I love how salty Garak is after he finds out about Bashir's enhancement. He could never say it aloud, but he's clearly affronted that Bashir was able to keep such a big secret from him. XD

@BackslideDan

6 жыл бұрын

It could be he figured it out and felt special, and is more mad that the secret got out so sloppily. Partly from his life as a spy, partly for no longer having that dirt on Bashir, and partly because he likely had this great setup to reveal he knows, all ruined. Garak loved that Cardassian book that talked about trials that explain the guilt of criminals perfectly, he probably had some Danganronpa style full explanation thing ready to spring, and then in stumbles a couple old farts to poop al over it.

@lizardlogic2564

5 жыл бұрын

Garak wants to feel special. LOL

@laurenjcoates

5 жыл бұрын

pumpkinofdoom is this the first episode where Garak knows? Or is there one before this where he references Bashir’s augmentations?

@InfernosReaper

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's kinda funny in a way. Bashir acted all altruistic and principled, while all along being more like Garak than he would let on. Perhaps Garak had discovered that secret and *that* is what initially drew him to the doctor. Though, I suspect Garak would really be more upset about not realizing when Bashir had been replaced by a Changeling for however long it'd been since they last used the older uniforms.

@robertpatter5509

Жыл бұрын

Garak deep down admires this deception.

It's funny how you take into account that cardassians flirt by arguing

@tatianalyulkin410

Жыл бұрын

I don't think he's flirting- I think he's pissed. I don't think he likes " the new Bashir ". Sorry, Garak, but being a friend/boyfriend of a real life agent " ages " you. Deal with it, cry baby.

@robertcross9047

10 ай бұрын

stop trying to ruin garak with your gay j wish worldview

It's difficult to remain flippant and boyish when you're surrounded by death and destruction. As a doctor, he's always there for the aftermath, the most horrific part of many battles. That's enough to age anyone.

@RIDDICK0911

5 жыл бұрын

And that's why Garak is frustrated. He never saw war from such perspective before.

@tatianalyulkin410

Жыл бұрын

Plus being a friend/boyfriend of a real life spy.

I have a simple requirement: I see Garak, I click.

@MysteriumArcanum

Жыл бұрын

Same, but for me it also applies to Quark and Odo

@elphiegleason3899

Жыл бұрын

Yup Odo, Kira, or Quark

Like an old married couple

@screaming1179

3 жыл бұрын

Arguing is a form of courtship with Cardassians ;)

I’m sorry but these two act so fucking married and it’s really fucking hilarious XD

@mmjahink

11 ай бұрын

They really should have pushed the implied gay angle for both of them. Or Bi in Bashir's case.

@thesilvershining

11 ай бұрын

@@mmjahink I agree!!

It's so confusing how irl I'm only attracted to women, but that outfit on Bashir... (him in general...)

@richa16x

Жыл бұрын

He's a special flavour of Bisexual. I think it's also those big doe like eyes.

One thing I've just noticed about this scene - this looks like its happening in one of the Defiant's corridors. Good detail to set the scene that the ship is on a war footing, with cabinets and trolleys in the corridors because there's no extra space for it all perhaps haha - makes the ship look messy after continual combat operations. Which is exactly what you'd expect I suppose.

Julian’s outfit is so hot here wtf

i love how they made bashir’s outfit way sluttier later in the show.

Thing is...low probability is not a guarantee of failure...just as high probability isn't a guarantee of success.

@MrDibara

4 жыл бұрын

RNG in a nutshell. Playing FGO, many times I got my characters with a 80% chance of criting *and they don't crit.* >:x So yeah, Bashir was on to something there.

@randybugger3006

Жыл бұрын

Roll a nat 20 and watch the wormhole aliens put their prophetic foot up the founders' wet backsides.

I'm surprised Garak isn't more impressed by how much having a genetically enhanced brain could help in espionage.

@RIDDICK0911

5 жыл бұрын

He's just angry that Bashir was able to keep it secret. Or that he couldn't figure it out before the thing became public knowledge.

By far one of the best scenes in the entire franchise. The way it so perfectly sums up the complex relationship of these characters is flawless. A masterclass in Character Writing.

He really gets up in that personal space, doesn't he

not to mention his stint in that Dominion POW camp.

It’s uncanny how much Alexander Siddig and James Callis both look alike and come across so similarly (and are now both in Star Trek!)

"If i was a vulcan, then why are you pissing me off?"

"Not so boyish anymore, Doctor." Said like an insult, but it could easily be interpreted as "You've grown into a man."

Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks Bashir looks extra sexy wearing his uniform like that

@pittland44

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he is kind of sexy with his uniform like that.

@Dragblacker

7 жыл бұрын

You are. He might as well just take the jacket off and wear short sleeves like McCoy sometimes did if it's hindering his work so.

@JanetStarChild

6 жыл бұрын

And I'm a lesbian and I also think Bashir is attractive. Especially with his uniform open like that, and his coyness and cute smile in the end of this scene.

@Chocobear555

6 жыл бұрын

He could wear a black garbage bag and still look sexy!

I'm so glad they reverted his character back to normal after this episode. i'd hate having him be an asshole the rest of the trilogy.

Considering that Cardassians flirt by being argumentative, Garak is coming on to Bashir really strongly here. Its positively indecent. I know hes cute, but geez....Control yourself Garak!

@Dragblacker

7 жыл бұрын

That doesn't explain Dukat and Kira.

@csxfan_

7 жыл бұрын

Actually it kind of does. Kira constantly reminds Dukat she hates him, which Dukat being a Cardassian probably finds attractive. He also would know better than to respond in kind with, since Kira is not a cardassian.

@josefwolanczyk4866

2 ай бұрын

@@DragblackerI raise you one: that scene between Dukat and Garak during the Klingon attack.

I work as a statistician. I genuinely am curious as to how he supposedly calculated the probabilistic results of a sector wide, months (years?) long war.

@dragon22214

Жыл бұрын

I had a friend tell me the further in the future u go the less accurate your going to be

@Youtubehandlesaresilly

Жыл бұрын

Drama always likes to pretend that something like this is actually calculable, when it clearly isn’t or they’d be trillionaire stock traders right now. The future is fundamentally unknowable, black swan events, etc. Even with perfect knowledge of the sector, the error bars are larger than the signal.

Garak is pissed off to know there is someone smarter than him on the ship. That's just not right!!! "Plain, simple Garak" is merely camouflage for his genius! Now this young whippersnapper has the nerve to be brilliant?! Oh, the gall of this Starfleet whelp! 😂🤣

@Kasparovwannabe

11 ай бұрын

I think it was more that his verbal sparring partner had been "cheating."

Dear Garak...re the low percentage Bashir quoted....look up the English at Agincourt or Taffy 3 at the Battle off Samar.

mmm you're not

im sorry but...how do you interrupt that as anything other than flirting?

@JanetStarChild

6 жыл бұрын

They're adorable together.

@Doncroft1

6 жыл бұрын

I think you mean "interpret".

@Chocobear555

6 жыл бұрын

Umm ... Because it's *not* flirting? It's two friends bickering. Good grief! You'd probably think they were flirting if they were discussing mold.

@thegreenmanofnorwich

5 жыл бұрын

@@Chocobear555 Andrew Robinson specifically acted their scenes together as Garak being sexually interested in Bashir.

@RIDDICK0911

5 жыл бұрын

@@thegreenmanofnorwich the scene takes place way after Robinson was told to tone it down. Way after Garak had forced half-cardassian women for love interest. You can't use "actor played character gay" argument post Season 2.

Can they like kiss already? jesus...

@RoseETempest

Жыл бұрын

I know, right? Also, I don't know where you're from, but if you've recently driven in Georgia/Florida, then you would have phrased your comment "Can they like kiss already? ...Jesus" Just putting that there for anyone who might get it.

@richa16x

Жыл бұрын

@@RoseETempest hahaha I'm from the Netherlands :P

@RoseETempest

Жыл бұрын

@@richa16x then just take a moment to feel my jealousy. It's stronger than Garashir subtext.

@richa16x

Жыл бұрын

@@RoseETempest wait what I don't get it? :o

@RoseETempest

Жыл бұрын

@@richa16x There's a stretch of road in the US South where someone is paid to have tacky religious billboards put up. They're meant to be messages from "Jesus." But they're written, for example, like: "I'm still in control ...Jesus" instead of: "I'm still in control -Jesus." A dash would mean "from" or "by" or something. But they use an ellipses, which means the billboards read like your original comment with "Jesus" just tacked on at the end.

dang it! I read a lot fanfic about Garak/Bashir lately and now I'm sad, that nothing more than friendship ever happend between them in the actual series. * sigh *

@wanderkind0

4 жыл бұрын

If it makes you feel any better, Andrew Robinson has straight-up said that he played Garak as attracted to Bashir from the get-go.

@richa16x

Жыл бұрын

@@wanderkind0 Thats an understatement. upon seeing him for the first time during the scene. His first thought was: Hes te most beautiful man I have ever seen His second thought was: I want to fuck that guy

This is changeling Bashir right???

@RoseETempest

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Changeling Bashir did his best to get along with everyone. And that happened before the secret was out. This is just Julian.

All that banter. Just kiss him already! >:/

@AdamC169

Жыл бұрын

A klingon kiss is a fist to the jaw. im concerned a cardassian one is a knife in the back. Not hitting anything vital, but close enough to tickle them.

When this first aired I was obsessed with this scene to no extent as the idea of Bashir being able to calculate the chances of survival being at such a low level was amazing to me. So about 6 months after it I sat down with a calculator and a pencil and paper and worked out the exact formula that would work to hit a 32.7% chance of survival using only the information known in this episode. It was actually something like 32.7335325% of a chance but rounding down to that was fair.

@narutoluvr9977

Жыл бұрын

i say this with utmost respect and as an autistic person myself: have you ever been evaluated for autism

@Dave-sk9mn

Жыл бұрын

@@narutoluvr9977 no, I know it sounds like it but I have had about 3 of these moments in my life where I fixated on 1 small minor detail in a book/movie/TV show where I needed to work it out. It's not so much autism but a small grain of sand in your shoe that is just annoying you when you think of it. Either that's extremely mild autism or the more likely possibility it was just a person wondering if it's possible to do that, then working it out

@chillinchum

Жыл бұрын

So the writers didn't make it up? It actually follows the show's own shown info and logic? That's awesome.

@Youtubehandlesaresilly

Жыл бұрын

@@chillinchumhe’s just pulling your chain.

@chillinchum

Жыл бұрын

@@KZreadhandlesaresilly Well, even if he was, I thought it through quickly and thought, though there would be assumptions involved, we can take real world physics plus examples of rules laid down by the show plus some reasonable assumptions to get something, surely? I don't have time, but now I want to rewatch the whole show, and then see what I could work out, myself. That's why it sounded so reasonable, I could do it myself, so why not someone else? XP played myself, perhaps.