One thing I enjoy most is knowing that I dont need to set land speed records towing. Makes life so much more enjoyable.

I just had a $6200 turbo put on my 2010 6.7 L Cummins with 125,000 miles on it. I could have rebuilt the entire engine in that Ford you’re driving for that much money. I am a born-again gas engine guy.

@oldnumber6

Жыл бұрын

A fleece cheetah is $2900 and it takes 3 hours for a shop to swap. You were ripped off.

@jimm2442

Жыл бұрын

Wait until the CP4 lets go on that 6.7 if you think the turbo was expensive.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate you posting and that's one more thing people don't think of is the turbos, and there are cheaper ones out there but even for the 2500 turbo that was just posted, I think we could rebuild the godzilla. Thanks for Watching and posting.

@chevy6794

Жыл бұрын

Ya. The new diesels are too complicated. I personally wouldn’t buy one. An old 5.9 Cummins 12v or common rail would out tow that getting better millage. Parts are still expensive but they just don’t break. Having said that there not as safe.

@fasteddie51

Жыл бұрын

@@oldnumber6 That’s what happens when you are 900 miles from home and you don’t know anybody, you take it to a Dodge Dealer knowing it’s gonna be expensive. In any event I’m done with diesels.

Ive had diesels since 1996 and towed for a living, many years ago. I still tow 15k equipment, trailors and boat with a 12' beam with my 7.3 and am completely satisfied. She's no diesel but am super impressed comparing it to my 2015 6.7 SD. I have had a blow out at 70mph and am lucky to have survived. I tow typically between 65-75 mph and leave a lil more room between vehicles due to no exhaust brake. The tranny does a great job and now with almost 60k miles logged on this 2020 F250 I don't see me going back to a diesel as much as I want the new 500/1200 SD. Once you get it out of your head, I absolutely have to get a diesel to tow you will realize the initial savings upfront and then all the additional savings in the fuel, oil changes, urea, extra filters that just doesn't need to be done. 90% of us do not need a diesel other than the mentality of I want one. It is great to have choices. Great review..Thanks Man!

Great video. I never mess with my phoney baloney shifter either. My 7.3 is a GREAT platform for towing. I applaud you for going Sane Speed. I HATE it when I see jackasses on I10 (flat highway) pulling heavy with diesels running 85mph with diesels. That’s completely irresponsible in my mind. If you are towing anything you should be MORE cautious. People’s lives are in your hands. Just because you can do doesn’t mean you SHOULD. My 7.3 can haul 15,000 at 80 but I would never do it. Too much BAD can happen.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 💯, so many people tell me all the time I can pull at 80, no sweat....that's insane. I appreciate you watching and posting.

@chevy6794

Жыл бұрын

Ya. Try stopping with 20000 lbs.

@armedmariner

Жыл бұрын

@@chevy6794 see now THAT is the entire point,sir. Yes you can haul ass like a monkey shot into space with big platforms like 3/4 and 1 Tons with diesels (or a 7.3) but stuff happens fast at high speed and you have to safely negotiate. Your ability to brake a huge load is infinitely tougher at 80mph than at 60. As I get older I drive like a Grampa. If I am going 100 miles and I do 60 I will have an elapsed time of 1 hr 40 min. If I do it at 80 I can cut that time to 1 hr 15 min. So I save 25 min BUT most of that is stress inducing white knuckle driving and you are putting yourself, your passengers and the innocent occupants of cars around you at risk. So when I see a 3/4 ton diesel (or even a Tundra - people love to push their Tundras) loaded down with a BIG 5th wheel camper and they are doing 80+ it boils my blood especially if as they pass me I see kids in the back seat obliviously watching movies on the built in infotainment systems. That’s a completely irresponsible father / driver who could kill his family around the next corner. I observe TRUCKERS - guys who haul BIG LOADS with BIG DIESELS for a living. Some of them go too fast - yes indeed - but a great proportion move at the right speed for the conditions. So often I’ve been hauling along in a car doing 80+ (not trailering) and I pass a unique flatbed load. Then a couple hours later I stop for a quick pee and a cup of coffee. Back on the highway what do I see? That same unique flatbed load with a SAFE driver just putting down the miles one after the other. My hat goes off to those boys. They are the Asphalt Hero’s in my book. Safely managing big loads is what they do for 2-3 decades of work. Bravo to them.

@chevy6794

Жыл бұрын

@@armedmariner agree. And as a bonus you save a lot of fuel. It’s like this competition mentally. They think your like Wow that this has soo much power but the truth is they all do now. Lol.

@hyracer6684

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, keep mine at 65 or below when towing my 5th wheel.

Man I can listen to that thing sing all day. That's others have stated that (do this myself) I don't use cruise control going up a hill once it starts to hunt, or if I do leave it on cruise control I'll just pick the gear and let it sit 4000 or 4500. And the guys that say he should have bought a diesel, hand him the money and maybe he will

I never understand why diesels are brought up in videos for gas motors. It’s a completely different engine type. Of course the torque specs are going to be way different. What is attempted to be proven talking about a diesel here on this video. Everyone thinks, “oh man, your hitting 4,000+ rpm pulling a load up a hill, that truck is struggling. My diesel with 5,000,000ft-lbs of torque does better.” Good for it! I sure hope it would! Most are doing a diesel a disservice by buying a diesel, and using it on a weekend camping trip. Great video on the 7.3l. It’s a simple video, showing the performance of this specific motor doing what it’s meant for… pulling. Comparing a diesel to a gas, is like comparing an Apple to a potato.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

💯 agree, no matter what put a video on people ask so I have to keep giving them the comparison. I've had so many diesel trucks, many haven't and they think they need to go from a ford explorer towing to a f350 diesel....just getting as much info as I can out to everyone..thanks for watching.

I’ve owned 5th wheels over 30 years and went through two big gassers of the day including a Ford 460 and biggest gas truck in the day. I never felt well pulling until I bought my first Cummins in 1999 and that thing was a hoss. I still pull heavy 5th wheels but have a 2004 Dodge with the 5.9 HO paired to a 6 speed stick. My truck now has 240,000 miles on it, just tires batteries, an AC job and brakes. I just did a 2,000 mile round trip to Colorado and my total over the scales weight was 18,960. I ran it 62mph, about 1,900 rpm and averaged 12 mpg. On mountain grades, I sometimes drop it to 4th but rarely below 5th. My truck is paid for and a few truck payments more than covers my fuel cost as well as camp fees. I’m near retirement and if my truck quits, I likely will just rebuild the engine or transmission because I know what I got and too tight to spend $70 to $90K.

@automotiveinquiries9673

26 күн бұрын

@curtcoltharp3719 I agree with you, I kick myself daily for trading g my 06 HO 6 spd cummins. I would absolutely rebuild it and not waste the money on the new ones. The new tech is neat, but also a nightmare. Other than that if it does the job save the money for something funner and more useful than a new rig.

@curtcoltharp3719

26 күн бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673 Mine is a long bed 3/4 ton with 4 doors and so I’m right at the max on my GCVW but my truck rolled off the assembly line identical to a 1 ton except for one less leaf spring and different decals and my bed weight is well within specs. I have no issues except that sometimes backing is harder in tight places. I’m not interested in pulling a 5th wheel with a short bed and that sliding hitch bs. Mine is straight, good paint, no damage and clean interior. I often find notes on my windshield from people wanting to buy it. These 7 plus liter gas trucks might pull but that 3,500 rpm dealio would drive me nuts. I also wonder if a gasser would still be going strong at 240,000 miles? I highly doubt it. Mine burns no oil, looks nice and it’s long ago paid for and at my age, I could give a sh-t Impressing anyone. If I pulled a trailer 100 or 200 mile radius, I might look at gas but I pull mine 1,000 plus one way and more and I did the gas deal in my 30’s. The stick is tedious in Dallas traffic but I rarely drive mine local and I’ve read that that 6 speed manual is dang near bullet proof. I may need injectors, clutch, turbo or transmission at some point but I’ll just fix mine and keep driving it and let the $80,000 purchase price earn me interest. My only gripe is that they quieted the turbo whine. The turbo whine gives you a sense of power. When I hook onto something, I want it to move😉

I know this was a test; but it's a great example of why I refuse to use CC while towing. That truck was in and out of gears every 3 seconds going up the hill and it was completely not necessary. Good towing technique focuses more on constant power and less on constant speed. It's ok to drop down MPH while climbing a steeper section, and then gaining speed in a shallower section and just averaging out the MPH while keeping power/gear constant.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

On those hills I would have locked out 6th and maybe even 5th gear. That would have kept it from needing to drop down to 3rd to regain the lost speed. All the shifting increases tranny temp and on longer and steeper grades in hotter conditions holding a gear at higher rpm keeps the tranny cooler than it shifting between 3rd and 6th

Beautiful engine sound Melody

Well the other thing you need to worry about is how far away is the next gas station. For worry free travel in those remote areas of the west I would advise getting the 58 gallon gas tank installed that transfer flow makes.

Man. I really don’t love that speedometer. Weird complaint but it’s just not very precise, compared to the Chevy. I’m sure there’s a screen with a digital number but yeah, it would bother me. Great video, that 7.3 works great, same for the transmission.

Awesome video man keep up the great content !

Our last RV (2007 Winnebago Voyage 35L class A) was on a Workhorse W24 Chassis. It had the 8.1 GM V8 with a 2000 series Allison 6 speed. GM discontinued that Engine when the government bailed them out. That engine was available in the HD Pickups and the Suburban. If you want to stick with a gas engine and can find one of those then you will have a towing machine. I would be interested in how the GM 6.6 gas and ten speed stack up against your truck. There is a lot of noise currently about the 7.3's having major issues around 45,000 miles. Personally I would rather not be the beta tester on my dime so Ford Motor Company can learn.

@nathanmcdonald610

Жыл бұрын

What issues have you heard about the 7.3L beyond 45K miles? I frequent a few Ford Truck forums and I haven't heard of any real issues with the 7.3L since they hit the roads a couple of years ago.

the godzilla 7.3 runs pretty strong i just did 500 mile trip lots of 7% grades was 21400 pounds truck and trailer 65 to 68 mph the whole trip 6 to 7 mpg my 2011 ram 2500 6.7 got 8 to9 same trip

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

That's actually really decent mpg's, and a beast of a load to tow, thanks for posting and travel safe.

It’s not the engine that holding it back, the cruise actually applies the brakes on Fords. If you stop after a long downhill and pull over, you’ll be surprised how warm your brakes are. TFL truck discovered this on accident.

@revest100

Жыл бұрын

What video is that? TFL never uses cruise control on their towing videos. I would be very interested to see that video.

@slidewide1999

Жыл бұрын

@@revest100 sorry I meant might have meant tow/haul. Here is the video I was thinking of. Short version: they chevys brakes were 250ish where the fords were significantly higher despite the perception of going east on them. I’ve had a couple F150’s and 250’s and the cruise definitely uses the brakes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4Zhya-Qgt3cf8o.html

I don't even look at my tranny temps in my 2020 550 flatbed tow cars all day long foot to the floor (up to 82 on highway) sometimes towing two cars at the same time it's at 118,000 miles now zero issues edit: mine has the 6.7 we do have one flatbed with the 7.3 it's at about 100,000 driven just about the same still doing great no lights no nothing we just change the oil and fuel filters regularly that's it

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome. Thanks for posting, and drive safe out there .

That would drive me nuts!!!!!

Cool..

Wow she sure dose purr up at 5000 RPM’s

My 6.7 would purr at 1800rpm all the way up that ant hill.

@ridynh7923

Жыл бұрын

Let me guess, your comparing a gas to a diesel? My motor cycle goes after that my kids electric bike. Two different things…. What’s your point?

@tylerking27

7 ай бұрын

What’s your point? You probably only tow 6 times a year and not that heavy…. Glad it’s your money you waste…

The Diesel Exhaust brake on the Powerstroke 6.7 is the worst outta the Big three! Ram has the best diesel exhaust brake in the industry! Powerstroke boys have nothing to brag about in that department!

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

I'll agree, my ram exhaust brake was a beast, darn near had to push the throttle going down the gauntlet. The ford one, without cruise grade management is not the best.

What fuel grade are you using? Do you ever change based on towing or climate?

remind me not to let you drive my truck. that was rough on it.

7mpg nice! We have come so far lol

@nathanmcdonald610

Жыл бұрын

No amount of advancement is going to help something towing a ton of weight get much better than that lol. Honestly, it's amazing that people are reporting getting 15 to 16mpg "unloaded" with these 7.3L trucks. 25 years ago an engine of this displacement would have got single digit mileage unloaded or towing.

@Anthony-qq2ue

Жыл бұрын

​@@nathanmcdonald610 Take a look at the omega 1 engine. Modern engines are only 30% efficient converting heat to work. The omega 1 is over 50%(forgot) efficient and will give a 1 ton diesel truck over 35mpg.

What rears in that truck

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

3.55

Great info & video 👍⚾️ what year is your Ford ? Can you upgrade brakes at all ? Thx again . 👍

@automotiveinquiries9673

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate you being here. It was a 22. The brakes are actually really good. There are pads you can change and you could add slotted and drilled rotors if you needed. Although I would run them until they needed replacing as they were great as is. Instead If I was upgrading anything I'd put timbrens on it for towing control. Thats about all the upgrading I'd do to it besides the tonneau, bedliner which I added and the puck system for the 5th wheel which I did.

Any word back from your ford insider about why your redline starts at 6?

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

Mine is 5 to 6. The v10 at work is also 5 to 6. I'll be talking with ford reps in April. I will ask then.

I kind of hate the transmission bouncing around the gears like that. Especially where it has to downshift twice, then upshift twice seems extra wear and tear. It seems like it would be better just to stick in that middle gear.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

It's the same on the diesel and soon chevy will have tens on both. From the ones we had at work, although its.shifting more...it's more seamless. It does hold the torque better than the sixes....not dogging the sixes though.

@Sylvan_dB

Жыл бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673 Change is hard. 😁 Still, if I was driving I think I'd try locking out the higher gear(s) and see if it would hold my speed better if kept to a slightly higher RPM. When climbing hills I'm willing to give up a bit of fuel economy to (maybe?) save some wear on the clutch packs in that 10 speed.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

@@Sylvan_dB we'll give it a shot and see.

@joeallison2779

Жыл бұрын

I’ve eliminated any sudden double or triple shift down or up by taking it out of cruise control just before we go up any inclines. This really smooth out the ride about the drastic gear changes. Once I reach the top of the hill, I reengage cruise control, and everything comes out just fine.

@wildeman7443

Жыл бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673 wrong on a diesel. I lock mine into 5th and it stays there the whole time, and keeps temps cool. No up or downshifting.

wow that thing was screaming to go up the hill at 7:40 mark...I love the 7.3l but all the shifting would drive me nuts on this. What elevation are you at? We tow at 65-70mph so it would be working!

@derekroose6940

6 ай бұрын

If you use cruise control it downshifts more than it really needs to. I tow in manual a lot and will rarely let it get above 4K rpm and that’s only when I’m towing at or above 14k lbs and need to get onto the highway

Hot weather is going to change a lot of things that aren't there for you at 32 degrees. Sorry, the torque of the 6.7 is definitely missing here, everyone can see the praises of a 7.3 but really no comparison.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

No doubt the 6.7 is a monster, I have full respect for. this summer we will put it to the test. I think for the average 1500 owner, that just needs a little more, a 6.7 needs a diligent owner prepared for everything that comes with it. But the gasser gives them more but not overboard. But I agree 6.7=beast mode

@jimm2442

Жыл бұрын

@@automotiveinquiries9673 When the CP4 fails on the 6.7 the cost of that alone would buy 2 new 7.3 engines.

@automotiveinquiries9673

Жыл бұрын

@@jimm2442 agreed 💯

@craigwheeler2057

Жыл бұрын

@HalfShell true that

@nathanmcdonald610

Жыл бұрын

Well yeah, I mean a quick glance at the spec sheet alone will tell you how much less torque the 7.3L has compared the Powerstroke, we're talking 475ftlbs vs over 1000ftlbs. That being said though, the 7.3L has it's purpose, 475ftlbs of torque is still PLENTY especially with 10 forward ratio's to use to it's advantage, that plus the simplicity and much cheaper long term cost of routine maintenance makes the 7.3L an absolute steal by comparison. The extra torque from the Powerstroke is nice, I should know, my work truck is an F-550 Powerstroke and I'm always blown away by how effortless it moves along even when fully loaded down, but that much torque is honestly overkill for anything you should be doing in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. If it were my personal truck, I'd take the 7.3L any day of the week.