6502 CPU vs Bulgarian clone

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A comparison between a 6502 CPU and its Bulgarian clone CM630P.
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  • @nw4538
    @nw45384 жыл бұрын

    Someone with content this quality SHOULD have more than 861 subscribers.

  • @TechJump

    @TechJump

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have over 1000 now :)

  • @nw4538

    @nw4538

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice 👍

  • @lucysluckyday
    @lucysluckyday3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that close in zoom and pan brought back the MEMORIES! I remember stroking my fingers around those curves back in the day. I can feel it now after seeing that! Oh the "RESTORE" key .. I had forgotten about that one!

  • @stomah9832
    @stomah98324 жыл бұрын

    is someone else from bg watching this?

  • @zeoxbg

    @zeoxbg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I am :)

  • @arewezero6822

    @arewezero6822

    4 жыл бұрын

    az sum

  • @suncho6502

    @suncho6502

    3 жыл бұрын

    Иван МарънгузОв

  • @a2heaven19

    @a2heaven19

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @AtanasStoyanov

    @AtanasStoyanov

    3 жыл бұрын

    Да, но ... защо пишеш на Англииски?

  • @naderhumood1199
    @naderhumood11992 ай бұрын

    Lovely subject Thank you v much Sir

  • @perseverance8
    @perseverance83 жыл бұрын

    I own dozens of New - Old Stock CM630P ICs, with a number of them being used in a number of projects.

  • @pickoftheglitter
    @pickoftheglitter Жыл бұрын

    yep. I bought a bunch of 10or more some years ago, since they were quite cheaper than the 6502 at that time. I used them in some VIC-20, at least one 1541, and some PET (2001/N, 2032, 8032 etc.). They work absolutely fine, I've never had any problem. Not sure if in some extreme circumstances they can go wrong, but until now I'm totally satisfied, and I'm saving the original MOS 6502 for future needs.

  • @StephenThorley
    @StephenThorley3 жыл бұрын

    This was fascinating, I would like to know more about eastern block computer science history.

  • @naderhumood1199
    @naderhumood11998 ай бұрын

    Ya great video…thanks for posting

  • @JaquelineVanek
    @JaquelineVanek3 жыл бұрын

    heh, Ivan Marangozov, there used to be a joke that ИМКО-2 is a capitalisation from the bulgarian for "Ivan Marangozov Copies the Original ...second try", "Иван Марангозов Копира Оригинала... вори път". IMKO-2 machines were renamed to and more popular under the name of Pravetz 82, clones of Aplle II as mentioned in the video

  • @TechJump

    @TechJump

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great info! Thank you!

  • @19n05k83
    @19n05k834 жыл бұрын

    What Russian Kazachok and Soviet anthem have to do with Bulgaria?

  • @bogomilalexandrov1787

    @bogomilalexandrov1787

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@leocat2662 Sounds like USA and Mexico are the same if we follow your logic, as both countries were democratic, are next to each other and do a lot of trade. 😁 The Russian song and photos from Russia are really out of context! Otherwise - great and interesting review. What Bulgarian machine did you use?

  • @haraldhimmel5687

    @haraldhimmel5687

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bogomilalexandrov1787 Bulgaria was behind the Iron Courtain, part of the Warshaw Pact and a close ally of the Soviet Union. Sounds close enough.

  • @bogomilalexandrov1787

    @bogomilalexandrov1787

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@haraldhimmel5687 Don't want to get political about it, but Bulgaria was occupied after WWII and it doesn't feel nice to be associated with your occupator 😁

  • @haraldhimmel5687

    @haraldhimmel5687

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bogomilalexandrov1787 Youre right about that ofc.

  • @flightforfunchannel
    @flightforfunchannel2 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t understand only one thing. What does Bulgaria have to do with the Soviet Union? :)

  • @intel386DX

    @intel386DX

    5 ай бұрын

    Warsaw pact .

  • @onecheekydevil7559
    @onecheekydevil75594 жыл бұрын

    From around 4:13, there seems to be artifacts around the large numbers on the clone screen that aren't there on the genuine screen. Are you able to re-run the demo on the clone system and confirm it's not just me that's seeing it? (could be video compression artifacts during upload)

  • @DrDavesDiversions
    @DrDavesDiversions3 жыл бұрын

    Nice job showing us this Soviet Apple II clone!

  • @TechJump

    @TechJump

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @a2heaven19

    @a2heaven19

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not Soviet , BULGARIAN clone !

  • @DrDavesDiversions

    @DrDavesDiversions

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@a2heaven19 I stand corrected! You'd think I'd know, having dated a Bulgarian for many years! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravetz_computers

  • @DreitTheDarkDragon
    @DreitTheDarkDragon3 жыл бұрын

    4:13 - random pixel is blinking on the left of numbers and also some above numbers. You can see it even earlier, but it's not that visible edit: noticed somebody already mentioned it and got answer, same time, scroll down

  • @ryanhaart
    @ryanhaart3 жыл бұрын

    The actual content of the video starts at 03:50

  • @gartmorn
    @gartmorn3 жыл бұрын

    What was the game with the submarines? It looks fun!

  • @joeyalfaro2323
    @joeyalfaro23233 жыл бұрын

    My jaw dropped 4:19 good information bravo

  • @zzmaj
    @zzmaj4 жыл бұрын

    Did you run something that uses opcodes? Like some test for emulators? This would be more interesting than this :)

  • @ThereIsOnly1ArcNinja

    @ThereIsOnly1ArcNinja

    3 жыл бұрын

    As the clone CPUs are 1:1 copies and not remakes, they include even all the mistakes that were made in the creation of the original. They include all the illegal OPs, have all the same timings and are thus more compatible than a 65C02.

  • @Rapsodiaast
    @Rapsodiaast3 жыл бұрын

    W..WAT??? vic20 have 6522 at second socket? not 6526? but what he have in the first socket? quality of picture is not so good =(

  • @akkudakkupl

    @akkudakkupl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vic20 has two 6522 😏

  • @genzzata
    @genzzata4 жыл бұрын

    As I was a kid back then when that clone was produced in Bulgaria it is really hard to find honest information about the technology and how they copied it but the fact is they did manufacture it somehow and it is unclear who were the people who did it. There are some engineers claiming this was their baby but we all know it can't be only a bunch of people involved, probably some samples were bought from the USA and brought illegally for examination thanks to the Intelligence back then.

  • @TechJump

    @TechJump

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would really like to know, if you can find more info please let me know. The probably pop the top of and copied it.

  • @statinskill

    @statinskill

    3 жыл бұрын

    They copied the masks. And they must have had help from the GDR to build the process. Never forget that these were second world socialist countries without the type of infrastructure found in the first world.

  • @salvadorlimones1811

    @salvadorlimones1811

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not entirely true. The early ИМКО machine used Taiwanese 6502 clones. Bulgaria was part of the Eastern Block, but it was it was doing business with Western European countries too. Not much with the US, though. AFAIK BRD (West Germany) was one of its main economic partners. Many institutions (and even some elite high schools) had original Apple computers and original IBM PCs. The majority of the computers produced were exported to the USSR. As someone else mentioned, Bulgaria used to make Apple II clones (many variations, some quite different from any Apple-made machines), an ORIC Atmos clone (Правец 8Д), IBM PC/XT/AT clones(Правец 16, ИЗОТ), original designs (Пълдин), Z80-based machines (ИЗОТ).

  • @SianaGearz

    @SianaGearz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TechJump Unfortunately decap is not really a suitable way to copy. It does resolve a lot of reverse engineering ambiguity though which is why preservation communities do this today, they can extract the structure and the mask ROMs, but essentially the whole thing needs to be re-engineered if all you have are dieshots.

  • @kargaroc386

    @kargaroc386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Presumably they could've also been brought in through Yugoslavia (which had access to western tech)

  • @paulblakmorg
    @paulblakmorg2 жыл бұрын

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  • @abidibrahim
    @abidibrahim4 жыл бұрын

    Where I can buy one?

  • @TechJump

    @TechJump

    4 жыл бұрын

    E-bay

  • @joeyalfaro2323
    @joeyalfaro23233 жыл бұрын

    My first intro to computers I remember saying this straight Garbage. Then I met my the love of my life nes Nintendo. To me a computer just tool like screw driver or hammer. I once throw brand new laptop in dumpster because there was no sound on KZread. My reason was it's going cost me to much time figure this out. Mother board to me looks like Google maps air view or tiny city.

  • @JCMayPE
    @JCMayPE2 жыл бұрын

    If it worked differently, it would not be much of a clone, now, would it? ;)

  • @jarisipilainen3875
    @jarisipilainen38754 жыл бұрын

    clone or whatever it just prosessor that have same op codes. yeah clone but could be diff. and 6502 nothing todo with graphics. even clone 6502 it would not look same if graphic card is diff. so this is computer clone. not 6502 specific

  • @zeoxbg

    @zeoxbg

    4 жыл бұрын

    In this case, it is only the cloned CPU. Pravetz never made clones of Commodore computers. Pravetz did however make clones of the Apple II, Oric Atmos and IBM PC XT

  • @atomiswave2
    @atomiswave23 жыл бұрын

    ReTro Computer Pron

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX Жыл бұрын

    1:20 hahah LOl 😂😆 Bulgaria is not USSR, but OK 😁😂 Bay the way USSR made 8088 clones and not one but several

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