Hi Harry, We were asked to test a " Club " lock for a Motoring Organization, that were going to offer them to their members years ago. The " cross the steering wheel lock " had the same lock as shown in your video, although from memory it had more pins. We used a pipe key blank and removed the bit on the end. By filing grooves across the key blank with a round file, in a random fashion, and using it as a rake, it opened all we tested. Unusual key and lock, but as you said, tolerances were not up to scratch. Regards, Brian.

"This is the Lock picking Lawyer, and what i have for today is a ancient Greek spiritual based locking stone. This is one of the most complicated I've seen so far, so say it with me" ' I'm the lock picking lawyer ' *clicks* "Left rune is binding" "here we go"

@yuminago

5 жыл бұрын

SO UNDERRATED

@undertakernumberone1

2 жыл бұрын

ok, i know 3 years late and nitpicky, but... Greeks didn't have runes. Those are Germanic/Nordic.

@jaicabryizky6987

2 жыл бұрын

@@undertakernumberone1 Just go with it man haha it was a pretty good joke

@mathieulacasse4863

2 жыл бұрын

I'd prefer have Kratos sitting inside the car as a deterrent

123456?!?!? that's the same as my luggage combonation!!! that is a pretty interesting circular dimple core though, albeit poorly executed, but a neat technology to be sure!!!

@deranathonarkantos6712

5 жыл бұрын

Please tell me you were joking!

@chompythebeast

2 жыл бұрын

lmao damn, beaten by three years. But I guess I'm glad it didn't take that long, because I immediately thought the same thing lol

Nice picking. It's like a cross lock with an even more open keyway. Once I saw the notch on the key, I figured that would be where you tension. I really like the key number. 😂 Probably works as the password on the company servers also.

@pete_lind

5 жыл бұрын

Seen same lock where the lock core is on side inside the tubular part . Also wonder if that lock would take a Abloy core , they have some pop up locks too .

True, at first glance I would be deterred due to the strange keyway. But now that I see how it works, I’d give it a go. Thanks for sharing this

@tremwreck

6 жыл бұрын

Albert Lebel Loved your challenge lock

@AlbertLebel

6 жыл бұрын

Driv3r Murray Well thank you so much, do tell, which one are you referring to?

@tremwreck

6 жыл бұрын

I think it was titled "Savage". Not overly crazy, very tidy pins, much better than I can do with my dremel. Does it take Bill long to get around to featuring your locks?

Kuddos to TriMax for attempting to reinvent the wheel... but they should have had YOU as a consultant on the locking mechanism

What an interesting lock from Trimax. Great picking as usual and thanks for the review brother

Really enjoyed that showing.

My boss has nearly half a dozen of these as knob lock sets. But I don't think there's any notch to tension and I think the keys are longer with more dimples. I'll try to get some pictures.

2:00 - That's amazing, I've got the same combination on my luggage!

I think they have the option of making 1 more cut depth where the key would be drilled through in that area completely. Thus the key should be able to handle a few through holes and this plus some serrated pins would increase the time of professionals in picking the lock.

I picked the steering wheel version of this lock in a video. It has the same core and I just raked it quickly. I also used a different method to tension.

Steel is good, brass is okay, cylinder looks intimidating. Not too bad for the price considering most would try something else or try a physical attack. Nice vid as usual.👍🏽🍺😎

Nice video. Thanks LPL!

I'd love to see an alternative attack on it like try at impressioning it or even making your own key. it seems like you might even be able to ignore the 0 cuts and just make a blank with all 5 cuts and put something in the divits to fill them back up to a 0 cut if not used. Also I sent you a message about some flaws I found on the Abus Bordo combination locks that allow them to be opened by findinging 4 false gates then looking for the real gates one by one. I'm sure you can figure it out if you try it a bit.

_A123456?_ That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!

I wonder if a couple holes in the side of a bic pen, spun around inside while tensioning the lock, would open it up.

The moment my Dad bought this lock I knew I'd find this video on your channel 😂

@NahtShure

3 жыл бұрын

Was his key also A123456?

@ryanzoom2110

3 жыл бұрын

@@NahtShure no actually, tho that would've been interesting 😂

You are good, man!

Thanks for showing the thieves

A nice stick pen will also open just needs to be a round tube.

It looks like the lock that was in my old "Prolock" steering wheel lock when i got my first can.

As the idea looks sound I wonder if it's possible to change the core for something more secure.

I got this wheel lock on my car for parking somewhere closer to the faculty building because was moving stuff for a club event. Was gonna try to pick it since I'm somewhat of an amateur lock picker. I help people in my apartment open their room doors if they accidentally lock themselves in, which happens a lot tbh. But when I saw it was kinda loose already I just try to pull it off and it came off with just a tiny bit of effort and I just drove away swore not to park there anymore🤣🤣

@jackl135

Жыл бұрын

I guess nothing would really stock a professional lock picker.. it’s just whether the vehicle is worth their time and risk…

Incredible

You're an amazing lock picker

Who on Earth dislikes these videos? I understand disliking the locks - often there is very little to like about them - but the videos? Bah, humbug!

@nick15677

6 жыл бұрын

dlevi67 The guy who designed the lock I think would be strong candidate to dislike the video.

@dlevi67

6 жыл бұрын

Fair point...

@RadTac

6 жыл бұрын

I never understood disliking a video in general, there's only been a few that I truly disliked enough to hit the button. I mean, they took the time to make and edit a FREE video for the public to watch, and they're going to complain about it?

@Bialy_1

6 жыл бұрын

"The guy who designed the lock" yea i am preaty sure that he just ripped off Gerda TYTAN ZX design and its clear that he made a very crapy job...

@VENOMps3

6 жыл бұрын

like or dislike can be used as an feedback indicator like the comments

Looks as if a simple drill could be used on that effectively.

This feels more like lockout/tagout than anti-theft to me.

@bloodmoongrizzlythefirst6492

5 жыл бұрын

one way to keep someone from pulling the chock out while you are working on something at least and a slight theft deterrent would keep tweekers from at least trying to boost it since they can't use bolt cutters on it and cutting it would take to long and to loud *if you have neighbors*

What happens inside the core during picking is still a big mystery to some (me??!). A cam view inside the core would be awesome.

@g2g591

6 жыл бұрын

RizingSunRacing search for "the mit guide to lockpicking" has lots of diagrams so you can picture whats happening

I never saw one like that before!

@madjack821

6 жыл бұрын

THR33STEP that’s what she said......but yes, very interesting lock

Given the fact that the core is brass and the size of the hole in the part of the brace behind it, I wonder if a strike on the brace from the side with a hammer would break the rear pin of the lock. Of course, that depends on how much of the brace is left protruding when it's affixed to a wheel. If it's fully closed then a strike on it would do no good but, if it's extended by at least one notch, a strike might just work in breaking it.

@dlevi67

6 жыл бұрын

If I understand rightly what you are saying, I doubt it: 1. The amount of extension of the locking arm has nothing to do with the resistance of the pin slotting into the hole. 2. The two "arms" of the lock would have to be placed quite tightly against the wheel/tyre to clamp it and prevent removal, so I don't think you'd have much room for a hammer blow, though perhaps if one could fix a slide hammer attachment very near the lock it could word (but back to point 1: if the pin is e.g. stainless steel with a good diameter and length, good luck with that approach)

@russellhltn1396

6 жыл бұрын

From the photos, it may not be locked against the wheel that tightly to where it can't be compressed. Even if it was, it is likely to be pressing on the tire rather than the metal wheel. I think a couple of small sledge hammers swung to hit both side simultaneously could fracture the pin. If that didn't work, I'd look at a screw spreader.

@dlevi67

6 жыл бұрын

OK - I misunderstood what +Gary Rumain was saying. I was thinking of "spreading" rather than "compressing", in which case the comment above makes a lot more sense. Thanks +Russell Hltn

@gary_rumain_you_peons

6 жыл бұрын

I was actually thinking of striking it from one of the sides at the corner. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. The sheer force should be enough to break the pin in the pin hole size the holes are quite small compared to the rest of the clamp. Since the lock is brass, I'm guessing that the pin used is also brass. The clamp would need to be extended by at least one pin hole for that to work. If it's fully inserted then it's not going to. I also just realised that you'd also need to brace it on the opposite side or any strike isn't going to do much.

@gary_rumain_you_peons

6 жыл бұрын

I think you could only hit the outside of the clamp when it's attached to a wheel. The other side would still need to be braced (perhaps against the car body). The clamp would still need to be extended by at least one notch to allow any hammer strike to sheer the pin behind the lock. Of course, until someone actually tries it, this is only theoretical.

1 of these on each wheel should do the trick combined with locks on the coupler and everywhere else for my trailer

Cool lock for sure id like the see the part that goes into the holes. Possible weak point maybe?

I like this lock. Security by obscurity.

I just watched Bill work this lock, almost EXACTLY the same way, except he used dimple flag!

Niceeee

I have two of these units. One key has a 'B' followed by a 5 digit number and the other has a 'C' followed by a 6 digit number. Both numbers start with '134' but are pretty random after that.

Nice

cool. Informative.

you could stick a bent piece of metal in an exposed hole if the tire was so wise that the hole could be accessed and depress the detent locking it in place.

$55 and that's a little more than $1 per second to open it. Maybe they sent you an easy one, guessing from that key number? One can only hope. Thanks LPL.

How would you put tension on the lock if it wasn't for the notch? Why couldn't they put a notch on the front of the key that hooks onto something inside the lock and not on the surface of it?

Its greatest strength is its unusual key way. Is it hardened?

He's good I thought he was going to have more trouble than that

Looks to be all steel, stamped and welded. It’s s good way to make things. I’ve no idea why zinc gets used so much unless it’s just incredibly cheap.

@dlevi67

6 жыл бұрын

It is much easier to fabricate: typical zinc alloys melt around 400 °C, against the ~1400 °C of steel, and unlike steel it pours and casts easily so the moulds/dies used in manufacturing last longer. It's also corrosion-resistant and much softer. Although the raw material is more expensive, for a relatively complex but small shape produced in industrial volumes zinc will almost certainly be cheaper than fabricated steel.

@gary_rumain_you_peons

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think it was cast. From the look of it, it's standard tubular steel beams and rolled steel beams that have been formed into the required shape. Much simpler.

neat!

'bottom is binding' Hell yeah I am lock daddy 🤣

@idiotgame1026

2 жыл бұрын

690

Crazy

When I read the title, I read this: Wild Key 8-Pin TriMax Wheel Lock ̶P̶i̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ Appeared

fyi, I just bought one of these, and indeed, each fo the 8 dimples seems to be one of two depths, but the key number is NOT A12345, its A125xx

In my experience, not many things are stronger than a 12v drill and a Milwaukee stepped bit. And not many things can do it so quick and dirty, especially if you don't care about the bit (You lose a surprising amount of keys running jobsites)

I have a bundle of broken bristles from the street sweepers that frequent the city in the spring and summer. They're all some kind of spring steel, about 1/8" x 1/4" and anywhere from 4" to 6" long. They're also fairly rusted but still quite solid. I've seen coworkers convert these into fairly nice-looking lockpicks but would spring steel work for a tension bar?

@bitshtannicajohnson6957

2 ай бұрын

*All so very great for tensioning your p hole to get out calcium stones that build up*

Please do a Titan Grip wheel lock. The one with the tubular lock.

What would be your recommendation for the best trailer lock? I’ve been going through a few dozen and I’m finally looking at something like the Blaylock coupler shackle with a good padlock.

@jandry6598

2 жыл бұрын

Problem with a coupler lock alone is that they can just use the safety chains to wrap around their hitch, roll away, and deal with the coupler (or more likely strip the inside) with all the time in the world. I use both wheel locks and couplers. I plan to replace the wheel locks with a good chain and padlock.

That was interesting, would of love to see the core,but ì know you have to return it.I do watch all of your videos, ì don't always leave a comment. I thought at first you only picked easy locks, (that was a long time ago) You brother have great skills. Would love to see more gun lock stuff. And would like to ASK you if you make challenge locks? Or if you send locks to your followers? I really would like to get some pad locks to pick, then re-pin them and see you pick them. If this could be done, please drop me a text. Thanks Mr.L.P.L.

Hello looking for wheel blocks for my car, I find your chanel very interesting and really very impressed by your demonstrations and test of these tools. If you allow me, I would like to solicit your experience on this subject. Can you please recommend me some "wheel block" products that you judge of better quality and safety? Thank you in advance and good day.

How would you make it more difficult to tension the core? Looks like a pretty well put together lock but it looks like they got lazy when they thought of tensioning

@josuelservin2409

6 жыл бұрын

josh ohman, A long key with tension in the bottom, extra points for a restrictive keyway.

Do these videos remind anyone of being at the dentist?

@markc6714

4 жыл бұрын

Yep every single video.

@superninja4687

3 жыл бұрын

Yes so much so

@KrakeLakn

3 жыл бұрын

Not until I read your comment

@willowmoon7

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely not, I hate the dentist >_

Couldn't you try to pick it with a bic pen tube?

Lot of effort on the whole body less so on the lock itself

I wonder how difficult a boot would be to pick from nyc

@gary_rumain_you_peons

6 жыл бұрын

Depends on the type of lock used. But you can also have locking nuts on the wheels. I used to see those around sometimes when fancy wheels were being stolen.

@pete_lind

6 жыл бұрын

Does not tyre locks that cities use have padlocks ? You put it in place and adjust with a cam to clamp the rim and then lock it with a padlock ... by that you can have several keys and no master key and also you can change the locks if staff is fired .

@ElTurbinado

6 жыл бұрын

Pete Lind the ones in nyc have electronic keypads; you call a phone number, pay your bills, they give you the code, you unlock it and bring it to a boot return location.

@UHOH3300

5 жыл бұрын

cordless angle grinder :)

Interesting lock. Have you tried to remove the core to gut it?

I don't understand why those cylinder locks have that notch on the front... It doesn't make sense to me

I really wish there were a lock that takes more then a minute for LPL to pick... the videos are way too short.

Laying the smack down 😅

Can it be Bumped or Raked?

(Nice.)

We do people always try to open something locked when you can just cut it off?

Mmmmm.... information!

Would this lock also be vulnerable to a shimming exploit?

Thank you for these tutorials, but I'm wondering what the solution is, which locks work? It's great that you show us what doesn't work, but I don't see the solution or options that do work

What would you consider are the most secure cores?

In your opinion what’s the most effective way to protect a trailer from tow away theft?

@bitshtannicajohnson6957

2 ай бұрын

*Remove the wheels, take the lug nuts with you, and washout any remaining hub bearing grease*

Can that be shimmed? It looks like it could

Would this help with people stealing your car ?

Looks like a Gerda lock design, I bet it will be hard to pi... oh, ok, never mind.

@Bialy_1

6 жыл бұрын

Gerda Tytan design is using 16 pins also quality here is nothing like in the original.

Asking for a friend. What happens if you send a 9mm fmj into the locker?

He said very pricey lol

"Tackle & grapple" then "Chock it & lock it".

This type of lock does not cover the hub, because that would complicate installation, and not fit a varied range of wheel sizes. It is always ESSENTIAL to buy a better quality lock, like the RACK'EM with an Abloy or Medeco cylinder, and use McGard locking lugnuts on all wheels and spare. I am surprised you did not look at OTHER exploit opportunities on this TriMax badged product.

Could you hit it with the ram set?

what if someone lifts the car?

CONNARD

I can confirm that your key "A123456" is a fluke. I checked mine and my key number starts with a "B" and is followed by 5 seemingly random numbers. I can also confirm that my key only has two cut levels like yours... very shallow and very deep.

3:05 B E C O M E U N G O V E R N A B L E

I wonder how long it would take to pick the locks on two of these while kneeing on gravel under a trailer - then pick the hitch lock - then pick or drill out the coupler vault - then figure out how to lift the trailer up to hitch to a tow vehicle when the jack has no power and the chains have been removed??? Great video to shown nothing is absolute, however, in the real world it's not as simple as on your desk - just saying.

time for a destructive video next time? ;P

@nommchompsky

6 жыл бұрын

Totally. I bet you could slide hammer the core out of that thing in no time

Am I missing something? How is this lock going to secure a verhicle? It seems to be just loosely clamped to the rim. So wont any verhicle worth it salt just roll over that stopping block and drag the whole thing along like a weird wheel-ornament?

Sigh... I can't let myself get a pick, I'd go around stealing locks. 🔐

@_BangDroid_

6 жыл бұрын

Not if you follow locksport guidelines lol

@MorellioBenoir

6 жыл бұрын

Lol

@nomadbynature8811

6 жыл бұрын

BangDroid where would us new guys find those guidelines?

@MorellioBenoir

6 жыл бұрын

Basically don't commit crimes. Pretty straight forward. :)

@_BangDroid_

6 жыл бұрын

It comes down to 3 rules really; Never pick a lock you don’t own without the owner’s permission Never pick a lock in use Follow regional laws regarding lockpicking applicable to your country/state/municipality toool.us/bylaws.html (Rules of Ethics) While applicable to members of TOOOL, anyone who wants locksport to remain a legal hobby should follow.

So... Do I give your video a thumbs up for your picking prowess, or a thumbs down for the locks pathetic weakness? Guess I'll just give you your deserved thumbs up as usual to be safe :)

I'd say a cordless sawzall would do the trick.

690

nothing like parking enforcement n private property

@russellhltn1396

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think this is parking enforcement. This is about keeping your trailer from being stolen.

@bird718

6 жыл бұрын

Russell Hltn that's what i said, parking enforcement on private property, best to lock both wheels and lock the trailer down to something

You should put a timer up for entertainment purposes

I hear the words ‘beefy’ and ‘interesting’ and there are less than 3 minutes left. Poor lock.

What is your view on teaching criminals and letting them know how to break into stuff???

69 butiful

If you try and use it as a boot...

Is there any lock this man can’t pick?

@beardyface8492

5 жыл бұрын

Sure.. absolutely any combination lock.. he has to "manipulate" those rather than "picking" them... OK Maybe that's a distinction without a difference, but your question begged such an answer. Besides there are a couple or three.. and if you find his interview he says there are "many"

@ozanustcoban9609

4 жыл бұрын

Search Naugth bucket in video list.