if you try using an ability on an enemy and said enemy moves just a few panels away, that's it. It won't hit. Anddd on top of that, his limits use his magic stat for damage. Like why, dude does not have a good magic stat if I recall so even if you were to land his limits it won't be doing much damage. He was clearly a very last minute add on. There's no way much effort was put into him with all this going against him.
Yeah and what makes Cloud worse... you HAVE to do the quest after to get his Buster Sword or he can't even use his unique abilities x.x
Wes is one of those characters you choose if you want to make a challenging game even harder.
@sirhazington
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't that his entire purpose. To give the "The game is to easy"-crowd a challenging character
@rorrim0
Жыл бұрын
The unenlightened might believe this, but true DS/T players know that Wes is broken. His true hidden potential can only be tapped by masters.
Whoever voted for Cloud in FFT...good job. But OX didn't even talk about how you had to find the Materia Blade so he can use his power, which has to take a few turns of charging to activate.
@procow2274
Жыл бұрын
Cloud with fast charge is actually pretty good with finishing touch. And he can use things like chantage and ribbon
@Buglin_Burger7878
Жыл бұрын
Base Cloud with Finishing Touch and no other abilities is able to 1-shot enemies even when Cloud is lv1 and they are lv99. It is certain to inflict Stop, Petrify, or Death... on at max 5 enemies if I remember right.
I can almost hear the deafening silence of thousands of mimes screaming silently in rage at the insults they have endured in this video
Oh gosh that SSX3 “Super Uber!!!” clip gave me so much nostalgia
I am quite happy Don't Starve made it onto this list.
Cloud with short charge and finishing touch is actually pretty potent one of the best status attacks in the game. And hes the only male that can equip some female exclusive gear a call back to ff7
@tristanward9937
Жыл бұрын
But it’s too much effort for how late you get him. It’s not the game is really hard to even require that.
Outside Xbox played this game as well, but I'd like to refer/remind them of Death Road to Canada; Kepa mode. Kepa mode is unlocked if you manage to beat increasingly difficult modes. Getting your party to Canada in regular mode is challenging enough, but the required modes increase the number of zombies, the difficulty of events and locations. If you manage to beat all those modes, you unlock Kepa mode. In Kepa mode, you get character Kepa (the game developer) who has terrible stats and dies in 1 hit. On top of that, the difficulty is increased further in Kepa mode and you ONLY get the achievement of beating Kepa mode properly if you manage to get Kepa to Canada alive.
That hasn't been how you unlock The Lost in years. It's now "beat The Lamb as Isaac to unlock the Missing Poster, get the Missing Poster and die in a Sacrifice Room while holding it".
Andy chastising poor Ellen for making puns, as if he hasn't stood off screen shouting "Boooooo!" to Jane and Mike on several occasions!
Imagine how awkward must have been if Andy misread the milky way line as soon as he had finished it
@Dwight_
Жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@michaelandreipalon359
Жыл бұрын
@@Dwight_ Actually, the end of the video.
(8:50) No, the phrase is _"irrational fear_ of spiders" not "it's irrational to fear spiders". You can have irrational fear of murderers and death too, only if your fear is irrational. There are some spiders you can have a rational fear to.
The Matchstick Men in Resident Evil Outbreak. Considering they require you to collect every single special item in the game, which requires completing every scenario multiple tomes, as each character on each difficulty, and what you get is brightly coloured stick men, with dreadful stats, some with painfully slow movement speed and even starting the round in the Danger state.
FFT getting Cloud was a bit rough, but besides him you also pick up several unique characters in the process. Definitely worth it to me
@loka7783
Жыл бұрын
Also while he does require a fair amount of work, he more than earns his place on the final line up for beating the game. His final job skill has a 1 in 3 chance of killing your opponent outright, turning then to stone instantly or doing a fair amount of damage. Okay so he doesn't do as much damage as a Monk that has focused 20 times with the dual wield support, 2/3 for insta foe removal is pretty good. :)
@paulwolfley7785
Жыл бұрын
@@loka7783 corner a enemy as a chicken, take turns hitting and healing a trapped chicken and you'll level up fast enough
@loka7783
Жыл бұрын
@@paulwolfley7785 Me I use the battle ground that's southwest of the execution stage. You set up on the island, the enemy has to come to you with the back most space being pretty much invulnerable to most random attackers. I put a monk in front of Cloud. Cloud pretty much gains a level every time he hits the monk. the monk can then heal himself and Cloud since they are on the same level. If Somehow Cloud goes down, the monk is right there to revive him. Rinse and repeat.
Cloud can be tough to level, but he can be pretty powerful if you have the right equipment and skills.
You don't do the Cloud sidequests in Tactics for Cloud himself, you do it for Beowulf and Reis (and Worker 8). They're all gotten along the way after starting it.
SSX3 is still to this day one of my favourite games. The yeti also appears in SSX on tour as a multiplayer character
Ellen: "American football had confusing rules" Cricket: exists
Hey could you guys do top 7 worst classes to unlock? Some classes seem cool but then you play them and find out they kinda suck
@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor
Жыл бұрын
That feels like it would need to be a game specific list in something like Braveky Default 2 which has tons of classes/jobs just because of how much classes change between different games. And also, in that case it wouldn't work since besides a few of them every class is story related.
The only thing I remember about SSX is never being able to play the original because some kind of harmonics to the snowboarding FX sent my dog absolutely barmy every time I tried... She had no response to me hadoken-ing, shooting, screaming, exploding or even causing other animal noises but 1 second of sliding down a hill on a board and FRENZY!
@medusathedecepticon
Жыл бұрын
Ok That's a little funny 😆
I don't know how that yeti got there yet-he managed it. You're not alone Ellen
To make cloud in fft even worse, you can only use his special ability limit breaks with the buster sword equipped. There's only 1 in the game, and it's in a very hard to reach spot on top of a volcano in a random battle map. He's even more useless without it.
@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor
Жыл бұрын
Also, doesn't the Buster Sword quickly get outclassed by pretty much everything?
@retsz
Жыл бұрын
@@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor all the knight swords for sure. Not that it matters. The charge time for limits is exceptionally long. Even if you have the sword and learned all the limits, you'll never actually pull them off before the target moves out of the way.
@procow2274
Жыл бұрын
@@retsz thats why you give him short charge and use finishing touch.
@Buglin_Burger7878
Жыл бұрын
It isn't difficult to get, Spike Boots for +1 Jump and Move-Find item are both incredibly early game items/abilities. It also lets him get Finishing Touch which will 1-shot enemies without fail. You don't need damage when you will always inflict stop, petrify, or death without missing.
Ellen, your puns are the best. And the most adorable.
Fun analaysis video! Thanks for uploading!
It is a bit funny to frame FFT's Cloud cameo as less than such a famous character deserved when he wasn't really famous at all when the cameo was made. Don't forget, FFT came out just _months_ after FFVII, so the games would have been in development at the same time. He didn't cameo there because he was famous, but because he was the protagonist of the current mainline Final Fantasy game.
This is what happens when the others leave Andy and Ellen alone in the studio.
I love your puns Ellen. Keep it up. ☺️
So timely! Just happened to be replaying “FF Tactics: WOTL” recently!
You neglected to mention that Cloud can only use his class specific skills if you get the materia blade, which is buried on top of a volcano, which you need to have a thief/lancer to get that high, and the materia blade is equivalent in strength to a broad sword 😂😂
Cloud was still really cool to unlock!!! Now it's time to grind harder than Tony Hawk in a coffee shop!
The items locked behind the lost are actually some of the best in the game
@Empress_Skye
Жыл бұрын
And unfortunatly it's the same for jacob and esau but unlike them I do actually love the lost
Nobody Saves The World: The Egg If not for the fact it is necessary to unlock the Dragon and the Hard Shell Passive ability, the egg would be entirely pointless. Its heal ability freezes the character on the spot in a bullet hell mob game and its basic attack deals self damage any time it makes contact with literally anything.
Vampire Survivors has incredible unlockable characters, and some pretty good ones for this! My suggestion would be the ghosts Exdash, Toastie, and Smith, who are all unlocked in bizarre reference-y ways and all have extremely low stats. They're not totally useless though-- at one point (before some new items got added) Toastie was the only way in the game to kill Death! Thanks for the amazing video as always!
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn had so many useless characters that could be unlocked and they would be right next to really good characters. Since the game had limited exp that could be earned, you really needed to plan which ones would be worth focusing, which ones needed to be babied, and which ones needed to be never used even if you had the party space. One that comes to mind is Meg. She is the only tank you get early on in the game, but is completely worthless. Her max stats and growth are mediocre and do not contribute to her role as a tank in any way. Even leveling her up is worthless as you have several other story critical characters that need to be babied up (like Micaiaha or Sothe, on harder difficulties). Oh and her story is literally nothing worth talking about. She just shows up, wants to marry another side character (who doesn’t want to), and then just marries some ordinary person at the end credits.
Andy, they're not paying you enough for your talents. Raise your price.
"You're going to have to grind harder than Tony Hawk at a coffee shop" I'm ded
The lost is one of the most op characters of isaac. Being able to take a hit every room is way too strong
@creampuffkuru9878
Жыл бұрын
Thats only on afterbirth the original and rebirth only had flight as a perk considering the way its unlocked in this video im sure its talking about the one with just a flight perk cause in afterbirth you just need the poster and die in the sacrifice room.
In fairness, the mime from don't starve was meant to give players a bigger challenge.
Every Evil Dragon is gangster until the Army of Hamsters shows up at his fortress.
Every one of Andy's lines about mimes was just absolute gold 🤣
I can't believe you guys didn't like Wes. A Mime is a terrible thing to waste.
@undergnomes6248
Жыл бұрын
You're not watching outside Xtra now
@JKM395
Жыл бұрын
@@undergnomes6248 There's always time for a Mel Brooks joke, no matter what channel you're on.
@whocares9033
Жыл бұрын
Booooooooooooooooooooo
@JKM395
Жыл бұрын
@@whocares9033 (Bows deeply) Thank you.
Ellen reminded me of Mike in her delivery on 4:17. Also her pun was awesome, an out of body experience, if you will!
"Ellen please. You're on Outside Xbox now." I wish this wasn't the best bit because your hard work is super appreciated, but it is the best bit.
@UpNorthSoutherner
Жыл бұрын
Although the post-gym comment isn't far behind either.
You forgot to mention that an added bonus if you don't find the buster sword leveling won't save Cloud lol
Among the hard mode characters, you could probably add Aria from Crypt of the Necrodancer. And then all her flaws would be amplified with the DLC character Coda.
That timing for a video with cloud in it is uncanny If you know you know.
@micahnewby7964
Жыл бұрын
And if I don't would you mind explaining it?
Man it is super cool to see Shining Force get a mention in an OxBox video. I spent many, many, _many_ hours during my teen years playing a ROM of that game.
I think that a lot of these types of characters are a developer's way of saying "was it really worth it?"
I'm a simple girl, I hear Ellen pun, I click the like button
The reason Cloud is so weak when you summon him, is it happens during the bit of Final Fantasy 7 when he's trapped in the Life Stream.
@ChristophBrinkmann
2 ай бұрын
No, the reason he's so weak is because the developers programmed him that way.